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00:03Connor. Yes. We hear you love languages and accents. Other than Russian, what's your favorite?
00:10Ooh, I'm kind of always switching between languages. Right now, I really want to learn
00:16Spanish. I'm from West Texas, so I've always heard Spanish. And living in LA, there's Spanish
00:21everywhere. So it doesn't feel very, like, exotic to me because I've heard it my whole life. But
00:28I think it's, I think it's sexy. Spanish is muy sexy. Yes. Colombian Spanish, I think,
00:36is the sexiest language there is. I like the traditional Spain Spanish. Spain Spanish.
00:40Vamos a la playa de Barcelona. Barcelona. Con Javier Baedén. Yeah. And Venele Bicruz.
00:47Ana de Armas. Ana de Armas. She's Cuban, right? She's Cuban. Okay. Pretty girl. Okay.
00:53This year marks 20 years since Brokeback Mountain. Are there any MM romance movies,
00:58shows, or books that have really stuck with you, either growing up or recently?
01:02Well, I love Brokeback Mountain. It was one of the first things that you told me.
01:06Yeah. I love, Keith Ledger plays Ennis. I still think it's his best work. I think that was one
01:12of the first pivotal ones when you have two leading men take on, you know, gay cowboys. It's pretty bold.
01:18But then, you know, you have Call Me By Your Name, Moonlight, I think with Barry Jenkins saying,
01:24bringing the art house to the hood is what he said. That was already just a beautiful juxtaposition.
01:30And then having, you know, he said he wanted to redefine masculinity with that movie,
01:35which I thought was so cool. Yeah. Call Me By Your Name, I think, was like pretty revolutionary.
01:40Yeah. Yeah. I was in high school at that time. And I remember that being the first thing
01:45that felt like it was really a part of the cultural zeitgeist.
01:49And it also handled, like, it also handled queer stories in a really cool way where
01:53it was so under the surface and it made it so human, you know, which I think also was kind
02:00of
02:00like a moonlight scenario where we're taking these people in such a specific time and place
02:05and, like, letting them explore love. Right. What does SMUT mean to you?
02:14I'm going to try to make an acronym. SEXY.
02:17This is going to be in relation to, um, and to Ember and Ice.
02:22SEXY.
02:24MAGIC.
02:28UNIVERSE.
02:38I have no idea. What did I say? SEXY. MAGIC.
02:43UNIVERSE.
02:46UNIVERSE.
02:47TITILATING.
02:47yeah we'll do that titillating oh you very publicly shot your shot for Nightwing
02:54uh which was extremely fun to watch have you been a DC fan and what is it like to see
03:00fans
03:01instantly rally behind you especially the ones that say you have the face the talent and the
03:05butt I will be completely honest I when I saw like some fan art of you as Nightwing I was
03:12like
03:12blown away whoa like I I mean you never know if that's going to come to fruition or not but
03:18yeah
03:19I see like someone did you in the comic book style I was like I see it right away wow
03:24yeah I would I
03:25would love to play him I love DC I love um I loved all like comic books that were true
03:34to the source
03:35material um and I think you know there are a lot of good filmmakers who like bring their own
03:42style to these you know beloved um um comics that I think it would be really great to work with
03:49them
03:49you know I'm not fully set on Nightwing you know I'm open to other things um did you always want
03:55to be in like did is superheroes no always something that's been like I absolutely not
04:02it's just it's when really good filmmaker it's it's filmmaker driven so when like a guy like James Gunn
04:07um or Matt Reeves you know comes to comics it I think that's what draws me um and and I
04:16heard
04:16James Gunn is doing the the Teen Titans I know there's yeah but yeah James Gunn he's in love with
04:23you true or false Hudson is more like Ilya in real life and Connor is more like Shane I think
04:28me and you
04:29are both like Rose and I'm like Svetlana I just said me and you are both but I'm just I'm
04:37just
04:37parting ways that's so Svetlana for you to say um I don't know I mean maybe I do feel like
04:45Ilya I
04:45don't know I think that um I I'm I'm too sensitive or outwardly sensitive or don't have a lot of
04:52shame
04:52around emotion to be Ilya I could be a little cocky like Ilya yeah but beyond that it's like I
04:58think Shane and Ilya sort of share us you know a soulfulness that's kind of buried under all these
05:05you know walls and kind of um uh masks but I think I think underneath that what we both relate
05:12with both
05:13of them is you know the the heart and and their soul after wrapping heated rivalry you two got matching
05:20tattoos that say sex sales and if true how did that happen um I did I have a reason for
05:26coming
05:27up to Vancouver I just wanted to come see yeah come hang out am I not good enough right come
05:31on yeah I
05:31just I don't know why for a second I was like I have something to do up there I have
05:35nothing to do
05:36in Vancouver I was there so yeah I just went up to see um I just came up to see
05:42you we knew we wanted
05:43to get matching tattoos I hadn't gotten a tattoo in forever um and we were just shuffling through ideas
05:49and yeah I think you came up with sex but like we were both pitching ideas and then one person
05:55would like them the other person wouldn't and then when you said sex sales I was like oh we were
05:59sold that's the first idea you've had that's good I think it's honestly my most well done tattoo
06:03as well so that feels good the front of my shin pull in here zoom in true or false you
06:12ate a pound of
06:13beef of ground beef a day while filming heated rivalry true um Connor told me what his routine
06:20was and after I saw him in person um I asked him how he got to that size I thought
06:25he was taking
06:26illicit substances he wasn't he does it super clean sorry I mentioned illicit substances um but
06:33I have nothing to hide bring it on but he was so
06:37just like so I was like what are you eating freak uh I was like I'm eating
06:45and he just couldn't speak and he just kept doing that and I was like I think that means ground
06:49beef
06:50um you're like that level of capability is what I need and then Connor was actually the person who put
06:56me on to fiber because if you need to eat the protein you want to get you know iliac cheeks
07:01um and chests you need so much fiber just so your stomach doesn't shut down and you go into cardiac
07:08arrest and you get carried out from your your little workout on a stretcher with some you know
07:14pumped up pecs and a shut down fucking you look good digestive system it's really unfortunate if it
07:19ends that way yeah yeah I actually um I'm gonna one-up this true or false I actually think that
07:25we ate more than a pound of beef yeah because a pound of beef only has I think 84 grams
07:30of protein
07:30and you need a solid 200 if you're going through size and shape so sometimes I can eat two pounds
07:37of ground beef a day plus like 10 eggs yeah and so many salads I was having so much salad
07:42because by
07:43the end I got like gained 10 pounds so like when I started shooting I was like and by the
07:47end I was
07:48like 10 pounds heavier and it's because of ground beef yeah you you're very inspiring I'm glad that we
07:53had each other because it would have been really hard to be motivated if you know we were going
07:58back to our 12 hour days and then the gym and then like going back to our residence like below
08:02and it's
08:02really it's nice that I got to be like hi son let's go to gym and we would go from
08:09a fucking 11
08:09hour day skating lesson and Connor would go let's do legs and I and I looked him he's a madman
08:15that's how
08:15he has a butt he'll finish a skating lesson that takes four hours and then go legs now I was
08:21like what are
08:22you saying I okay I knew I had a responsibility to the people he's America's ass and I I take
08:31that
08:31very seriously romance readers are famously passionate about book adaptations did you feel
08:37any pressure being bringing a beloved story to life and how did you approach making the characters
08:41your own it's good I think to go into a project accepting that you know people might be disappointed
08:49especially with something like a book where everyone already has preconceived notions they've
08:53visioned they've envisioned these characters they've drawn these characters they've gotten tattoos of these
08:57characters like the love is already there so much that ultimately someone is going to be disappointed
09:03all you can do is is read the material as much as you possibly can yeah and um and respect
09:12it show the
09:13respect show the dedication and just hope that people you know connect with it and love it and
09:18see that enthusiasm I think we both had that level of whether you want to call it nihilism or not
09:23like people might just hate this people might hate your casting or they might hate my casting
09:28I'm not going to expect anything more and uh I'm just gonna do the best I can but you have
09:34really no
09:35metric of if people are going to be warm to your your take I really think at the end of
09:40the day all you can
09:40do is be really intentional give it a hundred and fifty percent yeah just go for it you know and
09:48luckily for us this worked out really freaking well
09:55Hudson we have heard rumors about a very serious multi-step korean skincare routine can you break it
10:00down for us not that lengthy yeah I always made fun of you for it too because I like honestly
10:06I'm just
10:06kind of jealous because you have really good skin uh when I was like yeah your skin routine and then
10:12it's actually not that long it's not that long it's okay I'm gonna tell you in the morning I use
10:17water to
10:18cleanse my face warm water and then I put on a glow toner but it's pretty dry it's not like
10:25I don't like
10:25when people have like do we like if I see someone it looks like they just wore a face mask
10:29I'm like
10:30why are you out right now like go go wipe that off and then come talk to me because I
10:34won't right now
10:34um and then so my toner and then I'll put on um a serum and then sunscreen and then sometimes
10:42instead
10:42of a serum I put on a moisturizer and then my pm routine is an oil cleanser you know to
10:48get out these
10:49blackheads to get the the gunk out um and then I'll either use like a CeraVe normal ass cleanser or
10:57I'll use like a pore shrinking cleanser that's their new that's their new slogan CeraVe normal ass
11:03cleanser I think that is I yeah I also and then like a pore shrink or a pore shrinking cleanser
11:10if
11:10that's my goal and then the same thing toner serum and then either a retinol or a salicylic acid and
11:16then I go to fucking sleep so I think everyone in the studio agrees that was a lot well I
11:23will
11:23also say I mean it makes sense you have flawless skin so and then when I take it off it
11:29just falls
11:30apart yeah he unhooks the he unhooks the clip back here in the back keeps it all up Connor yes
11:37story
11:38yes do you have a favorite spicy scene from heated rivalry and a favorite from ember and ice what makes
11:43those stand out for you my favorite spicy scene from ember and ice is actually a scene where dane
11:49is with two former lovers cassandra and elijah yep
11:58i need you to i need you to be here with me okay um dane has an interaction with uh
12:05two of his former
12:06lovers um after having been with finn for some time and uh yeah not to spoil but he he ends
12:15up
12:15realizing that what what really works for him isn't working for him anymore and it's kind of this moment
12:21of identity loss and you know what what pleases me isn't pleasing me the same i think that's really
12:27cool because it's also it's because it's cool because it's like sexy and spicy but it also is really
12:33revealing of the character and the connection and where he's at you know um and i think it's funny
12:38i think i remember dane saying something about um he's like he's like and then the next thing i did
12:43was i just had to come up with uh an excuse and then he's like he's like my friends i
12:48have bad news
12:50i have a lot from ember and ice but one is the lake scene where we kind of go in
12:56together and you
12:57kind of coax out of me without spoiling too much i think that one's just you know a lot of
13:02times
13:02like the intimacy before intimacy i think it has more of a charge in a way that one really got
13:08me
13:09um frothing at the mouth and heated rivalry favorite intimate scene there's one that was
13:16really fun to film do you remember filming the stair step scene when we're like kissing against
13:20the glass and our lips never come apart me and you were like do people do this do people i
13:26know
13:26it's always a fun balance right of like when you're filming um separate from like the audio space when
13:32you're filming it's like how much of it is fun tv and then how much of it is like is
13:40like true sex
13:41because at the end of the day you know you do have in real life people do have those those
13:45like movie
13:46moments where you're like you know you're like yeah yeah and then everyone on set was like oh
13:50yeah no we i've done that and then connor and i were like oh oh we usually fold our clothes
13:56place
13:56them down then go upstairs naked and go sex now sex now i'm robot plug me in true or false
14:05hudson's roommates once kept a mooning tally of how many times he flashed them do you know
14:13how many times i know that you i've yeah i remember this yep it's true it was one roommate
14:18um and i i mooned him 31 times what was his reaction when you moved him was he like hudson
14:28her poor name was chelsea i i've talked with her and chelsea has been like you can say my name
14:33and i was like so i've since talked about this since double consent uh double consent um and uh
14:39poor chelsea would just go i think her main reaction was like oh what's it all
14:47and it made me so happy where where is chelsea now and i i developed different techniques over the
14:54years um she's chilling she's got a cat that's like hanging off her walls um but i would go and
15:00i would do like a drive-by at all these different techniques and then she would bring like other
15:04you know um romantic interests home and then they're like what's this tally up on the board
15:10and they're like oh that's how many times hudson my roommate has mooned me and they were like would
15:15you just like kind of butt crack it or would you full so i had one where i would get
15:19pants low like
15:21i would de-pants and she would be unassuming like maybe on her phone on the couch and i would
15:26run by
15:27and jump in the air so i was like a like like a like a literal moon a literal moon
15:33but in fast
15:33motion sometimes i would just do the like oh drop something before we leave bend and i'm right there
15:39gotcha oh god
15:43yes no they they got very athletic but we need to clarify if you were gonna moon someone
15:48yeah a close friend chelsea is still my make it make it known that this is okay
15:52yep she got a do not moon people you don't know in places it's not okay hudson as an asian
16:01actor
16:01leading such a hugely popular queer romance what kind of stories or roles are you excited for
16:06more people to see you in going forward
16:10yeah i i wanna i wanna represent my my wasians out there you know um i've been declared do you
16:19know
16:19about this i'm declared the i think princess or prince of wajia me i mean i i sign off on
16:28it
16:28okay i think you he's the final stamp off guy for this so uh yeah i'm the i'm the ambassador
16:35of wajia
16:35as a fully as a completely caucasian yes but uh as as uh this um little wajian i am
16:44i hope to just do roles that aren't always charged with you know i'm happy to do roles that are
16:52you
16:52know race has something to to play in there but also i just want to be an actor and a
16:57lot of the
16:57times i just want to play parts where it's like i'm i'm just there and we don't need to go
17:02in my
17:02backstory or whatever it's just you know i'm playing with any other uh non person of color would play as
17:11well you know you're a person you want to be treated i'm a person love it baby on both heated
17:17rivalry and ember and ice you worked with an intimacy coordinator um why do you think that
17:21role matters on projects like this was there anything about the process that you think would
17:25surprise people wow i mean i think it's so um yeah that's a yeah that question is i mean it's
17:33so
17:33important i mean you you literally can't do things without that role um the thing that i think would
17:42shock people about the role of intimacy coordinating is it's not just about and this is what i learned
17:48from chayla originally and then also jamie doing this it's not just about the actual safety the
17:54boundaries monitoring what's going on what that looks like making sure everyone's okay there's also
18:01actually a conjunction of an artistic edge where you are like jamie with this you know was also the
18:08voice that was reminding us this is how long it's been since this happened you know you need to i
18:14need
18:14to hear that shiver or that i need to hear those um i need to hear that feeling through your
18:20wings i need
18:21to see that come about i need to feel that pleasure in this way so it's not always technical even
18:27though
18:27that's what i feel like is brought up a lot there is also an artistic sensibility to that job and
18:31that really promotes that conversation absolutely bring in the first ginger ale this is so fun
18:40we have canada dry we have schweps we have can you can someone give me a rundown of the brands
18:46no
18:46you're good right and we're gonna go i don't i've only named two from memory well how about this i'll
18:51hold it so we don't we don't give away anything yep that's my hudson that's my hudson
19:03that's not canada dry this is some shitty american ginger ale this is like schweps or like
19:11um yeah that's my guess if you said it's not canada dry why is it not canada dry canada dry's
19:17got more
19:17ginger in it and more bubble in it it's just subtle ginger yeah go ahead and it should be deep
19:24blindfolded
19:27you god we got you where is this imported from this this is this is no no way it says
19:37from frisco texas
19:39nope i don't i don't this is it changed it changed bring in ginger ale number two
19:47that is so embarrassing
19:50thank you so much this one was that one was canada dry what is this one
20:01you're my baby drink more okay this is cough syrup this is this is yellow snow what is this
20:13a pissy pineapple but that's the brand hudson i have to guess the brand
20:20that bye yeah this is schweps this one is schweps
20:29i am so happy that i'm not the one tasting these because if i was getting them wrong i'd feel
20:35like an
20:35idiot no i'm kidding it's stupid no you're not i mean they they really set you up give me another
20:45one do you have more bring me bring in how many more bring in the last it to me
20:53oh this one's a hard one thank you oh no
21:09that's um that's fever tree ginger um um beer hudson oh but what what what there's a there's a
21:21secondary flavor
21:26do you want to smell test too you want to do like no it's just ginger no but do like
21:30an aromatics test
21:34go full som vibes do you smell that oh it's hard to it's hard to smell it's
21:41fucking ginger pear
21:43fucking it's ginger yeah i'm gonna be honest he would never be able to understand you can't taste that
21:49flavor at all what blood orange good job you can't taste that at all you put food coloring in
21:56you didn't put no blood orange in there i will say i kind of like this one though that one
22:00sounds nice
22:01i like all of them but i guess the brand did i not you killed it when did you first
22:06realize you
22:07clicked and what are some of your favorite memories from working together um i would say our first
22:13face time outside of a chemistry read because at that point i was always shane he was always
22:17ilya but then when we first met over face time before we went to toronto um
22:24we had so many like so much overlap of movies we liked actors we liked um art we liked and
22:31similar
22:31approaches to how we you know like to perform um that i immediately knew i think we clicked there
22:38and i think that's saying a lot because i think some of our our interests can be pretty niche the
22:43fact
22:43that there is overlap is yeah amazing yeah and favorite memories i would say all our laughs on set
22:51being in muskoka um was really beautiful there was a lot of like lounging around um you know it was
22:59just great my favorite memories of working with you are also the laughs what's what's like an inside
23:04joke that we just died over the whole time um we had a storm the set that was also with
23:11oh yeah i would
23:12always be like storm the set but if we couldn't afford extras our idea was we would just like do
23:18like a cattle call we used to joke that like we um because we would have like airport scenes and
23:24stuff
23:24where there would be like you know for an airport you need like you need a bunch of people and
23:28we'd have like five people and i just imagined um i imagined jacob being like
23:34being like costumes get up there and everyone's like taking off their mics and he's like storm the set
23:40opening the garage and just like opening it up to the public how does it feel to accidentally launch
23:46a workout movement i can't i honestly still cannot believe that that was someone's takeaway from this
23:55you know i like i think i look a little too shabby i'm i'm in the process of gaining weight
24:00you know now
24:00uh yeah i was when you look you look freaking fantastic well bring it back to most of which
24:05just gracias de nada corazón de melón ah mi hermoso no esposo mi amor todo mi corazón
24:13um yeah i people people like our bodies let's just be honest about it people you know i care about
24:21my health
24:21i care about my fitness as do you um honestly watching the show is making us work out even more
24:28yeah so what drew you to doing a fey romanicy story and what was it about the script that hooked
24:33you for me it was exploring sensuality with with your voice you know that's the only tool you have
24:41and it kind of scared me a little bit and you know that there it was a really fun way
24:47to explore yourself
24:48it was fun it was actually fun and you know it's very demanding and it's well written i think in
24:53the
24:53booth the term winged hemingway came up you know fantastical hemingway because there was like war
25:03there's like this romance that's forbidden and it seems doomed uh in a lot of ways um and that was
25:12way heavier than i thought you know this would look like and it was really rewarding
25:17i the story just moves really well too um it was just written really well uh as someone who
25:25you know is not a big reader i think something like this would be really appealing to me um
25:30just the way it it cycles through the feelings it cycles through the years and point of view yeah
25:36yeah i just think it's really like almost physically well done why do you think mm romance resonates
25:41so strongly with women right now mm yeah we've we've both talked about this and kind of been intrigued
25:49by it um there's so many reasons there's so many reasons and then even just women you know there are
25:55straight women there are trans women there are um gay women like queer women it's it's um
26:01well that feels like a giant term to be like i know exactly why um you know there's like the
26:08element
26:08of you can live vicariously and you can feel safe um like with women this is just one opinion that
26:14i
26:14had never even considered or thought of um that i saw that i think you're alluding to which is if
26:20you
26:20are female um and you are you are taken out of the equation there's and you're there's a spectatorship to
26:31that there's like a there's a certain amount of separation that allows for safety you know like
26:37especially women um historically being put into a box in a certain way especially when it comes to
26:42sex and pleasure it feels like a nice separation to see sexuality and romance be lived out without
26:50um right female dynamic being yeah i i heard i heard someone online say a woman say that like
26:55when you see like a hetero um couple you know you default to like relating with or forced to sort
27:03of
27:03relate with the woman character um and then that comes with a lot of restriction and two and like
27:08imagination a lot of writers you know are writing very conventionally um which means a lot of
27:14outdated tropes um old archetypes and i think you know with getting to watch two men it's like they
27:20can kind of relate with this person in one moment they're empathetic to this person they're not forced
27:24into a box of here this is your person to relate with at the end of the day though we're
27:29both men
27:29i have no idea what it's like to be a woman um yeah and so y'all let us know
27:35yeah y'all tell us
27:37i think me because i would just be i'd be drinking i'd be somewhere i'd be like under a table
27:45yeah asleep naked but i will say you you're really freaking athletic and you're really strong and you
27:53know how to fight so if it came down to like a wrestling match between you and leather face freddie
27:58kruger i think you're taking the cake my boy i'm winning okay snack time
28:08me 100 percent yeah you have a little you have a tiny bit more reverence than i do um if
28:15something
28:15is overly serious i cannot help but laugh because i just become really like oh i become really aware
28:21of how do you do that kind of it's not that you left and now now i'm gonna leave
28:29bye connor will do the like the like it's like so serious he kind of gets a little take and
28:34then
28:34and i can't do his laugh do i do that do i do anything do i do a polly pocket
28:40hand
28:42i accept myself this is what we're rocking this we're rocking it i accept myself
28:48me oh oh yeah i'm i'm dirty you're like you're pretty clean i'd eat anything off the ground no
28:58not me i don't mind more than i am yeah well i just love youtube i love the little like
29:03video essay on this movie essay on this little actor have you learned this about genghis khan and
29:10i'm like wow there's so much to know heard are these book talk trivia things heaven eats ass i don't
29:18know
29:18yeah heaven eats ass is that it really what is it oh yeah okay okay okay this one's harder the
29:30rake
29:30and the cake the what the rake and the cake well you break up some some people together and then
29:38you
29:38ass yeah are these all gonna be ass related
29:41it they are for me oh right right oh i like i like that i like those i like those
29:53ones yeah i like
29:54the grump why teams why is this a love triangle thing mm ooh threesome it scares me a little foot
30:02in
30:02both jars of peanut butter if you know what i mean y'all make me nervous on twitter we're gonna
30:07react to
30:07some tweets you don't scare me connor's story you need to stop your face too smiley your ass too fat
30:14juicy your line delivery too good they'll kill you you really i mean you ended on delivering too good
30:19yeah you i i'm cool with that i feel good um i i whenever we read tweets i don't know
30:25if i'm supposed
30:26to like thank you or if i'm supposed to like yeah genuinely be like whoa i guess all of it
30:33kind of
30:33hudson williams's back dimples that's it that's the tweet oh i didn't realize i had these little
30:42back dimples but then i i saw the receipts and i saw my dimpled cheek back thing and uh we
30:50were all
30:51singing it yeah i was i was seeing it damn it for real i love whatever is wrong with y
30:56'all
30:56oh my cynthia and ariana fine i'm invested in heated rivalry not because of their giant bouncy
31:08but because it's a true yearner i'm a sucker for a good romance the yearning is is the thing i
31:16think
31:16that's that's probably the sexiest part for people honestly you want to know how we got these bodies
31:20you yearn enough your ass gets fat despite all the memes i have enjoyed people seeing
31:27that physical intimacy isn't just spice on top of the romance but a vehicle to explore relationship
31:32dynamics and character and also physical and emotional intimacy are different but connected
31:37things jacob talks about this and that was one of the first things i think he brought to us
31:44to try and explain his vision which was you know when you read the scripts when you read the pages
31:49it
31:49can sound very sex heavy but to know that the sex really is just the foundation of their relationship
31:56and how they connect um yeah i think that is i think that i think that's kind of you know
32:01for the first
32:02years of their life that's how they communicate that's where their relationship builds and you know
32:07that's not usually how sex is used in media yep meteor i need hudson williams to know that so
32:14many people imagine draw right and read about him getting pregnant including me is that crazy oh he
32:22knows and even comments on yeah mara key to rivalry updates pointed this out to me i know when i
32:27learned
32:27that about it's crazy i was like whatever floats your boat you know um yeah i mean i i think
32:34that's
32:34like i think that's in the deep fanfic side yeah i don't understand it but i'm like you know what
32:41you
32:41freaks you gung-ho you go get it you know if you can go get fictional me pregnant fictional me
32:47knock him
32:48up this is another one about my butt again y'all aren't ready for this one connor's story deserves a
32:56-o-t-y
32:57what's a-o-t-y mean connor's story ass of the i don't like this tweet it should be ass
33:03centric hey whoa
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