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00:27Satsang with Mooji
00:30Oh, my God.
01:13Oh, my God.
01:40Oh, my God.
02:00Oh, my God.
02:25Oh, my God.
02:27Oh, my God.
02:53Oh, my God.
03:22Oh, my God.
03:24Oh, my God.
03:37Listen, these guys that you employ to make up these games, what are they really like?
04:08Oh, my God.
04:11Oh, my God.
04:46Oh, my God.
05:11Are you making me rich?
05:14Oh, my God.
05:20Oh, my God.
05:27Oh, my God.
05:34Oh, my God.
06:01Oh, my God.
06:04Oh, my God.
06:11Oh, my God.
06:14Oh, my God.
06:14So, my God.
06:15I'm so sorry.
06:16What is that?
06:18Oh, my God.
06:19Oh, my God.
06:36wanted that's better you have to say that because I'm the boss
07:20I'm the boss
07:31THE END
07:54Once upon a time, those of us who pursue the disciplines of sociology and social anthropology
08:00were not terribly interested in the leisure activities of the human race.
08:04Of course, we've always been extremely fascinated by religion and sex,
08:09though I'm not sure that these are, strictly speaking, leisure activities.
08:13But nowadays, as this conference shows, everything under the sun is grist to our academic mill,
08:20including the wide variety of games that people play,
08:25as the distinguished work of Dr Cashby has demonstrated so brilliantly.
08:30And so, we are particularly fortunate to have as our guest this morning,
08:35Mr Nicholas Thorne, who has the supreme practical qualification
08:38of having made a great deal of money out of games.
08:44I should say that I'm just a businessman and I don't even know what the hell social anthropology is.
08:52Nevertheless, I'm sure we have much to learn from what you can tell us, Mr Thorne.
08:57First of all, by way of introduction, a piece of modern technology,
09:00which Dr Cashby has described as our version of primitive magic,
09:05I'm told that if I press this button here,
09:09and then this one,
09:13then there will be...
09:15Oh, there we are.
09:21Good evening, and welcome to the show.
09:23Now, tell me, what is your favourite game?
09:26Is it a game of chance,
09:28pitting your wits against the family,
09:30or against the computer?
09:33Anyway, suddenly all us hip folk are big on games like these.
09:37So how about a warm welcome
09:39for a man who's made big bucks
09:41out of the games people play,
09:42Mr Nicholas Thorne.
09:46Now, they tell me that you're a millionaire.
09:48You certainly don't look like one.
09:50How do I look?
09:52Well, the way I used to look.
09:53What went wrong?
09:56OK, thank you very much. Shut up.
09:58Otherwise, you'll get free tickets to the next week's show.
10:01Well, Nicholas, you're obviously not short of a bob or two.
10:04I read that your company...
10:05You should have told me I wouldn't have come.
10:07Oh, that's most interesting.
10:11Besides, he was a pupil of mine.
10:14Oh, well, can't win them all.
10:53I read something where it said you came from the car.
10:55from a very boring background. Well, go on. Boris. Yeah. Yeah, I came from a very boring background.
11:06My, uh, my father worked in a factory. My mother was, uh, just a housewife. I, uh, I left school,
11:14bummed around a bit, worked at this and that, and wound up in the games business.
11:17My autobiography is going to be a very short book. Not that I've any intention of writing one.
11:21But a millionaire at your age, I'm sure you've got to the top very quickly, haven't you?
11:25Inventing all those games? Very quickly. No, I, um, I started Sorcerer ten years ago and I don't invent the
11:32games.
11:32Other people do that. I just market them. You don't invent the games? Well, I think we have a case
11:36of false pretences here.
11:38What do you think? Just a businessman. Very successful. You've got to be very ruthless.
11:47Ruthless? No, I, no, I don't think so. Well, apparently, um, you're very good at poaching,
11:54inventors from other companies. I, uh, I offer a better contract. What would you say if someone
12:00offered you a better contract? Well, I'd say about time too.
12:04Listen, these guys that you, uh, employ to make up these games,
12:08what are they really like?
12:11What are they really like?
12:35What are they really like?
12:44So, uh, given the relatively low level of, uh, product-specific advertising
12:49in your industry, how do you explain the success of one game as against another?
12:56I don't. I can't. But there's got to be some explanation. In scientific terms.
13:03I'm sure there is. But that's your department. Perhaps you might find some connections in the
13:08work of play theorists, such as Husinga. What team does he play for?
13:13Hmm. Johan Husinga is the author of Homo Ludens, the study of the play element in culture.
13:20His theory, much simplified, is that...
13:23Look, I sell things. They happen to be games. Now, they might be symbolic,
13:27they might be keys to the subconscious mind and all that, but what I do is get your conscious mind
13:31to hand over the cash in the shop if I don't am out of business. As I said, I don't
13:36create them,
13:36I sell them.
13:37Mr. Torn, where do you think the future lies for the games? Will they all be computer-based?
13:43I doubt it. See, there's basically two kinds of game. There's the ones you play on your own,
13:48computer games, a perfect example. But the other kind of game, like the old traditional
13:53board game, that's more of a family thing. You bring people together to play. And that's
13:57still a huge market. So, er, I suppose the future lies with coming up with clever variations
14:03on those two basic ideas. Does that answer your question?
14:12Thanks for coming along. It's extremely useful. Your philosophy of games is most interesting.
14:19Oh, dear, your chauffeur's not back yet.
14:22No, he won't be back. He'll give me the rest of the day off.
14:25Oh, I'll get someone to phone for a taxi.
14:27Don't worry. I've made other arrangements.
14:34This is the arrangement. My friend, Faye.
14:37How did you drink?
14:38This is the learned professor I told you about.
14:40He thinks I'm quite a philosopher in my own way.
14:42All men are philosophers.
14:44And women?
14:45Women are arrangements.
14:48Hmm.
15:13Hide and seek.
15:15That our little game.
15:18Well, now you're it.
15:47When you want the best, you pay the most, eh?
15:52You're a smart fella.
15:53I checked around.
15:55Nice and discreet, and you were right.
15:58Nobody knows about this set-up yet.
16:01Yuppie heaven it's gonna be, innit?
16:03Whole bloody place pre-wired for their cute little mini-micros.
16:07Doing their little share deals, accessing their little accounts, plotting their little bio-rhythms.
16:12And I may move in myself.
16:15Don't think I couldn't afford it.
16:18Right.
16:20It's playtime.
16:23Take it easy, will you?
16:25Freddy cat.
16:27How was the seminar?
16:29Oh, bluffing my way through it, my usual charm.
16:35Where are we going?
16:37Somewhere special.
16:39You'll see.
16:40Friday.
16:43What day is this?
16:45Friday.
16:46Mm-hmm.
16:51The day we go away for the weekend?
16:54Yes.
16:59Okay, give up.
17:01Seven months ago, today.
17:04What?
17:06Oh, ho, ho.
17:10So we're celebrating.
17:11Why not?
17:14Did you think we'd last this long?
17:16I knew we would.
17:19We'll keep your eyes on the roadie.
17:21We won't last much longer.
17:37I know.
17:38I know.
17:39I'm telling you it's easier to access GCHQ.
17:43Which I have.
17:53Oh, come on, come on.
18:03Bugger it.
18:04This one's a killer.
18:07First, there's all the usual barbed wire and the traps.
18:10I know how to fix that.
18:11It's easy.
18:13Then there's the sophisticated stuff.
18:16That's easy, too.
18:18I'm into accounts now.
18:20There's a final set of codes in here, and they're random.
18:24I mean private.
18:26Personal.
18:30We're stuck, my friend.
18:32Or rather, you are.
18:33Oh, my God.
18:35Oh, my God.
18:49Oh, my God.
18:52Oh, my God.
18:54Oh, my God.
18:54Oh, my God.
18:57Oh, my God.
19:18It's a lovely view, isn't it?
19:23I prefer you.
19:32I hope you're paying for this. I've only got about a hundred quid on me.
19:37Remember, you've got one chance only.
19:39One wrong guess, and it's goodnight Vienna.
19:42The whole access will close down.
20:10Are you ready to order, sir?
20:13Yeah.
20:14Pie, chips and beans, and the pint of your best bitter.
20:20And steak pie or pork, sir?
20:23Well, pilgrim, we cracked it, didn't we?
20:27Maybe we can do some more business sometime.
26:16Somebody has managed to hit the bloody jackpot.
26:19Our jackpot.
26:21You understand?
26:22Hold it.
26:23Hold it, sorry.
26:25Hold it back.
26:32Hold it back.
26:33Hold it.
26:33Hold it.
26:33We're right back.
26:35Bye!
26:35I have gone to the cleaners.
26:37No, I am not kidding.
26:41Yep, right.
26:43Quick as you can.
26:59problem hmm serious Tom's doing his nut
27:05you just balanced the petty cash books for one pound fifty out this could be the end of
27:09civilization as we know it I think you'd better drop me back at the office what about our weekend
27:15don't worry chuck some things in the bag we'll be all right as long as we get away about six
27:27so
27:35so
27:36so
27:36so
27:36so
27:38I don't know.
28:13Right, let's have it.
28:19We're 2.1 million down as of 2.15 this afternoon.
28:24Don't be ridiculous.
28:27Computers must have fouled up again.
28:29Yes, that's what I thought.
28:31Uh-uh.
28:32You'd better accept it, Nicholas. We've been robbed.
28:35That's impossible.
28:36You're wrong, Tom.
28:37Yes, sure. What do I know? I'm only the finance director around here.
28:41All right. Don't start.
28:44Where's it gone from?
28:46There's only one sodding account that ever has that much in it.
28:49And only four times a year at that.
28:52If we'd seen as much of you over the past few months as some other people have,
28:55you might remember a little bit more about how this company actually carries out its business.
28:59Yes, Tom.
29:01The royalty account?
29:02Let me explain.
29:04We lease the rights to our gains, and every quarter we pay a share of the profits.
29:10Tom, cut it out.
29:16You don't know anything about this, do you?
29:19What the hell is that supposed to mean?
29:20Some clever little ploy you didn't bother to tell me about.
29:25Oh, come on, Nicholas. It wouldn't be the first time, would it?
29:31Don't worry. If the money's gone, we've been robbed.
29:34Oh, good. That is a relief.
29:39So, who do you think did it?
29:41Don't ask me. What I'd like to know is how they did it.
29:46When's the money due? Monday?
29:48Tuesday. Bank holiday Monday.
29:50Right. Well, how are we going to cover it?
29:53That is the real problem.
29:56Ah, good.
29:58A real problem.
30:03It's the old, old story, Nicholas.
30:06Ever since I've been here, this company has minimum realisable assets.
30:10We don't capitalise, we rent and lease.
30:13Everything on this floor.
30:15Including the floor, in fact.
30:17Huge turnover, good profits, all ploughed back into developing new products.
30:22Your policy, right?
30:25Well, it may all look great from out there.
30:27But as I've said till I'm blue in my face, we're actually on a very narrow margin.
30:32And when disaster strikes...
30:34Disaster? Come on, Tom.
30:36When disaster strikes, we've got damn all to raise 2.1 million.
30:42Not to mention the minor difficulty of trying to do it over a bank holiday weekend.
30:46How the hell do they do it?
30:49I don't know about the how, but I can tell you something about the who.
30:54He left his name for us to find.
30:57Here, I'll show you.
31:10All right!
31:10All right!
31:12All right!
31:30Thank you for watching!
31:33I thought I would have seen a bad factory
31:36Yeah, I meant something that comes from me
31:38And I'd rather be a part of a disco crash
31:41And all the things that you would
31:43Take your mind
31:45This is illusible
31:55Who knows about this?
31:58Me and a couple of the others
31:59I told them it was a quick weekend move into the German money markets
32:03Take advantage of the good old Deutschmark
32:06Hinted it was a bit dodgy
32:07Your idea, etc
32:09Here we are
32:10Well, they didn't do it by changing the programming
32:12Obviously not, or I wouldn't be able to do this
32:14Which means they sailed right through those final codes
32:18Your three magic little words
32:19Stop all transactions over a quarter of a million
32:23But 2.1 million pounds
32:25Is neatly transferred into a nice little account somewhere
32:28That's impossible
32:30Uh-uh
32:33What's that?
32:35That's our man
32:37Mean anything to you?
32:38Yeah
32:39There's a character in our first game
32:42Before your time
32:47Interesting
32:50You didn't do anything daft when you found out about this, did you?
32:53What?
32:54Like calling the police?
32:55Hmm
32:56Oh, do me a favour
32:58Good
33:00Nicholas
33:01You do realise how much trouble we're in, don't you?
33:03Yeah
33:04So what are you going to do about it?
33:07What we're going to do
33:09Is find every possible way to cover this shortfall
33:14What I'm going to do is talk to my sleeping partner
33:19Well, she used to be
33:23May I ask your business here, sir?
33:25You're absolutely right
33:26What do you mean?
33:27It is my business
33:28In that case, sir, I should tell you
33:30The government's committee has authorised me to detain her and call the police
33:33I'm here to see Mrs Thorne
33:35Is she expecting you?
33:36It's an outside possibility, I'm her husband
33:38I thought Mrs Thorne was a widow
33:40Oh, there's life after divorce
34:26Hi
34:28You alone?
34:29Can I come in?
34:49What do you mean, what's happened?
34:56Why should anything have happened?
34:57You're here
35:00Why shouldn't I be here?
35:02I've got visiting rights
35:05Which, incidentally, you might tell your bodyguard about
35:10Lots of thieves around these days
35:14Look, I haven't got much time
35:16I'm going away for the weekend
35:18Oh, yeah?
35:18Is there still Gavin?
35:21Sort of
35:22What did you want?
35:23Miss introduce us sometime
35:24Seemed a nice, friendly sort of bloke
35:26So it's trouble
35:30Hmm?
35:31All this dodging and weaving
35:34There's been years of experience, eh?
35:38Yeah
35:38Trouble with a capital T
35:43How about a drink before Gavin arrives?
35:46I'm going to meet him, actually
35:49Look, I'm leaving in a couple of hours
35:51And I've got a lot to do before then
35:54All right
35:55The, er, company in which you have 10% interest
35:58Experienced a little problem today
36:00Someone nicked two million from the royalty account
36:02What?
36:04What?
36:04Capital T, right?
36:16Here
36:17Okay
36:19You'll cost ya
36:36So what's going to happen?
36:38Technically, the company's bankrupt
36:40We have money we haven't got
36:41Well, can't we borrow it?
36:42We could
36:43But as dear Tom has been pointing out ad nauseam
36:46There are dangers
36:47As soon as word gets round that I'm trying to raise that kind of money
36:49By Tuesday morning, everyone we deal with will be smelling a rat
36:52I think the best idea is to go after them
36:55Get the money back
36:56Oh, fine
36:57What about the police?
36:58Isn't that their job?
36:59The police don't know a thing about this
37:00And it's going to stay that way
37:02I'm being strictly pragmatic
37:04Too many reporters hang around police stations
37:06Besides, I'm not so sure that it's just plain theft
37:09I think there's something more to it
37:10Like what?
37:13You're up to something
37:16Who, me?
37:17Oh, you've cut the odd corner before now, haven't you?
37:19To say the least
37:21Oh, I see
37:24Well, if I'd robbed myself, if that's what you mean
37:26And I don't see why I should
37:28I'd have done it properly
37:29What do you mean?
37:31The Pilgrim took exactly 2.1 million
37:34He left some small change
37:35He saved over 80 grand
37:36Why didn't he take the lot?
37:38The Pilgrim?
37:39Yeah, you remember where we started in the castle
37:41With the Huntsman, the Pilgrim, the Princess?
37:43Yes, I know
37:43What's it got to do with this?
37:45That's the name the thief left on the computer
37:47His signature
37:50It's, er, a little joke
37:53And he knew
37:55Pardon me, he mustn't be sexist
37:57He or she knew exactly when to do it
38:00Just 4 days in the year when we're set to pay those royalties
38:03If you ask me, Jenny
38:05It's a bloody conspiracy
38:06They're out to get you
38:08You bet
38:09Maybe I should make a list of all those people who've got something against me
38:15I had nothing to do with this
38:18Didn't you?
38:19Apart from anything else, I know nothing about computers
38:22Oh, you don't need to
38:23You hire someone
38:24I've done it myself
38:25Cutting a few of those corners
38:27Hackers
38:28Electronic mercenaries
38:29Have micro, will travel
38:33Maybe that's where I should start
38:35Am I off the suspect list, then?
38:39Am I?
38:45Oh, for God's sake
38:47Can I use your phone?
38:49It was supposed to be home hours ago
38:52Same old Nick
38:54Does she put up with it any better than I did?
38:56If it hadn't been for the hours I put in
38:57We wouldn't be where we are now
39:03Am I going to meet her sometime?
39:05Why don't the four of us have dinner?
39:08Hello, it's me
39:10Yeah, sorry, I had a problem
39:15What does it say?
39:20You sure?
39:25No, wait there, I'll be back
39:29Nick?
39:31Nick, what's going on?
39:32That's what I want to know
39:40This is insane, you know
39:41Completely insane
39:42If you want the money back
39:44You'd better calm down
39:45And take another look at it
39:46You answer the door
39:48This is lying on the doorstep
39:50And there's no one in sight
39:53And the disc is inside this
40:07I'm just trying to make a fool out of me
40:09It's logical enough
40:10It's a puzzle you've got to solve
40:14It's the business you're in
40:16Games
40:18Which is your favourite game, Mr Thorne?
40:21Cricket, of course
40:22I'm an Englishman
40:23I meant the game's in your kind of business
40:25I'm terrible at this
40:27Don't seem to have the mind for them
40:28That's off the record
40:31Scheming hackers
40:33Or people wanting intriguing, superior entertainment
40:39Please read enclosed code
40:44Additionally, Nicholas can try answering this neat invitation
40:48Okay, I've tried
40:49It doesn't make sense
40:50Says it in code
40:51We just have to decode it
40:56What are you grinning at?
40:58Do you know the solution?
41:03Okay, wait a minute
41:10Okay, okay, I give up
41:12What is it?
41:13Show me
41:13It's an old trick
41:15You get it all the time in crossword clues
41:17Read it initially
41:21What?
41:22The initial letter of each word, genius
41:26Yes
41:28H
41:29O
41:30P
41:32W
41:33I
41:35Shopwee
41:36P
41:37R
41:39E
41:39Separate
41:41Shopwee intact
41:42Separate
41:42Doesn't make sense
41:43Yes, it does
41:45Looks like you've got a date
41:48Shopwise
41:50Precinct
41:52At nine
41:53How terribly clever
41:54Clever or not
41:55We've got about 20 minutes
41:57Unless we want to stand them up
42:00I'm coming with you
42:03No, you're not
42:07Whatever these people are up to
42:08I don't need a passenger to take care of
42:09Then call the police
42:12We've been through all that
42:13It's business and it's private
42:16And I haven't got the time to hang around arguing
42:18We've been through all that
42:21We've been through all that
42:22We've been through all that
42:26We've been through all that
42:27We've been through all that
42:28We've been through all that
42:28We've been through all that
42:30We've been through all that
42:34We've been through all that
42:35We've been through all that
42:36We've been through all that
42:36We've been through all that
42:36We've been through all that
42:37We've been through all that
42:37We've been through all that
42:45We've been through all that
43:14All I came through, all I came through, all I came through.
43:17All I came through, all I came through, all I came through, all I came through, all I came through.
43:47I'm going to throw out your love ass, I'm going to throw out your love ass.
44:33I'm out of control, I'm in some mess, I stand on truth, I'm up and assist, I'm on a set,
44:39it's the way I am, I'm fine, I said, but I was down, out of control.
45:10I'm out of control, I'm in some mess, out of control, I'm in some mess.
45:23Um, sorry, where are we, I don't reckon, what are you doing, it's, excuse me, I don't understand
45:34what are you doing, it's, excuse me, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know,
45:52I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
46:22Oh, my God.
46:54What happened?
46:56What's that?
47:07Nicholas, my boy.
47:09My dear boy.
47:11We've got a new game to play, you and I.
47:14It's called the One Game.
47:16The reality game that really works.
47:20You mean nothing new under the sun, Mr. Thorne?
47:23That's right.
47:24Well, there is one thing.
47:25It's just an idea.
47:27Nobody's anywhere near getting it to work on a commercial scale.
47:29Cleans, go on.
47:32Well, some people in America have come up with what they call a reality game.
47:35It's sort of a secret event with maybe hundreds of people involved.
47:38And you don't know who they are.
47:39They might be total strangers.
47:40They might be closest friends.
47:42Get a few clues.
47:43They might be tricks.
47:44There aren't really any rules.
47:45Could be playing every minute of the day and not knowing reality games.
47:52I've cracked it, Nicholas.
47:53I really have.
47:55And we're going to play it.
47:57In fact, we've already started, haven't we?
48:05Oh, Jesus, I knew it.
48:09It's Magnus.
48:12He's out.
48:23We're going to play it.
48:32We're going to play it.
48:56We're going to play it.
49:33We're going to play it.
49:56We're going to play it.
49:58We're going to play it.
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