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01:40As it happens, I did
01:43Chocolate Bourbons
01:45The King of Biscuits
01:46Lovely
01:49I mean, I know I bring them every time
01:51But they really are the best
01:53Quite right
01:54Couldn't agree with you more
01:57Afternoon, gents
01:59So, what's on the agenda?
02:01Big collections, potholes
02:02Or dog mess in Higginson Park?
02:05If we're really lucky, all three
02:06What a ray of sunshine you are, Terrence
02:09Oh, chocolate Bourbons
02:11You can't beat the velvety chocolate of a Bourbon biscuit
02:18Ah, Debbie, perfect timing
02:19Can I make you a coffee, darling?
02:21I can get my own
02:22Thank you, darling
02:24I just need to distribute these agendas
02:30There you are
02:36Marcus said he had a viewing in an hour
02:38So, how about we just crack on?
02:41Thank you
02:41Sadly, that won't be possible
02:43We can't start the meeting without Sophia
02:45We're not Quarrett
02:46Terrence
02:47Can you just overroll him, chairman?
02:49He's not the chairman
02:49He is
02:50He isn't
02:51Are you really saying
02:52The mayor of Marlow doesn't chair our meeting?
02:54Authority is only invested in the chair
02:56When the meeting has been convened
02:57And we're not Quarrett
03:05I'm sorry I'm late
03:06Just in time
03:07Come in, Sophia, come in
03:09I was in my studio and completely lost track of the time
03:15Have I missed anything?
03:20Right then
03:21That's the last of it
03:22Well done, everyone
03:23We're going to have to get on the road
03:24We're going to make the campsite by Nightpool
03:27Great outdoors awaits
03:31Sure you don't want to come with us?
03:32Instead of staying here
03:33With the whole house to yourself?
03:35Text me when you get there
03:36We are going to have so much fun
03:37Aren't we, Sam?
03:38And have a total digital detox
03:40These are going in the glove box
03:42Hurry up or get in
03:44You're getting in the back
03:44No, I'm not
03:45I'm always in the back
03:47Just leave each other alone
03:48Tell us to get in
03:50We'll swap halfway through
03:52We'll swap halfway through
03:54See you in four days
03:55I'm back
03:57Please wear sunscreen, both of you
04:31But företag it at night
04:31I'll swap halfway through
04:31So, what's that?
04:32Maybe I'll be swap halfwayâm
04:38item three gastronomy restaurant run by ferdy blake it's applying for a temporary late license
04:45something to do with the book launch i think oh sorry sorry to interrupt you're not interrupting
04:51we always want to hear from members of the public oh thanks it's just that bridge at temple it's
04:57still all locked up for safety but it's been months and the kids on the other side they can't walk
05:03to
05:03school their parents have to drive from the long way around into marlo unfortunately bridges fall
05:09under the purview of defra not tank there must be something you can do uh perhaps jeffrey you could
05:14have a quiet word with the landowner jeffrey jeffrey
05:29jeffrey
05:33jeffrey
05:40he's dead
05:42so
05:50so
06:17you played last week
06:21it's only fair that i pay this week no judith fair please no what you can do next week on
06:26my
06:26card please no no my card i invited you to brunch it would be un galant if i let you
06:32pay besides
06:34who knows if there's even going to be a next week indeed who knows oh excuse me i need to
06:41get this
06:46i'll be there in five i'll be there in five i've got it i have to go
07:11am i glad to see you what happened i don't know it was fast one minute he was sitting there
07:17next minute boof the man was on the floor did he say anything no but he did look at his
07:22coffee
07:22before he went up before he went over there there might have been something in it i told the witnesses
07:28to wait for you over there thank you jason alice initial statements gov and susie are you going to be
07:33okay
07:43i still can't believe it is it even possible was he unwell
07:49had he mentioned anything wrong no must have been a heart attack and you are sorry marcus percival
07:57marcus percival estates
08:00this is terence clarkson
08:01he runs a local architect's practice
08:04i take jobs nationally and this is debbie smith
08:08accountant and council secretary
08:15sorry sophia hollingbury i make a podcast a very successful podcast did you know anyone who may have had any
08:23grievance towards mr truman i'm afraid i'm going to have to stop you there because that is quite simply
08:28impossible i'm sorry oh terence is right
08:32jeffrey was the best of us it's how he ended up being there
08:36everyone loved jeffrey
08:48did nika tell you when the toxicology report was coming in
08:51no did either of you know it
08:56jeffrey i met him a few times at church events and remembrance sunday
09:00i only met him for 30 seconds then he died
09:02yes what were you doing at that meeting
09:05oh you know the bridge at temple
09:07it's been closed for months
09:08the landowner refuses to repair it
09:11i thought the council could make him mend it
09:13but apparently it's not a council matter
09:17oh
09:18okay here we go
09:22what
09:22it's not tanika
09:23oh
09:24what
09:26that's your going for brunch with darius face
09:29actually you couldn't be more wrong
09:30that's not what this is about at all
09:33so what is it about
09:34um
09:36i invited him
09:37for afternoon tea
09:39knew it
09:40it's just afternoon tea
09:42sure
09:43but it starts with brunch
09:45moves on to afternoon tea
09:46and before you know it you've been inviting him in for a nightcap
09:50i think it's wonderful
09:51stop it the pair of you
09:53there's a book on the avebury standing stones i want to lend him that's all
09:57yeah standing stones
09:59sure
10:01oh he's keen i'll give him that much
10:03it's tanika
10:07tanika
10:08have you got the toxicology report
10:10afternoon julia
10:11and yes the labs have run preliminary tests on the coffee in mr truman's cup
10:15they found traces of a poison called aconite
10:18he was poisoned
10:19the full report in the morning will tell us more but yeah it's hard to looking
10:24gotta go
10:25but thanks for the tip off susie
10:26it really helped
10:29so
10:30what's aconite when it's at home
10:31oh
10:32it's monkshead
10:33isn't it
10:33or wolf spain
10:34i think it's got another name as well
10:36okay impressive
10:37there's this gardening podcast i always listen to
10:40notes from a marlowe garden
10:41and the host is always talking about poisonous plants
10:44and which one she grows at home
10:45she didn't know jeffrey by any chance
10:47oh
10:49she was with him when he died
10:51it's sophia hollingbury
10:54hang on
10:54she did an entire episode on aconite earlier this year
11:00the garden is in little marlowe
11:13oh
11:14not a bad manner for someone who makes podcasts
11:24wow
11:27come on
11:34this way
11:38this is it isn't it
11:52don't touch a thing
11:54it could be dangerous
11:55well
11:56everything
11:57everything
12:04can i help you
12:05hello sophia
12:06i'm bex
12:07i'm a big fan of your podcast
12:09these are my friends
12:10judith
12:11and you've met susie
12:12we're civilian advisors to the police
12:14oh
12:15i'm so sorry to have to tell you that jeffrey was poisoned
12:18they found traces of aconite in his coffee
12:20no
12:21do you grow aconite
12:23well i do yes but
12:24well you can't possibly think it came from here
12:27lots of gardens have aconite
12:29it's such a beautiful flower
12:31it's very popular
12:32could have come from anywhere
12:34ew
12:35is
12:35is that human hair
12:37i take it from my hairbrush every morning
12:39keeps the slugs away
12:41i found over the years that the old ways are often the best ways
12:44and so much better for the environment
12:45oh you really do listen
12:47how did you get on with jeffrey
12:49i adored him
12:50he helped me
12:51how
12:53that was a long time ago
12:54i was on the works and buildings committee
12:56which included looking after the graveyards in various parishes
13:00i um
13:02i i i messed up
13:04could have gone into a lot of trouble
13:06but jeffrey he stepped in and sorted it all out
13:10he lived to help other people
13:16that's my husband
13:18sorry
13:18i'm gonna have to go
13:24paul
13:25paul wait up
13:26hang on paul
13:30jeffrey truman
13:31no listed next of kin
13:33became the mayor of marlow last year
13:35and he was also involved in the rotary club
13:39dementia action marlow
13:40meals for marlow
13:42it's actually quite a long list
13:44so he was a do-gooder
13:49which is good
13:50what do we get from the witness statements at the scene
13:52and they all said he was well liked and had no enemies
13:54they assumed it was natural causes
13:57there's nothing natural about someone putting aconite in your coffee
14:00exactly so let's find out who put it there
14:02rend and find out everything you can about the victim
14:04and check his home
14:08jason what was mr truman up to before the meeting where did he go who did he see and alice
14:12run background checks on the witnesses who they are and how did they get on with the victim
14:22did colin the kids leave this morning they did
14:24what's this colin's taking the kids camping
14:27it means that bex is put loose and fancy free
14:30i've dreamt of this for years
14:32no responsibilities for four whole days
14:35well you deserve it
14:37it's kind of spooky though isn't it
14:40everything looks so normal
14:43but there's a killer here somewhere
14:45that is of course floodplains permitting
14:49um i'm gonna have to leave you
14:51merci
14:55ladies
14:56i should introduce myself marcus percival
14:59i take it you're working with the police
15:01what makes you ask
15:02well your reputation precedes you mrs potts
15:04oh all good i hope
15:05do the police suspect foul play
15:08i'm afraid they do
15:09impossible
15:10what makes you say that
15:12because he was such a good guy
15:14never crossed anyone
15:15never took offense
15:17i can't imagine you've got any active leads
15:21let alone suspects
15:26of course
15:27you can't say
15:30anyway it was lovely talking to you
15:32i need to go shut up shop for the day
15:37was he just trying to pump us for information
15:39i think that's exactly what he was doing
15:43could jeffrey really have been that perfect
15:45oh excuse me
15:48hello
15:49follow the money
15:52i'm sorry
15:54who is this
15:55you want to know who killed jeffrey truman
15:57follow the money
15:59follow the money
16:01what money
16:08okay i've spoken to mr truman's neighbors
16:10no one saw him this morning
16:11we know he was at the council building at 1pm
16:14don't worry
16:14i'll keep digging
16:16tanika
16:16we need a number traced
16:18alice
16:18yeah
16:19judith's just had a call from a withheld number
16:21saying that if she wanted to find jeffrey's killer
16:23she had to follow the money
16:24who was this person
16:25no idea
16:26his voice was distorted
16:28do you mind if we put some software on your phone
16:30in case he calls again
16:31it would allow us to record him directly
16:32yes of course
16:33okay so the call came in at 5 17 p.m
16:36it came from a phone box near bovington green
16:38get over there alice
16:39find out if anyone saw who made the call
16:41on it
16:42but if we are following the money
16:44what have we got on mr truman's financials
16:46not much
16:47he lived modestly on a mixture of state and private pension
16:50no credit cards and no debt
16:52that might mean the council money
16:54brendan contact the council
16:55let's get all of their financial records
16:57all of them
16:58going back let's say the last five years
17:03got to go pick up shanty
17:15alice
17:16oh we've got what we can from the phone box
17:18but it's not much
17:20no witnesses
17:21no physical evidence
17:22what about fingerprints
17:23well the phone was wiped clean with a solvent
17:26as was the door handle
17:29okay
17:29finish up there
17:30and let's put this up in the morning
17:31but good work alice
17:32thank you
17:36pickle
17:37what's up
17:39nothing
17:42sure
17:43you know
17:44you can tell me or your dad anything
17:46is it something is it something at school
17:50i don't want to talk about it
17:54okay
18:14the doctor says his heart is facing him
18:17i'm sorry to hear that
18:27we've heard how aconite has earned its many names
18:30from monkshood in the monastery
18:32to wolfsbane in the forest
18:35but for me
18:36but for me
18:37what i can't get over
18:38is how a plant so pretty
18:40and ornamental
18:41can be so very very lethal
18:44but maybe that's just me
18:47until next time
18:48happy and above all safe
18:50gardening
18:52who could have wanted you dead
18:58what do you think jasper
19:00hmm
19:14is that all you've got
19:15one statement and no other credible witnesses
19:17none of them are really credible
19:20they're eight-year-old kids
19:22no of course
19:23sorry
19:24and i'm not saying that shanty bullied anyone
19:27but she is friends with the group of pupils who did
19:30i'll talk to her
19:31thank you
19:34sorry
19:36gotta take this
19:39brendan
19:40okay so the pm's in
19:42and it's been confirmed that mr truman died from a lethal dose of aconite
19:46do they know how it got into his coffee
19:48well they've checked all the other cups and tea making paraphernalia
19:52and they're all clear of poison
19:53the only thing that wasn't was one of the used coffee pods in the machine
19:57but get this
19:59forensics lifted two sets of fingerprints from the pod
20:02one was mr truman's
20:04and the other
20:05was council secretary debbie smith
20:07and you should know
20:09that according to the witness statements
20:10she's the only person
20:12other than jeffrey
20:13that ever used the coffee machine
20:16okay bring her in
20:30i've got this luna
20:42yeah right game on
20:47i still can't believe he was poisoned
20:49you know that
20:51i work for paul hollinbury
20:53sophia's husband
20:54he told me
20:56what do you say if i told you that your fingerprints were found on the coffee pod that poisoned him
21:01well that's impossible
21:02how so
21:04i had a normal coffee
21:08i think i think i know what's happened
21:10when i went to make my coffee there was already an old pod jammed in the slot
21:17i had to push it through
21:19if that one was jeffrey's that must be how my fingerprints got on it
21:24look i arrived after jeffrey had made himself his coffee
21:29what has alec miller told you
21:31who's alec miller
21:32the person who lays out the teas and coffees before all the council meetings
21:36you have spoken to him haven't you
21:41i kept hunting last night
21:43i got drawn into reading the comments under the council social media posts
21:48and there was one account
21:49marlowe's 1628 and it is horrible
21:54disgusting mayor
21:55then look what they said here
21:57cesspit
21:58nah
21:58that's out of order
21:59we've spent all this time looking for someone who hated jeffrey
22:03and here he is
22:06although it's not only jeffrey is it
22:08i mean whoever that is
22:10he hates everyone
22:13oh here she is
22:14our lady of leisure
22:15did you have a nice lie in
22:16me
22:17bless you
22:18please tell me you've been having a proper break
22:21oh absolutely
22:22yeah
22:23100%
22:26actually
22:27no
22:28i haven't
22:29oh begs
22:30i know
22:31i'm furious with myself
22:33i sat down to watch telly last night
22:35and i was all set
22:36nice glass of wine
22:38bar of chocolate
22:39love it
22:40and then i noticed the games cupboard looked a bit messy
22:42no
22:43tell me you didn't
22:44i just thought it would be a quick tidy
22:45she did
22:46you know how it goes
22:47once that cupboard was tidy
22:49all the other cupboards looked terrible
22:50before i knew it
22:52i had the marigolds on
22:53and i was giving the sitting room a once over
22:54what an idiot
22:55you could have at least come round here
22:56made yourself useful
22:58and cleared out judith's stash of old newspapers
23:00do you mind
23:01but that's the thing
23:02it was useful
23:03once i'd finished the sitting room
23:05i moved on to colin's study
23:06and it seemed stupid not to
23:07well he's away
23:09it's needed a deep clean for months
23:11and i was reordering some old files
23:13and i found this
23:14what is it
23:15remember how sophia said she'd been involved in a muddle
23:18when she was in charge of the graveyards
23:19well i found all these cuttings and correspondence about it
23:23from 15 years ago
23:24the parish kept the records
23:26this wasn't some minor mishap
23:28sophia mixed up where people were buried
23:30it was pretty bad
23:32the location of one body was never found
23:34but she's right when she says jeffrey's sorted it out
23:37there's letter after letter between him and the bishop of oxford
23:41reading between the lines
23:42if it wasn't for jeffrey
23:43she may have ended up being prosecuted
23:48oh
23:48oh
23:49it's tanika
23:51hello
23:52just a quick update judith
23:54there was possibly a fifth person at the council meeting
23:56a man called alec miller
23:57he lives in marlow bottom
23:58we're going to talk to him now
23:59shall we meet
24:01oh
24:02she's hung up
24:03it's a bit of a mistake if you ask me
24:05she's going to the wrong address
24:06and you know that
24:07you know what alec does the teas and coffees for some of our church events
24:11he's got a caravan by hurley lock
24:12and he moves to it every summer
24:14and tanika's gone to his house in marlow bottom
24:17you know what i think
24:18i think we can guess
24:19it's our civic duty
24:21to help the police in every way we can
24:23and sometimes that involves going to the right address
24:26when they've gone to the wrong one
24:37the mayor always had a kind word for everyone
24:40a lovely man
24:41it's terrible what's happened to him
24:43at the hands of locustor
24:45no less
24:45at the hands of who
24:46emperor nero had an infamous assassin called locustor
24:50whose weapon of choice
24:52was poison
24:53you do not fail to live up to your reputation mrs potts
24:58how do you know jeffrey was poison
25:01have your tea
25:03and i'll tell you
25:21i bumped into marcus in town
25:23he told me
25:24so if you prepared the tea and the coffee for the meeting
25:27and you know that jeffrey was poisoned
25:29why haven't you spoken to the police
25:30what would i say
25:31i wasn't there
25:33i'm sorry
25:34i got a phone call
25:36yesterday morning
25:37telling me not to come in
25:40hello
25:41who is this
25:42good morning
25:43it's sophia hollingbury
25:44she rang and told me i wasn't needed
25:46the meeting had been cancelled
25:49well that was a waste of time
25:53oh you're kidding
25:57so while we went on a wild goose chase
25:59your civilian trio went to alec miller's summer residence
26:02for a chat
26:03he's saying that sophia hollingbury rang him
26:05and told him not to attend the council meeting
26:10gov
26:12oh sorry
26:17shanti's got herself mixed up in some trouble at school
26:20there's been some bullying
26:21oh
26:22well that doesn't sound like her
26:23i don't know what to do
26:25um
26:27talk to her
26:29get her to tell you what happened in her own words
26:31you mean like a witness interview
26:33well isn't everything in life a bit like a witness interview
26:38she's a good kid
26:39you think
26:40yeah of course
26:41she's your daughter
26:50with her number
26:52call to nika
26:53it could be our mystery caller again
26:55how many rings will it go to answer for
26:56i don't know
26:57seven
26:57eight
27:03answer it
27:06hello
27:06nika
27:07x
27:08have you followed
27:09judith's mystery caller is talking to her again
27:12alice
27:13run a trace on the incoming call to judith's phone
27:15on it
27:17um
27:17we have
27:18we haven't found anything
27:20not yet
27:22she needs to keep him talking
27:23tell judith
27:24she needs to keep him talking
27:28have you followed the money
27:30um
27:32are you talking about council money
27:34it would help if you could be a bit more specific
27:37yes
27:38it's council money
27:39um and what bit
27:42of the council
27:43is it um housing
27:45no uh what about travel and transport
27:50no um
27:55uh knitting
27:57waste
27:58no no no not knitting
27:59waste disposal
28:00look at the petty cash
28:04what area of the petty cash
28:06what area of the petty cash
28:06hello
28:07are you there
28:10he's gone
28:10which part of this
28:12looks like knitting
28:13what was it
28:14he's tying up the dog poo bag
28:16and putting it in the bin
28:17of course
28:18that's actually quite good
28:19oh hold on
28:20it's a phone box outside all saints gate
28:22we're leaving right now
28:23tanika says the call came from
28:25a phone box just outside all saints
28:26by the gates
28:27they're going to check it out
28:28well how long is that going to take them
28:30i reckon if we're quick
28:32we might catch a few witnesses
28:33there's no way we'll get to all saints fast enough
28:35oh
28:36you want to bet
29:03remember the bridge restrictions
29:05not this fast
29:05cross the ground 2d
29:06i agree with that
29:07i can do this
29:09i can do this
29:12easy
29:14easy
29:14you've got about
29:16two inches on this side
29:19you all right bob
29:21hello suzy
29:26careful
29:26i'm doing it
29:27careful
29:28i'm doing it
29:29one inch
29:30oh this is tight
29:31i hate these speed spoilers
29:33right
29:34let's shift it
29:36let's shift it
29:38let's shift it
29:39let her drive
29:40fool
29:43oh my
29:46give me strength
29:47hold on
29:50hold on
29:51yeah
29:56suzy
30:12see if anyone saw anybody use this phone box
30:15someone must have seen him
30:18oh
30:19oh sir have you seen anyone use this phone box
30:21no
30:21hello excuse me back
30:22have you seen anyone use this phone box
30:24no sorry
30:39still nothing
30:40no one sort of thing
30:41no cctv either
30:44gov
30:45gov it's the same as before
30:46everything's been wiped clean
30:47no fingerprints
30:48no nothing
30:49so it's got away
30:50again
30:53begs
30:53what do you know about peregrine falcons
30:57brendan
30:58brendan
30:58i need your help
31:03there's a pair of falcons that hatch their chicks every year
31:05in the spire
31:07and why are you telling me this
31:10a local bird watching society have a webcam pointed at them
31:16you can watch the nest live but they record it on the laptop up here
31:31it's not much higher is it
31:33no
31:35you okay with heights
31:36i don't love them
31:39just don't look down
31:45it's just a little ladder
31:52look it's as i thought
31:53the webcam picks up more than just the nest
31:56oh
31:57that's cool
31:59the view
32:00no the birds
32:04now the call came in at midday or thereabouts
32:09that's him
32:10our mystery caller
32:18let's have a look
32:19who the hell are you
32:23whoa
32:23great work
32:25brex
32:26come on good
32:26i'm sure
32:27oh yeah
32:28so what happens now
32:30well i imagine the police will try to identify the mystery caller
32:34which leaves us free to ask the only question that matters
32:37why did sophia stand alec down
32:42and now onto a topic
32:43i know vexes a lot of us as we head into the drier months
32:46tomo or not tomo
32:51tomo or not tomo
32:54and now onto a topic
32:55i know vexes a lot of us as we head into the drier months
32:58tomo or not tomo
33:00i haven't time to be interrupted
33:03look we just wanted to know why you rang alec miller yesterday and told him that the meeting had been
33:09cancelled
33:09sorry what are you talking about
33:10are you saying you didn't ring him
33:12that's exactly what i'm saying
33:13then who did
33:16i don't know
33:17either alec's lying or it was someone pretending to be me
33:20either way i didn't call anybody yesterday
33:22i don't suppose you know this person
33:24i don't recognize a note
33:28oh the plot thickens
33:30what are the three of you doing here
33:31we could ask you the same question
33:33as it happens we're meeting to discuss options for a commemorative bench for jacob
33:41true son of marlowe
33:42yeah that's the one i would choose
33:45none of you know who this is do you
33:48oh no i think i do
33:50didn't he do your podcast studio dave or someone
33:54paul hired him to do some work in the office as well
33:56his name's dave butler
33:58if it's the same person that did your little studio there
34:07you've identified our mystery caller
34:09no it's the victim
34:10i found him
34:11i've been checking all of the cctv footage i could find near the council building
34:15so
34:16it's ten minutes before the meeting
34:18near the cemetery
34:19look
34:21he's with terence clarkson
34:22and he's not happy
34:24good work jason
34:25it's a shame there's no sound
34:27wait hold on who's that
34:28what is that
34:29zoom in a bit
34:32oh god
34:33what
34:34it's mrs eddingham
34:38okay this is it
34:40dave butler
34:41great marlowe it services
34:45nice spot
34:51i think i can see your house over there judith
34:53i think you're right
34:59what do you want
35:00dave butler
35:05we believe you have some explaining to do
35:07i was only trying to help
35:08by making anonymous phone calls
35:12why didn't you just ring the police
35:15i didn't want to get involved
35:17i was hoping mrs potts would do the work for me
35:19i think you need to tell us everything you know
35:23now
35:24okay
35:26it's not much
35:28a while back
35:29i saw a spike in how much petty cash the council was spending
35:32they're published on the council website
35:34three thousand pounds last year
35:36four thousand this year
35:37but i couldn't see a reason for the sudden jump in claims
35:40and you think the extra cash
35:43could be connected with jeffrey's death
35:45it could be
35:46he was such a good man
35:47if he discovered anything dodgy
35:49he'd have gone straight to the police
35:52maybe that's why he was killed
35:54to stop him from doing just that
35:57you say he was a good man
35:59you knew him
36:00years ago i wanted to be a writer
36:02i got into a young writer's scheme
36:03and jeffrey was one of the mentors
36:05he really helped me with the book i was writing
36:08high fantasy
36:09the warlocks of winhaven
36:11but then my mum died
36:12and i moved to the states to live with my aunt
36:15last year i moved back to marlow
36:16and that's when i bumped into jeffrey
36:18it's you isn't it
36:19dave butler
36:21jeffrey truman
36:22we worked together on your warlock book
36:24gosh
36:25he said he'd try and help me get my book published
36:28we've been working together ever since
36:33his ideas amazing
36:35on structure
36:36character
36:38can you prove any of this
36:40go to jeffrey's house
36:42there's a spare key by the back door
36:43i think
36:44and you'll find my manuscript in his office
36:46you'll be able to see how well we've been working together
36:49where were you when he died
36:50i was here
36:51on my own
36:53but his death is a disaster for me
36:56don't you see that
36:58it's been my dream to be published my whole life
37:00and it's not gonna happen now
37:07you're right
37:07i did see them arguing
37:09from a bush
37:10that's really not the point
37:12it very much sounds like the point to me
37:14leslie
37:15don't you have some other place to be
37:17no
37:19perhaps if we could focus on what you heard
37:22i'm not sure if i
37:24put the right bins out this morning
37:26you know it's a blue bin day
37:28is it
37:29i just don't remember
37:39i remember now
37:42the younger man was saying the most horrible things to mr truman
37:47what was the argument about
37:48i couldn't quite tell
37:50but i definitely heard jeffrey saying
37:53the other man had handled the situation badly
37:57he said it a few times
37:59whatever it was
38:00he's handled the situation badly
38:18okay this is the house
38:24see if you can find the key
38:27i found it
38:28what
38:29it's in the door
38:30that doesn't feel right
38:32let me call tanika
38:33let her know
38:34and while you do that
38:35why don't we make ourselves useful
38:44i don't understand
38:45well it's simple really
38:46you were seen arguing with mr truman
38:49twenty minutes before he died
38:50it was
38:51just a misunderstanding
38:53about
38:54i um
38:55wanted the comments turned off
38:57on the council website
38:59seriously
39:00there are nasty people out there
39:02and it can get personal
39:03that's all it was about
39:04i wanted the comments turned off
39:06and he wanted to leave and turned on
39:10then why did jeffrey keep saying
39:11that you'd handled the situation badly
39:14he was just saying i was being aggressive
39:16which i was
39:17and i had to calm down
39:19at the meeting i tried to apologise
39:22but he'd already moved on
39:23that was him all over
39:24he didn't dwell
39:26that's all it was
39:27a minor disagreement
39:28and he forgave me
39:29who prepared the tea and coffee for the meeting
39:31i'm sorry
39:33we're just trying to ascertain
39:34who put out the poisoned coffee for mr truman
39:37was it alec miller
39:38it wasn't alec i saw through the window
39:40there was someone else there
39:42who
39:43i don't know
39:44i couldn't see through the glass
39:45i think it was a man
39:47but they didn't have the build of alec
39:49and they had light hair
39:50why didn't you mention this in your witness statement
39:53at the time
39:54i thought jeffrey had died of natural causes
39:58if you're looking for the person
39:59who put the poison in jeffrey's coffee pot
40:01i bet it was the person in the kitchen
40:32i bet it was the person in the kitchen
40:36i think i found it
40:38judith
40:50you've got it
40:51babe was telling the truth
40:53jeffrey's really trying to help him
40:55and he's positive kind and supportive
40:57it's like everyone's been saying
40:58then why'd he have to die
40:59there must be some dark secrets in his life
41:02everyone has secrets
41:07hey
41:11oi stop right there
41:20oi you
41:21come back here
41:24jenica
41:25you need to come to jeffrey's house at once
41:53okay it's another wall
41:55we can get over this
41:57come on
42:01that's it
42:02come on cc
42:03careful
42:04i'm over
42:05yeah
42:07there he is
42:08come on
42:12let's go
42:14i can't see
42:15i said no more walls
42:30no that's not possible
42:32we can do it
42:34are you mad
42:34are you mad
42:37no
42:37i told you
42:39we can't do it
42:40we can't do it
42:40we can't do that
42:41oh
42:46judith
42:47in here
42:50we lost him
42:52did you see who it was
42:54oh we were so close
42:56but no
42:56no idea
43:00what's that
43:01you know you wanted jeffrey
43:03to have a dark secret
43:04stop
43:05or tell
43:07everyone
43:08your secret
43:11thank you
43:13bye
43:14bye
43:15bye
43:17bye
43:18bye
43:18bye
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