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00:00Thank you very much.
00:30Thank you very much.
07:42has been really great in Pakistan.
08:13And you know what, we're gonna have victory very shortly.
08:16This is not, and against a very tough, smart country.
08:19These people were fighters.
08:21And, you know, I don't want to claim it before the fact,
08:24but they have no navy left.
08:26158 ships at the bottom of the sea.
08:29Another interesting thing is that, after the announcement,
08:32in a way, more quickly,
08:34they said that, in line with the ceasefire of Lebanon,
08:42the passage of all commercial vessels through Strait of Hormoz
08:45is declared completely open for the period of the ceasefire.
08:48And ceasefire is 22 April,
08:50meaning, 22 April, Lebanon's ceasefire,
08:52which is a very important leader in Pakistan,
08:55because of Strait of Hormoz,
08:57and after Donald Trump,
08:59the olive branch,
09:00they're already ready for the period of the day.
09:01So this is a sign of the truth.
09:03In this case,
09:03the state of Iran's presence is fully open.
09:06All these things are fully open.
09:09So this is a sign of the passage.
09:11So, this is a sign of the situation.
09:13The other hand,
09:16the opposition,
09:18to the opposition,
09:19which is representative of the European makers,
09:22what is the orderly possible?
09:26We have a great great role in Iran.
09:57He has been the interior minister.
10:28Thank you very much for joining me in the program.
10:31Thank you very much.
13:39Thank you very much.
14:05Thank you very much.
17:22So Pakistan can see that Pakistan can see as much as a state, as a nation as a state, as
17:32a nation, our profile has been elevated.
17:37So Pakistan can see that Pakistan can see as much as a state, as a state, as a nation, our
17:59profile has been elevated.
18:01But if they have a little heart and have a common sense of love and the peace of Pakistan,
18:13I think that this is a pride and respect and honor for everyone.
18:20I'm presuming that you are talking about specific people's people,
18:24because the PGI and the Central Information Secretary of State,
18:28I'm presuming that you are talking about this.
18:30But having said that, because of that,
18:32if it's a case of the PGI and the PGI,
18:45it's a case of the PGI and the PGI.
18:54is there a possibility or a rule out?
18:58.
18:59.
19:00.
19:00.
19:00.
19:02.
19:02.
19:02.
19:02rules yeah, uh,
19:05قوانین
19:06ہیں. Hmm.
19:07Us
19:07me government
19:09ki ya jail authorities
19:10ki ye competence
19:11nahhi hai
19:12ke wo kishi ko jail
19:13shift karen ya
19:14hospital shift karen ya
19:16na karen.
19:17Ye doctor ki
19:18swab dheed
19:18hai. Agar
19:19aap kishi
19:20ah,
19:21qeidi ko
19:21ya kishi
19:23under trial
19:24prisoner ko
19:25lathe hai
19:25hospital mein
19:26or agar doctor
19:27kahta hai
19:28ke ji
19:28chik hai
19:29is ki treatment
19:29ho gai
19:30he is no
19:30more
19:31require to
19:32to be admitted
19:34in hospital
19:34to us ko
19:35waapis jayl
19:37bheji dya jata
19:38hai, jayl
19:38mein bhi hospital
19:39hoota hai,
19:39wohaan peh
19:40division ho sakta hai,
19:41wohaan peh
19:42rukha jasakta hai,
19:43to ye to
19:44doctors ki
19:45joh team
19:46hai, joh
19:47imran khans
19:48sahab ko bhi
19:49dhek rhei hai,
19:49unka ilaj
19:50kar rhei hai,
19:51or yakinin
19:52joh buchera
19:53bibi ko laaya
19:53gya hai,
19:54suna hai,
19:55kye shayad
19:55unko bhi
19:56koji
19:57aankho ka
19:58hi problem
19:59tha,
19:59to ye
20:00to wo doctor
20:01decide
20:01kye
20:02kye
20:02unko hospitalization
20:03ki
20:03ضرورت
20:04hai,
20:04ya
20:04nai
20:04hai,
20:05bhaqi
20:06is
20:06me
20:07jab
20:08unho
20:08ne
20:08bhaqi
20:09sahulte
20:09حاصل
20:09karne
20:10kye
20:10joh
20:11ritski
20:12islam
20:12bard
20:13hai
20:13court
20:13mein
20:13اور اس کے نتیجے میں انہیں وہ تمام سہولتیں ملیں
20:16جو کہ ان کو دستیاب ہیں اس وقت بھی
20:20تو وہ کیوں نہیں اگر وہ سمجھتے ہیں
20:23کہ ان کا ہاسپٹل میں رہنا ضروری ہے
20:27یا ان کا گھرپے نظر بن ہونا
20:30ان کے علاج کے لیے وہ موابن ہوگا
20:34تو وہ اس پٹیشن کے ساتھ
20:35اس ریکویسٹ کے ساتھ
20:38وہ کیوں نہیں عدارت میں جاتے
20:39and then the government will take the decision and then the decision will go.
20:47So, they need to use a legal method.
20:53Okay, let's see.
20:54This is an interesting development.
20:56I would like to know your opinion about that.
20:59I would like to know your opinion about that.
21:00In Jerusalem Post, I have a article about what happened to Imran Khan.
21:10What is your opinion about that?
21:12What is your point of view as a government minister and as a politician?
21:17I don't have any knowledge about it.
21:25I have heard that I have talked about it.
21:34Thank you very much.
21:35I have heard that I have a question.
21:40I have a question about the government.
21:40I have a question.
21:42I have a question.
21:42There is no power with the government or with the prime minister
21:46that they have a order pass.
21:47They have a question.
21:49foreign
22:19foreign
22:49foreign
23:19not a question. It is not a question. It is not a question. It is a question. It is not
23:26a question.
23:27It is a question. Right. And the idea of which people have done
23:30the whole world and the whole community of which people have signed to be
23:38So that's what we have to do.
24:08whooshy ko, and training camps ko,
24:11johai woe onko khutam karee.
24:13And us se aaghe
24:15phir aagla joh fäicla
24:16joh abhi hua hai, jis ke oopar
24:18pichlhe tkriban dho maa se
24:21johai woe amal ho raha hai,
24:23woe ye hai ke ager ab khutam
24:25naihi kareengi, to phir un
24:26thakhano ko tabae
24:28karna, unko
24:30johai woe neutralize karna
24:32Pakistan ka haq hai.
24:35Kiyonkhe وہa se
24:36Pakistan ke khlaaf johai wo
24:38dashed gardi ke waakiyat
24:40hote hai, to woe
24:42haq ki johai woe istamal kar rhe hai
24:44wohaan peh jab jis
24:47jis jis jaga peh, wohaan peh
24:48is kisim ki surahti hal
24:50paai jayegi, to unke khlaaf
24:52intelligence based operation johai woe
24:54kie jayengi. اور یہ صرف
24:56is hud tak hi hoonge,
24:58que wohaan peh johai woe training ho raha hi ha
25:00er wohaan peh dashed gardi ko
25:01johai woe tiyar kie jahe raha
25:05chin ke kirdar se joh salishi
25:08ho rhehi tih, abhi joh recent
25:09backdoor diplomacy thi, wo kya
25:11usko hum bolei ke it has
25:14stalled, ya wo work
25:16in progress ki tawar per dekha jahe
25:31got it rana sahab, thank you for joining me in the program
25:34we will see you after the break
25:43welcome back after the break
25:45paakistan ki joh salishi ka kirdar hai, us ke inder
26:15brent, brent, wti, both unki
26:17ki kiemet ho ke anndar bhi khater khuah
26:19kamhi aarehi, ya brent crude, ah abna
26:21eh hormos khulte hi, 10 fieced
26:23kam ho gaya, or is time
26:24per 88 dollar fee
26:27barrel ki sata ke opper
26:28maujud hai, or joe wti ai hai, yani
26:30amerikki kham tiel, western texas
26:33jis ko ka jata hai, wo 11 percent
26:35kam hoa hai, or is time
26:36per 83 dollar fee barrel ki
26:38sata par maujud hai, toh ye difference
26:40hai, international sata ke opper
26:43ye impact hai, joh ke
26:45paakistan create kar raha hai
26:47is time per, paakistan ki salishi ke
26:48kirdar ko, or ane vale dhano ke anndar
26:50kya hone vale, us ko zara discuss
26:51kertai, humar saath ambassador azaz
26:53ya machaudhri sahab, mوجud hai, sabik
26:54safir hai, amerikai me raha chukye hai, sabik
26:56security kharja bhi raha chukye hai, paakistan ke
26:58thank you very much ambassador, for joining me in the program
27:00pleasure having you, ambassador
27:03paakistan is expecting
27:04ke donald trump ayenge, donald trump
27:06na khud bhi confirm kar diya, ke agar
27:08sign hoota hai, toh mein bhi aunga, pher
27:10paakistan ki ane ki baat bhi chal raha thi
27:13kya aap ye tawakkuk kar raha hai
27:14ke ane vale hafton ke anndar, ya chand
27:16deno ke anndar ye maamla resolve ho jayega
27:18and we have successfully averted
27:20world war three
27:23ji ji, mein bilkul tawakkuk kar raha
27:24ho, belkye, ág se nahi
27:26bhoat dher se ye kar raha tha tawakkuk
27:28kukye, mujhe lag raha tha
27:31ke, bahujoo
27:32dono, amerika
27:33or iran
27:35koji na koji mahi da karna chahate
27:37hai, lekin, unko koji
27:38eek reliable, credible, salis
27:42chahiye tha, kiunki unhoonne
27:43aaj tak face to fake
27:44na baathe thay na baat chit ki thi
27:47pureh 47 saal se
27:48yeh dhushmini thi
27:49to yeh paakistan ko, iska credit jatatahe, paakistan ki kyaadat ko, iska credit jatatahe, que unhoonne bade pro-active anndaz
27:59me, koji raddhe amal ke torpere nai, pro-active, aaghe bharhkar, khud, yae sari sifaritkari ki,
28:33ah, or na sirf amerika
28:35or uske baad straight of homos ka khulne ki announcement
29:06donos time per hoti hai, just time per CDF
29:14paakistan yeh salsi ka kirdar na da karta
29:22and dono ko etni thodhe vokt
29:24me kariib leker a gaya hai
29:26iski sabse bade ni misal
29:28to yeh hai, que 11 aprile ko
29:30ah, joh khabar aayi
29:31que kai baar
29:32ah, yeh dhor, ah, mzaakirat ki
29:35tootnay jah rahi thi
29:36ah, or paakistan
29:37ne hər moky par košish karke
29:39bahadhal, eek achha
29:41agreement ke nazdik pehuncha diya tha
29:43ah, to, isi wajahe se
29:45aap dhekheni hai, que musselsel
29:47ah, donald trump saab bhi
29:49ratpul lisan hai, paakistan ke liye
29:50ah, or iran ki ki qiadat bhi
29:53bhoat izzet kar raha hai
29:54ah, or aap jhe dhrust
29:55firmar rhae hi hai, que jab
29:56ah, emari fiel marrchal sahab
29:58jab iran jathe hai
29:59ero uske duran wunan nhe
30:01concession dhi, que hem
30:02arbenai hurmus khol raha hai
30:04to yeh, eh, baqaida
30:06aishara hai, que paakistan
30:07isme ee kirdarada ka kira raha
30:08isi tarah, ah, eek iran ko joh
30:11concession chahiye dhi, que paak
30:12ham hezbollah ka chhold nhi
30:13saktay, to, aap israeil
30:15se wo jang rukwaini, kiunque
30:16wo eek, ah, jang joh hai, moahed
30:18ee ko kharaab kar sakti hai, to, eek
30:20ah, eek lihaas se amerika nne bhi
30:22wo concession dhi hai, ah, to
30:24iske piechhe zahir bata
30:25ke paakistan ki, emare
30:27wazir-i-azam ki, emare
30:29wazir-i-kharja ki bhi, ah, emare
30:31chief of army staff, jura
30:33ah, jura, ah, ah, jura
30:35asim vunir sahab ki, in sab ki
30:36kawish, kawish hai, or isme
30:38koi shak hi nahi hai kishi
30:39ko, or isi liye, uske liye
30:41bar bar, dousi jenghau se
30:42izhaar bhi ho raha hai, per
30:43mujhe zyadha khushi is baat ki hai,
30:45que is sarhe duran mein, paakistan
30:47ne yeh nhi kia, que sara
30:48kredit khud lye, belkhe
30:50unho ki sahudi arab ko bhi
30:51on board rakhha hai, qatar ko bhi,
30:53turkie ko bhi, chin ko bhi, ah,
30:55to goya, mein samajta ho ho
30:57ke eek comprehensive settlement
30:58ke liye ek achi fiza
31:00sasgaar ban ghi, uspe jeqeena
31:02paakistan ka eek bhoht
31:03aham kirdar raha hai, right,
31:05ach ha, embeza, chalye, ye, ye
31:07to ek taraf ho gya, lekin
31:08isse sari tenazor ke ander
31:08ek khabar dhbti jara rhi ha,
31:10paakistan ne yu-n ke ander
31:11ek bada strong stance liye,
31:12er wo ye stance liye, que
31:13veto power ko support nhi
31:15kertai haam, aur mazheed
31:17mumalik ko veto power dhena
31:18to aur bhi ghalat hai, iske
31:20ander kashmir ke hawaalese
31:20bhoht saari chizong ke uper
31:21veto hotara, ah, palestinian
31:23right ke hawaalese se, two state
31:25ah, ke hawaalese se, two state
31:26jo solution hai, uske hawaalese
31:28genocide ko rokne ke hawaalese
31:30there were so many
31:31resolutions UN ke ander
31:32jo veto hoti rhi, aksar
31:33US ki taraf se veto hoti rhi
31:35ah, aapko lagta hai, ki
31:37ye stance bhi, ahane walhe
31:38dhinoh ke ander, paakistan ka
31:40pukde ga koji traction
31:42in the international community?
31:44This reform is UN Security Council
31:47ki, this year 1995
31:50ya se si lah chal raha
31:52ya ni 31 sile ho gczę
31:53e isko, ah, or ginke
31:56pass veto power haya wo, chhodna
31:58ni chahate hain, ah, or
32:004 aise memalik hayaan, jinn
32:02honne, G4 bina ya hoa hai, us
32:04mein bharat bhi shamil hai, germany
32:05hai, Japan hai, Brazil hai, wo
32:07veto apne liye bhi lena chahate
32:09hai, permanent bhi benna chahate
32:10in the name of the country.
32:24Because we don't have any country who have been in the country.
32:25So that we have been a part of this country.
32:27It's because the country has been a part of the country.
32:30So we've been talking about the country,
32:31and we've been talking about it,
32:32and that's why we've got good enough.
32:35So we can't wait for the country.
32:39We've got to stay there.
32:39We have a great deal.
32:40That's why we have been saying it is not the country.
32:40It's a group of middle parts, so it's a group of middle parts.
32:43So, it's a group of people who have a lot of veto-bearing people.
32:48G-4, and they have a lot of un-democratic people.
32:54This is my stance.
32:56I don't think that it's a relationship here.
33:00This is a relationship between the government and the government.
33:04This is a relationship between the government and the government.
33:09This is a relationship between foreign lines.
33:15This has been a relationship between the government and the government.
33:21This is a relationship between other countries and Saudi Arabia.
33:30This has been a relationship between the European world.
33:32This is a relationship between Iran and the US to be endslaim.
33:39So, this triangle has a new security architecture which needs to be respected in this country.
33:47This is Pakistan and Turkey.
33:51There are some guarantees in China and US.
33:55So, I think that the United Nations, when it will be formed,
33:58it will probably go to Iran and the United States and the United States.
34:05Right, right.
34:08Ambassador, thank you very much for joining me in the program.
34:11If this is not like this and veto powers,
34:13then the problem will be that the world's rule-based order is completely collapsed.
34:19UN, unfortunately, 2-3-5 years ago,
34:23genocide didn't stop Palestine despite all the resolutions.
34:26So, this is why the vetoes are made,
34:29it will also be important to keep the government's work in the future.
34:43We will talk about that after a break.
34:49Welcome back after the break.
35:14There are spoilers.
35:18Do we have any chance of that?
35:20Do we have any chance of that?
35:20Or, do we have to leave them to good children?
35:23Look, Anika, the treaties that are used in our foreign office,
35:28which is a term of cautious optimism,
35:32then the cautious optimism is what is needed.
35:35Because until it is done, it is not done until it is actually done.
35:39I don't want to be a devil's advocate or a pessimist.
35:42But I think that I have to understand that the details are made
35:45that we have openly told us,
35:49Iranian government and US government,
35:51obviously, we are still in the 40s,
35:53so we have no official version of it.
35:55But the important thing is that the short term agreement is not going to be
36:00there will be no spoilers in that.
36:03Because that is almost done.
36:04But the long term agreement,
36:06which is in the 60 days,
36:08which has been given in the 60 days,
36:09which now Iranians have publicly acknowledged,
36:12in which they have three charges for the state of Hormis
36:15and the rest of the deal,
36:18the other side of the deal,
36:20that only the vessels of Iranians are going to be
36:24and the traffic of IRGC will be controlled.
36:27And the other side of the deal is that
36:30there will be a lot of people who are hostile
36:33and they will not be allowed.
36:37And the other side of the deal is that
36:38Lebanon has to tie up for the ceasefire.
36:42So short term agreement, obviously,
36:44we have seen that ceasefire here,
36:46Iran has been extended and Lebanon has been.
36:48But in the 60 days of the time
36:50and the statement of Israel,
36:51that there will be a lot of friction
36:56And I hope I am wrong.
36:58But they are all looking at it.
37:00Because they have given statements publicly
37:02by Mossad and Nathan Yahoo.
37:05And this is the first time,
37:06that we are seeing that
37:08America has reprimanded Israel
37:11and these signs are also looking at
37:13that they have a liability for America.
37:16So in their craziness,
37:18which is their foreign policy
37:19and military policy,
37:21they can actually go to any extent
37:22to sabotage this deal.
37:24It will be short term.
37:25But long term,
37:26we will see it in the long term.
37:27Right.
37:28And this is the first time,
37:30that in US in those people,
37:32who were APEC supported,
37:33or were they supported,
37:35or were they supported,
37:35or were they supported,
37:36or were they supported,
37:36who were they supported,
37:37and were now in Israel.
37:38And now they are going to the first.
37:39And Israel first,
37:39they are going to the first.
37:41A lot of congressmen,
37:43a lot of statements,
37:45which are coming in US.
37:46And the US,
37:47they are going to the next
37:49And the US,
37:51they are going to the next
37:52point of view.
37:54And the US,
37:54who were the basis,
37:55they were not working on it.
37:57And the safety and security,
37:58the guarantees,
37:59that they were not working on it.
38:00And the Pakistan,
38:02Turkey, Egypt,
38:04and Saudi Arab,
38:06the foreign ministers,
38:07and other countries.
38:08And beyond that,
38:09it was the first thing
38:10that there was an Islamic
38:11NATO type of thing
38:12and regional stuff.
38:15You see,
38:18this war,
38:19or at least ceasefire,
38:21or at least short term,
38:22this war.
38:25Thank you very much.
38:27The new realism is necessary.
38:31The new realism is necessary.
38:31It is the manifest,
38:32which is how it is,
38:32it will tell you.
38:34It will tell you.
38:34This time,
38:35the US,
38:36those among himself,
38:37the!,
38:37the Turkey tro data in Russia?
38:38the Turkey of aspirations
38:40direct
38:41times involved,
38:42approximately 11.
38:44And
38:44and
38:44yeah,
38:45the
38:45we had to
38:47understand that,
38:48let's see you.
38:49Tell us the
39:04everybody
39:04of Akash
39:05new realism is set. This is not a rocket science. It is not a base. It is a liability.
39:15Now, if they will disengage, then they will come to all blocks. This is very important
39:20that the terms of confidentiality, that GCC also doesn't know that the other countries
39:26are given to the naval base. So, this unhook will be dependent on how many hooks are
39:32with them. How much grip involved is, how much bilateral, stakes, pay attention,
39:37this is how much elements are. Wishful, I am sure, there is a lot of pressure
39:42domestically. You can see, all the countries in the middle of the country
39:47are retaliated, but they are not involved in the leadership. They are not involved
39:52in the leadership. They are not involved in the leadership. Because a legitimate level
39:57will be higher in Iran. If you have direct, then Iran will be all out.
40:08That is not an easy way to turn against us. These are very important
40:15ones by saying that there is a way to stop the president of Iran. It is really
40:49Because
40:51because this war will not be able to defend it, especially if a so-called visible victory
40:56in a position of a visible victory. So I think this exit strategy of President Trump
41:00has now been positive. I think that optics are only left behind. The whole thing is
41:05hopefully show spoiler or show stopper is now going to be every passing day.
41:10Right.
41:11So now, after the talk of a short term or long term, two countries in this time
41:17there are two sides of the line. There are two sides of the line. There are mid-term elections
41:21with Donald Trump and on the other side there are two sides of the line and a lot of polls
41:30show that too. The popularity of both of them is going down. Nathan Yahoo had already avoided
41:36a lot of things, cases and other cases. It's just the point of the war. It's just the
41:40war. I don't want to go away from these things. Do you face any way from any way these people
42:13domestically face-to-face pressure?
42:34This is the first time that we have seen a very different America towards us. And who
42:38has now been on Truth Social, Pakistan PM and Field Marshal, that is also unprecedented.
42:46That is also unprecedented. So one point is this. Impeachment is going to happen or not.
42:50The numbers are telling the numbers that are very different. So it is very different.
42:53Impeachment is going to look at the effects of impeachment. And if you look at this,
42:57which we are going to deal with, this is a very important point. This is why we are going
43:01to do that. In 2018, when Donald Trump came to be president, when Donald Trump was
43:08made a deal that was brought to us, H-C.P.O.A. Census Bureau, he would have做
43:13it. They could do that. But then it would have to describe it. The idea
43:15of the price of the deal was on the new deal. The deal was on the thing. And for
43:1634 months later, that deal was on theçi diplomat that had on the other side, was
43:21on the side of the deal. The deal with the deal, which was on the deal, it was on the
43:21line
43:22of deal. It was the package. This is not limited because we were on the
43:24package. This is the process. This is the process. This is the process. It
43:29could be possible. It could be possible. It could be possible. It could be possible.
43:37ملاحات غلط ہو جاتے ہیں تو ہم اس کے
43:39directly جو ہے وہ outcomes کے جو ہے
43:40سفرز بھی ہوں گے دوسری بات جو آپ نے
43:43کی وہ نیتن یاہو کے حوالے سے کی
43:44ان کی impeachment اور imprisonment
43:47میں تو صرف اور صرف جنگ کا یہ
43:48ایک جو مقام ہے
43:50that is the only difference that's there
43:52میرے خیال میں ابھی بھی جو
43:55statements تیل ایویوز میں سے
43:56آ رہی ہیں اس کے اندر وہ
43:58answer پایا جا رہا ہے کہ they will do
44:00spoilers اور اگر آپ
44:02polls دیکھ لیں جو اسرائیل سے جو ہے
44:04وہ آ رہے ہیں public sentiment
44:06کے حوالے سے it's very
44:08clear they don't know how to stop
44:11چرسی صاحب
44:12پیٹرو ڈالر سے وین آف کیا تقریبا
44:14تین دہائی کے بعد KSA نے
44:16کیا باقی ممالک اس طرح سے کر سکیں گے
44:18at least شروع کر لیا انہوں نے وین آف
44:20کرنا so وہ dependence ختم
44:22ہوتی جاری ہے which is why KSA بڑا
44:24actively پاکستان کے ساتھ بھی defense deal
44:26کر رہے ہیں and otherwise as well
44:28خطے کے اندر بڑا active نظر آ رہا ہے
44:30so آپ کو لگتا ہے کہ باقی ممالک
44:32یہ حمد کر سکیں گے militarily
44:34بھی strategically بھی
44:36diplomatically بھی
44:38دیکھئے پچاس سال میں
44:40بہت کچھ بدل گیا میں سیونٹی تری
44:41سیونٹی فور کی آپ چھوٹی سی مثال دیکھے آگے
44:44چلتا ہوں OPEC نے تیل بند کیا تھا
44:45Arab Israel war کے بعد
44:46ڈالر تین ڈالر سے بارہ ڈالر
44:50پہ چلا گیا تھا oil اس زمانے میں چار گنا
44:52زیادہ چلا گیا تھا اور بڑی سٹرینج
44:54بات جو آپ کو بڑی فنی
44:56لگے یا سٹرینج لگے اس زمانے میں
44:58OPEC کے تمام ممالک نے ویسٹ اور
44:59امریکہ کو تیل بند کر دیا تھا اور
45:01rescue کیا تھا ایک ملک نے شاہ فران
45:03اس زمانے میں
45:04تو ایران پچاس سال پہلے تیل
45:07stabilize کرنے والے ملکوں میں سے تھا
45:09جس نے undo اس کی effort کی
45:11کافی حد تک OPEC کی اور آج
45:13opposite ہو رہا ہے کہ باقی دنیا ایک طرف ہے
45:15اور ایران جو ہے وہ stand alone
45:17hormones کو چوک کر کے وہ کر رہا ہے
45:19تو جو military کی آپ بات کر رہی ہیں
45:21یہ تو dependent ہوگا کہ
45:22کتنے stakes نکل آسے ہیں جیسے میں نے کہا
45:25کہ depend کریں گے کہ
45:26امریکہ کیا incentive offer کرتا ہے
45:28اسرائیل کتنا لے آف کیا جا سکتا ہے
45:30اس پوری scheme کے اندر
45:31اگر اسرائیل active player رہا
45:34اور اسرائیل کی dominance
45:35decision making میں رہی
45:37جیسے آج سے 45 دن پہلے تک
45:39اسرائیل کی بہت زیادہ dominance تھی
45:41اور یہاں تک نہیں جان کیری نے بھی کہا تھا
45:43کہ اسرائیل نے بہت convince کیا تھا
45:44ان کے دورے قومت میں بھی کہ
45:46چطرہ حملہ کر لیں
45:47ٹرمپ وان ٹین ایور میں بھی انہیں کیا تھا
45:48اوباما کو بھی کیا تھا
45:49بائیڈن کو بھی کیا تھا
45:50تو آنے والے پچھلے جو گزرے ہیں
45:53بیس سالوں میں نیتنی یاؤ نے
45:54ہر وہ کوشش کی تھی
45:55ہر پریزیڈنٹ کو کوشش کریں
45:57لیکن جہاں شروع ہو گیا
45:58وہ ہو گیا
45:59وینیزویلا کا جو کامیاب operation
46:01وہ ایک reference set ہوا
46:02اس کے بعد ایک military option کا
46:04ایک misleading قسم کا
46:05decision president trap نے لیا
46:07جس کے اندر خاص طور پر نیتنی یاؤ نے
46:09امریکن پریزیڈنٹ کو convince کیا
46:10کہ یہ وینیزویلا پلاس ہے
46:11اور اس کے اندر سب سے بڑا risk
46:13یا caution یا warning ہوتی ہی یہی ہے
46:16جو اتنی آسان victory آپ کو مل جائے
46:17اس کے ساتھ ایک baggage بھی ہوتا ہے
46:19baggage یہ ہوتا ہے
46:20کہ جب آپ اتنی quick victory لے لیتے ہیں
46:22تو آپ کو یہ غلط فہم ہی ہو جاتی ہے
46:24کہ military ہر وقت
46:25ہر target اور ہر موقع پہ
46:27استعمال ہو سکتی ہے
46:28امریکی پریزیڈنٹ نے یہی کیا
46:30اور یہی غلطی تھی
46:31آپ کو equidiction ہو جاتی ہے
46:32یا appetizer کے طور پر
46:34وہ فتح آپ کو act کرتی ہے
46:35کہ if i can do this with left hands
46:37what will i do with the right hand
46:38یہ جب ایک آپ کا ذہن بن جائے
46:40تو ساری miscalculation در لیڈ ہوتی ہے
46:42یہی ہوا چالیس دن کے بعد
46:43آپ دنیا گواہ ہے
46:44کہ نہ صرف دنیا hostage بنی
46:46militarily divide ہوئی
46:47west کہاں چلا گیا
46:49nato کہاں چلا گیا
46:50EU کہاں چلا گیا
46:51کینیڈا کو threat کیا
46:52پریزیڈنٹ نے
46:53پچھلے جنگوں میں آخری جملہ
46:54important یہ ہے
46:55کہ پچھلی جنگوں میں
46:57جب بھی امریکہ نے حملہ کیا
46:58عراق پر کیا
46:59سیریا پر کیا
47:00افغانستان پر پہلا والا حملہ کیا
47:02تو نیٹو ممالک آتے تھے
47:04after ceremonial
47:06United Nations کے ایک resolution کے بعد
47:08امریکہ پائل اپ کرتا تھا
47:10تمام نیٹو ممالک کو
47:11انسیکیورٹی پیدا کرتا تھا
47:12ریکوبلیگیشن پیدا کرتا تھا
47:14کہ جنا میرے پیچھے آؤ
47:15کیونکہ United Nations نے resolution پاس کرتا
47:16پھر کاملے سے approval لیا جاتا
47:18thank you very much
47:19کالی چشی صاحب
47:20تکار پردوسہ
47:20for joining me in the program
47:21لیکن اس بار نیٹو نے
47:22completely off کر دیا
47:23اور اس بار یورپین ممالک نے
47:24even اسرائیل کے ساتھ
47:26جو دیفنس
47:27ان کے پیکٹس ہیں
47:28اس کو
47:29یا دیفنس جو ڈیلز ہیں
47:30ان کو اور دیفنس کے
47:31جو چیزیں پہنچا رہے ہیں
47:34ان کو بھی روک دیا
47:35اس پہ ان نے بڑا
47:35clear stance بھی لے لیا
47:37so نیٹو
47:37یورپ in itself
47:38is at a different stage
47:39right now
47:40let's see what happens
47:41hopefully
47:41یہ ساری چیزیں
47:42اچھے طریقے سے
47:43خوشحصلوبی سے
47:47اللہ حافظ
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