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00:00I'm Maggie Malloy and I'm on a mission to help Irish house hunters discover the
00:05overlooked gems of affordable European property. We're on the hunt in Italy,
00:10Spain, Portugal and France for great bargains. You've definitely surprised us.
00:16Feels nicer in the sun for sure. Property experts in each country will help guide
00:20our search. Vanity and toilet you'll be like 3,000 euros. And our very own
00:26intrepid reporters Kevin McGahern and James Cavanagh will be getting to know the
00:31regions we visit. Can we give it a bit of welly? I suppose we could. Clubs are a great
00:36way to connect with people. They'll be giving our house hunters a head start on
00:40local complexities, customs and most importantly the crack.
00:45Chefe vivra. Now what you just said is I want to live. It's wonderful. I want to live here.
00:49From forever homes in Portuguese villages. Massive crack, not in a good way.
00:54To sun-drenched Spanish cities. We need to talk about this price. You could throw anything at me.
01:00I'll help find the best homes a modest budget can buy. It's a cracker of a house. It's massive inside.
01:06So grab your passport, pack your bags and join us on the hunt as we go in search of cheap
01:12European homes.
01:19This week myself and James are in Ostuni, the so-called white city of the Puglia region of southern Italy.
01:27Set along Italy's Adriatic coast, this region is known for its dramatic scenery, unique architecture and long hot summers.
01:36It's warmer and more rural than many parts of northern Italy with a distinct character and pace of life.
01:44So we're in Ostuni and you can really see why they call it the white city, can't you?
01:48It's gleaming.
01:49I think the thing about Puglia is that it's more rural, isn't it, than the north. It definitely has a
01:54different, more traditional feel.
01:57Do you go with the flow? The sun's shining.
01:59Yeah.
02:00And the value.
02:01You know, I would think this part would be more expensive because it's so coastal and it's so rural.
02:06I want to show the house hunters beyond the house. I want to show them the culture, how to integrate.
02:10So I think maybe if I introduce them to some couples who've done it before and maybe walk that path,
02:15I think that'd be useful.
02:16The things that face couples buying versus someone buying on their own is totally different. This is going to be
02:21fun.
02:21It is, but I think we should get to work.
02:23Yeah, maybe a little bit of work.
02:26Todd Posius and Niall Sherry have been together for over 20 years.
02:30Both work in the HSE and are starting to think about the next chapter of their lives and possibly even
02:37an early retirement.
02:38After years of travelling the world together, they're considering putting down roots abroad.
02:44I'd say probably together we've been to about 100 countries in the last 20 years or so.
02:49But I think on the final count, we're around 117 countries that we visited.
02:55Now, as I get older, it's like it'd be nice to live, to try to live somewhere else.
03:00And we've travelled to different parts of Italy and there's lots going on there.
03:04And you know, the people are great. The food is great there.
03:07We'd be interested in immersing ourselves a bit more in what's going on and the language and the people.
03:12And the variety what we feel Italy can offer.
03:15And again, it's cheaper to live there.
03:18Our maximum budget is $150,000. So that's ultimately all what we've got, including any renovation.
03:25And I would like to probably a two-bedroom apartment, maybe a house.
03:29Ideally close to people, so we don't want to be too isolated where we are.
03:33On our holidays now, we would do an awful lot of hiking and trekking and walking.
03:38And so we do like to get out. We're not afraid of a bit of renovation in the property.
03:43We're not afraid of getting our hands dirty.
03:45The bones and the structure of the building has to be that Italian.
03:51It has to be Italy. It's traditional. It's old.
03:55And it's probably been there well before us and will be there after us.
03:59I'd ideally like to have some kind of terrace. If that was really, that would be the ideal.
04:04Always a little bit of land around it or at the side, a little garden.
04:09It is a project. I mean, now it's a project. And it's not a month project.
04:14It's probably a good few-year project. And we're okay with that.
04:18Whatever Maggie can show us, we're happy to see it.
04:29Julia sits in the heel of Italy's boot. It's famous for its welcoming people, rich food culture,
04:36and the distinctive Trulli houses with their cone-shaped roofs.
04:40And while property prices in northern Italy and the major cities have soared,
04:46this part of the south remains far more affordable, particularly if you avoid the touristy coastal
04:53hotspots. Property here averages around €1,400 per square metre, meaning a modest two-bedroom home
05:01can often cost in the region of €120,000. Good news for Todd and Niall, whose all-in budget is
05:09€150,000.
05:11They're looking for a two-bedroom property with outdoor space, ideally within walking distance of a
05:18lively village or town. Value is really important to them, and they're happy to get their hands dirty
05:24with a renovation if it helps them achieve it. So with all that in mind, for this week's house hunt,
05:32we're staying off the coast and searching between the dazzling white city of Ostuni and the faded grandeur
05:39of Muro Luchese, a search area where their budget will stretch further than they expect.
05:45So Todd, Niall, welcome to Ostuni. It's a beautiful place, very nice around. Enjoy the square here.
05:51It's lovely, isn't it? Amazing, so historical and pretty, really cool.
05:55You're our first couple house hunting this season. That's cool. How do you think you're going to work
05:58as a team? I think we do work well together. We know what we like, and we do know what
06:04we do not
06:04like, which helps. It helps me anyway. Yeah. We know our budget is quite modest, so we do need your
06:11expertise. We need the help on the ground. Okay, well, I definitely am known for finding cheap
06:16houses, so you've come to the right place. There you go. That's good. Looking forward. Well, look,
06:21I'm going to go exploring, so I'll see you later. See you later. Our first house is just 10 minutes
06:26from here. Oh, great. So, will we hit the road? Let's go. Let's do the rest. See you.
06:33As promised, our first property is tucked away on quiet farmland, just five kilometres from the main
06:40piazza in Ostuni. This two-bedroom country villa is full of rustic southern Italian charm. It's surrounded
06:48by mature fruit trees and olive groves on over an acre of land and costs 105,000 euro. But the
06:57low price
06:58does come with a few quirks, such as the lack of an indoor toilet. So, while the setting is beautiful
07:05and the price is tempting, Todd and Niall will need to roll up their sleeves if they want to turn
07:11this
07:12rustic retreat into a comfortable modern home. Architect Elizabeth Francis, a Donegal native who's
07:19been working in Italy for over 20 years, is meeting us at the property. Her local knowledge will be
07:26invaluable for our search. Okay, boys. Welcome to your first cheap Italian home. Well, the setting is
07:33amazing. It's so rural, but so close to the town as well. I like the surrounding. I like the olive
07:37tree
07:38surrounds. It's a typical country feel. It is. And what do you think of the style of the house? Looking
07:44from outside, yeah, that's Italy. That's good. So, these would typically have been farm buildings,
07:50solid stone construction. The roof is also stone, so it's very good protection from the heat and also
07:56from water. I don't see anything that's structurally of concern. So, what about the windows and doors,
08:01Elizabeth? They definitely would need to be replaced. A bit prison-like now. They're not very
08:06aesthetically pleasing, are they? Are you ready for the notebook? Oh, we're ready for the famous
08:10notebook. There you have it. Oh, look at this. Well, it's a nice space, isn't it? It's very authentic.
08:19You wouldn't touch the floor, like the stone. No way. It's big enough. It's big enough for us anyway.
08:25What do you think about the ceiling? The ceiling is amazing. It's like a vaulted ceiling. You can feel the
08:30cool. You can feel the cool in here. It's cooler, which in the summertime, that would be pleasant
08:34to be inside in the evening. Yeah, absolutely. I look at the fireplace in the corner. It's really
08:38nice. That's authentic. That's authentic. There's no cooking in the room. No, I don't think. Two
08:43fridges hiding in the corner. I know. You have two for one, but you probably need to, some sort of
08:47appliances. Don't see any heating or air conditioning or anything, so that's something. Maybe we can ask.
08:53We can ask that. Yeah, yeah. But you probably wouldn't touch here. No, I wouldn't touch anything
08:58structurally in here or walls or anything. It's pretty cool. You have to watch your hair there.
09:04Okay, that's a big room. That's nearly an equally sized room. Again, super high ceilings.
09:08There's no wardrobe space at the moment. So that unit there in the corner, what do you think that is?
09:14Is it heating? Yeah, we'd have to ask that, I think, as well. I'm not sure how comfortable
09:18we'd be here in the wintertime. No, wintertime. How do we get heating into it to get us comfortable?
09:22What do you do to bring the comfort levels in the cooler months?
09:27So it's another bedroom. Slightly smaller than the others,
09:31I think. Is this a modern edition? A bit more modern, because they have a kind of a modern
09:35tile on the floor. Though it feels dry inside. There's no dampness on the walls. Yeah, yeah.
09:40Looks like our last room is still no toilet in sight. There is no toilet in sight. Interesting.
09:46Okay, let's have a look. Oh, kitchen. You have to walk out to come to the kitchen. That's the
09:52Italian living, I suppose. Outdoor living, maybe. It's okay again. It's okay in summer. Could
09:56be work and cooker. And another fridge. So we have three fridges so far. There's no toilet.
10:04Okay, I have the most amazing outside bathroom in this building here.
10:10Okay. I hope it's worth a trek all the way through the garden. Through the forest and the trees.
10:16In the pyjamas. When it comes to moving a bathroom, Elizabeth, from outside to closer to the house.
10:22In the context of the overall spend, I don't think it's a huge cost. Okay. You would have a demolition
10:27cost, and then rebuilding, and then obviously the plumbing. Would you need some sort of local planning
10:33permission? Yes, you would need a building permit. So you'd have to get a local professional to help
10:38you, and you'd have to look into what are the regulations? What volume do I have? Because they
10:43look at volume here rather than square footage. And the kitchen outside needs work for sure, I think.
10:49If you just link it in some way to the house, that would be, that would solve that problem.
10:53So we have over an acre of land. An acre's a lot now, yeah. It's a lot of space. And
10:57it's well matured garden.
10:58You can see around it. It's been here for quite some time. Talk to me about this list. I can
11:03see
11:03a couple of things. Some things. We saw some like air conditioning, maybe heating units on the walls.
11:09They do have air conditioning, and those machines do heat and cooling. But there's nothing in the
11:15main room that we saw. There's only in the two bedrooms, aren't they? Yeah. In these buildings in
11:19the summer, especially in the older part, you don't really need air conditioning that much because it
11:23stays so cool because the walls are so thick. And how do you think we'd heat it in the winter?
11:28Well, in the main room, there's a fireplace. Nice. And after running the fire for a few days,
11:33the walls absorb all the heat. So it stays quite warm, comfortable. It's on the market at the moment
11:39for 105. Okay. But I have been advised that it could be got for around 80. Okay. Interesting. Food for
11:48thought, isn't it?
11:48It's definitely food for thought. It's not bad for first goal, Maggie. No, I like that. Starting on a positive
11:53note.
11:55With its centuries-old way of life, southern Italy has a timeless charm that's hard to resist.
12:02It's exactly what has drawn Todd and Niall here. To get a real sense of what life is like,
12:08I'm meeting John Nolan, who moved from Kildare to Puglia with his partner, Dave. Thank you very much.
12:13I love the area. It's gorgeous. How long are you here? Two years.
12:16So it's a bit of a difference. Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot warmer. Yeah.
12:21So what made you come to Puglia? My sister was looking down south at euro houses. Euro houses,
12:28that's you pay a euro. You buy them for a euro. Okay. We said, I will come with you for
12:32a look. But as we
12:34looked into it, it turns out there's so many stipulations. Like, you have to have the work done
12:39within a certain period of time. Okay. Or else you could lose the money that you put into this
12:43euro house. Oh, really? Yeah. So we thought we'd leave my sister and her partner alone for a few
12:49days. And we came up here to Astuni. Came up for two nights and thought, oh my god, this is
12:54it. And
12:55what were some of your reasons for making that move? Mortgage kept going up, wages weren't. So we
13:00didn't really have a life. Yeah. Sold the house, sold everything we own, and decided to move over. So two
13:07years into it,
13:08are you still loving it? Absolutely. Yeah, every day. No regrets. Yeah, no regrets. Even the sunshine
13:13when you wake up in the morning. I'd say psychologically, it's just nicer seeing that.
13:17It does, and it's your spirits, and it, you know, gives you a nice feeling to walk out there and
13:21with the sun and your coffee. Yeah, the simple things.
13:28It's so pretty, but what's it like to live here? It's great. There's a great cafe culture here,
13:34and it's just a beautiful vibe. Even though it's quite pretty like a museum, it's, it's a working
13:39town, isn't it? Oh, very much so. People live here. It's all real. It's not Disney. Yeah. Even though
13:43it looks like it. You know? What are the people like? Really nice. They're actually very like the
13:47Irish. Ah. There's not a lot of materialism around, and people don't earn a lot of money here, to be
13:53honest. Ireland in the 80s is what me and my sister call it. It's very family orientated here, so at
14:00night time,
14:00you'll have kids running around. There's not a lot of crime. And do you have a lot of the language?
14:05I'm getting there. Okay, but you still find you can connect regardless? Always. Yeah,
14:09they'll make an effort, and we'll make an effort. You have no issue getting your steps in here.
14:14Absolutely not. You see 90-year-olds flying up and down the steps here. Buns of steel.
14:20Well, they live so long here, don't they? It's the steps and the diet. Absolutely. At least
14:24150, so I have another 20 years left. So that's the Adriatic over there. What a view. And a line
14:33of olive trees all the way. Oh my god. Was there anything you were kind of nervous about moving
14:37over here? You have to be realistic nowadays, and not everywhere is gay friendly. So southern
14:42Italy, very religious. We didn't know, are we going to be accepted? Are they going to be waiting at
14:46pitchforks at the end of our driveway? And they weren't? Not at all. Okay. No. And we have had
14:52absolutely no trouble at all. Yeah. Sounds like it's more traditional than conservative. Very
14:57traditional. They're very open-minded at the same time. So acceptance was no problem. Was there any
15:02logistical issues? There was. There's a lot of bureaucracy in Italy, and it's very hard to get
15:09your head around. I definitely recommend learning Italian. Not fluently, but learning enough to get by
15:14and get yourself a good agent. You really have to have a good agent behind you. Before we wrap up
15:21our first
15:21day in Puglia, John has brought his partner Dave along to meet Todd and Niall. The one thing you'll
15:27just have to learn to enjoy the process, because everything is piano piano. Tranquilo, just relax.
15:34There's a great expat community from all parts of the world. They're great friends. Meet up with them
15:39every now and again, but you do need to embrace the Italians themselves and get used to their
15:42community and their lifestyle. I know it's challenging. It can be challenging as any project,
15:48but it's nice to hear from you. You're so positive about it. Maggie, I think job well done. They're
15:53all getting on. Yeah. I think there's something about making that first connection with a human
15:58being in your new country that just makes everything else seem more attainable, doesn't it? And someone
16:03who's walked the path already. Who could at this? Yeah. We're like, we should set up a dating agency,
16:08maybe. Setting up people. James and I shouldn't get carried away just yet. I still have to find a
16:17house for the boys. Luckily, I have my cheapest one coming up. It's like a blank canvas in here. Not
16:22even sure what this room originally is or was or should be. And James learns about the tough realities
16:28of renovating in Italy on horseback. This week, myself and James are in Puglia in the heel of Italy.
16:38We're helping Todd Pussius and Niall Sherry find their dream Italian home on a modest budget of 150,000
16:46euro. They're looking for a two bed property with a terrace or outdoor space. And importantly,
16:53it has to feel authentic and Italian. So far, we've seen this rural retreat on the outskirts of
17:00Ostuni. It has a huge plot of land, but no indoor toilet. And it's on the market for 105,000
17:08euro.
17:09Look at the fireplace in the corner. It's really nice. That's authentic. That's authentic.
17:13For our next property, we're heading almost as far south as you can go in Puglia,
17:18to the beautiful Cilento town of Murolecese. Just off the main square sits this unique townhouse.
17:26It may only have one bedroom, but for a small house, it's built on quite a grand scale,
17:32with a gorgeous roof terrace. But the real surprise here is the price.
17:38This property is on the market for just 56,000 euro. First, architect Elizabeth Francis and I
17:46are meeting Todd and Niall on the main square, so they can experience the atmosphere of this
17:52beautiful location. Don't you feel like you're truly in southern Italy now? Well, you do today
17:57with the sun. I feel I'm blending in the colour scheme with my attire today. Looking around here,
18:03this is exactly the kind of style we were looking for on the house hunt, because it's just typically
18:07Italian. So there's an alleyway right behind you, and we are all going to head down there now,
18:12and look at your house. That's exciting. Let's go. Thank you. This is your house,
18:18and where the paint gets a bit cleaner down the alleyway is where your house stops. Very
18:22substantial looking, I think. It's authentic. It's a tall building. I know it's maybe a little bit
18:28needs attention, but that's just cosmetics. I don't see anything that's particularly of concern
18:33that it would be a bigger job than that. More maintenance than renovation. You know,
18:37we wouldn't touch a lot of that, the shutters and things we love. The stonework, it's just
18:42it's just authentic and beautiful. Maybe just cleaning a little bit of the graffiti with Jif.
18:47A little bit, yeah, I think so. No Sif now, Tom. No Sif now, yeah, yeah.
18:54Okay, so we are inside. Look at that ceiling. That was the first thing I saw when we came in
19:00the door,
19:00the height of that ceiling. This would be a very typical star vault. It's very elegant, and it's
19:07beautiful to look at, but it's also structural, because there's a stone roof above this,
19:11and it distributes the weight down. I love the floor. I love those tiles.
19:16So these floors would be from, let's say, the 1950s. Very typical, these sort of terrazzo tiles.
19:23It's like a blank canvas in here. I'm not even sure what this room originally is or was or should
19:27be,
19:28so it's perfect for what we're looking for. Okay, so why don't you two go and explore the rest of
19:32the
19:32house on your own? Myself and Elizabeth will meet you in a little while up on the terrace.
19:40Okay, that's definitely the kitchen of the house. Oh yeah, I think so.
19:43I like how it's kind of molded into one piece, the sink and the whole countertop.
19:48Yeah, it's very nicely done, nicely finished. I think over there there might be a little bathroom.
19:53It's like a bathroom sink and the toilet in there. A mud and bowl there. The space is a little
19:58bit
19:58maybe tight with the chairs, but instead of having chairs, maybe you have a bench.
20:06Okay, I think we have our bedroom, Todd. It's a good size room. Yeah, looks like the only bedroom.
20:11That's the first point I'd make. I think so. I know there's no wardrobe there at the moment,
20:15but where the bed is, it kind of gives you the feel. You can have a smaller unit in there.
20:20There's good light coming from the window. It's a really nice room. That looks like a shower room in
20:24the corner. Yeah. So we have no toilet here. No, I don't think so. So it's only one toilet,
20:30which is downstairs. And I'm not a big fan of the toilet next to the kitchen. No.
20:37Hey. Hey, hey. So what do you think of your terrace? Amazing, isn't it? It's a good size
20:42space around it. Yeah. And you can see all the streets leading each direction and the old buildings.
20:49And you have a second terrace potentially up here as well, if you wanted it. So you have quite a
20:54lot of
20:54outside space. Do you believe we would be able to convert it into a conventional terrace? Yeah,
21:00put some sort of flooring, paving. It's strong enough structurally. And keep maybe this as a
21:04pergola or something to get this a shaded area. Maybe keep that in the sun. It might be nice. Yeah,
21:08it'd be cool. So what do you think of the rest of the house? A blank canvas to work with,
21:12which is good. The only downside to the bedroom is that there's only a shower room, which is a bit
21:17of a negative for us. How easy would it be maybe to flip and install a downstairs shower and have
21:23the
21:23toilet upstairs instead? So not easy. I wouldn't say it's easy, but it's definitely possible. There's
21:29just about, I'd say just about enough space for a toilet in the shower space, get permission for it.
21:36And downstairs, I would keep the little bathroom as it is, but put the shower immediately when you come
21:42in the door. It's the only place where you have the full head height. I think if there would be
21:46a
21:46second bedroom, I think it would be very hard to say no. Okay. So it's just a matter really of
21:52trying to figure out whether you could switch around the uses of the other rooms, maybe a little
21:57bit. So take for example, that lovely vaulted sitting room, get your kitchen in there or even
22:02get a kitchen living room in there and it frees up another room somewhere else. I feel like I might
22:07have
22:07something that might tip it over the edge for you. How does 56,000 sound? Wow. We like, we like
22:13a good
22:14bargain. 56 is a bargain, isn't it? 56 sounds like a bargain to me. By giving up the bedroom,
22:20the price kind of reflects that. My mind is racing now. Yeah.
22:27That last house really was a bargain, Maggie. But at that price, it's clear the lads will have some
22:33renovation work ahead of them. And as we've already discovered, getting work done in Italy isn't
22:39always straightforward, especially if you're not a local. Oh, they're all so beautiful.
22:47I've come to meet Emilia Bunyard, a horse riding instructor and food guide. She knows firsthand
22:53what it's like to renovate here, having moved to Puglia 10 years ago. And it wasn't without its
22:58challenges. So you know firsthand all about this. You renovated. Can you tell me a little bit about your
23:05journey? When I moved here, I didn't speak any Italian beyond, you know, sort of vino and coffee,
23:11please. That's important. Good morning. Buongiorno. I wanted to do a renovation project. And it was
23:15much harder. It was much harder than I thought. I mean, partly because people don't turn up on time.
23:20The sense of time here is very different. People are much more relaxed, which is beautiful. But
23:27when you're kind of going, oh, here's my budget. Here's my schedule. And I've got like this much
23:32time to finish it. That's, that's quite stressful. Bureaucracy here is absolutely confusing. And I still
23:40don't understand it. I had to kind of have a word with myself and go, okay, kind of like
23:44all the beautiful things that outweigh the stressful things are worth it. But I have to accept
23:50how it is rather than I can't change it. Have you become a bit more relaxed as a person? No,
23:55hell no.
23:58Like that. Niall and Todd have arrived and Emyria has kindly offered to help us explore the area.
24:18We heard a lot about the red tape here initially. Any advice for us how we might proceed if we
24:22were to
24:23move here? The expectation is that you know the system and you know the hidden
24:27fees. So someone might give you a cost, but it might not include like the taxes. And I think
24:33that locals know to expect those things. And I obviously didn't found out as it came up.
24:39So you have to learn to know what questions to ask. You have to, yes. So you have to be
24:43like
24:44more thorough than you would, you would expect. And I suppose that's part of the difference in the
24:48system. Any advice how to tackle the red tape? I think hire an expert. I mean,
24:53you have a geometra here if you're renovating. A geometra is somewhere between, somewhere between an
24:57architect and an engineer. But like, they will be super, super useful for you. Budget extra and be
25:17patient.
25:17Back home, building and expenses for building is through the roof. What are the prices like over
25:23here? You know, the prices have gone up also for properties here. And I think for labour and now
25:28materials, the cost of materials has gone up. But still, yeah, you know, I think a fraction of what it
25:33is
25:33at home, absolutely. And is it easy to get people to do work for you? Or are you waiting and
25:37waiting?
25:39Be prepared for everything to take longer than you expect. So be relaxed about that. And learn
25:45Italian. The Pugliese people are super welcoming, super friendly. And once they take you to heart,
25:51they, you know, like, they're your mates for life. I think if you don't integrate, you might as well
25:55just eat pizza and stay at home. Yeah, you may as well stay in Ireland. What's the point? You know,
25:59you have to make some sort of effort to get into the country you're living in. So you're 10 years
26:04in. Any regrets? No, no, not really. I don't. Overall, I absolutely love it here. It's been hard work,
26:12but totally worth it. That's lovely. This is all ahead of you. Oh, yeah. Looking forward to it.
26:17Yeah. Still a smile on her face. That's good. Some tears, maybe, but smiles. Well, salute day to you.
26:25Yes. Salute day. Thank you. Grazie, grazie. The next day, it's back to business and time to look at our
26:33third property. This time, we've headed north of Ostuni to the town of Caravino, an up-and-coming
26:41place that still offers great value. Just a short walk from the town centre are two gorgeous
26:48apartments. Both are for sale, but I'm focusing on the top one, as it has three bedrooms, a roof terrace,
26:55and my favourite feature, a wraparound balcony. It could do with some updating and needs to be
27:02properly subdivided from the rest of the building. So there is work to do, but the asking price is just
27:08100,000 euro. So I really want to show the lads an apartment. This building is very typical of
27:15sort of post-war construction in Italy. So they're quite well built. They're spacious. They have their
27:21own front door off the street. Okay. It's an apartment, but it's similar to a house. The top
27:27one is the one I love the most. The one on the bottom, at the same time though, is fully
27:31furnished and lived
27:32in. So what I'm thinking of doing is showing the lads around this one, and then I'll just let them
27:36wander up
27:37and see the other one as well.
27:42So this is the main living space here. More spacious than I expected from the outside.
27:47We have three smaller rooms off that could potentially be bedrooms of different sizes.
27:53Then we have a big formal dining room that leads on to a really big kitchen and bathroom to the
27:59back.
27:59Lots of space, different rooms. I would be inclined maybe to open it up a little bit.
28:04Okay. There's a lot of potential to improve this space. You can see that there's a little bit of
28:09damp in the ceiling coming from above, but that's something that's fairly straightforward to repair.
28:15I think it's a really good place here. The lads loved yesterday's house though, and I'm not sure
28:19whether even a large apartment is going to be enough to sway them away from that house.
28:25Very different, big contrast. Yeah, absolutely.
28:30Hey! Romeo, Romeo!
28:33So have you ever thought about apartment living? Oh, we certainly have.
28:37We would definitely not roll it out. So what I want to show you is this apartment here,
28:41and all above us comes with it. But the apartment down below is also for sale, and this one's fully
28:47furnished. So I think it'll give you more of an idea of how to live in the space. Looks great
28:52from here, doesn't it?
28:53It looks clean and tidy. So you guys have a look. Myself and Elizabeth will meet you on the roof.
28:59Right, see you later. See you in a bit.
29:03Unexpectedly big. I wasn't expecting the high ceiling here. No, it's absolutely enormous, isn't it?
29:09I like that. It's a big double bedroom. It's a large kitchen. Huge. And I think we came through
29:16from the light room there. The middle room is a bit dark, isn't it? The middle room is very dark.
29:21There's no windows in there. There's no windows. There's no natural light at all. This is a little bit
29:26dark still. Yeah. The fireplace did surprise me. I didn't expect anything. It's amazing, isn't it?
29:31Yeah. In the apartment. Yeah, it's pretty cool. We have the bathroom and the toilet leading up the
29:37kitchen. Your favourite, Todd. Not sure about that. I know.
29:44OK, we have some light here, I think. The first impression, just the light coming through the window.
29:50Look at that floor. It's a little bit old fashioned, but I think it's staying here.
29:55We wouldn't be touching that. No. Going anywhere near that with a can-go hammer,
29:59that is staying exactly where it is. I have to do a bit of thinking about how best to fit
30:04what we
30:04would like into this room. OK, that's a lovely balcony. OK. Oh, there's a full view of the town
30:10from here. I think that's a coast. 10 minute, 20 minute drive. Yeah, maybe, maybe. You wouldn't walk.
30:16So what else have we got here? OK. Oh, look at that now, up the hill. OK. Very cool. That's
30:21the old town.
30:23So how'd you get on in that upstairs apartment? Do you like it? Yeah, I don't know where to start.
30:28Just the space. Each room is very generous. Yeah, and the good high ceiling is not quite as high as
30:34the apartment on the ground floor, but still pretty high. Now the kitchen is dark, but that room in the
30:39middle is really super dark. The same issue as the one on the ground floor. What can we do about
30:43that?
30:43So what I would do is I would open up that wall and maybe take down the wall to the
30:48smaller room with
30:49the window. And so you'd have one large living dining kitchen space. Yeah, I like the idea. I think
30:55it's a good idea. And don't forget we have up here too. So we don't just have a roof terrace.
31:01We have
31:01another room in there. I know technically there's two rooms, but really that main central room there
31:07could be a fantastic summer kitchen for you leading out onto this terrace. It could be a bedroom. You've got
31:13so many options. Just be open-minded about, I suppose, about what you can do with it. So if I
31:17told you
31:18that the apartment on the ground floor was a hundred thousand euro, what would you think the top two
31:24floors were? Let's go 115. Right. Well, it's on the market for exactly the same price. Oh, 100,000. Oh,
31:30okay. That's a nice surprise. Yeah. We don't, we're getting a start to get a feel for what's good value
31:36around, but we're not quite sure yet. It's all good value. You're just not used to good value in
31:42property and you don't know what to do with it. I know. It's been an action packed few days.
31:48We've seen some real bargains and gathered plenty of useful advice. Now it's time for us all to unwind
31:55back in Ostuni and try some of that world famous Italian cuisine, though not everyone is feeling
32:02adventurous. I see somebody doesn't have any food on his plate. I'm a bit picky. Are you? Let's put
32:09it mildly that I'm a bit picky. I'd struggle with a lot of what's on the table right now. I'd
32:13probably
32:13have a bit of bread. So what's a typical dinner? A typical dinner would be good Irish dinner. Good
32:18meat and two veg, maybe. Okay. Or maybe even meat and one veg. And the veg will be potatoes.
32:25You're not going to get the most out of Italy at all, are you? No, not with what's on this
32:30table,
32:30but you know, you never know. So I have an idea maybe for you to broaden your palate a little
32:35bit. Okay. Are you up for the challenge, though, of maybe broadening your palate? Definitely up for
32:40the challenge. Well, we start with this. Yeah, manage. I think we might manage that one, James. A bit of
32:46mozzarella. Maybe a bit of mozzarella. Yeah, baby steps. Yeah, baby steps. And then octopus. That might
32:52be pushing it a bit too far, James, I think. Do we need to hide the octopus in the mozzarella?
32:58Maybe between
32:58the two slices of bread. In the spud. The slagging will continue until tomorrow,
33:06when we have to visit our last property. I'm not saying it's hideous, but maybe it's not to my
33:13taste. And maybe Niall will prove us all wrong. Myself and James are in Puglia in southern Italy,
33:22helping Todd Posius and Niall Sherry find their dream European home. They're looking for a two-bedroom
33:30house or apartment with authentic Italian charm and outdoor space or a terrace. They don't want to be
33:37too far from a town and will take on a renovation project. Their budget is €150,000. And so far,
33:46we've seen three contenders. A rustic villa with potential but no indoor toilet, a small but impressive
33:54townhouse at an absolute steal of a price and a second-floor apartment with sea views.
34:02Before I show Todd and Niall our final property, I've come to the small tourist town of Albero Bello
34:09to learn more about a building style we've often seen across the countryside since we arrived here.
34:15These are truly houses. Their distinctive beehive-shaped stone domes are a centuries-old architectural
34:23tradition of this part of southern Italy. And as a result, Albero Bello is now a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
34:32James is on a mission here to help Foodshy Niall discover the amazing culinary culture Puglia has to offer.
34:40But by happy coincidence, I've found a truly home nearby that's been lovingly restored by Sue and Michael Foley.
34:49When I see these truly houses dotted all over the countryside, they're either
34:53fallen down like a pile of stones or they're magnificent. What was this one like when you came first?
34:59Well, it was an absolute complete ruin. It was encased in plant life. There was no outside
35:06paths, there's no driveway. You just had to kind of walk down here.
35:10How do you even think about making that into a functioning house?
35:14Well, it helps that he's a builder.
35:16We knew a lot about the true loves because we had seen a lot of them. And I have a
35:21lot of friends here
35:22who do it. And they are protected, I'm assuming.
35:24This one's a protected grade one listed building. So yeah, it wasn't an easy process.
35:31Okay. But if you've got the right people, it is. And it helps.
35:35Are these tops typical? They can vary between towns or they might have a special meaning to the
35:42original family that lived there. Oh, lovely.
35:47So we're straight into our first cone. Do you know, it's small, but it feels so spacious with the
35:53height of the ceiling. Most of this wasn't here when we found it, but Michael's restored it slowly,
35:59very slowly. You know, you take pride in restoring something like this because it is so old. People
36:05used to work on the land in these trulies. They would have to pay tax, but then other people would
36:10come and try and take tax off them as well. So they have a keystone in the trulie. So when
36:16they knock
36:17it out, the roof collapses or part of the roof. So what they used to say was, well, nobody can
36:24live in
36:24here. So they didn't have to pay the tax. And then they just build it up again. Yeah. Yeah.
36:30You build it on the round. And so you just build it all the way up to the top and
36:33put the pinnacle on.
36:35They were masters of stone and they would build that up in maybe a day or two.
36:40That's true. And it's not like they're looking in and seeing a fitted kitchen and all in here.
36:43Exactly. Well, they're definitely living here.
36:48So in our second cone here, we have an amazing bathroom, I have to say.
36:54It's a real labour of love, I feel that room was for you. Thank you.
36:59OK, so we have a good big living space now back here. We tried to make sure that we used
37:04all local
37:05products and obviously a lot of recycled pieces, particularly even with the furniture.
37:11Is this sink that's locally made? So there's a local artisan stone,
37:15stone merchant really, isn't he? Yeah.
37:17In the worktop I made myself. So that's a Wexford worktop.
37:20That's a Wexford concrete worktop. It's absolutely gorgeous.
37:24So talk to me about this floor. This stone is particular to Puglia and it's called Kyanke.
37:30We tried to lay it in a particular way that seemed really ancient as well as the house is
37:36probably a thousand years old. And it took him three times as long.
37:41Because I took pictures of other floors that I've seen, it gives you an idea of how to do it
37:47and what
37:47to do. I mean, it is really important to try and use everything locally, as many things as you can
37:53to
37:53recycle as well. Make it look old and keep within a budget as well, which is really important.
37:59Yeah.
38:01What a view. You have everything out here in this garden. Talk to me about your pool,
38:06because this is above ground. Have you limitations here?
38:09Yes. So this is an above ground pool, which is dismantle-able at any time.
38:14So if somebody comes and wants to charge you a tax on your pool, you can just pull something out
38:20and the whole thing goes. That's not a pool. I don't know.
38:24How much did you pay for the place? So it was 65,000 euros. Really?
38:29Yeah, it's amazing. Wow.
38:31That was in 2020, wasn't it? Yeah.
38:34Yeah. Mostly Michael did everything himself, but obviously we did use a lot of local people as well
38:40came in to help us. So if you add everything together, how much do you think you've spent
38:43doing the place up? Probably between 200 and 250,000.
38:48Yeah. For the renovation. Yeah. It's amazing. I can't believe it.
38:52Thank you. I think that if you wanted to buy one of these Trulies and you got the local people
38:57to come
38:57and do it, you could obviously do it a lot quicker. Yeah. What was your most expensive thing,
39:02do you think, do you think, that you did? Hmm. How much beer and wine would you enjoy them?
39:10What I love about this renovation is that Sue and Michael reused so much stuff out of the rubble
39:17of these Trulies. And in doing so, they've really honoured the old building.
39:22In Puglia, food is at the heart of everyday life. And if Niall and Todd want to settle here,
39:29understanding that culture could be key to fitting in. So, I'm in the centre of Albero Bello,
39:36meeting local guide, Melina Panaro, who's going to help me, and hopefully Niall, understand why food
39:42matters so much to the people of Puglia. So, I've two guys with me. One is Niall and he's a
39:48fussy eater,
39:49doesn't like a lot of different foods. Okay. We need to change that. Okay. You're up for that. Yes,
39:54I can, I can help you. Because in the south, it's all about food, isn't it? Yes. When
39:58people come here, we share everything with other people, especially in little towns like Albero Bello.
40:05Okay, you sound perfect for this mission. Let's go feed Niall. Okay. Thank you.
40:12Melina is taking myself, Todd, and a nervous Niall on a nonna culinary tour of Albero Bello,
40:19where we visit some of the few remaining residents of this unique village. I'm going to try to introduce
40:26them to some delicious meals prepared by the local experts. What are these? They're very pretty.
40:32They are, this is a typical pastry here. Okay. We are used to eat them in the morning for breakfast
40:39and we drink coffee,
40:41our traditional coffee, mocha. Thanks. And a little biscuit. We have to try this. Very nice.
40:49It's all. It should represent, let's say, what we should eat. It should be the first choice.
40:56So, for her and for her family, the most important thing is to eat food of high quality.
41:15So, what is going on here? What's this? These are the fava beans, you know, and this is our typical
41:20dish.
41:21I want to try.
41:22It's very dangerous, but, yeah. Okay, but be careful.
41:26Of course. Okay.
41:27I want to try.
41:28Oh, it's hard. Okay.
41:30Okay.
41:31You are better!
41:34One fava bean time, one million to go.
41:38Truly!
41:39Truly!
41:41This region's cooking grew out of simple ingredients and a history of making the most of very little.
41:48But, over time, it's become one of the most distinctive food cultures in Italy.
41:53Meals here aren't just about eating. They're about hospitality, family, and community.
41:59These are the fava beans.
42:01Oh, okay.
42:03You know, how old is she?
42:0650?
42:07No, 50. I am 56.
42:12She's 80.
42:1380?
42:14Oh, wow, wow.
42:15It's the olive oil.
42:18It's a good life.
42:22Me being a fussy eater now, it's kind of hard to eat. There's kind of a variety of food, but
42:26it's
42:26interesting. It's good.
42:30Well, Niall might not be completely converted just yet, but he's at least starting to see that here in
42:38Puglia, understanding food is a big part of understanding your new neighbors.
42:45For our final property, we're back in the town of Caravino.
42:49We're looking at a central, spacious second floor apartment that's ready to move straight into.
42:56It's relatively modern, currently laid out with two bedrooms and the best terrace we've seen so far.
43:03It's on the market for 110,000 euro.
43:08It's very traditional Italian streets.
43:10Yeah.
43:10So the first impressions are nice. The apartment's a little bit more modern feel to it.
43:15I'm not saying it's hideous, but maybe it's not to my taste.
43:19I think it needs a little bit of work to bring it up to what we would like it to
43:22look like.
43:23I think so. It's quite funny with its little 1980s kind of cladding and stuff on it, but that can
43:29be removed.
43:29You could take off the stone, you could re-plaster it and you could paint it to make it similar
43:34to the other buildings.
43:35That's good. That's good.
43:39Okay, we have the hallway. Quite narrow here. Very high space.
43:44And again, it's steep steps just on the street level.
43:47And then to the right of the bedroom, so have a look in there, won't we?
43:50Yeah. Cool.
43:51Decent sized room.
43:53And again, the floor is nice. It's a bit strange with those windows.
43:56They're very high up, aren't they? Like prison cell kind of feel, isn't it?
44:00It's interesting that there's a bedroom leading off the bedroom.
44:03Yeah, which is not particularly practical.
44:05So you have to walk from one to another.
44:08Yeah, yeah, yeah. And from here it looks even darker in there.
44:13Okay, that's the bathroom.
44:15At least it's not off the kitchen.
44:16Well, that's true.
44:17It's functioning. Yeah.
44:19Functioning bathroom.
44:20Okay, last but not least, this is a sitting room and kitchen, I think.
44:24Much more light in here.
44:26This is nice space. That's what I expected.
44:28It's a nice floor. It's a kitchen just there.
44:30Again, no doors, just kind of this arch opening.
44:34Massive fireplace in the corner.
44:35That is a statement.
44:39And again, it's the same level floor here.
44:41So it's a little bit maybe busy road here.
44:44It's like five streets.
44:46I think everything looks nicer in the sun.
44:48I think so.
44:49And it feels nicer in the sun for sure.
44:53So it's safe to say we've seen a lot of roof terraces.
44:56It's very open, good size, right in the sun.
45:01Okay, it needs a bit of upgrading.
45:03Did you see the kitchen?
45:04Yeah, wow.
45:05That was a bit of a surprise.
45:06That was a bit of a last thing.
45:07But one thing we've learned probably over the last few days is the Italians don't like
45:10to be too far from the kitchen.
45:12You do have those options either to keep living kitchen downstairs, make a bedroom at this level,
45:18or keep your kitchen up here for your outdoor dining on the terrace and use below as a guest
45:23bedroom, an extra bedroom when you need to.
45:25I was surprised when we came up now that that extra room, that opens up all the options I think
45:29in
45:29this property for sure.
45:30Was the flow a little bit better than yesterday's house?
45:33A little bit better, but there was one kind of negative point downstairs.
45:36The two back rooms were a bit darker.
45:39And the fact that one bedroom leads off another is not particularly practical for what we'd be looking for.
45:44The first room you can manage.
45:46The one behind it, it's more about just changing your outlook on that room.
45:50If that was a walk-in closet, an ensuite, they're more prone to not having big floods of natural
45:57light in them anyway.
45:58You could just do a really, really nice lighting design in the room.
46:01Now, Maggie, you're definitely messing with our minds this time, I think.
46:04I think it's this thing about Italy though, the houses have weird layouts sometimes,
46:10and you have to really just get your head around them.
46:12And if you can figure them out, you will get a bargain.
46:15So let's have a chat about this price.
46:17Oh, here we go.
46:18It's on the market for $110,000.
46:19OK, that's probably a little bit more than we expected.
46:25We thought there would be less than the house number three yesterday.
46:29Really?
46:29Yeah, because the amount of space yesterday.
46:31You wouldn't have to spend much to move in.
46:33No, no.
46:34Yesterday, there were things to deal with before that.
46:36We thought this would be just a definite no-no, but I think, no, that's not the case now.
46:40OK, so you go figure all that out, and then come find me when you've made your decision.
46:45That was good.
46:45Talk later.
46:48I think Niall and Todd are happy with the selection of properties I've shown them over
46:53the last few days here in Puglia.
46:55First, there was the rustic countryside villa.
46:59Then, we travelled to the town of Murolecese to see a compact one-bedroom townhouse.
47:05Next, it was Caravinho, where we visited a light-filled, spacious second-floor apartment.
47:10And again in Caravinho, our last property was another large second-floor apartment.
47:17My final task in Puglia is to find out if the guys are any closer to their dream European home.
47:25So, I'm assuming you have some sort of a decision, or at least one kind of is floating towards the
47:29top, is it?
47:30I think we are a little bit torn between the first and second property.
47:34They're very different, but each of them had something that we ultimately asked for.
47:39But we ultimately, I think, are going for number two, are we?
47:43We're going for number two.
47:44I think so.
47:44Oh, I wanted that one.
47:46That's not fair.
47:48That's a good house.
47:49We think so.
47:50We think it's a good starter for us here in the region and this country.
47:53It's pretty much a walk-in condition. We can put out a stamp on it, maybe a little bit of
47:59renovation.
47:59It would be a very nice place in a very nice town.
48:02It was a great price too, wasn't it?
48:04And a good bargain.
48:04What's the plan then? What are we doing?
48:06Probably get in touch with the agent on this one, because I think we're close to looking at maybe
48:10putting an offer on it, so we're really interested in it.
48:12Yes!
48:13Like, we really did fall in love with it, so I think we really need to see it again,
48:17get a proper feel when there's no cameras around, so we know what's going on and get a proper feel
48:21for the local vibe.
48:22So I think that'd be really what we want to do.
48:24Well, best of luck.
48:25Thanks for all your help.
48:27It was a great time.
48:29I really love Todd and Niall's way of thinking about this house.
48:33Staying back another couple of days, having another look at it, because that's the thing.
48:37If you see a house out here and you get a good feeling about it, you just have to go
48:42for it,
48:43or you might never do it.
48:46I love the Italian way of life.
48:48I want to live here.
48:49The connection between family, friends, food, gathering, I think it's just so gorgeous.
48:55It is, it is.
48:56It kind of hooks you in, doesn't it?
48:58I think you do need flexibility, though, and patience, but I think if you have that
49:03and you're willing to just go with this Italian pace, I think you can really get a bargain here.
49:09Yeah, well, the payoff is this, which is fab.
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