24 Oras: (Part 2) House Justice Comm. members, ilang beses pinaalalahanan na iwasan ang mga mapang-usisang tanong kay Ramil Madriaga; Ibinibentang luxury vehicle na galing pala sa illegal; 3-month probation sa Roblox?; atbp

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Transcript

00:00Sinalakay ng mga otoridad ng ilang umano'y pugat ng sugalan sa Pangasinan.

00:04Kabilang sa mga naaresto, isang barangay chairman at isang dating konsikal.

00:09Nakatutok si John Konsulta. Exclusive!

00:14Pagdating ng konvoy ng NBI-NCR sa manawag Pangasinan,

00:19agad nilang pinasok ang target na bahay sa biso ng kanilang dalang search warrant.

00:29Tumambad sa reining team ang mga barya, perang papel at mga gambling parafernalya

00:34habang nasa kasagsagan ng illegal gambling operation ng grupo.

00:38Kasabay rin sinalakay ang umano'y gambling din sa mga bayan ng Rosales,

00:43Ordaneta at Calasiao at sa lungsod ng San Carlos.

00:47Ikinasama ngayon batay sa sumbong sa NBI ng Philippine Charities Physics Office o PCSO.

00:52Simultaneous yun para hindi masunog o ma-burnout yung trabaho.

00:57Eh, isakto. Nag-reviso sila ng mga papilitos, nag-aayos sila ng mga beta, mga taya.

01:05Dalawang linggong surveillance muna ang ikinasan ng NBI Special Task Group, NBI-NCR at NBI Homicide

01:11bago nag-apply ng warat para ma-aresto ang mga tinatawag na bookies sa likod ng illegal gambling.

01:17Ang nahuli natin, all in all, sa limang areas, umabot po ng 150 personalities.

01:23Nagpapataya rin sila sa mga bahay-bahay, sa mga tao, naglilibot sila.

01:27Using mga papilitos na hindi naman sanction ng PCSO, nag-misrepresent sila.

01:33Kabilang sa mga inaresto, ang isang kasulukuyang banagay chairman at isang dating municipal counselor.

01:38Ang legitimate po na operation ng gaming, every penny na pumapasok sa legitimate gaming operator,

01:47ay may prosyento po yan o may boys niya na pumapasok sa PCSO o sa gobyerno.

01:53Ito pong mga illegal na ito, wala pong ganun. So nalulugi po ng malaki ang gobyerno.

01:58Wala pang pahayag ang mga inaresto na in-inquest na sa reklamang paglabag ng PD-1602 o illegal gambling.

02:04Kakasuwan naman ang reklamang graph ang nahuling barangay chairman, John Consulta, nakatutok 24 oras.

02:13Naging maingat sa pagtatanong ang House Committee on Justice sa mga resource person na humarap sa pagdinig

02:20sa mga impeachment complaint laban kay Vice President Sara Duterte.

02:24Hindi kasi pwede ang mga mapangusisang tanong at tanging clarificatory questions lang ang pinayagan.

02:31Ang pagkwestiyon naman ni Rep. Paolo Marcoleta sa kredibilidad ng nagpakilalang bagman ni Duterte na si Ramil Madriaga

02:39pina-strike out sa records ng pagdinig.

02:43Nakatutok live si Ian News.

02:46Ian!

02:49Yes, Vicky, halos lahat nga ng mga mamabatas na miyembro ng House Justice Committee

02:53na nagtanong sa resource person gaya ni Ramil Madriaga ay pinaalalahanan ng kanilang chairperson

02:59na huwag magtanong ng mga probing question o nung mapangusisang tanong.

03:04Alinsunod ito sa iginigit ng komite na hindi trial ang kanilang ginagawa.

03:09All of the same? Do I hear a second?

03:12Let me be very clear.

03:14Ang ginagawa natin dito ay hindi trial.

03:21Ang tanong lang natin, may sapat bang batayan para umusad ang proseso?

03:29Sa Kamara, nagsisimula ang impeachment process.

03:34Sa atin ang unang galaw.

03:39Sa atin ang direksyon.

03:43At gaya ng sabi ng mga kabataan,

03:48hawak natin ang beat.

03:52Hawak natin ang beat.

03:57At sa kapangyarihan ito,

04:02pananagutan sa taong bayan

04:04ang dapat manaig.

04:06Yan ang paalala ni House Justice Committee Chairman Jerville Luistro

04:10sa kanyang mga kasamahan

04:12sa pagsisimula pala ng kanilang pagdinig.

04:15Kaya naman sa tuwing may nagtatanong ng probing

04:18o mapangusisang tanong sa mga resource person,

04:21hinaharang agad.

04:22At the time you notarized the document,

04:27did you observe any untoward?

04:30With all due respect, Honorable Dumogan,

04:32I believe that your question is already a probing question.

04:38Please be reminded to confine your questions

04:42to clarificatory only.

04:44Pwede may, nasaan po yung iPhone na yun?

04:47Honorable Choc, no?

04:50I lament that I have to prevent you

04:52from raising further questions along that line

04:55because that is probing already.

04:57I'm sorry but let us always be reminded

05:00that this is merely a clarificatory hearing.

05:03Thank you, Madam Chair.

05:05So ito ho ba?

05:06Ay pwede ho ba nating masabi?

05:08Naggalit kayo?

05:09Okay, baby, Sarah?

05:10Honorable Dilima,

05:11I think that's probing already.

05:13Sa mga clarificatory questions

05:16sa nagpakilalang bagman

05:17ni Vice President Sara Duterte

05:19na si Ramil Madriaga,

05:20may mga nilinaw naman

05:22sa mga sinabi niya

05:23sa kanyang supplemental affidavit,

05:25particular sa confidential funds

05:27na inahatid niya

05:28sa iba't-ibang individual.

05:30Sa pagkakaintindi ninyo,

05:33naubos na yung 125 million

05:36na OVP confidential funds

05:38sa loob lamang ng 24 hours.

05:40Opo, exactly po,

05:4118 hours po siguro.

05:43May time limit

05:44ang pagharap ni Madriaga

05:45sa House Committee

05:46na hanggang alas 4 ng hapon

05:49lamang pinayagan ang korte.

05:51Kaya pasado las 3 sa hapon,

05:53pinagbutohan na ng Justice Committee members

05:55ang pag-eexcused kay Madriaga

05:57dahil kailangan pa nitong bumalik

05:59sa kanyang kulungan

06:00sa BJMP facility

06:01sa Camp Bagong Diwa

06:03sa Taguig City.

06:04Bago siya umalis,

06:05pinirmahan at isinumitin niya

06:07sa komite

06:07ang waiver

06:08sa Bank Secrecy Law

06:10para mabusisi

06:11ang kanyang mga bank accounts.

06:13Nang makaalis si Madriaga,

06:15nagsagawa ng manifestation

06:16si Rep. Paolo Marcoleta

06:19para questionin

06:20ang kredibilidad ni Madriaga.

06:23The testimony is entirely uncorroborated

06:26and rests solely on the word

06:28of a detained criminal suspect.

06:30You are touching on

06:31the credibility again.

06:33But this is about the...

06:35This is about...

06:36It has been

06:36amply discussed,

06:38Honorable Marcoleta,

06:40that even suspects

06:41are presumed innocent,

06:45hindi pa po convicted

06:46si Ramil Madriaga,

06:48and he is entitled

06:49to that presumption.

07:01Ano lang po

07:02naayon sa mga miyembro dito?

07:04Paano po yung mga

07:05posisyon naman

07:06na nasa kabila?

07:08Pero pinaalalahanan niya

07:09si Marcoleta

07:10na maaari lang niya

07:11itong gawin

07:12sa trial proper mismo

07:14at hindi sa pagdinig na ito

07:15ng House Justice Committee.

07:17Kaya pina-strike out

07:19ang kanya mga komento

07:20mula sa records

07:21ng pagdinig.

07:22Madam Chair,

07:23I move to strike out

07:24from the records

07:24the remarks of

07:25Representative Marcoleta

07:26pertaining to

07:26There is a motion

07:27to strike out

07:28from the record

07:29pertaining to the

07:31statements pertaining

07:32to the credibility

07:33of the witness.

07:34Is there any second?

07:35Same as been seconded,

07:37any objection?

07:38Hearing none,

07:39the motion is approved.

07:40Please strike out

07:41from the record

07:41all statements

07:43of the Honorable Marcoleta

07:44pertaining to

07:45the credibility

07:46of resource person

07:47Ramil Madriaga.

07:49Baka po walang matira

07:50doon, Mama.

07:51Sana yung final lang

07:52kasi eh.

07:56Please understand

07:57that issues concerning

08:00credibility

08:00must be raised

08:04in the trial.

08:10Vicky,

08:11marami pa sanang

08:12tanong

08:12ang mga miyembro

08:13ng Komite kay Madriaga

08:14pero yun nga,

08:14kailangan na niyang umalis

08:15pero nabanggit naman

08:16sa hearing

08:17ni Deputy Speaker

08:18JJ Suarez

08:19na maaari pa rin

08:20naman nilang hilingin

08:21sa korte na may

08:22horisdiksyon

08:22kay Madriaga

08:23na payagan siyang

08:24muling makadalo

08:25sa hearing

08:25kung kinakailangan pa.

08:27Balik sa iyo, Vicky.

08:28Iyan,

08:29i-clarify mo nga

08:29para sa amin.

08:30Ano nga ba

08:31yung sinasabing

08:31clarificatory question

08:33at ano ang kaibahan

08:35nito sa probing

08:36questions

08:36na pinagbabawal

08:38kanina?

08:42Yes, Vicky,

08:42pag-clarificatory

08:43questions,

08:44yung mga nakasulat na

08:46doon sa affidavit

08:47ng isang individual

08:48halimbawa ni Madriaga

08:49doon ka lamang

08:50po pwedeng magtanong

08:51ano halimbawa

08:52may mga paragraph

08:52doon

08:53o mga sentences

08:54na hindi malinaw

08:55hindi mo alam

08:55kung ano yung tinutumbok

08:57ni Madriaga

08:58halimbawa

08:59e doon po pwede ka nga

09:00magkaroon ng

09:01clarificatory question

09:02kapag probing question

09:03naman

09:04ito yung mga tanong

09:05na wala na doon

09:07sa nilalaman

09:08ng kanyang affidavit

09:09kaya pinagbabawal

09:10ito ng Komite, Vicky.

09:11Eh Ian,

09:12bakit naman daw bawal

09:13yung mga probing

09:14questions sa

09:15pagbinig kanina?

09:19Yes, Vicky,

09:20kasi ang constitutional

09:21mandate ng House

09:22of Representatives,

09:23sila yung

09:24nagdedetermine

09:25ng probable cause

09:26pagating nga

09:27sa impeachment process

09:28kaya itong nga

09:29mga pagtatanong

09:30sa mga witness,

09:31yung pagkocross

09:32examine,

09:33pwede lang

09:33mangyari yan

09:34kapag umakyat na

09:35itong impeachment

09:36proceeding

09:37doon sa Senado

09:38kung saan

09:38makakaroon

09:39ng proper trial.

09:40Balik sa'yo, Vicky.

09:41Okay,

09:41maraming salamat

09:42sa'yo, Ian Cruz.

09:44Arestado,

09:45dalawang nagbebenta

09:46o mano online

09:47ng mga mamahaling

09:49sa sakyan

09:50sa bagsak

09:50presyong halaga.

09:52Ang problema,

09:53pagmamayari pala ito

09:55ng mga wante

09:56that sangkot

09:57sa iligal na pugo.

09:59Nakatutok si

09:59JP Soriano.

10:04Nang matapos

10:05ang bayaran,

10:06kumilos ang

10:06PNP Highway Patrol

10:07Group para

10:08arestuhin

10:08ang kanyang mga

10:09target

10:09sa isang

10:10entrapment

10:10operation.

10:23Ang mga seller

10:24na ito

10:25ng luxury

10:25vehicles

10:26nagbebenta

10:27ng mga

10:27sasakyang

10:27nakaalarma

10:28na

10:28sa Land

10:29Transportation

10:29Office

10:30dahil

10:31ang mga

10:31may-ari

10:32wanted

10:32at sangkot

10:33sa iligal

10:34na pogo

10:34operations.

10:54Ang pagbenta

10:55ng sasakyan

10:56binadaan

10:56sa pamamagitan

10:57ng social media

10:58at ang luxury

10:59vehicle

11:00binibenta

11:00sa bagsak

11:01presyong halaga

11:02pero nang makita

11:03ang ORCR

11:04nang ibinibentang

11:05sasakyan

11:05na pagalamang

11:07nakarehistro

11:07sa isang taong

11:08wanted

11:09sa kasong

11:09money laundering

11:10at may kinalaman

11:11sa iligal na

11:12pogo operations

11:13ang sasakyan.

11:14Kasi po,

11:15ito po,

11:15nahabol na po

11:16ng ating

11:16mga ayansya

11:17ng pamalaan

11:18dahil ito po

11:20magsisilbi

11:20po mga

11:20ebedensya

11:21sa kanila

11:22po mga

11:22kinakarap

11:22po ng asa.

11:23Initially,

11:24ito po,

11:25ito po,

11:26ito po,

11:34ito po,

11:34kapwa sinabi

11:35na hindi raw

11:36nila alam

11:36na alarma

11:37ang sasakyan

11:37pero inamin

11:38ang isa sa kanila

11:39nakakilala nila

11:40ang may-ari.

11:42Ito yung naging

11:43katuhalan niya

11:43dito sa Philippines

11:44so tinulungan ko

11:47lang i-assist

11:48yung transaksyon.

11:49Pero ang isa

11:50sa mga sospek

11:51na iyak

11:52ng depensahan

11:52ng sarili,

11:53inutusan lang daw

11:54siyang mag-drive

11:55ng kasamang

11:55lalaking

11:56na aresto.

12:13Nabisto ang bentahan

12:14ng mga naka-alarmang

12:15sasakyan

12:16na sangkot

12:16umano sa mga krimen

12:17dahil sa mas pinalakas

12:19na pag-monitor

12:20ng Cybercrime Unit

12:21ng HPG PNP.

12:23Pinag-iingat

12:24ng HPG

12:24ang publiko

12:25sa pagbili

12:26basta-basta

12:26na mga sasakyang

12:27ibinibenta online.

12:29Huwag daw masilaw

12:29sa mga mas burang

12:30bentahan nito.

12:32Kung ano man din pa

12:32yung mga cases

12:33na patungkol po dun

12:34sa kinaharap po

12:36or money laundering

12:37na kinaharap po

12:38noong ito pong

12:39ganito pong mga tao

12:41ay hindi po

12:42ang maaari

12:43maaharap po nilang kaso.

12:44JP Soriano

12:46Nakatuto

12:4624 oras.

12:48Hindi man natuloy

12:50ang ban

12:50pero gusto raw

12:51ng mga senador

12:52na ilagay muna

12:53sa 3-month probation

12:54ang online gamer

12:56roblox.

12:57May mga

12:57nabibiktima

12:58pa rin kasi

12:59sa impluensya

13:00ng naturang laro

13:00kabilang po

13:01ang dalawang

13:02estudyante

13:03na nasawi

13:03matapos pong

13:04magdalaan

13:05ang barila

13:06sa paaralan.

13:07Nakatutok si

13:08Mav Gonzales.

13:13Dahil umano sa paglalaro

13:14ng roblox

13:15kung kaya

13:16dinala

13:16ng isang

13:17grade 10

13:17student

13:18sa Marikina

13:18ang baril

13:19ng kanyang

13:19ama

13:19sa paaralan

13:20ng walang

13:21paalam.

13:22Ayon yun

13:22sa ulat

13:23ng PNP

13:23sa Senate

13:24Committee

13:24on Women

13:25and Children.

13:25He pointed

13:26the firearm

13:27to his

13:27classmate

13:28and himself

13:29while joking

13:30then

13:30par the

13:31sad

13:32firearm.

13:33So

13:33the victim

13:34later died

13:34at the hospital.

13:35When we

13:36checked the

13:37cell phones

13:38he was

13:40possibly

13:41influenced

13:41by this

13:43violent

13:44extremism.

13:45Sinasabing

13:46nag-room siya

13:47o na-impluensyahan

13:48para gawin ito.

13:49Pareho

13:50sa posibleng

13:50nangyari

13:51sa isang

13:51grade 12

13:52student

13:52sa Batangas

13:53na nagdala

13:54rin ng

13:54baril

13:54sa paaralan

13:55nitong

13:55Pebrero.

13:56He drew

13:56the gun

13:57then

13:57fired twice

13:58at the

13:59classroom

13:59floor

14:00then

14:00shot himself

14:01despite

14:02intervention

14:02attempts.

14:03So

14:04he later

14:04died

14:04in the

14:05hospital.

14:05Nakaundi

14:06tayo

14:06nang

14:07checking

14:08on his

14:09gadgets

14:09so

14:10andun din

14:10po yung

14:10tracing

14:12na

14:12he was

14:14possibly

14:16nag-room

14:17then

14:17to conduct

14:18this incident.

14:19Binanggit din

14:20ang nahadlangang

14:21planong

14:21mass shooting

14:22ng ilang bata

14:23sa Foundation Week

14:24ng kanilang

14:24paaralan sa Laguna

14:25na dahil

14:26umano sa

14:27impluensya

14:27ng mga

14:28nakilala

14:28sa Roblox.

14:29Nabisto

14:30ang plano

14:30sa kanilang

14:31chat

14:31sa Facebook

14:32Messenger

14:32kabilang

14:33ang pagsuot

14:34sana

14:34ng

14:34Nazi

14:35influenced

14:35shirts.

14:36Pinag-usapan

14:37din sa chat

14:37ang mga

14:38paniniwalang

14:38politikal

14:39ni Adolf

14:39Hitler

14:40satanismo

14:41at

14:41violent

14:42extremism

14:42at

14:43pag-idolo

14:44nila

14:44sa mga

14:44mass

14:44shooters

14:45sa

14:45Amerika

14:45at

14:46Australia.

14:47Ni-rescue

14:47sila

14:47noong

14:48January

14:4813.

14:49The messages

14:50referenced

14:51on past

14:52mass

14:52attacks

14:52and

14:53discussed

14:54using

14:54a power

14:55extinguisher

14:56for a

14:57blast

14:58blinding

14:58effect,

14:59i.e.

14:59this

14:59or the

15:00improvised

15:00explosive

15:01devices

15:01and

15:02molotov

15:03cocktails.

15:04So

15:05it also

15:05stated

15:06desire

15:06to carry

15:07out

15:07a

15:07school

15:08shooting

15:09locally

15:10and

15:10an intent

15:10to die

15:11by suicide.

15:12Ayon sa

15:13PNP,

15:1412-15

15:15taong

15:16gulang

15:16ang mga

15:16ni-rescue

15:17na karamihay

15:18mula sa

15:18private

15:19schools.

15:19Madaling

15:20mabiktima

15:21ang mga

15:21babad

15:21sa gadgets

15:22at hindi

15:23nababantayan

15:23ng mga

15:24magulang.

15:24Nagsisick

15:25sila

15:25ng

15:25belongingness

15:26telling

15:27them

15:27that

15:28I am

15:28here

15:28with

15:28you

15:29you

15:30have

15:30a

15:30friend

15:30with

15:31me

15:31so

15:31ang

15:32ginagawa

15:32ko

15:32ng

15:32groomer

15:34isasabihin

15:34niya

15:34sa'yo

15:35pwede

15:35mong

15:35sabihin

15:36sa'kin

15:36everything.

15:38Bukod

15:38sa

15:38bayulente

15:39ang

15:39mismong

15:40laro

15:40at

15:40maaaring

15:41may

15:41sexual

15:41materials

15:42may

15:42isa

15:43pang

15:43paraan

15:43ng

15:43pag-abuso.

15:45The

15:45second

15:45part

15:45of

15:46the

15:46abuse

15:46doon

15:47na

15:47yun

15:48grooming

15:49na

15:49yung

15:49grooming

15:50na

15:50nangyayari

15:50where

15:51tinatarget

15:51itong

15:51mga

15:51bata

15:52ito

15:53para

15:53ilipat

15:54sa

15:54ibang

15:54messaging

15:55platform

15:56doon

15:56naman

15:56ini-inductrinate

15:57tinuturoan

15:58paano

15:58mag-commit

15:59ng

15:59violence.

16:00Wala

16:00pang

16:00reaksyon

16:01ng

16:01Roblox

16:01sa

16:01mga

16:02namatay

16:02na

16:02bata

16:02dahil

16:03sa

16:03laro

16:03nila.

16:04Pero

16:04nakipagpulong

16:05na

16:05ang

16:05mga

16:06kinatawa

16:06nila

16:06sa

16:06gobyerno

16:07at

16:07hindi

16:08na

16:08itinuloy

16:08ang

16:09dapat

16:19kada

16:19age

16:19group.

16:20Walang

16:20chat

16:20mode

16:21sa

16:21mga

16:21edad

16:21lima

16:22hanggang

16:22walo.

16:23Mga

16:23kaedad

16:23lang

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