00:11In this moment we are in the department of Caquetá.
00:16We are part of the Organic Organic Organic and Cacavoteros
00:20of San José del Fragua, Azuacazán.
00:23The goal of the association is to protect and improve the quality of life
00:28and its associates, without causing damage to the environment
00:31or to minimize the impact of the hombre in the environment.
00:35This cacavoteros began in 2010-2011
00:39after we decided to leave a number of producers
00:44to leave the cacavoteros and to seek peace and prosperity
00:49and to build a social structure in the region.
00:51We were bored of the war, of the violence.
00:54Those illegal crops only carry out war,
00:59carry out violence, displacement and uncertainty.
01:11During the 1990s, even in 2000s,
01:16Some areas of Perú, for example, San Martín, were areas of production of coca,
01:25of coca illegal, and that also had presence of violence, violence of armed groups.
01:32So the context of San Martín was quite similar to the process that began in Caquetá
01:39a few years ago, and I think that is possible this transition,
01:43to pass from a context of illegal crops, of violence, poverty, insecurity, to pass from a crop like Caquetá.
02:10This is a agreement in which the national government is committed to preserve the forests,
02:17which are located in areas that have been affected by the armed conflict,
02:21and also to improve the economic conditions of the small cacao-cultures.
02:26So we entered Cacao for the Vida,
02:29focusing initially on the territory of the Amazonia,
02:33the departments of Putumayo, Guaviare and Caquetá.
02:36What we want to do is close the agricultural border,
02:38is to say, those areas that have been forested,
02:42convert them again in cultivos de cacao asociados with the forest.
02:47From the program, we are doing measurements of the return of biodiversity,
02:52the fauna in the territory,
02:54and we recorded with microphones and cameras,
02:56the birds, the different birds, the different aves,
03:00the different species that return to the territory,
03:04and we can demonstrate that it is a crop that regenerates the ecosystem,
03:09that brings it back to life again.
03:26In this area, the cacao culture is relatively new,
03:31there are very few hectares cultivated,
03:34the production is still in the process of growth.
03:37You have to be careful,
03:38because these departments also have a jungle to protect.
03:42So in that sense,
03:45we have to be very clear about
03:47that we do not want to expand the border.
04:00This that we do here,
04:03is going to export for Italy and France.
04:08This in Europe,
04:10which are a very important country,
04:12which are our commercial allies,
04:14thanks to previous projects,
04:18we can get this benefit.
04:21For one, it is a very big satisfaction,
04:24because working,
04:28or,
04:28one is giving this to a passion,
04:32with a great love,
04:35and to achieve that goal,
04:36to achieve that goal,
04:37to be able to bring this grain to Europe,
04:40that is a great satisfaction.
04:41It is very big.
04:42It is not only that we have linked
04:43our gentlemen,
04:45men,
04:45but we have also linked
04:46a lot of women.
04:48Why?
04:50Because the issue of the cacao,
04:53there we can be all the family,
04:56we,
04:58with our children,
04:59with our partner.
04:59So,
05:00thanks to that,
05:01the women,
05:03they have seen in the cacao,
05:06a possibility
05:07for them to empower themselves.
05:10For us,
05:11for Amazon,
05:12the cacao amazonic,
05:13is a gold coin.
05:15For the Quichua culture,
05:17it is a symbol of peace and love,
05:19to be able to develop
05:21work and harmony.
05:23Well,
05:24to call the attention
05:25to our markets,
05:26in this case,
05:26to the markets,
05:27it is mainly the culture.
05:30How it develops,
05:32how it develops
05:33the ancestral knowledge
05:35and scientific knowledge.
05:38And the other important point
05:39is also a differentiated system
05:42compared to the Western countries.
05:44In many developed countries,
05:45like the Costa del Marfil,
05:47Ghana and other parts of the world,
05:49they talk about monoculture
05:50and they talk about economic resources.
05:51They have never talked about environmental resources,
05:54but the indigenous people
05:55have already developed in this context.
05:57For us,
05:58we don't only see a mineral,
06:00we see,
06:01as indigenous peoples,
06:02in a context,
06:04an intangible value.
06:05We can say
06:06that it should be
06:08taxed with a high percentage
06:10of economic resources
06:11to be able to develop
06:12and say,
06:13look,
06:14this cacao comes from
06:15the Ecuadorian Amazon.
06:16The environmental environment
06:17in which it is developed
06:18must be identified
06:20for a different market
06:24market,
06:24in which it is important
06:26in environmental issues,
06:27in which it is interested
06:29in a sustainable
06:31and, obviously,
06:32free of forestation,
06:33which is supported
06:34under a technique
06:36that identifies
06:37the free of forestation
06:39in a framework
06:39of transparency
06:40and traceability
06:42that are common elements.
06:43the same framework
06:46can be used
06:47in the neighboring countries
06:48of Peru and Colombia.
06:50They have presented
06:50a lot of interest
06:51in replicating
06:52these pilots
06:53under their realities
06:55to adapt
06:56or improve
06:58these pilots
07:00according to their realities
07:01and make sure
07:02as a region,
07:04Ecuador,
07:05Colombia
07:05and Peru,
07:06a region
07:07that is looking for
07:08sustainable
07:09and free forestation.
07:11And we'll see you next time.
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