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00:00Hello one and all!
00:02Welcome to another episode of Adventuring Party!
00:04I'm your humble GM, Brannan Lee Mulligan.
00:05With me as always are our Dusty Do-Gooders!
00:07Say hi, Dusty Do-Gooders!
00:09Hi, Dusty Do-Gooders!
00:10Nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh!
00:12Ugh!
00:13Wait, what if we...
00:14I didn't think you were gonna pick that one.
00:16I just picked yours.
00:17Last we left off!
00:19Maybe that's more of an episode.
00:21Maybe that's the episode.
00:23Never mind, so save it.
00:24Cut that.
00:25Cut that.
00:26Cut that.
00:27How we feeling about the history heap?
00:28You guys made it!
00:29You guys picked yours!
00:30It's soooo bad!
00:32It's soooo bad!
00:33Nerds!
00:34Fucking nerds!
00:35It's rancid.
00:36Teeth everywhere.
00:37Teeth, teeth.
00:38You know what it reminds me of?
00:39What's that?
00:40It's freaking rancid.
00:41San Francisco.
00:42In that...
00:43In that...
00:44In that...
00:45In that...
00:46It is a beautiful location.
00:47Give him a second.
00:48With awesome...
00:49Let me cook.
00:50It's a beautiful location.
00:51With like awesome California weather.
00:53Yeah.
00:54You're like coastal.
00:55You're so close to like beautiful things.
00:58Uh huh.
00:59And cool vibes.
01:00And bae.
01:01And then it's just rotten by the people who exist there.
01:03Right.
01:04It's been absolutely...
01:05Like tech weird guys.
01:06Weirdness.
01:07Yeah, it's like tech weird guys.
01:08Yeah.
01:09And people who've come in and changed.
01:10It's...
01:11People who would have been like hippies in the 60s, but then like their parents or grandparents died and then they have so much money now.
01:17Yeah.
01:18It's very interesting to me because the...
01:21I think putting awareness super high so that...
01:25And charm super low means everyone's always noticing you and what you're up to and then not predisposed to be soft about it.
01:35You know what I mean?
01:36The delivery of, on Freaky, clocking so sharply these facts.
01:43It's not that they're like cold.
01:46They process emotion and they process feeling.
01:49Yeah.
01:50But when they say it in such a flat way like that, it is scary.
01:54Yeah.
01:55Yeah.
01:56Totally.
01:57Yes.
01:58It's spooky.
01:59Yeah.
02:00Yeah.
02:01This is a funny deep cut about what I think about charm, which in this the most charmless of the Gladlands outposts.
02:09I think about this thing when I was a teenager and I was first starting to date and I was getting parental like feedback about early partners and stuff.
02:17And a lot of teenagers just say a thing about like...
02:20Let's slide.
02:22What did I say?
02:23Am I the history heap?
02:24Am I bad?
02:25No, no, no, no.
02:26Keep going.
02:27I don't think parental feedback of my partner.
02:29Yeah, we don't want that.
02:30In a way it sort of told...
02:31The story I told myself is your parents being like, you kissed weird.
02:35Yep.
02:36I mean like when you're dating people and your parents are like, I don't know about that one.
02:40You know like...
02:41Oh, and that of course makes normal sense.
02:42Parental feedback.
02:43Okay, yes.
02:44Got it.
02:45Sometimes I try to formalize and then it doesn't land.
02:47Yeah.
02:48You know, I'm like parental feedback about partners.
02:49You know, being like, I don't know about that one.
02:51There were a lot of...
02:52It was a very common thing in the like, zeitgeist of teen thing to be like, I don't know.
02:56There's the classic like, I don't play games or like, I wear my heart on my sleeve.
03:00I'm honest.
03:01I'm vulnerable.
03:02I don't play games.
03:03And my mom said something that I've remembered my entire life about playing games.
03:07And she went, for God's sake, even worms do a little dance.
03:10And she just meant like, games, putting a little mustard on it, doing a little extra is not bad.
03:18And I think about charm as being like, why do we have to do the small talk?
03:23And you're like, because if you don't, people hate it.
03:25Yeah.
03:26They don't fucking like it.
03:27They're scared of you.
03:28Just, they're scared of you.
03:29What?
03:30Like, all these, and I think the fun thing for the history heap is the idea of people really
03:35dedicated to truth, awareness, knowledge.
03:38This is lonely, challenging work that you have to work really hard at and you have to be very adept to do it.
03:48And doing it right, a nice person doing this badly is a big fucking problem.
03:55Which is like-
03:56Also, it's like hyper-competitive too, because even-
03:58Yeah.
03:59Void.
04:00Void, like losing that space is wild.
04:03I didn't know that people are competing for space in history heap.
04:07Yeah.
04:08Or being like, okay, you burned non-books.
04:11Like, in other words, you damage, we know there's writing on this side.
04:15Every piece of writing matters.
04:17You damaged this.
04:18That's a big problem.
04:19You know, we didn't get into like, did Void do that maybe without permission?
04:23Maybe they like pitched it and they got a no and they were like, I'm gonna take matters into my own hands and they burned some shit.
04:28I see.
04:29You know what I mean?
04:30Where it's, in other words, it's the same Justin Sheffield thing where they're like, okay, our whole thing is preserving knowledge and you burned some books.
04:36And it was like, it was an honest effort.
04:37I think I'm right.
04:38And of course, we from our world know that Void is right and Quinn came in and proved Void right.
04:45But it's an interesting thing.
04:46I love the history heap as a very determined and aware place that is not very joyful.
04:56Like, in terms of the sort of communal virtues, there is not a lot of harmony here and there is not a lot of joy here.
05:02There is a lot of wisdom and a lot of cooperation, but it is like, it is a mission forward place.
05:11And seeing Herbie deal with that, oh my God, poor Herbie.
05:13Yeah.
05:14Oh my God.
05:15That scene with Aunt Freaky and Parcel.
05:17Parcel.
05:18Come on.
05:19Silence is violent.
05:20Parcel.
05:21Okay.
05:22And then, and dab me up.
05:24There we go.
05:25Yeah, what is happening?
05:27It's tough in this place that's already sad to also remember in this party two of your friends are having kind of the worst time in the worst place.
05:37Yes.
05:38Totally.
05:39Well, the history heap has like extreme stuff to unpack for Herbie and extreme stuff to unpack for Hoogie.
05:45Right.
05:46Yeah.
05:47It's like why I couldn't watch Breaking Bad because I just kept remembering how sad everybody was and I had to be like turning it off.
05:54Everyone's having a bad time.
05:57Kinda.
05:58Parcel almost reminded me like a kid at a sleepover who's overhearing his buddy get chewed out by his parents where it's like,
06:04Yeah.
06:05I just don't have the status to do anything.
06:08Yeah.
06:09Yeah, yeah, yeah.
06:10It's so, to Poppy, it's like such, I don't know, it's like such a unforgivable betrayal.
06:24Yeah.
06:25Because of the collaborative aspect of Parcel communicating to me that information.
06:31Me listening to Parcel and changing my entire way of telling stories, seeing change through collaboration.
06:39Yes.
06:40And then having that happen, the opportunity to collaborate could have happened and Parcel chose not to.
06:48Yeah.
06:49For Poppy, it's an ultimate betrayal, but for Herbie, it was a survival tactic and Herbie respects that.
06:56Yeah.
06:57Yeah.
06:58Whoa.
06:59Whoa, whoa, whoa.
07:00It's dense.
07:01Dense.
07:02I hate a gray area.
07:03God.
07:04I hate a gray area.
07:05I hate one.
07:06It's almost like a gray area season.
07:07This is a season of gray area.
07:09Literally.
07:10Gray area season.
07:11Call us gray area season.
07:12Gray's anatomy.
07:13Gray's anatomy.
07:14Call us gray.
07:15I don't think I will, but I do like the joke.
07:18Will you please call us gray's anatomy?
07:20Please.
07:21Why aren't you?
07:22Please call us that.
07:23Please call us New York tit city.
07:24Us?
07:25It's New York titty.
07:27Sorry.
07:28No, no.
07:29New York tit city.
07:30New York tit city.
07:31It's next door.
07:32It's across the river.
07:33I'm sorry, did you say New York tit city?
07:34New York tit city.
07:35It's across the river from New York titty.
07:38Like Long Island.
07:39So the question I have for this.
07:41Things were rough in Rockglob.
07:44Things were rough in the history heap.
07:46But it feels like this one in the way that like as the season goes on the stakes raise.
07:51It feels like you guys are looking at way more of like a smooth cliff.
07:55In terms of like you guys got to Rockglob and you were like things fucked up in Rockglob.
07:58People having a hard time.
07:59But I bet we find our way through this.
08:02It feels like you guys are going to the history heap and you're like I don't see a way.
08:05Yeah.
08:06I don't see a way.
08:07That's how I was feeling.
08:08It always feels trickier too when like in Rockglob we didn't have personal stakes happening there.
08:15And to go from like no personal stakes amongst us in Rockglob.
08:18Not that there wasn't personal stakes but it's again like we were trying to help the town.
08:23Whereas here it's like not only do we need to help this area but we also like have some pretty serious things to deal with within ourselves.
08:30And it's that thing where you're taking care of other people before you take care of yourself.
08:35Yeah.
08:36That's how I feel like we operate.
08:37Look at all the fucking burnouts over here.
08:39Period.
08:40You are two thirds of the way.
08:44You're thrashed.
08:45Four?
08:46I got three.
08:47Oh you have an original D4 though.
08:48But I have three burnouts in the original D4 so I have two left.
08:51Yeah.
08:52Oof.
08:53So three dice of burnout.
08:55Upon burning out a D20 a character retires from being able to.
09:01At that level of burnout you can no longer.
09:04It's not a character death but it's basically a character can no longer.
09:08Right.
09:09Which is horrible.
09:10Yeah.
09:11For Huggy because you are the only one.
09:13You're the only one.
09:14Ah!
09:15No one can take your five.
09:16And also has been so often told that they're the only person that can do it that it's also the big thing that's pushing them to continue burning out I think.
09:24Absolutely.
09:25It's that idea of like what an honor it is that you have this skill no one else has.
09:28Whoa.
09:29It's a terrible turn.
09:30And Ashmaker Cremator burning out.
09:32Yeah.
09:33Fuck.
09:34It writes itself.
09:35Fuck.
09:36Fuck.
09:37Crazy man.
09:38They don't do that to them.
09:39Fuck.
09:40They weren't ready.
09:42They weren't ready.
09:43That's just crazy when you break it down.
09:45We have, I think we literally, this is, we just in terms of we were running out of card space on the cards filming it.
09:53But we have a warmth check at the top of the next episode from, that is owed from Connor here.
10:00Because I think you said you were gonna, like, so that's a very fascinating one.
10:05How high is your warmth?
10:06I'm sorry.
10:07D12.
10:08I've got eight.
10:09You got an eight.
10:10But we don't, is this the first warmth you've ever rolled?
10:12I maybe have, I, I, this is maybe the first impactful, you know what I mean?
10:17Like there's maybe been like a more like flippant one or whatever.
10:20Uh, do we have boo-boos?
10:22I just got one, I just got one tooth.
10:24I have three.
10:25One, three.
10:26Just one.
10:27Uh, not spending them on myself, I ended up with five.
10:30Ooh.
10:31One.
10:32Five.
10:33One is six.
10:35Zero.
10:36Seven.
10:37What do we have here?
10:38Three.
10:39Ten.
10:40Ten.
10:41I have to be a stickler but you said one, five, and one is six.
10:44Seven.
10:45Yeah.
10:46Sorry.
10:47Zero.
10:48Zero.
10:49One.
10:50One.
10:51Eight.
10:52Eleven.
10:53Eleven.
10:54Eleven.
10:55Okay.
10:56We're back.
10:57We're back.
10:58Okay.
10:59We're back.
11:00Lucky thirteen.
11:01Ooh what flavors?
11:02It's gonna be good.
11:03I mean do we go like, do we go to a place that does, do we get to pick the place?
11:06Do we get to pick the place?
11:07Of course we get to pick the place.
11:08Okay, so do we want to do a place that does like a standard really well?
11:12Ahhhh.
11:13Obviously with the gluten free option also.
11:15Right.
11:16Or do we want to go to that place that makes the biggest pizzas ever?
11:19Big Mottas and Pappas?
11:20Big Mottas and Pappas?
11:21Big Mottas and Pappas?
11:22Can Art fix the box?
11:25That way we can put it on top of here.
11:28A pizza that would fit this entire thing.
11:31Oh, Brendan, please, can we get a pizza
11:32that fits the entire table?
11:34We'll get it to succeed.
11:35We'll get it on top of a Mini Cooper.
11:38We'll be goo.
11:39Rick Perry, bring out the big...
11:41I would have smelt it.
11:45We'll cover the entire table with pizza.
11:47I'll see you tomorrow.
11:49Only for good.
11:51You can't take that back, Matt.
11:54You can't take that back, Matt.
11:59Every square inch, including the good goo.
12:02Write it down.
12:03Write it down.
12:04We had our...
12:06You can't take it back.
12:08Our producer, John Wolfe, just slagged me.
12:11Fuck my life.
12:12Table pizza.
12:14It's only like 500 bucks.
12:16It's only like 500 bucks.
12:17Table pizza.
12:19By the way, for our gifts from Rock Club,
12:22the amazing props by Amber Paget, Charles Weiss,
12:24and Jesse Aaron, Maritza Kishta,
12:26Ryan Berry, Ryder Dunagan,
12:28and game design by Hannah Rose,
12:30Branda Stoddard, Dan Dillon,
12:31and Maisie Vasilak,
12:32with narrative design by Maisie Vasilak.
12:34Feel them.
12:34What a joy.
12:36Ooh.
12:37This is like a reverse Build-A-Bear.
12:38You know how you're supposed to whisper to the heart
12:40and put it in.
12:41It's like trying to get to the heart from the ocean.
12:42It reminded me of that Simpsons episode.
12:46What do you...
12:47I mean, we'll see next week,
12:48but I'm so...
12:49Mr. Burns is better.
12:49We got the last chicken nugget.
12:50We got the treats.
12:51We got Callie vibes,
12:53which Claudine believed was the name
12:55of the woman on the postcard.
12:57But it's gotta be...
12:57His vibes.
12:58It's gotta be ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ran.
13:00Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ran.
13:03Got our teddy, our chainsaw,
13:05and our party hat.
13:05And my goo.
13:07And my jam.
13:08It's a bit, I thought.
13:09A-ba-ra-an-d-a-ra-an-d-a-ra-an.
13:13Now I read it up there.
13:14That's crazy.
13:15What was the...
13:16Absolutely nothing.
13:18No, sometimes your friends have your back
13:20and it's perfect.
13:20And it makes you laugh.
13:21Nothing.
13:22And that's all it is,
13:23and that's the end of it.
13:23Nothing.
13:24Nothing crying?
13:25Yeah, you're crying.
13:26No, I feel seen,
13:27and that makes me really happy.
13:28I love that.
13:29And it's good that when...
13:30It's really nice when people have your back.
13:31Of course.
13:32We had a little stuff in it,
13:34Blood Slug, this episode.
13:36We saw Dr. Knife.
13:42I feel like it's very funny,
13:43this episode that had some real sorrow to it
13:45was also where I just didn't have
13:48Aunt Freaky pronounce the word beach right.
13:51Really good.
13:51Beach.
13:52Beach.
13:52Beach.
13:53Beach.
13:53It sounded Jamaican, honestly.
13:54Beach lore.
13:55I will say my mom would say beach like bitch.
14:00Oh, really?
14:01No way.
14:01She's from Columbia,
14:02and she would say,
14:03well, let's go to the bitch.
14:04We were like, what the fuck?
14:05She's like, oh.
14:07Or, and she would also say beauty and the bitch.
14:09Oh.
14:09She would say beast bitch.
14:12Wow.
14:12Which, not wrong.
14:13Beauty and the bitch.
14:14Not wrong.
14:14Beauty and the bitch.
14:15He is.
14:15Not wrong.
14:16My mom says Gatorade.
14:19That's okay.
14:20Your mom what?
14:21So my mom says,
14:22she says Gatorade.
14:23Are you trying to level it?
14:25Wait, that's fine.
14:26Gatorade.
14:27My mom says shit fire.
14:29Shit fire?
14:31Yeah.
14:31What does that mean?
14:32Like spit fire pizza?
14:33Like, ah, god damn it.
14:34Shit fire.
14:34Ah, shit fire.
14:36That's great.
14:36I'm adding that.
14:37I don't know, man.
14:37I don't know.
14:38I don't know what angels say, man.
14:43The bitch.
14:44Wow.
14:46Beautiful.
14:47Beautiful.
14:50We, well, we figured,
14:52we got this amazing laser book working,
14:54and we saw a sweet void.
14:56We saw a memory of sweet Mooney.
14:59Yeah, that was lovely.
15:01The best.
15:02I love that flashback.
15:03Our sweet.
15:03Kyle Mooney.
15:04Kyle Mooney, yeah.
15:06Also, Freaky was not freaky sounding at all.
15:09Almost like something,
15:10some large loss was suffered.
15:13You laugh.
15:14It is really interesting and powerful
15:17when somebody's bad,
15:19and you introduce them as being bad,
15:21and then there's like a very clear justification
15:23for how that behavior comes to fruition,
15:26and it kind of like makes you feel bad
15:30for judging them or whatever.
15:33It's almost like that's the...
15:34In the flashback, was Aunt Freaky elongated
15:36in the same way?
15:38That was still part of her process.
15:39She's not as tall as she is now.
15:41Part of that elongation is for her
15:43to reach the highest book area.
15:45Those are all like surgical procedures she's got, right?
15:50So that's elective for her to get to the highest echelons
15:55of the history heap.
15:57It's a really interesting one
15:58because I feel like with Rock Club,
15:59a town that was suffering from a lack of love
16:02and warmth and trust and vulnerability,
16:04it's so beautiful about bringing that in,
16:06and when you reverse it,
16:07because charm is sort of the surface level of...
16:10I think even in talking about it,
16:11I was like,
16:12warmth is how you relate to people you're close to,
16:13and charm is how you relate to people
16:14that you're just broadly in community with.
16:17It's a very different journey to be like,
16:21hey, you have to let yourself feel,
16:22you have to get vulnerable.
16:23It's so wonderful.
16:24Being like, hey, you have to be a little nicer.
16:28Like, it's a very...
16:29I think there's something interesting in that,
16:32like, what that climb is about.
16:35It's a tough one.
16:37Yeah.
16:38Of like, you know, being like,
16:40when you said you fell down,
16:41she went, stupid.
16:42That's really harsh.
16:44She was right, it was stupid.
16:44Jarring, too.
16:45But the thing is, it's like, I fell down.
16:47Wasn't even a banana peel anywhere.
16:49There's a weird...
16:50If you are in touch...
16:51Like, I don't know if people have ever dealt with,
16:53like, people that shortcut around niceties,
16:57because some people have very different justifications for it,
17:00and there's lots of different kinds of people
17:01that have justifications for how,
17:04like, why they avoid being charming.
17:06One of the big ones I always feel like
17:07is people talking about the energy it takes
17:09to do the dance, to do the social dance,
17:12and I totally get it,
17:14but it is a really, it's a hard thing
17:16where you're like,
17:17oh, my initial thought on saying you fell down
17:19is I was like, that sounds, like, ill-advised.
17:21Like, that's why, you're a grown-up.
17:23You're like, you're like,
17:25have your feet underneath you.
17:26What made you, you just fell?
17:27And it's like, you have that little impulse or thought,
17:30and instead you go like,
17:31oh my God, are you okay?
17:33And it's just about getting to that other place
17:35of having that instinct to go with the softer approach,
17:39and why has everybody in the history heap
17:41elected to not prioritize that?
17:48And it's a funny thing.
17:50Can I ask a flavor question to the table?
17:52Ask a flavor question, yeah.
17:53You got to play the CD,
17:55and you got to pick what it was.
17:57I would love to know, just for funsies,
17:59if it was on your turn and your opportunity,
18:02what piece of media would have played
18:05when you put the CD in, if it was you?
18:09I have an answer.
18:10That's great.
18:11Made me think of, like, one of my first CDs,
18:15for some reason, I guess just because it's, like, old stuff,
18:18and it would be Everclear, so much for the afterthought.
18:24Yeah.
18:25So good.
18:26Is that the one with Father of Mine?
18:27Yeah.
18:28Yeah, dude.
18:30I don't know why this is,
18:32what it immediately made me think of,
18:33but the only songs,
18:36I am not, like, a huge music person,
18:38so I used to listen to a lot of, like, comedy albums,
18:42and one that was gifted to me,
18:46and it just ended up being in my car a lot,
18:48so I played it a lot,
18:49was the Dane Cook Vicious Cycle.
18:52Oh, boy.
18:53Yeah.
18:54I had a lot of comedy albums.
18:55I hear you.
18:56Just the BK drive-thru track.
18:58Just to be, like,
18:59and you get it to work.
18:59Why are there so many CDs?
19:01Yeah.
19:03The cashew off the dick.
19:05I love, yeah.
19:06We all, you guys, what?
19:09I don't know this,
19:10but you guys are really pulling those references.
19:11Would you come over and listen to Dane Cook's
19:13CD?
19:14Stand-up album with you?
19:15Yeah, of course.
19:15He's, like, such a physical comedian, too.
19:17I'm just trying to think of it.
19:18Jesus.
19:19You just hear the crowd roaring,
19:20and you're like,
19:21I guess you did another big DC thing.
19:23Vic, I really appreciate that vulnerability.
19:25Thank you for sharing.
19:26Cut that.
19:28That, cut that.
19:29That, cut that.
19:30What would you listen to, Jacob?
19:32Yeah.
19:35Some Tito Puente.
19:37Oh, work.
19:38Put it on, and as Tito comes on, baby,
19:40I love it.
19:40Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
19:41No, not this guy.
19:42I love it.
19:43I can tell you,
19:44I can tell you the one that I would hope for,
19:47the history,
19:47if I'm, like, in the world,
19:49getting to choose what would be the best for people,
19:50it's my desert island,
19:53is Inner Visions,
19:55Stevie Wonder.
19:56I would be like that.
19:57I'm like,
19:58if you're in the post-apocalypse,
19:59Stevie.
20:00A Stevie Wonder album
20:01is going to
20:03really save the day
20:05a lot of times.
20:07For this place?
20:08Yes.
20:08Definitely.
20:09Yes, truly.
20:10Well, that's the thing,
20:11is they're also low creativity.
20:12Yeah.
20:13So it's like,
20:13are we charmless because we're joyless?
20:15Are we joyless because we're charmless?
20:17And, like, you know,
20:18and maybe feeling like,
20:19but I will say this,
20:20a lot of the negativity
20:21you guys experienced in the history heap
20:22really was pointedly antfreaky.
20:25Void seems kind of nice.
20:26Oh, definitely.
20:27Like,
20:28parcel,
20:28parcel,
20:29up until this betrayal,
20:31you know,
20:31like,
20:32it's an interesting thing to think of
20:33what is the pressure coming from?
20:34Everyone's going to the Screamatorium.
20:36It's top down, for sure.
20:37Yes.
20:38It's such an example.
20:39No pun intended,
20:40looming figure
20:41within, like,
20:42the community
20:44that it absolutely makes sense.
20:45Emotionally, physically.
20:46There's a weird,
20:47there's a weird thing that happens
20:48almost by,
20:49that's like in Rotglob
20:50where the work is,
20:52there's a lot of kinds of work
20:53that have to happen
20:54and they're all essential
20:55and everybody's like,
20:56I don't know how to do
20:57what you can do,
20:58you don't know how to do
20:58what I can do,
20:59but man,
20:59we need huts,
21:00man,
21:00we need food,
21:01man,
21:01we need moths,
21:01man,
21:02we need a nurse,
21:03right?
21:03And in this one,
21:04there's an interesting thing
21:04with, like,
21:04the History Council
21:05where it's one of the only places
21:06in the Gladlands
21:07that we've seen
21:07this kind of hierarchy
21:08and maybe it's like,
21:10is that the best way
21:11for this to work?
21:12And like,
21:13why?
21:13But I think there's also
21:14something to be said
21:15about, like,
21:16skills that require
21:17so much study
21:20where you go like,
21:21we're either getting it right
21:23or we're getting it wrong
21:24and it's not,
21:25I see this in life sometimes
21:26where it's like,
21:27we're either getting it right
21:27or we're getting it wrong
21:28and therefore,
21:29it's not about being nice.
21:31Like,
21:32you're doing,
21:33like,
21:33I remember being a bartender
21:34and I would go home
21:34at the end of the night
21:35and it'd be like,
21:36I maybe poured
21:36some of those drinks
21:37worse or better than others
21:38but everyone got their drink
21:39and everyone seemed to like it.
21:41And then you get to,
21:42like,
21:42nailing why the ocean's burned
21:44and you're like,
21:46the stakes are
21:47a little higher here
21:49and I don't feel like
21:50I have a lot of gas
21:51to, like,
21:52be sugary sweet
21:55while I'm doing this.
21:56I think also a lot of it
21:57is, like,
21:57that self-imposed importance.
21:59Like,
22:00you even mentioned,
22:01like,
22:01these people think
22:02that they are
22:02the thread of civilization
22:05the last bit.
22:06If all information is gone,
22:08then society,
22:09as we know,
22:10it crumbles entirely,
22:11you know?
22:12So it is that
22:13there is an element
22:16of Hygi in,
22:19like,
22:19baked into the culture
22:20of History Heap
22:22of, like,
22:23I need to be in charge.
22:25Maintaining information,
22:26preserving information
22:27is the most important thing
22:28and if I fail,
22:29I fail the entire Gladland.
22:32Yes.
22:33Because that's the only thing
22:34that's holding on
22:35information is the only thing
22:37we have to learn,
22:38you know?
22:39So it makes sense.
22:40It's also such a chicken
22:41and an egg thing
22:42because you and I
22:43got to help decide
22:44literally what this
22:46looked like
22:46within the roles
22:47and knowing how we
22:48felt about this place
22:50that we were going back to
22:51also, like,
22:52literally us getting to,
22:54like,
22:54put those pieces in place
22:55to be like,
22:55yeah,
22:56that's, like,
22:56is what that place is.
22:57Also,
22:58what is your determination?
22:59What's your...
23:00Now it's four.
23:02Eight.
23:02Eight, okay.
23:03There's a funny thing
23:05with that, too,
23:05of, like,
23:06the...
23:06Because it's like,
23:08yes,
23:08you either...
23:09Either Hoogie successfully
23:10embalms a person's
23:12dearest loved one
23:13in the last moments
23:14they have
23:14or Hoogie fails
23:15to successfully
23:16embalm them.
23:17Stakes are high
23:18and it's not something
23:20that good intentions
23:20can let you do.
23:21No matter how well
23:22intentioned someone is,
23:23they're not going
23:24to be able to,
23:25with a song in their heart
23:26and a spring in their step,
23:28embalm someone.
23:29And on top of that,
23:31I think also,
23:31like,
23:32you're right,
23:32that, like,
23:33the head...
23:34There is absolutely
23:35a haughtiness
23:36that comes from
23:37the importance
23:37of the mission.
23:39And they're up
23:39on this mesa,
23:40out of the weather,
23:41away from any,
23:43like,
23:43having gotten this place
23:45to a place
23:45where it's away
23:46from the elements
23:46and now they're just here
23:47in the stars
23:47and the wind,
23:49you know,
23:49away from anything
23:50more tactile
23:51in that way.
23:52But even for the,
23:53like,
23:54the softest moment
23:54we saw
23:55in the History Heap,
23:56which was, like,
23:56that flashback
23:57with Mooney,
23:58the, like,
23:59love and joy
24:00that was in that moment
24:01still was rooted
24:02in this thing
24:03where it's, like,
24:04Mooney's first reaction
24:05to the thing working
24:06is,
24:07oh,
24:08every one
24:09of these
24:10discs
24:12has a
24:14voice
24:15of someone
24:16who will never
24:16have their voice
24:17get heard again
24:18unless we can figure
24:18out how to get them out.
24:20And it's just
24:20that heaviness
24:21that comes back
24:22with that.
24:22Yeah.
24:22is a,
24:25it's, like,
24:25how do you not
24:26kind of,
24:28if the stakes
24:29are this,
24:30it's, like,
24:30we saw the people
24:31like white-knuckled
24:32through big stakes
24:32in Rock Glob
24:33and the stakes
24:34are so different here
24:35but instead of
24:35white-knuckling
24:36through it,
24:37it's, like,
24:38the self-importance
24:39becomes the self-soothing
24:40of, like,
24:42oh, man,
24:42like,
24:43if it's important
24:43then it's okay
24:44that I feel
24:45this insane amount
24:46of pressure
24:46to do it right.
24:48I'm curious
24:48if Hoogie
24:49is, like,
24:51subconsciously
24:52burning out.
24:55Like,
24:55if you've had
24:56so much pressure
24:57piled on you
24:57it's been totally
24:58against your will
24:59and if,
25:00I mean,
25:00like,
25:01you can't,
25:01you can't trick.
25:03Yeah,
25:04totally.
25:06But, like,
25:07you're just,
25:07like,
25:08the stress
25:09is driving me
25:10to this thing
25:11that's immediate
25:12retirement.
25:13Like,
25:13I'm, like,
25:14it's almost just,
25:14like,
25:15too perfect
25:15to be, like,
25:16I think you're smarter
25:17and, like,
25:18you know what you need
25:19and you're kind of
25:19just, like,
25:20doing this crazy stuff.
25:21When you're trying
25:21to get someone else
25:22to break up with you
25:23because you don't
25:24want to do it.
25:24Yeah, yeah, yeah.
25:25I think it also,
25:26I don't know why
25:26I keep doing this thing.
25:28Yeah.
25:28I think, like,
25:28that and to me
25:29it feels like
25:30even just, like,
25:31just, like,
25:31a slight turn
25:32from that
25:33which it is
25:33just, like,
25:34I think
25:34that idea of, like,
25:37literally nobody
25:38can do this
25:39other than me
25:39and I think that
25:40it's in the same way
25:41that we've literally
25:42watched and pitched
25:43on being, like,
25:44hey,
25:44if you're the only person
25:45that can do this
25:45we can have other
25:46people do that
25:46and it's one of those
25:47things where it's, like,
25:48I know that logically
25:49but then, like,
25:50you come face to face
25:51with something as heavy
25:52as, like,
25:53life and death
25:54and also knowing
25:55that, like,
25:55the way that communities
25:56deal with death
25:58also, like,
25:59directly contributes
26:00to the happiness
26:01of an area.
26:02You know what I mean?
26:02Like, literally watching
26:04how specifically,
26:06like,
26:06this one person,
26:07my cousin's death
26:08has affected
26:08the entire area here.
26:12like,
26:12the stakes
26:13it feels like
26:14to at least
26:15I think this person
26:16could not be higher
26:17and there's, like,
26:18nobody,
26:19like,
26:19this feels like
26:20the type of job
26:20that somebody else
26:21has to step up
26:21and say,
26:22I want to do it too.
26:23You know what I mean?
26:24Like,
26:25it's such a heavy one
26:26that it feels like
26:27up until this point
26:27all the jobs
26:28that we've, like,
26:29suggested people do
26:29are kind of, like,
26:31a job in which
26:33society gives a thumb up to.
26:34Like,
26:34great job being a nurse,
26:35you're helping people.
26:36It's, like,
26:36it's tough
26:37but it's, like,
26:38there's, like,
26:39sort of a reward to it
26:41and this is rewardless
26:42because you're not
26:43dealing with a person
26:44who gets to go,
26:44thanks for helping me,
26:45I'm better now.
26:46It's sort of like
26:47Nobody's happy
26:48when their kid comes home
26:49and is like,
26:49I'm gonna be a...
26:50I'm gonna be a creamer.
26:52I'm gonna do creation.
26:53Yeah, an undertaker.
26:53Yeah, yeah, yeah.
26:54The,
26:55I love that
26:56and I think there's, like,
26:57a very beautiful part
26:59of that,
27:01of, like,
27:02how affected this place
27:03is by Mooney's absence.
27:05I do think
27:06they enjoy it too.
27:07Like,
27:07I think there is
27:08a part of it
27:08that, like,
27:09especially in a lot of contexts
27:10and especially this far out,
27:11like, feels, like, good.
27:13I think,
27:13well, I think that's
27:14the funny thing is
27:14someone goes, like,
27:15hey, we're about to ask
27:16too much of you.
27:19It won't be fun,
27:20but the cool, like,
27:22drug you're gonna get
27:23is that you'll get
27:23to feel important
27:24and then you get
27:25addicted to that
27:26and then suddenly
27:27someone says, like,
27:28hey, we don't need to,
27:29like, if we did figure out
27:30a way for you
27:30to not have to do this much,
27:31you'd be like,
27:32but what would happen
27:33to my importance juice?
27:35That, like...
27:36You're also really good at it,
27:37so I'm like,
27:38it's kind of like
27:39when you start doing
27:41the thing
27:41that you're really good
27:42at for work,
27:43there's gonna be a shift
27:44and you have to figure out
27:45how to, like,
27:46keep the spark alive
27:47for this thing, you know?
27:50Um, the...
27:51It's like King Princess
27:52in Nine Perfect Strangers.
27:54That's it, exactly.
27:55Uh, Uncle Puss
27:57and our big bad bug boy.
28:01Yeah.
28:02Oh my god.
28:03Making me think that...
28:05I'm like,
28:06is that Uncle Puss?
28:08Has that been Uncle Puss?
28:09Oh, that's what I...
28:10In that last moment...
28:11And we were just talking
28:12about flashbacks, too,
28:13and how we saw it
28:14Freaky B. Scary,
28:15but then in a flashback
28:16saw her lovely
28:18and then in the flashback
28:19that Tess had,
28:21like, had love
28:22for whoever
28:22that mystery guy was,
28:24but then to see
28:24a nasty, scary guy
28:25come around,
28:26you're like,
28:26are we having...
28:27Yeah.
28:28Is this a...
28:28Who knows?
28:29This is the person
28:30that Ash saw
28:30in her dreams.
28:31And this is who Ash saw,
28:32which is like,
28:33if Ash saw them
28:34through a test tube,
28:35like, would it Tess?
28:36They were running
28:37with the test tube
28:38or something?
28:39Or it could be,
28:39like, Tess 55.
28:42Maybe.
28:43Or Tube 55.
28:44Could be.
28:45Yeah, totally.
28:45Like, the ultimate...
28:47Test tubes.
28:49Test tubes.
28:50Yeah, all the...
28:51555.
28:52Like, the experiment
28:53that finally checked
28:54all the boxes.
28:55Oh my god,
28:56and it's that angry?
28:58Yikes.
28:58Yeah, whoa.
28:59Freaky, freaky.
29:00Freaky, freaky, freaky.
29:01Freaky, freaky.
29:01Well, I was gonna say
29:04for next episode,
29:05we have...
29:06There's still much to be done here
29:08in the History Heap.
29:09Do you guys have an inkling
29:10of where you'll head,
29:11like, the episode?
29:13Or if we...
29:14Or do you have anything
29:14of, like...
29:15Because we've heard
29:16there's this...
29:17Because also,
29:17I'm thinking about
29:18the History Heap
29:18as a place here,
29:19and you know
29:20there's this one other place,
29:21the Eternal Dark,
29:22where they're having
29:23so many parties
29:24that it's negatively impacting
29:25other people
29:26in the community.
29:28Matrix 3 style.
29:29Matrix 3 style.
29:30And then we also
29:32have this place
29:33that's, like,
29:33way outside
29:34that's on our radar
29:35now, too.
29:36With the books.
29:37Right?
29:37In Glider Town.
29:38What did you call it?
29:39Shiksper.
29:40A trove.
29:41Oh, the Downscrapers.
29:42A trove.
29:44And the Red Dust Plains.
29:45The Red Dust Plains.
29:46The Spear Shaker.
29:47The Spear Shaker.
29:49The Spear Shaker Co.
29:50Spear Shaker Co.
29:51Yeah.
29:52Real Chekhov's
29:53Downscraper.
29:54Chekhov's Downscraper.
29:56There it is.
29:57Coast Downscraper.
29:57Does us saying
29:59all of the places
29:59answer your question?
30:01We just listed them all.
30:02Well, I love it
30:03because in my head,
30:04in my head,
30:05I'm like,
30:06I don't know.
30:07Long hit land?
30:08Well, I also think
30:09we have two episodes
30:11left in this season
30:12and there's exciting
30:13stuff happening.
30:14The action is rising.
30:15This bug.
30:16Hoogie has finally
30:17revealed to someone
30:18what's going on.
30:18We have this burnout.
30:20Herbie wants to talk
30:21to the History Council
30:22tomorrow.
30:22But what I love about this
30:23is I think that
30:24in a season
30:25about caretaking,
30:27we will not end
30:29this season
30:30with all of your
30:32jobs finished.
30:33Right.
30:33And I think about
30:34this,
30:34one of my favorite
30:34things that David
30:35Graeber ever wrote
30:37when he talked about
30:37labor and the
30:38conception of labor
30:39that when we think
30:39about labor,
30:40we often think of
30:41like creating something
30:43like a steel mill.
30:45And the thing he said
30:46was you make a cup
30:47once and you wash
30:48it a thousand times.
30:49And that the labor
30:50of a cup is not
30:51making it,
30:51it's washing it.
30:52And that like
30:53caretaking is this
30:54labor that is really
30:56like about
30:56maintenance.
30:59And so the idea
31:00that I think
31:01as the action rises,
31:02something's going to
31:03happen with the
31:03History Council.
31:04Something's going to
31:04happen with Herbie
31:05and Hoogie
31:06and Connor rolls
31:08an eight on this
31:09warmth check
31:10and there's this bug
31:10and Quinn
31:11with all like
31:12Kokomo,
31:13this like walking
31:14into sort of like
31:15confront Aunt Freaky
31:16here.
31:16But I love that
31:18whatever happens
31:19in this season,
31:19I think that we will
31:20end on the caravan
31:22probably like
31:23rolling off
31:23into the sunset
31:24with a wonderful
31:24Gladlands to take
31:25care of
31:26and more to do.
31:28Give us a back nine.
31:29Give us a back nine.
31:31It's kind of like
31:31if you go to therapy
31:32and just a big
31:34old handful of pizza.
31:35Just a classic
31:35handful.
31:36I was promised
31:37an entire
31:38table filled
31:40every square inch
31:43of the table.
31:44I'm so sorry though,
31:45Oscar,
31:45I cut you off.
31:46No, no, no,
31:46I was just saying
31:47like that is,
31:48it's giving like,
31:49you know,
31:49people that go to
31:50therapy one time
31:51and they're like,
31:51I went to therapy
31:52one time,
31:53it wasn't for me,
31:54that's the end of that.
31:55It's like,
31:55no baby.
31:56Yeah.
31:56You got to keep going.
31:57Keep going.
31:58You know what I mean?
32:00You got to keep
32:00working at it.
32:01I love it.
32:02Well,
32:03to the Gladlands,
32:04we will return
32:05and we will return
32:05there next week.
32:06That's all for
32:06Adventuring Party.
32:07Thank you so much
32:07for watching.
32:08We'll see you next time.
32:09Okay.
32:09Gladlands.
32:11Okay.
32:11Okay.
32:12Chilly, chilly,
32:13chilly, chilly,
32:14chilly, chilly,
32:14chilly, chilly,
32:15chilly, chilly,
32:15okay.
32:16Okay.
32:17Yay.
32:18Okay.
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