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In a testimony before the House Committee on Justice, Ramil Madriaga detailed how he allegedly delivered millions of pesos upon the instructions of Vice President Sara Duterte. Madriaga claimed that he had disposed of P125-M worth of confidential funds in less than 24 hours.
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00:00Sa kanyang pagharap sa impeachment proceedings laban kay Vice President Sara Duterte,
00:05sinabi niya ng nagpakilalang dating aide at umano'y bagman na si Ramil Madriaga
00:09na naibahagi lang sa loob ng 24 oras ang 125 million pesos na halaga ng confidential funds umano ng vice
00:17-presidente.
00:18Inutusan din daw siya ni dating Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte na maglipat umano noon ng milyon-milyon pisong halaga ng pera.
00:26Saksi, si Tina Panganiban Perez.
00:30Nakaditine sa Camp Bagong Diwa pero dinala sa kamera kanina si Ramil Madriaga
00:36ang nagpakilalang dating aide at umano'y bagman ni Vice President Sara Duterte.
00:42Sinabtina siya ng House Committee on Justice,
00:45kognize sa naging papel umano niya sa paggamit ng confidential funds
00:49ng Office of the Vice President at ng Department of Education sa ilalim ni Duterte.
00:55Pinabasa kay Madriaga ang kanyang supplemental affidavit kung saan nakalatag ang kanyang kaugnayan kay Duterte.
01:03Her denial of any appellation with me is absolutely false.
01:06She lied under oath in her perjury complaint against me.
01:10Kasama sa affidavit ang ilang patunay raw rito.
01:13Kabilang ang video ng pakikita raw nila noong Davao City Mayor pa lang si Duterte.
01:18Sino po yung sumigaw ng Sir Ram?
01:20Ayan o.
01:21Ayan, Sir Ram. Sino yun?
01:23Si Bipi Sarang.
01:24Sino po yung Sir Ram na tinatawag niya?
01:26Ako po yun.
01:27I wish to place on record that there is a voice which says,
01:31Sir Ram, the video shows the Vice President handing the flag to Ramil Madriaga.
01:38May screenshot din ang video conference nila kay Duterte nang mag-anunsyo itong hindi natatakbong presidente noong eleksyon 2022.
01:48I posted the screenshot of our video conference on my Facebook account with the caption just telling her,
01:55I cannot vote intelligently without her name on the ballot.
02:00A printout of the Facebook post dated September 29, 2021 is here to attach.
02:05May I know what's happening to you, Mr. Madriaga? You seem to be crying. You are nearly crying.
02:13Malungkot lang po.
02:15Idinitalya ni Madriaga ang pag-deliver niya ng mga pera sa iba't-ibang individual sa utos anya ni V.P.
02:22Duterte.
02:22In the morning of December 20, 2022, Sarah called me and she said,
02:27Sir Ram, please coordinate with Colonel Nolasco.
02:30Mayroon tayong deliver sa San Pablo, Laguna, sa Knight Street at sa Ombudsman.
02:35Four large dark bags were unloaded from the vehicles.
02:40Three large dark bags and one lighter, colored, and relatively smaller bag.
02:47Colonel Nolasco told me that each bag contained around 30 million pesos to 35 million pesos.
02:54Nabanggit din ni Madriaga si PRRD ang initials ng dating Pangulo na si President Rodrigo Roa Duterte.
03:02Previously and upon direct instruction sa PRRD,
03:07Sarah,
03:09I've also delivered money to Ombudsman Samuel Malt-Perez Rattoni Ryan which I usually place inside an open trunk of
03:16a designated car.
03:18Sabi ni Madriaga, confidential funds daw ang mga ito.
03:21A few years later, I read from several media reports that the 125 million pesos OBP confidential funds in 2022
03:32were reportedly utilized in just 11 days.
03:36This is wrong because I personally disposed the money in less than 24 hours.
03:43Ginamit din daw siya bilang dummies sa bank accounts para sa paglipat ng milyong-milyong pisong pera noong panunungkulan ni
03:50dating Pangulong Duterte.
03:52These were opened by people close to PRRD who informed me that money will be transferred to these accounts for
03:58intelligence operation and for laundering.
04:00Alam daw ito ng dating Pangulo at may mga pagkakataong inutusan pa siya nito.
04:05I distinctly remember that PRRD directed me on three separate occasions to pick up 100 million from a bank inside
04:13the mall in Lubawampanga which were all delivered to Palakanyan.
04:17May iba pang iniutos o mano sa kanya ang dating Pangulo.
04:20PRRD specifically instructed me to monitor, operate, and sabotage former Sen. Trillanes.
04:27However, PRRD was apprehensive in ordering the assassination of Sen. Trillanes because of the latter's support and contact in the
04:34armed forces of the Philippines.
04:36Humingi parawan dating Pangulo ng tulong kay Madriaga tungkol sa problema o mano ni Atty. Man Scarpio, ang asawa ng
04:44BICE, kaugnay ng Bureau of Customs o BOC.
04:48After two days, I went to the BOC to meet the female lawyer to discuss the release of construction equipment.
04:55This time, I learned that the construction equipment was actually magnetic lifters.
05:00The same were confiscated because it contained a large amount of shabu.
05:04However, the female lawyer informed me that it was difficult to release the same because it was a hot item.
05:10Later, I learned that the content of the magnetic lifters is at least 500 kilograms of shabu worth 4.3
05:19billion pesos.
05:20We're mysteriously missing.
05:22Inuitos din daw kay Madriaga ang pagbuo ng non-profit corporation para sa kandidatura ni Vice President Sara Duterte noong
05:312022.
05:32Ito ang ECEP o Initiative for Social Justice, Innovation and Progress, Pilipinas.
05:38Pero ang ibig sabihin umano para sa kanilang mga taga-suporta ay Inday Sara is my President.
05:45Isa sa mga nagbigay umano ng pondo para rito ang isang opisyal ng Farmally.
05:50Shortly after we organized ECEP, I was informed by PRRD that funding will be made available for the activities of
05:57ECEP through the contribution of his friends and supporters.
06:01One of those friends and supporters is Lin-Huei Zhong, who was the financial officer of Farmally Pharmaceuticals.
06:12Sometime in June or July 2021, PRRD informed me that someone will call me to directly coordinate the turnover of
06:19175 million.
06:21I also remember that Michael Yang, a very close friend of PRRD, who was frequently in Malaking Yang, also provided
06:29financial support to ECEP.
06:32Sabi ni Madriaga, matapos mananong bisi ni Duterte, kasama raw siya ng kausapin ng dating Pangulo,
06:39ang ilang retired general ng AFP para sa pagpapatalsik umano kay Pangulong Bongbong Marcos pagsapit ng 2025.
06:47The general objective was to ensure that PBBM will only serve less than four years of his term as president
06:54so that Sara, upon assumption to the presidency, will still be eligible for the presidency in 2028.
07:00In the event that BBM will not voluntarily step down or hand over the presidency to Sara,
07:07extraordinary measures of overthrowing BBM will be considered, which include assassination.
07:12Sa affidavit ni Madriaga, lumalabas na naputo lang kanilang relasyon ni VP Duterte
07:19nang hindi siya nito tulungan sa kasong land grabbing na inilapit kay Madriaga ng ilang magsasaka sa bataan.
07:27Pero may punto raw na binisita siya sa kulungan ng BSE.
07:31Sometime in October 2025, after I got arrested for alleged kidnapping,
07:36I was surprised to see Sara through the metal railings of the passageway.
07:41She smiled and waved at me.
07:43Jail warden sa Binyano handed me a phone.
07:47When I said hello, I recognized the voice of Sara and she asked me about my well-being
07:53and conditions inside the detention facility.
07:56She was also apologetic for failing to do something or assist in my ongoing criminal case.
08:02Sa isang punto sa pagdinik, tinanong si Madriaga kung may namilit o inialok sa kanya
08:10kapalit ng pagsusulat ng affidavit.
08:13Hindi ka po ba napilitan na gawin ang mas kung anong komento affidavit na iyong sinabmit?
08:19Hindi po akong napilitan, Madam Chair.
08:21Wala bang pangakong palayain ka sa kulungan kapalit ng pagtestigo na ginagawa mo ngayon?
08:28Hindi po akong may hinang anumang kapalit sa paggawa ko ng salaysay ko.
08:32Hanggang alas 5 ng hapon lang pinayagan ng korte ang pagharap ni Madriaga sa House Committee.
08:38Bago siya umalis, pinirmahan at isinumitin niya sa komite ang waiver sa Bank Secrecy Law
08:45para mabusisi ang kanyang bank accounts.
08:48Sinisikap ng GMA News na makuha ang panig ng mga binanggit ni Madriaga sa kanyang pagharap sa Kamara.
08:55Ako si Tina Panganiban Perez, ang inyong saksi.
08:59Iginit ng kampo ni Vice President Sara Duterte na wala uminong kaugnayan sa kaso
09:04ang mga ebidensyong iniharap sa Kamara ng nagpakilalang bagman na vice-presidente na si Ramil Madriaga.
09:10At sa investigasyon naman ng NBI, lumalabas na posibleng pitong tao lang ang sumulat o pumirma
09:17sa 36 na resibo ng confidential funds.
09:20Saksi si Rafi Tima.
09:25Sa pagharap ng mga taga National Bureau of Investigation sa House Committee on Justice,
09:31iprinisinta nila ang resulta ng kanilang mga pagsusuri sa mga acknowledgement receipt
09:35na ipinapakita kung kanino napunta ang Conferential Fund ng DepEd
09:39noong kalihim pa si Vice President Sara Duterte, pati sa Office of the Vice President.
09:44Kabilang sa mga inimbestigahan nila ang mga pattern at stroke ng mga pirma at sulat sa mga resibong ito.
09:49Gaya ni Nassale Rendon at Sheila Dado na pareho ang pirma pero magkaibang pangalan at sulat.
09:56Ang apat naman na individual na ito, magkakaibang pangalan pero magkakamukha rin ang pirma.
10:01Sabi ng NBI, halos pareho ang stroke ng mga pirma pati ang manner of execution ito.
10:07Sa resibo ni Ana Riza Zinio at Ken Naso, iisang tao lang daw ang nagsulat ng pecha ayon pa rin
10:13sa NBI.
10:15Yung patterns po of the letters and the figures dun sa handwritten dates reveal significant similarities din po.
10:26Indicating that they were written by one and the same person.
10:31Sabi ng NBI, posibleng pitong tao lang ang sumulat o pumirma sa 36 na resibo na sinuri ng mga forensic
10:38examiner nila.
10:40Based on the examination conducted, there were groups of acknowledgement receipts that were written by the same person.
10:51Pitong magkakakagrupo po na bawat grupo, isang tao lang ang sumulat.
10:58Aabot daw sa mahigit 4,000 ang mga resibo ng confidential funds noon ng visa pero 36 na resibo lang
11:04ang sinuri nila sa opisina ng commissioner audit.
11:07Ito lang daw ang pinili at binigay sa kanila noon ng kamera.
11:10It was technically randomly given for purposes of examination. Some of them were not submitted for examination because there's a
11:20duplication already.
11:22Kinwesyo noong nakarang taon ng mga mababata sa mga resibo ng confidential funds, kabilang na ang nakapangalan sa isang Mary
11:28Grace Piatos.
11:29Kanina, muling sinabi ng Philippine Statistics Authority o PSA na wala itong rekord ng kapanganakan, kamatayan o kasal.
11:37Magiging ang mga pangalang Kokoy Bilimin at Milka Sikuya.
11:41Nasa mahigit 2,000 pangalan ang pinaberipikan ng kamera sa PSA at mahigit isang liburito ang mga walang rekord ng
11:48kapanganakan, kamatayan o kasal.
11:50So ibig sabihin eh, it's almost next to impossible na makita ba yung mga taong yan kung non-existent o
11:58existent yan.
11:59Sir, as I've mentioned po, limited yung information because it's only the name.
12:04So I cannot say na 100% accurate yung negative results po.
12:12Pagkatapos namang tumistigo ni Remil Madriaga, nagsagawa ng manifestation si Rep. Paolo Marcoleta para questionin ang kredibilidad ni Madriaga.
12:21The testimony is entirely uncorroborated and rests solely on the word of a detained criminal suspect.
12:28You are touching on the credibility again.
12:32Ma'am, but this is about the...
12:33It has been amply discussed, Honorable Marcoleta, that even suspects are presumed innocent,
12:43hindi pa po convicted si Remil Madriaga, and he is entitled to that presumption.
12:50Ano lang po ang pwede kong sabihin, Ma'am?
12:52Anything that is about, that is contained in the affidavit.
12:56Ang gusto lang, ang gusto lang po mapakinggan dito, kung ano lang naayon sa mga miyembro dito.
13:02Paano po yung mga posisyon naman na nasa kabila?
13:06Pinaalala kay Marcoleta na maaari lang niya itong gawin sa mismong trial at hindi sa pagdinig ng kumite,
13:12kaya pina-strike out ang kanyang mga komento mula sa records ng pagdinig.
13:15Madam Chair, I move to strike out from the records the remarks of Representative Marcoleta pertain to the credibility of
13:20the witness.
13:20There is a motion to strike out from the record pertaining to the statements pertaining to the credibility of the
13:27witness.
13:27Is there any second?
13:29Same as been seconded, any objection?
13:31Hearing none, the motion is approved.
13:33Please strike out from the record all statements of the Honorable Marcoleta pertain to the credibility of resource person Ramil
13:41Madriaga.
13:41Baka po walang matira doon, Mama. Sana yung final lang kasi...
13:49Please understand, at least the Filipino people are watching kahit na pina-strike out nyo yung mga statements doon.
13:56Must be raised in the trial.
13:58Sa pahayag naman ng kampo ni Vice President Sara Duterte,
14:01sinabi nila na napatunayan lang ng mga naganap sa Kamara na weakest link si Madriaga sa impeachment case.
14:07Hindi rin ito nasagot ang mga ebidensyang iniharap ng BC sa reklamong perjury laban kay Madriaga na nagpapakitang siya isang
14:14fraud.
14:15Anila, wala o manong kaugnayan sa kaso ang mga ebidensyang iniharap ni Madriaga.
14:19Pero nilinaw niyang, puro daw ito reimbursement at walang kinalaman sa anumang anomalya.
14:25Kasama kasi sa mga aligasyon sa Sabalia Complaint na ilang opisyal ng DepEd ang nakatanggap ng pera,
14:30mula 15,000 pesos hanggang 50,000 pesos mula mismo sa BC Presidente.
14:35If I may just contextualize everything, Your Honor.
14:39Kasi there were several incidents na nire-reimbursed ako, although hindi siya yung monthly.
14:45That's why I had to really categorically say that these were reimbursements for personal expenses that I personally shelled out
14:53po.
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