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The Kelly Clarkson Show Season 7 Episode 112
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00:16Welcome to the Tony Clarkson Show.
00:20It's so great when we can have an open-coming artist
00:24join us for the opening music.
00:26And this hour, you are in for something special, y'all.
00:28He is a country artist from the great state of Texas,
00:31who is named one of Spotify's all-genre artists to watch.
00:34He also just got an ACM nomination
00:36for Best New Male Artist of the Year.
00:39His debut album is called Texas Forever,
00:42and his new EP is called Exclusive.
00:44Both are available now, performing Painted You Pretty.
00:46Give it up for Hudson Westbrook.
01:06There's a heaven up in the sky
01:09And another one south of Dallas
01:13I'm looking at it firsthand tonight
01:16No ifs, ands, or buts about it
01:19Got to draw you in smoothness in
01:22Take a look, you look again
01:24Bang the town's talking about
01:26There ain't a pick-up line for one of a kind
01:29Worth a shot, worth a try
01:31So baby, won't you hear me out?
01:34Your picture perfect, you don't need no framing
01:37You'll be hanging on my mind
01:39But don't know how many days
01:42Kind eyes make the killer man smile
01:45The kind I ain't seen around here in a while
01:48Usually don't see a work of art in a bar
01:52So girl, in case you didn't know
01:55God came to you pretty
01:57And I bet you got a lot of gold
02:03And what's the story with the turquoise ring?
02:06I notice there ain't one on your left hand
02:10And do you fare for days while in the spring?
02:13I can tell the sun's been kissing on your tent
02:16Got the Rock Hill Southern Bell
02:19Think you put me in a spell
02:21Girl, I'm singing about
02:24Your picture perfect, you don't need no framing
02:28You'll be hanging on my mind
02:29But don't know how many days
02:31Your kind eyes make the killer man smile
02:35All the kind that ain't seen around here in a while
02:38Usually don't see a work of art in a bar
02:42So girl, in case you didn't know
02:45God painted you pretty
02:47And I bet you got a heart of gold
02:52God painted you pretty
02:55And I bet you got a heart of gold
03:01Go, gold
03:04I bet you got a heart of gold
03:17One more time, y'all
03:18Let's hear it for Hudson Westbrook
03:25Dude, congratulations on everything
03:27You are still so young
03:29And you just were nominated to ACM
03:30This is so exciting
03:31Yes
03:31Yeah, I think the crazy thing is
03:33Whenever I was going to Texas Tech
03:35Like two years ago
03:37Never even thought I'd play a show outside of Texas
03:39So to be nominated for something
03:40It was super special
03:42I called my mom first off
03:43She started bawling her eyes out
03:45But it was a cool moment
03:47Just because
03:48Also the credibility that country music gives you
03:51By nominating you
03:52For sure, your peers
03:53Just to be nominated, I'm happy
03:55I know it sounds like a tool statement
03:56But I say that too
03:57Because the thing is
03:58Usually if you're nominated
03:59Sometimes you can get a performance slot
04:00And that's really my favorite part
04:02Isn't even winning
04:03It's getting to show people
04:04Why I love to do what I do
04:05Like it's better to me
04:06Than like winning
04:07And just, you know
04:08Being in the game
04:09You're 21, man
04:10That's young
04:10You're just getting started
04:11I can't wait to see it
04:12Try to fight
04:13Try to fight
04:13Yeah, that's awesome
04:14Thank you so much, Hudson
04:16Everybody give it up for Hudson
04:17One more time
04:18His latest music is
04:20It's crazy about now
04:21Get it wherever you get your music
04:23Let's move on to our lead guest, y'all
04:25He is the creator
04:26And star of the beloved comedy series
04:27Schitt's Creek
04:28With the show
04:29He became the first person
04:30To win Emmy Awards
04:32For acting, directing, writing
04:33And producing in a single year
04:35That's because he's awesome
04:36He's also been honored by GLAAD
04:38The Critics' Choice Awards
04:39And the Human Rights Campaign
04:40His new series is so good
04:44I was watching it literally
04:46Before I came out
04:47Because it's hard to stop watching it
04:48It's so good
04:49It's called Big Mistakes
04:51You can see the first season now
04:52On Netflix
04:53Everybody say hello to Dan Levy
05:10You look so hot
05:17I love this
05:19Yes, you look so good
05:21And these boots
05:21I'm for sure gonna steal
05:23Take them right off me
05:24I don't care
05:25No, so congrats on the new show
05:27I was not kidding
05:28I could not stop watching
05:29It's fun, right?
05:30Oh my god
05:31Me and my hair and makeup team
05:32We're kind of hard
05:33We watch a lot of stuff, right?
05:34Yeah, you got to
05:35And sometimes I'm still watching
05:36In the makeup show
05:37And we were all dying
05:38It's so funny
05:40Thanks
05:40The chaos of family
05:41The mistakes of your family
05:43That you have to, like
05:44It's so good
05:46Thank you very much
05:47I appreciate that
05:48Yeah, so I heard that this idea
05:50Came from a fear of being blackmailed
05:51By organized crime
05:52Which I think is irrational
05:54I think
05:55First of all
05:56I don't think people think enough
05:58About the potential of being blackmailed
06:01Into organized crime
06:02I mean, I've been talking about the show
06:05And people are like
06:05Well, that seems random
06:07Is it?
06:08Is it?
06:08It could happen to any of us
06:10Oh my god
06:11I just happened to write about it
06:12The research I did
06:13On people who have been blackmailed
06:15Into organized crime
06:17If you knew the things I know
06:19You'd also be terrified
06:21I have a friend that's
06:22And I think it's irrational
06:23But she is terrified
06:24Of being put in prison
06:25For something she didn't do
06:26That's like a big thing for her
06:28Are we sure she didn't do it?
06:30No, wait
06:30Give us a bit
06:31I already know a bit of the
06:34Episode's in
06:34But tell everybody
06:35Kind of what it's about
06:36So basically
06:36It's a brother and sister
06:37Who make a very small mistake
06:40That turns into a very big mistake
06:41And they don't know at the time
06:43That what they're doing
06:45Will eventually lead them
06:46To being blackmailed
06:48Into a life of organized crime
06:49Yes
06:51Comedy ensues
06:52Thrills ensue
06:53And it's basically asking
06:55The question of
06:56Yeah, that's me on a yacht
06:57You can see how uncomfortable
06:58Never been on one
06:59And will never be on one after
07:01But it's like
07:02It asks the question
07:04Of the audience
07:04What would any of us do
07:06If we found ourselves
07:08In this situation
07:10I would be instantly killed
07:13I'm just telling you
07:14I could figure my way out
07:15Until I could figure out
07:16I've got to run and change my name
07:18And do all the things
07:19I could do it for
07:20You distract enough
07:20Before the passport
07:21Of the fake passport
07:22Comes through
07:23And then you're on a plane
07:24And then I'm gone
07:24I get it
07:25Tell everybody about your character
07:26Because your character
07:27Has quite the
07:28Yeah
07:29I play a
07:30Straight from the pulpit
07:32I play a pastor
07:34Why are we laughing
07:37It's funny about that
07:38I play a pastor
07:39Who finds himself
07:40Roped into this criminal situation
07:43And obviously
07:44Not a great job to have
07:45When the crime
07:46Is knocking on your door
07:47For sure
07:47And I'm also a
07:49Gay pastor
07:50Who is a non-practicing
07:52Gay pastor
07:54Which is a thing
07:54In certain denominations
07:56Favorite line
07:56Was your partner going
07:57I would like to practice
07:57Practice
07:58I would like to practice
07:59A lot
08:00My character finds
08:02A boyfriend
08:03And has to hide him
08:04Away from the church
08:05Because he's been practicing
08:06And he's not supposed
08:07To be practicing
08:08So it opens up
08:09This conversation
08:10Which is crazy
08:11I know
08:12But I never wanted
08:13Faith or religion
08:14To ever be the butt
08:15Of the joke
08:15So we hired
08:16A gay pastor
08:17Yeah
08:18To read through
08:19Every script
08:19To make sure
08:20That none of it
08:21Was at the expense
08:22Of religion
08:23Or faith
08:24And I actually found
08:25The process of learning
08:26Yeah
08:27About what it is
08:28To be a gay person
08:30In the church
08:32To be so fascinating
08:33And faith
08:35I'm a spiritual person
08:36I'm not really
08:36A religious person
08:37Yeah
08:37But to play someone
08:39That has like
08:40A steadfast commitment
08:41And faith
08:42To a congregation
08:43And a belief system
08:44It was really
08:45Kind of enlightening
08:46And heartwarming
08:48Actually
08:49Yeah
08:50Do you think
08:50You're more like
08:51Nicky or David
08:52From Schitt's Creek
08:53Which one do you
08:53Oh wow
08:54I actually don't think
08:55I am like David
08:56In any way
08:57I mean
08:57Yeah
08:57He's a very
08:58Judgmental person
08:59And wears all of his
09:00Emotions on his sleeve
09:01Yeah
09:02I can't
09:03Do you bury yours
09:03No I'm a Canadian
09:04I'm just kidding
09:05We're so
09:05Yeah I do have some
09:06I have barriers
09:07Do you bury them
09:08No
09:09I think
09:09To play someone
09:10That really didn't care
09:12Whether I just
09:13Judged you
09:14For something you said
09:15Or something you said
09:16Yeah
09:16Like it's actually
09:17Kind of liberating
09:18Yeah how free is that
09:19But naturally
09:20I care about
09:21What everyone thinks
09:21Narcissists
09:23I care too much
09:24And Nicky my character
09:25Is far more cautious
09:26So I think it was
09:28A more natural
09:29Yeah
09:29World to explore
09:31Than David
09:31Who just like
09:32Really would give you
09:33Side eye for anything
09:34Oh my god
09:35Both characters
09:35Are so great
09:36Y'all have to watch
09:37This show
09:38Let's take a quick break
09:39With the help of
09:40Someone in the audience
09:41Hi Kelly and Dan
09:42I'm Dan too
09:43My sister and I
09:44Are huge fans
09:44We consider ourselves
09:45The real life
09:46David and Alexis Rose
09:47The show is basically
09:48Sacred in our household
09:49And we love that
09:50You now have a new show
09:51All about family
09:52Dynamics
09:52Stay here
09:53Kelly has more
09:54With Dan after this
10:02Do you see the truck?
10:03Do you see that truck out there?
10:05Well don't look like that
10:05Hide yourself a little bit
10:07What the fuck?
10:07Okay that man out there
10:09Followed me here
10:10From my house
10:11The guy
10:11You pissed off in the store
10:13He knocked on my door
10:14And threatened my reputation
10:16If I didn't get that necklace back
10:17Okay
10:18I don't know what to do
10:19So you thought it would be
10:20Would it be a good idea
10:20To lead him here
10:21To mom's house
10:22Where your entire family
10:23Is having dinner?
10:28Wow I wasn't really thinking
10:29Right about the rest of your family
10:31Oh Morgan
10:32Did you just eat falafel?
10:34We are back with Dan Levy
10:36That was a little bit
10:37New Netflix
10:37Big mistake
10:38It's so good
10:39You'll have to watch it
10:41I have a question
10:42So whenever I'm writing songs
10:43Sometimes when I'm writing
10:44For me
10:44It's a different thing
10:46Than I'm writing for somebody else
10:47So when you're writing for a character
10:48Do you see you playing them?
10:50I try to separate
10:51I try to like
10:52Write what's best
10:53For the character
10:54And then much much later
10:56I'll like
10:56Approach it as an actor
10:58Yeah
10:58And in this case
10:59There was like stunts
11:00And physical comedy
11:01That had to happen
11:02And I was like
11:02Why did I do that?
11:03Yeah
11:04I don't
11:05The part where you just go down
11:06Fall out of the back of a truck
11:07Oh my god
11:07Which by the way
11:08I will give credit
11:09To the stunt man
11:10Who actually did the fall
11:12How did he not break his face?
11:14Like I
11:14Well
11:14It's a job
11:15I get it
11:16But
11:17There
11:18No
11:21There may have been like a pad
11:23Oh okay
11:24Okay
11:24What did you think I was talking about?
11:26I thought you were about to say
11:27He broke his face
11:28Oh no imagine
11:29I'm like yeah
11:29There's a huge lawsuit
11:30He completely demolished his face
11:32I was like dang
11:32No there was like a light pad
11:34And then I went down
11:35And they
11:36I don't want to ruin the magic
11:37Of this show everybody
11:38Oh my god
11:39I did the stunt
11:40And I was good at it
11:41I am Tom Cruise
11:42That's it
11:43I do all my own stunts
11:44Oh my god
11:45I'm lying through my teeth
11:45It's funny though
11:47The physical comedy
11:47Is what makes it as well
11:49I also never get action roles
11:51Like we had scenes
11:53Where there's like rain pouring down
11:54And you have these like
11:55Incredible sort of like
11:56Rain sequences
11:57And I'm running through the rain
11:59And you have to get in a car
12:00And turn the car off
12:01Like
12:01Yeah
12:02I am normally like
12:04Quirky co-worker
12:05Who has like a
12:07Whippy one liner
12:08This is like
12:10Stuff
12:10Yeah
12:11I want more of it
12:12Oh you like it
12:13Yeah yeah yeah yeah
12:14I hope this like
12:15Opens a door down the line
12:16We'll see
12:16I think you would be hilarious
12:18In a big action film
12:19As like
12:20To like also
12:21The sidekick of that
12:22I love that we said hilarious
12:23No because your timing
12:25Because you're doing stuff
12:26But then having someone
12:27That's like huge in bulk
12:28I just
12:29I think it would be comedy gold
12:30It's me and John Cena
12:31It's like exactly
12:32In an action comedy
12:33Exactly
12:33Yeah someone make that
12:34You get me
12:35Exactly
12:35Okay
12:36You also write
12:37Incredible matriarchs
12:38Which I feel like
12:39There were a lot
12:40For us in TV and movies
12:41Growing up
12:42Like even like
12:43Claire Huxtable for me
12:43I remember she was
12:44Like a major art for me
12:45In my household
12:45Like there were certain
12:46Figures that I watched
12:47Growing up with shows
12:47Yeah
12:48Like you're so good
12:49At writing those
12:50Thanks
12:50Yeah like I only want
12:53My mother to be
12:54A titan of industry
12:55I think
12:56Yeah
12:56I just all
12:57That's all I need
12:58No it's like
12:59Like I've written parts
13:00That I think
13:00Really unbelievable actresses
13:02Have seemed to fall in love with
13:04Laurie Metcalf does so well
13:05Laurie Metcalf is so incredible
13:07In this show
13:08Oh wrong
13:09We love Laurie Metcalf
13:10She's so great in this
13:13Like you're like
13:14What
13:14Crushes
13:15Yeah she's so funny
13:16And yeah
13:17I just love writing
13:19Matriarchal characters
13:20And she came in
13:22And just brought such like
13:24Vitality and life to the role
13:26And she's so funny
13:27And there's never a false moment
13:28I love her so much
13:30Yeah
13:30Is it surprising to see your dad
13:32He was just here
13:32We were talking about it
13:33He does the travel show
13:33But he doesn't travel much
13:34In real life right?
13:35No he's the least curious person
13:37I've ever met
13:38I say that with so much love
13:40In my heart
13:40But no
13:41Were you surprised he did it then?
13:42Because that's all he does
13:43My father in the
13:44In he's
13:45He's like 79 years old now
13:48Wow
13:48I didn't even
13:49I didn't remember that
13:50Yeah he looks great
13:50I hope I inherit the
13:51Yeah
13:52Well done
13:53He's seen more of the world
13:55Than I have
13:56I
13:57And he had no interest in it
14:00He's been to India
14:01At this point
14:02He's kind of what is
14:03The watch is great
14:03Well that's exactly
14:04The point of the show
14:05Yeah yeah yeah
14:05Yeah I can't
14:06I mean he's just the sweetest guy
14:08And I love that this is something
14:10That he's starting to really
14:11Like like
14:12Yeah
14:12Because now I'm asking
14:13I'm like how's it going
14:14And he's like it's really
14:16I'm having a really nice time
14:19Having a really nice time
14:20He's having a really nice time
14:21Yeah
14:21Sometimes I think he's not
14:23Having a really nice time
14:24But he does it really well
14:25On the show
14:26He'll sell it all
14:27Yeah
14:27How has he influenced
14:28Though your career
14:29Because I know y'all
14:29Worked together on Chips Creek
14:30And it was a little bit
14:31Collaborative with you
14:31Asking him and stuff
14:32And I love that relationship
14:33Yeah
14:34Because not everybody
14:34Has that in this industry
14:35To bounce off of
14:36How was it
14:37Like did you bounce off
14:38Any of this with him
14:40This show
14:40It's very separate
14:41No this was different
14:42Um we
14:43No he taught me so much
14:45Like just writing
14:46Yeah like character work
14:48And taking the time
14:49To really think about characters
14:51Before you start writing
14:52Because I think like
14:52There's this impulse
14:53To just get pen to paper
14:55And start writing dialogue
14:56But if you don't know
14:57If you haven't spent the time
14:59On your characters
15:00You won't have anything
15:01To write down the line
15:02Yeah
15:02So I really learned
15:04Like invest in the time
15:06It takes to flesh out
15:07A character that's interesting
15:08That gives you a long life
15:10That an actor will want
15:11To come in and play
15:12Yeah
15:13And
15:13That has depth
15:14Yeah
15:14That has depth
15:15And when Rachel Sennett
15:16And I got down to writing
15:18The first episode of the show
15:19Love Rachel Sennett
15:20I heard you wrote it
15:20In like one day
15:21We wrote it in a day
15:22Wow
15:22We wrote the first draft
15:24In a day
15:24And we had pre-planned
15:26A lot of it
15:26We're both very organized
15:27And like
15:28Yeah
15:28We were A-types
15:30Okay
15:30But we just had
15:31The greatest time
15:32But yeah
15:32It's a lot of character work
15:34And I think you see that
15:35In this show
15:35Like
15:36The characters are developed
15:37They're fun
15:38Um
15:39Oh my god
15:39The boyfriend
15:40Yeah
15:41My dad
15:41Yeah
15:42Oh your dad is great
15:43I just
15:44I circled that
15:44I was like
15:44What was the question again
15:45Yeah
15:46You're right
15:46Yeah
15:46Yeah
15:46Yeah
15:47We have to take
15:48Another short break
15:49Dan's show
15:50Big Mistakes
15:51Is awesome
15:52It's now on Netflix
15:53And a couple of his co-stars
15:54Are going to be joining us next
15:55We'll be right back
16:07Welcome back
16:08Dan Levy is with us y'all
16:10Joining us now
16:12Are a couple of his co-stars
16:13From a new show
16:14One of them you saw
16:15On Succession
16:16And The Four Seasons
16:17On Netflix
16:18The other you know
16:19From the show Adults
16:20And from his very funny
16:21TikTok videos
16:22You can see everyone together
16:23In Big Mistakes
16:24Now on Netflix
16:25Okay
16:26I'm sorry
16:27I don't want to have sex with you
16:28In an elementary school
16:29Perking lot
16:29I'm trying to have sex anymore
16:30Dude
16:30You do this
16:31You ruin these moments
16:32You like
16:33Make it so
16:34Whatever
16:35You wreck things
16:36It's whatever
16:37It's stupid
16:37Okay
16:38Can you just unlock the door
16:38Please
16:40Thank you
16:47What is that?
16:48What is this?
16:49What does it look like?
16:51Yeah
16:52Morgan
16:52I wanted to do a nice thing
16:54For the woman that I love
16:55More than like
16:55My beating heart in my chest
16:57Are you proposing to me
16:58By throwing a ring at my back?
16:59What am I supposed to do with this?
17:00I don't know
17:00That's up to you
17:03Please welcome
17:04Taylor and Jack
17:06Let's go get
17:06And Jack in and in
17:29Oh my gosh
17:32You guys
17:33Congrats
17:33It's so
17:34People are going to
17:35Freak out over the show
17:37It's so funny
17:38That scene in particular
17:39Was that the first one
17:40Y'all shot?
17:41Of the series
17:42Of the entire show
17:44He throws
17:45A wedding ring at you
17:47And that's the proposal
17:49That's the choice
17:50Yeah
17:50That's great
17:51Definitely a choice
17:52That's a choice
17:53How it was handled
17:55The whole thing
17:55It was incredibly funny
17:58How was the chemistry
17:59Was it right off the bat
18:00And like the reads
18:00And everything
18:01That can be awkward
18:02That was
18:02That was the
18:04What we audition
18:04What I auditioned to
18:05Yes
18:06With Taylor in New York
18:07And it was fun
18:09Because I just got to go in
18:09And be kind of
18:10A whiny man child
18:12And it worked out
18:13Having gone to a lot of therapy
18:15It sounds
18:15Every time he says something
18:16I'm like
18:17Oh my god
18:17It's from a session
18:18He's very over coddled
18:19Yes
18:20I love that about him
18:22So wait
18:22I heard that right after Dan
18:24You got this role
18:25Would you break your arm
18:26Or something?
18:26I fractured my elbow
18:27Yeah
18:28I um
18:29Don't you have to
18:30With a fracture
18:30You have to be in it
18:31For a minute
18:31You have to be in like
18:32A hard splint
18:33That's yes
18:34Amazing
18:36That's me at urgent care
18:37I did have partial glam
18:40Because I was doing
18:41A television
18:41Look at your like
18:42So I do look fabulous
18:44It was kind of good
18:45Um
18:45Yeah
18:46Dan called me
18:47I was
18:48I was filming something
18:49And I was walking
18:51From
18:51I mean a block
18:52A block home in LA
18:53And those sidewalks
18:54I tripped
18:55Went flying in the air
18:57Landed on my arm
18:59Had to go to urgent care
19:00And then flew out
19:01The next day
19:02Sorry
19:02I called to tell you
19:04You got the job
19:04Yeah
19:05And how many minutes later?
19:07Um
19:08I mean probably like an hour
19:09Oh
19:10I like when
19:11That's not a sign then
19:12I like when
19:12Cause at first
19:14I was gonna be like
19:15That's a
19:15Not a great sign
19:16I thought you were gonna fire me
19:18I thought everyone was gonna fire me
19:19I thought they were gonna be like
19:20She's a liability
19:20We can't ensure
19:21Why?
19:21Cause her bones are so brittle?
19:24No because if you show up though
19:25Like you have to work wardrobe
19:26Around that right?
19:27Yeah
19:28Cause you were doing the four seasons
19:29I did four seasons
19:30And I had a hard splint
19:31So in a lot of the scenes
19:32Thank God
19:33We were shooting like winter
19:34I'm in a big sweater
19:35But one arm is down
19:36And one arm is gently
19:37Sort of bent
19:38The whole other side
19:39I'm like welcome to your party
19:43But
19:43Oh my God
19:44I know
19:45That's not a bad omen
19:46It's hilarious
19:46And it's awesome
19:47No an hour's fine
19:48Yes
19:48I think if it happens
19:49Within the hour
19:49It's a bad sign
19:50I mean if that's the rubric
19:51I don't know but
19:52It worked out for you babe
19:53I haven't broken
19:54I've seen you a lot of times since
19:55And I haven't broken anything
19:56That's right
19:56Oh my God
19:57Okay
19:58I was like wait
19:59Wait this is
20:00Here you go
20:00Thank you
20:00So I heard
20:01This is random
20:02But you know
20:03You're always on set
20:03And there's so much down time
20:05I heard there was like
20:06A boggle thing going on
20:07Like a serious competitive
20:09Incredibly serious
20:10An official thing
20:11I would say
20:11Boggle is the one game
20:13I have never played
20:14I think
20:14Like at a game night
20:16I don't think I've ever played Boggle
20:18It's not like a cool guy game
20:20Whoa
20:21I mean I play Scrabble
20:23I don't think that's winning
20:24Any rock and roll points either
20:25That's a cool guy game
20:27That's a cool guy game
20:27Uh yeah
20:28We at one point
20:29Our
20:30Some crew members
20:31Made like custom
20:32Big mistakes
20:33Boggle
20:34Like score cards
20:35To keep track of your score
20:37Oh it became a
20:38Full
20:39Competition
20:39Well it was the hair department
20:41And then they won
20:42So
20:42That's right
20:43Let's do a game
20:44We're excellent at
20:45Yeah
20:45They knew exactly what they were doing
20:47Yeah they brought it up
20:47Like they didn't know
20:48That they were great
20:49And like hey let's just play this game
20:50Just sharking everyone
20:51We should probably bet on it
20:52You know
20:53It also showed people's true colors
20:55I think
20:55You gotta see like real competitive edge
20:58Yeah
20:58Like Lori was like
21:00Yeah
21:00Lori like would abstain from playing
21:02And she would like sandbag
21:04Like see if there were weak people playing
21:05That she'd hop in
21:06Nice
21:07I do like that we're bringing this up
21:09Because Lori's not here
21:10So we can talk about her
21:11Yeah
21:11Yes
21:11Yes
21:11Yes
21:12But Lori would really kind of like
21:14Walk around the periphery
21:15Like periphery of the game
21:17Yes
21:17Sess it out
21:18And we'd be like
21:18Lori do you want to play
21:19And she'd be like
21:20No I'm good
21:21She would treat it like a casino
21:23Like a crap table
21:24Waiting for it to get hot
21:24When there was like
21:25Only a few people playing
21:26Then she'd sit down
21:27Yeah yeah yeah
21:28She knew when she'd have a chance
21:29It's clever
21:30Yeah
21:30She's just more clever
21:31Is what I heard
21:32That's right
21:32She's very clever
21:33Watch out for her
21:35Yeah
21:35Alright y'all
21:35We need another break
21:36Check out Big Mistakes
21:37Now on Netflix
21:38We've got producer Will Packer
21:40Here next
21:40We'll be right back
21:51Welcome back y'all
21:53Our next guest is one of the most prolific
21:55Successful producers in Hollywood
21:56His movies include
21:57Straight Outta Compton
21:58Think Like A Man
22:00And Girl's Trip
22:01Have grossed over a billion dollars worldwide
22:03So he's doing alright
22:04He's also New York Times bestselling author
22:06With his book
22:07Who Better Than You?
22:08The Art of Healthy Arrogance
22:09And Dreaming Big
22:10Which you can find
22:11Wherever books are sold
22:11His latest film is called
22:13You, Me, and Tuscany
22:14And it's in theaters now
22:15It's all in the dirt
22:20So
22:22You're feeling for
22:24Temperature
22:26Moisture
22:26How it smells
22:29How it feels in your hand
22:32How it runs through your fingers
22:35Feel that?
22:38Yeah
22:40Please welcome Will Packer y'all
23:01I love your hacky socks too
23:04What's up girl?
23:05Hey congratulations on all the success
23:07Oh thank you so much
23:08Why is your audience so sexy?
23:10Look at these people
23:11I mean they look good
23:12They're ready for a good time
23:14I like it
23:14We literally just had
23:15Rikajan and Hallie here
23:16Yes you had my cast on
23:18Yes
23:18How'd they do?
23:19Did they embarrass me?
23:19What'd they do?
23:20They are so cute
23:21Tell me
23:21They're great
23:22Yeah
23:22They're funny
23:23They're chemistry on the couch
23:24As a producer you always hope
23:25They have real chemistry
23:26They do
23:26Let me tell you something
23:27This movie is so much fun
23:28Yeah
23:29Part of it is because
23:30They get along so well
23:32Yeah
23:32But there's real chemistry
23:33So you know
23:34When you watch a movie
23:35Well you can tell when it's fake
23:36You guys know right?
23:37Yeah
23:37You can tell when it's not really real
23:39Yeah
23:39At the first table read
23:41They were looking at each other
23:42Across the table
23:43As we're like reading the lines
23:44And they're like looking
23:45And trying to figure out
23:46How they're gonna like
23:47Work with each other
23:48And find the rhythms of the character
23:50And I was over there
23:51Hitting the director like
23:51Oh this is gonna be good
23:53Yeah
23:53They're already thinking about it
23:55They're so good
23:56And what a setup
23:57You're in Italy
23:58How long were you there?
23:59Tuscany
23:59All summer
24:00All summer
24:01So I mean you know
24:02What a burden your job is
24:03Here's the thing
24:04As a producer
24:05You gotta do the hard job
24:07Yeah
24:07And so I needed to
24:08Somebody had to
24:09Try all the vineyards out
24:10You know what I mean
24:11Yeah
24:11Had to check all the soil
24:13I tell you it was funny
24:14You think that you know your wife
24:15And my wife travels with me
24:17Right?
24:17I call
24:17I'm like
24:18That's my ride or die
24:18Right?
24:19Here's what's interesting
24:20About your wife
24:21That you learned
24:21We were there in Tuscany
24:23And I had to actually
24:24Fly back a couple times
24:25To New Jersey
24:25To check on some stuff
24:26She flies with me
24:27Wherever I go
24:28Cause we're empty nesters
24:29Our kids are out
24:30I fly she flies
24:31Yeah
24:31We went to Rome
24:32And then Tuscany
24:33I said okay baby
24:34We gotta go to New Jersey
24:34She said I'm good
24:35I'll be here
24:37I said wait a minute
24:39What do you mean?
24:40That is us
24:41We went
24:41We saw all the incredible landmarks
24:43I love Rome and Tuscany
24:45Cause it's so beautiful
24:46Yeah
24:46And those are very different cities
24:48Very different
24:48Cause Rome's a big city
24:49And it's like historical
24:50And then Tuscany
24:51Is just beautiful vineyards
24:53It's like a postcard
24:54Everywhere you look
24:54That's my wife by herself
24:56Because at the end of the movie
24:58I said honey
24:58It's time for us to go home
25:00We gotta leave
25:01She said define we
25:02Define
25:04Is there a mouse in your pocket
25:06She's hanging out there
25:06It's such a beautiful place
25:07I actually recently went
25:08This past year
25:09With my friends and family
25:10And I was like
25:10Did you have a good time?
25:11Yeah you just
25:12You know what
25:12There are certain places
25:13On the planet
25:14That I feel like
25:14Your shoulders relax
25:16And you actually like
25:17Are still
25:17Yes
25:18And I am not very
25:20I'm not a still person
25:21If you haven't noticed
25:22Yeah
25:22I'm always going
25:23So it's nice to find
25:25Those places
25:25It forces you
25:26You have to go
25:26That's why I made this movie
25:28I wanted to be
25:28An aspirational place
25:30Yeah
25:30That was exotic
25:31That people think about
25:33But haven't been
25:33When I tell you
25:35We show the food
25:35The wine
25:36The people
25:36The culture
25:37The nuances
25:37Like all of that
25:38I wanted this to feel
25:39Like a journey
25:40Like a destination
25:41And I wanted to feel fun
25:42This movie is so damn fun
25:44Yeah
25:44And you shot at the vineyard
25:46And the restaurant
25:46You shot there
25:47Like in the
25:48No AI
25:48You got to tell people
25:49These days
25:50Because I just saw
25:51It's gorgeous
25:52Brad Pitt fight
25:53Kevin Costner
25:54And I know it wasn't real
25:55Like this is
25:55I don't know what was
25:57But don't you
25:57Kind of want it to be real
25:58I'm like what's happening here
26:00This was real
26:01This was literally
26:03We flew around the world
26:04To go and showcase this
26:06And we shot
26:07With actual local Italian crews
26:10Incredible local Italian actors
26:13Yeah
26:13It was all about being
26:15In that location
26:15You got to have that texture
26:16And I think it matters too
26:18Because it's like
26:18I feel like
26:21There's a lot of
26:21Maybe there's more rom-coms
26:23Coming out
26:23In the streaming services
26:24But I don't feel like
26:25There's a lot in like
26:26The movie theater
26:26And that was like
26:26My first job
26:27And I love going to the movies
26:29Like I don't
26:29I have no dog in the hunt
26:30I make no money
26:31I spend it all
26:32But I love it
26:33I love the whole vibe
26:35Of taking my kids
26:36And going to the movie
26:36And sitting there
26:37And watching a big rom-com
26:38They don't really make those
26:39Anymore for the movies
26:40No they don't
26:41It is different
26:42And I love
26:43The romantic comedy genre
26:45It forces us
26:47To believe in love again
26:49I love that genre
26:50Because
26:51And some of us
26:51Need your help
26:54To find that love
26:56You know what I'm saying
26:57It's just like
26:57People are different chapters
26:58In their life
26:59And it's nice
26:59To go and watch something
27:01And be like
27:01That would be nice
27:02But it's also good
27:03To go see it on the big screen
27:04Yeah
27:04Because look
27:05The world is crazy
27:06Right now
27:06Okay
27:07It doesn't matter
27:08Like who you are
27:09Where you are
27:09What your beliefs are
27:10You go to a theater
27:12Put your phone down
27:13Okay
27:13The world was crazy
27:14All that crazy stuff
27:15Going on
27:16Your phone
27:16It's going to be there
27:16The news
27:17It's going to be crazy
27:18When you get out
27:18I'm sorry
27:19Okay
27:19Put your phone down
27:20For a second
27:21Go there
27:21There may be a stranger
27:22To your right
27:23Or your left
27:23But you're having
27:24A communal experience
27:25Where you're getting to laugh
27:27Yeah
27:27And fall in love
27:28With the concept
27:29Of falling in love
27:30It's very light
27:31Yeah
27:31It's fun
27:32It's escapist fare
27:33Yeah
27:34That's what this movie
27:35Was meant to be
27:35To escape
27:36And go see something
27:37On the big screen
27:38Because I used to love
27:39Going to see romantic comedies
27:40On the big screen
27:40Hollywood's not making
27:41A lot of them
27:42I said you know what
27:43When everybody's zigging
27:44I'ma zag
27:44Let's go
27:45And make a comedy
27:46For the big screen
27:47Because so many people
27:47Want it as well
27:48I hope so
27:49To get people into
27:50The theater
27:50We'll see
27:51Yeah
27:51Well congrats
27:52It's great
27:52Thank you
27:53I love the cast too
27:54Well done on that
27:55Yeah I appreciate it
27:56We have to stop
27:56For a couple commercials
27:57More with Will Packer
27:58After this
27:58Still
28:11All right
28:11We are back
28:12With producer
28:13Will Packer
28:13Everybody
28:15And here maybe
28:15It's called
28:16Dreamy and Tuscany
28:17It's in theaters now
28:18Did you always
28:19What is it
28:20Always the dream
28:21To be in Hollywood
28:21Doing this
28:22No it wasn't
28:23What was your dream
28:24When I was in college
28:25The dream was
28:25I knew I wanted
28:26To have my own business
28:27But I didn't know
28:27What I wanted to be
28:28And then when I was
28:30In college
28:31I was a sophomore
28:32And I met a guy
28:33And he said
28:33I want to be a movie director
28:34And I was like
28:35Well that's stupid
28:35Good luck to you
28:36But he needed help
28:38So I helped him
28:39To make his very first movie
28:41And I went out
28:41And I helped hire the actors
28:43And find the financing
28:44And then self distributed it
28:45And we shot it
28:47We borrowed $20,000
28:48And by the time
28:50We were done showing it
28:50It had made $100,000
28:51And my plan after
28:53I was in engineering school
28:54So actually
28:55I have an engineering degree
28:56I was going to get my MBA
28:58This movie
28:59Started off with
29:00$20,000 made $100,000
29:01That's 5X
29:01I was like
29:02Why am I going to business school
29:03This
29:04Wait a minute
29:04This is my business right
29:05What is this called
29:06This thing I just did
29:07They said
29:08It's called producing
29:08I said
29:09I'm a producer
29:10What did this thing do
29:11That I just crushed
29:12I had no idea
29:13I was helping out a buddy
29:14But I fell in love
29:15With the art of storytelling
29:17And that's why
29:18I continue to do it to this day
29:19And it's such a talent
29:20I know people like that
29:21That are good at networking
29:22And finding the right people
29:23To pull together
29:24To make a project
29:25That's what a producer does
29:26He's like a big project manager
29:28That's what I do
29:29Pull people together
29:30I'm not one of those people
29:31That sees the big picture
29:32I see just what I need
29:33But I mentioned Will's book
29:35It's Who Better Than You
29:36We mentioned that earlier
29:37In the book
29:38Will has a story
29:39Of going to Jamaica
29:40With his wife
29:41For the first time
29:42I need you to see
29:42What happened
29:43This is crazy
29:44It was very crazy
29:45I can't even believe you did it
29:45Listen
29:46Could have been very stupid
29:47It was that
29:48First of all
29:48It was very stupid
29:49Not could have been
29:49It was our first trip together
29:51You know you're trying
29:51To impress somebody
29:52Our first international trip
29:53We get to the counter
29:54We're checking in
29:55May we have your passport sir
29:57I pull out my passport
29:58Good thing about passports
29:59Kelly
29:59Is that they last for 10 years
30:00Bad thing about passports
30:02They last for 10 damn years
30:03You forget that you need
30:04To renew them
30:05She said do you have
30:06Another passport
30:07I said well
30:07I look like Idris Elba
30:08On my other picture
30:09Like what's wrong with this
30:10The lady did not laugh
30:11She said sir
30:12Your passport's expired
30:13I had to now figure out
30:15How to get to Jamaica
30:17With my new girlfriend
30:18Because I didn't want her
30:19To go without me
30:20She would end up
30:21Smoking weed on the beach
30:22With a Rasta
30:23You know what I'm saying
30:23Like what
30:25So I knew people
30:27That worked at the airport
30:28At that time
30:28In Atlanta
30:29And they gave me a pass
30:30That you can use
30:31To pick up an unaccompanied minor
30:32Like if you got a kid
30:33Traveling alone
30:33So I used that
30:34To get to the gate
30:35Got to the gate
30:36Waited until there was
30:37Like a big crush of people
30:38To get on
30:38And I had that one mad attendant
30:40Who was like
30:41Everybody have your passports
30:42Now have your boarding passes
30:43I didn't have either
30:44And I waited
30:45Until she was good and mad
30:46And I said oh my gosh
30:46I'm so sorry
30:47I dropped my boarding pass
30:49She said well I gotta pinch another
30:50Give me your passport
30:50It was such a rush
30:51She looks at it really quick
30:53I started talking
30:53I was like have you tried Cinnabon
30:55On gate three
30:56Because it's amazing
30:57She's like shut up
30:57Stop talking to me
30:58And stamped my passport
30:59I got on the plane
31:01It was incredible
31:02Didn't think about
31:04Once I got to Jamaica
31:05Yep
31:05Cause at first I was like
31:07If this doesn't work
31:08I'm going to an American jail
31:09I didn't realize
31:10I'm now risking going
31:11To a Jamaican jail
31:12That is
31:13That's worse people
31:14Yeah
31:15I got there
31:16I turned to my girlfriend
31:17There was a guy
31:18Who was checking us in
31:19In customs
31:20Who was like a young
31:21Attractive Jamaican guy
31:22Yeah
31:22Not my proudest moment
31:24Kelly
31:24I love what you did
31:25I turned to my girlfriend
31:25And I said
31:27You gotta do what you gotta do
31:29You gotta help me
31:30Here's why she's my wife
31:32To this day
31:32She looked at me
31:33And she goes
31:33I got you
31:35She goes up
31:36And starts flirting
31:37With the Jamaican customs agent
31:39She's there with him
31:41I'm standing next to her
31:41Like just the cousin
31:42Or the best friend
31:43Or whatever right
31:44He's talking to her
31:45She's like
31:45Where do I go
31:46To have the best drinks here
31:47Is it Margaritaville
31:49Or is it Rick's Cafe
31:50And he's like
31:51Well let me tell you my friend
31:52Now how long are you in the country
31:53How long do I need to be in the country
31:55Oh my god
31:55She is doing her thing
31:56She asked me
31:58At one point
31:58He was like
31:58Well who is this
31:59Is this your travel party
32:00And she goes
32:00This is my gay best friend
32:02And I'm on the side
32:03It's like
32:03You're doing a lot right now
32:05You're doing
32:06Too much
32:06Too much
32:07Kelly it works
32:08Stay up my passport
32:09I got into the country
32:10True story
32:11True story
32:12But you still have to get back
32:14I still have to get back
32:15But you still have to get back in
32:17This is such a bad idea
32:19I had a brand new assistant
32:20At that time
32:20She was like a week on the job
32:21I was like
32:22She's either going to
32:23Keep this job
32:23Or quit immediately
32:24I said
32:24You got to get me back
32:25Into the United States
32:26She said
32:27How the hell did you get
32:28Into Jamaica
32:28I said
32:29Not the point
32:30That's another story
32:31Right now
32:32I need you to figure out
32:32How to get me back
32:33Or I kind of like this girl
32:35I might just stay
32:35And open a fruit stand
32:36You know what I mean
32:38I got back in the country
32:39I had to go to the U.S. Embassy
32:40It took a week
32:41But I had the best trip ever
32:42And the point
32:43Is that sometimes
32:44You got to just live your life
32:45Sometimes you got to take
32:46The metaphorical trip
32:47Without the passport
32:48Of knowing how you're going to get back
32:49Because we got to get outside
32:50Of our comfort zone
32:51And that's what I did
32:52I took the risk
32:53It was the best trip
32:54I ever had
32:54Inter great rom-com
32:56Inter great rom-com
32:57Good segue
32:57You didn't mean to do it
32:59I see you Kel
32:59Alright we need a quick break
33:01I cannot believe you did all of that
33:03You can find Will's book
33:04Who Better Than You
33:05The Art of Healthy Arrogance
33:06And Dreaming Big
33:07Wherever books are sold
33:08And his latest movie
33:09You Meet in Tuscany
33:11Is in theaters now
33:11A performance from
33:13Code of the Friend
33:13Is next
33:14We'll be right back
33:28Welcome back y'all
33:29Our next guest is a Brooklyn native
33:31Who started playing music
33:32In the fourth grade
33:33Eventually learning
33:34Trumpet, guitar, keyboard, and bass
33:37Through high school
33:38He worked several jobs
33:39To afford building
33:40A whole music studio
33:41Today he is still
33:42All about doing it himself
33:43Producing his own music
33:45Releasing more than
33:45A dozen studio albums
33:47And starting his own label
33:48To date he has racked up
33:50Over a billion streams globally
33:52So he's doing alright
33:53Now from the blue note
33:55Performing his latest single
33:56Love Slave
33:57From his new album
33:58Local Art Dealer Volume 1
34:00Give it up for
34:01Code of the Friend
34:08And I'll give you a big boat
34:17So I can be your stowaway
34:18Cause baby it's a go gang
34:20So tell me what you want
34:22Tell me what you want
34:24Anything you want
34:25And I give you the sun
34:27And you can be enough
34:28And I ain't gotta run
34:29And we ain't gotta front
34:31And they can throw the stones
34:32And God can be the judge
34:34And we can make a home
34:35And fill it up with love
34:37Yeah
34:38Let's just pack a bag
34:39And get out of Dodge
34:40Focus on the simple things
34:42We ain't never had a lot
34:43Take a lot of time
34:44On the ground
34:45Pointing at the sky
34:46Know I'm always by your side
34:48Till we say your lies goodbye
34:49A lot of fish up in the sea
34:50So I went and catch a lot
34:52Baby when it's you and me
34:53And say we gon' catch a vibe
34:55Easy cause
34:56Nothing good is being yours
34:58Baby don't delete your floods
34:59I need it all
35:01That's that soul food
35:02If you didn't pull it
35:03From the ground
35:04It ain't produce
35:05You wouldn't be as perfect
35:06As you are without the old two
35:08Had to leave the city
35:09For the stars
35:09I want the whole view
35:10I just wanna hold you
35:12Someday
35:13Maybe when the drums fade
35:14We gon' be on runways
35:15You could be my Sunday
35:17And I could be your love slave
35:19You can tell me come stay
35:21Or we'll get out our own way
35:23Or you can tell me go away
35:24And I'll buy you a big boat
35:25So I can be your star way
35:27Cause baby it's a cold game
35:28So tell me what you want
35:31Tell me what you want
35:32Anything you want
35:34And I give you the sun
35:35And you can be enough
35:37And I ain't gotta run
35:38And we ain't got a friend
35:39And they can throw the stones
35:41And God can be the judge
35:42And we can make a home
35:44And fill it up with hope
35:46You're on me
35:48Anytime of day
35:49And I'll be on the way
35:50You can get whatever you want
35:53High and low
35:53Hold you close
35:54I just want your energy
35:55Choppy skies
35:56Robbie Rose
35:57You're not gonna ever need
35:58Findin' what my greatest is
36:00I'll give you the best of me
36:01What they think be less than me
36:03I'm just hoping someday
36:04Maybe when the drums fade
36:05We'll get out our own way
36:07You could be my Sunday
36:08And I could be your love slave
36:11You can tell me come stay
36:13And we'll get out our own way
36:14Or you can tell me go away
36:15And I'll buy you a big boat
36:17So I can be your star way
36:18Cause baby it's a boat game
36:20So tell me what you want
36:22Tell me what you want
36:24Tell me what you want
36:25Tell me what you want
36:35Mirror, mirror on the wall
36:36You show me all my flaws
36:38I'm too big, I'm too small
36:39Nothing's right, I'm too wrong
36:41And then a child appeared
36:42On the other side and said
36:43Talk to me nice
36:44He wasn't rude, just stubborn
36:46He wouldn't move
36:47He stood in front of my reflection
36:49As a kind of protection
36:50And he only had one message
36:51Talk to me nice
36:52And now I'm bobbing and weaving
36:54Thinking maybe he'll leave
36:56And I can go back to talking
36:57Smack to that loser in the back
36:58But before I could say a word
37:00He uttered back
37:01Talk to me nice
37:02And now he wouldn't let me leave
37:05He said even though you abandoned me
37:06I won't abandon you
37:07And I won't let you go into the world
37:09Unless you leave out here with the truth
37:12And so what you gonna do
37:14I won't let you berate me anymore
37:16And I won't let you say you hate me anymore
37:18And I will interrupt you at every turn
37:20Until the day you learn that I am everything
37:22I am everything you're looking for
37:24But you left me behind
37:25Wondering why you can't move forward
37:27So I'll let you leave on one condition
37:29That you also bring me
37:31And that you heal me
37:32And that you heal me
37:34And you free me
37:35And you love me
37:36And you talk to me nice
37:40Once more y'all
37:41Let's hear it for Coddy the Cray
37:43Check out his new album
37:44Local Art Dealer Volume 1
37:46Wherever you get your music
37:47And also if you're in Los Angeles
37:48Check him out at the Blue Note next week
37:50He'll be back on the road in July
37:52Go online for those cities and dates
37:54He'll be right back with a little mic now
38:03All right y'all
38:04Let's wrap up the hour
38:05With a fun story
38:06With on scrolling social media
38:07This is what I'm liking
38:11So it's pretty much always fun
38:13To see dogs doing human things
38:14It's one reason why the annual
38:16World Dog Surfing Championships
38:18In California are so popular
38:20Pups and people come from all over
38:22To take part
38:22Just look at these dogs in action
38:25Look and I've tried that
38:26It takes a lot of core
38:28This year's championships will take place
38:30In Pacifica, California on August 1st
38:32We have the founder of the event
38:33On the line right now
38:34Watching on NBC Bay Area
38:36Let's say hi to Andre y'all
38:37What's up Andre?
38:39Hi Kelly
38:41Hi
38:41So wait Andre in a way
38:43This started more than 20 years ago
38:44Right?
38:45How so?
38:45It started in the early 2000s
38:48When I wrote this book
38:49Called The Dog's Guide to Surfing
38:50And then I took the idea
38:52I took an idea for a dog surfing competition
38:54To the Lowe's Coronado in San Diego
38:56And said let's do a dog surfing competition
38:58And it was so popular
39:00That other people started doing them
39:02And then we eventually said
39:03Let's do a world championships in 2016
39:07That is adorable
39:09That's what I look frightened
39:11When I'm on my
39:12Wait, what are they judged on?
39:14They are judged on length of the wave
39:18Confidence on the board
39:19Style points
39:21You know, just a lot of fun things like that
39:23Plus the dogs are not on really big giant waves
39:25Unless they're surfing with a human
39:27Then they can do bigger waves
39:28Yeah
39:29Oh, that's incredible
39:30Oh my god
39:33Oh, these pictures are washing over me in real time
39:36I've never seen them
39:37Oh my god
39:38He's skiing and he's surfing
39:41Oh my god
39:42They're just so great
39:43They make me so happy
39:44What a beautiful thing
39:47And this dog here is extremely good
39:49As you can tell
39:49Look at that pose
39:50Look at that style
39:51Oh my god
39:51He's so intense
39:53He's like
39:53I'm taking all these bitches down
39:56Thank you so much Andre
39:58I'm liking your post right now
39:59That's not all though
40:00Our season long partner
40:00Pilot Pen
40:01Makers of Friction
40:02The go-to erasable pen
40:03Of the Kelly Clarkson show
40:04Want to help you
40:05Keep this event going every year
40:07So they're going to give you $1,000
40:08Just for entertaining us, man
40:09Oh, that's so fantastic
40:11Thank you, Andre
40:12Thank you, Andre
40:13This year's World Dog Surfing Championships
40:15Will take place August 1st
40:17In Pacifica, California
40:18So y'all should go check it out
40:19But for now
40:20Thank you so much
40:20To all of our guests
40:21This hour
40:21Dan Levy
40:22Taylor Ortega
40:24Jack Inman
40:25Will Packer
40:26Chloe to the friend
40:27And Hudson Westbrook
40:28Y'all have a great day
40:29And it is not turn-changing
40:30Go triangle
40:40Travis
40:42You
40:42You
40:42You
40:49You
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