00:00We do have this sort of honourable chap system. We have customs, we have diplomatic relations,
00:05we do have a way of doing things. We have, you know, many, many world leaders have gone to
00:11Oxford or Cambridge and studied PPE and people have an understanding between each other on
00:16sort of how to communicate. Obviously, Donald Trump stands way outside that, but even just
00:23our political systems, regardless of who's in the White House, do have quite an interesting
00:28conflict. So William Hague has this wonderful story from when he was foreign secretary and
00:34Hillary Clinton was secretary of state in Obama's cabinet. And I can't remember if they were at a
00:41G20 or NATO summit, but he had to leave a day early. And she said, you know, William, where are
00:46you
00:46going? And he said, I'm working on my Hillary. And he said, well, I've got to go back to my
00:53constituency in Yorkshire because I've got a surgery tomorrow. I've got a constituency day
00:58and, you know, there are all kinds of decisions to be made about, you know, whether planning for
01:04houses should go ahead or someone's walls fallen down or these are people's problems. And she found
01:09it absolutely astonishing and kind of charming that here he was discussing, you know, whether
01:14they should do action in Syria. And he was, he was heading back to Yorkshire to be with the people.
01:21I love that about our world. I think it's very, it's very grounding for politicians, but you're
01:25right. One of the things that used to really entertain me when I was inside Downing Street
01:30or the cabinet office was that you think that there's no language barrier between relationships
01:35between the US and the UK, because of course there isn't because, you know, we all speak
01:39English. And actually some of the more kind of, some of the more obvious misunderstandings
01:44are because the words mean very different things and tonality is really important.
01:50I'm a big fan of quite.
01:51Quite. Quite is it absolutely.
01:53Even the Americans will say that was quite good. And they mean that was really very nice.
01:58And we mean that was quite awful.
02:02Yes. You do have more, there's more translation than is needed.
02:05Do you think that's why Trump uses capitals? Because he just, he wants to be very, very
02:09clear.
02:10Quite possibly. Thank you for your attention to this matter. But I think the other thing
02:14that is going on here, so there's the, there's the, you know, you do feel a bit of sympathy
02:17for those people inside government who are used to and grown up entirely within a very constrained
02:24rules-based system. That is our, our politicians, our senior civil servants, our military, all of,
02:30they all come from or are part of this same system where everybody has played by the rules.
02:33And they've been socialized in that, all that. So do you have to kind of come to, you know,
02:37the age of whatever it is, late 40s, early 50s, Keir Stummers, what did we say last week?
02:4263. And still playing footy and looking great.
02:44Well, good man. So, you know, you, you are used to everything being done in a certain way.
02:49And this combobulation and the shock of the fact that actually this guy is not playing by
02:54any of those rules. We've got some really interesting kind of jostling and shaking up in the world
02:59order here.
02:5965. Now I want to listen to my light in the light.
02:5965. You know that, even maybe that doesn't bear down your light.
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