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00:11I think every child is born to do a certain thing.
00:19I knew I wanted to be a star.
00:27Just being on the stage, just looking out over a sea of faces when they're chanting, they're screaming, and I've
00:44wanted it because I wanted to be loved.
00:50That's the real truth. I wanted people to truly love me.
00:57A lot of people ask, who was Michael Jackson, really?
01:04I mean, he was a child star who became the most famous man on the planet.
01:16This is a man who changed the music industry.
01:20I mean, he is a musical genius.
01:25But he was also accused of abusing children and died without a cent to his name.
01:36I mean, this is the ultimate story of power, celebrity, and money.
01:47And now the battle is raging for the truth and Michael Jackson's legacy.
02:19That level of mega stardom is not healthy.
02:23People are not gods.
02:33Tonight, Jackson is wanted by police of multiple felony counts of child molestation.
02:41The Jackson machine just keeps right on rolling.
02:45People are not deserving of self-destliner.
02:47I mean, this is number of five throats.
02:57But I agree that he is not dé� 3.
03:02This is actually very difficult for people to look at things like protecting dogs and animals.
03:08That now he can rally and see the signs are done close to their背景.
03:15They're not going through this programmable feeling.
03:15Are you guys ready for me?
03:22Whenever you're ready.
03:27People don't know my brother.
03:28They never did.
03:29They thought they did.
03:31And I think it's important for the public, the world, to see the, I don't want to say the truth,
03:40but from a family member's perspective.
03:42And that's important to me, so you get it right and you understand, as opposed to reading nonsensical things in
03:51the media.
03:56What do you do mostly?
03:58I mean, you know, in your spare time.
04:01Sports.
04:02Messing around.
04:03Well, I go swimming all the time.
04:05I like swimming, you know, play basketball, catching lids, just do things, just swim.
04:14My memory of Mike is basically a child that was far older than his age.
04:26Mike was always just feisty.
04:31No, sit down.
04:37As young kids, we would have a photo shoot.
04:41He would stand there and then he would get out the picture and say, no, put Jermaine here, Jackie here,
04:46and I will be in the middle.
04:47And this is a little kid talking to his siblings.
04:54Northwestern Indiana is not like any other part of the state because it is solely industrial, one factory next to
05:00another for miles.
05:02The Negro population of Gary, Indiana is 45.8%, the highest percentage in any city north of the Mason-Dixon
05:09line.
05:11Growing up in Indiana, it was humble beginnings.
05:16My father, Joseph, worked in the steel mills.
05:20And we were a large family from a small home.
05:25It was two bedrooms.
05:27And in one of the rooms, the brothers slept, and there were six bunk beds.
05:31And my sisters and I, we slept on a let-out sofa in the living room.
05:39We were a family that loved music.
05:45And when Mike was around eight or nine, he would do riffs constantly.
05:51And no matter what you would sing to him, he would do it even better.
05:58My father, he saw them performing together.
06:03And he says, geez, he became their manager because he saw a bigger and brighter future.
06:15They used to do shows.
06:17What they called back then was the Chitlin Circuit.
06:20It was famous black artists, but they were performing for black audience.
06:26Don't be afraid.
06:27Don't be ashamed.
06:28We want black power.
06:30We want black power.
06:32We want black power.
06:39To perform during that period of time was very challenging.
06:44Based on the fact that we were kind of relegated to certain areas of our country.
06:49And not very welcome in some parts.
06:54But we learned how to deal with it.
06:57and had to bring down the barrier
06:59that they thought they'd put in front of us.
07:18ORCHESTRA PLAYS
07:31I had to kind of just look at him and shake my head.
07:35I said, my God, this kid is amazing.
07:38It was an exciting time.
07:41They wanted it so badly.
07:43And then finally, there they are, signed Motown.
07:46When I had you to myself
07:48I don't want you around me
07:50Those pretty faces always made you
07:53Stand up in a crowd
07:55The song won't pick you from the bottom
07:58Michael, he had something that nobody else had
08:02And his performances were meticulously done
08:07Watching their growth over their years
08:10Was sensational
08:13We've got some great guests
08:15The incredible Jackson 5
08:21One of the hottest recording groups today
08:23Is the Jackson 5
08:25The only American group to have
08:27Four consecutive number one records
08:30Kids nowadays don't know how big
08:32The Jackson 5 were
08:36They were our Beatles
08:37Our black royalty
08:40You had Beatlemania
08:42You had Jacksonmania
08:46Since the heyday of the Beatles
08:47Has the music world seen anything like the Jackson 5
08:50About to receive yet another platinum record
08:53But you have to give a lot of the credit
08:55To the original Jackson 2
08:57Mr. and Mrs. Joe Jackson
08:59I decided to deal with the boys
09:01As much as I possibly can
09:03And getting them prepared
09:04To be in show business
09:06They come to us originally from Gary, Indiana
09:08The Jackson 5
09:14It was just amazing
09:17To see this black family
09:20Post-segregation
09:21Who were so famous
09:25And that you could identify with
09:28Show black people
09:30That we can make it in America
09:43It's called Los Angeles
09:44The city of the angels
09:48People from all over the world
09:50Drawn by a city of limitless boundaries
09:53And one that offers unlimited opportunity
10:03Growing up in Indiana
10:04Mike would have this little projector thing
10:07That you put over your eyes
10:08And you would click it
10:10And it would show a different slide of L.A.
10:13He would say
10:13Oh, this is so beautiful
10:15I would love to live there one day
10:18So moving to Los Angeles
10:21Was simply amazing
10:24We were so elated and excited
10:27Just to see the beauty of the city
10:31And it was such a different life
10:36We moved to this huge mansion
10:39And my father just said
10:41I think this will be a perfect place
10:46And, you know, what my father said
10:47It goes
10:50Let's introduce Mr. Joe Jackson
10:52The father of the city
10:59Okay, we're going to find out
11:05Who's boss around here
11:07Do you have to ever discipline
11:09This lively group you've got here?
11:11I have a way
11:13You know, like
11:13When Randy don't do right
11:15We make him take out
11:16All the garbage or something
11:18Oh, that's fair
11:19Yeah, but what about Michael?
11:21Michael always does right?
11:24No, not all the time
11:25The way we discipline Michael
11:28Is sort of like
11:29We don't give him as much money to spend
11:32That's it
11:34You think it's a good profession for them?
11:36Yes, I'd like for them to
11:39I moved to Los Angeles
11:42To work for the family
11:44Out of Joseph's office
11:48When Joseph spoke to me
11:50About coming to work for the boys
11:52He presented himself
11:53As a really concerned, loving father
11:59Joseph grew up dirt poor
12:02Before civil rights
12:05And to take from nothing
12:07And build that act
12:09Was huge
12:10And all of a sudden
12:12Now he's living in a wealthy house
12:14In Encino
12:15He's got a Rolls Royce
12:17He really was chasing the American dream
12:25At that point
12:26They were portrayed
12:26As this happy, loving family
12:29But
12:31My experience
12:32Can't speak for anybody else's
12:34But my experience of what I saw
12:35That was
12:36That was the farthest thing from the truth
12:39I
12:40Went to high school
12:41With Michael's baby sister, Janet
12:44And Michael was also a very close friend
12:47When I would be there
12:49And Joseph would pull in
12:51You know
12:51The speaker or the phone would ring
12:53And it would be like
12:54Joseph's here
12:54And everyone's like
12:55Oh God, Joseph's here
12:56We weren't that, you know
12:58Savvy back then about this stuff
13:00But
13:01Knowing that there was just weirdness
13:06Our career
13:08Was very important
13:10My father made sure
13:12That we rehearsed every day
13:14Lock all the doors
13:15It's time to rehearse
13:18If you went out of step
13:19You get it
13:20Real bad
13:24He would oil you down
13:25Your whole ritual
13:26He would oil you down
13:29So when
13:29When the foot of the
13:31Of the iron cord
13:32Hit you
13:33It would just
13:34You know
13:35And your foot's all in your face
13:37Your back
13:37Everywhere
13:40He said
13:41If you guys ever stop sinking
13:42I'll drop you like a hot potato
13:47I found out later
13:49Joseph
13:51Had done some really awful stuff
13:54Joseph would put Michael
13:56In the closet
13:56In the dressing room
13:58In the dark
14:00And lock it
14:01So that he was
14:03He would do what
14:04Joseph
14:05Would tell him to do
14:08And
14:09Nobody figured out
14:11What was going on
14:18He wasn't as cruel
14:20As people think
14:21But
14:22Mike had a fear
14:23My father
14:23We all did
14:24Because we
14:26We felt
14:26Okay
14:27What did we do wrong
14:30He's going to discipline us
14:31And you were
14:32Kind of afraid of that
14:33It just
14:34Put something
14:35In your belly
14:36And you would say
14:38To yourself
14:39Oh no
14:40His eyebrows
14:42Would go up
14:43And his eyes
14:44Would turn
14:46A deeper green
14:48A deeper green
14:49Than they were
14:50And you knew
14:51He was angry
14:52Everybody would say
14:53I don't want to get in trouble
14:55Because Joseph's
14:55Going to strangle us
15:07We're right
15:07Almost in the middle
15:08Of a recording session
15:10With the Jacksons
15:11And we're going to
15:12Bring the boys in
15:13Right now
15:14All five of them
15:16Here they are
15:25Now I don't have to
15:27Give any introduction
15:28To these gentlemen
15:28Do I
15:29You knew them originally
15:31As the Jackson 5
15:32They're the Jacksons now
15:34They record on
15:35Epic
15:38This is really
15:39A special picture
15:40To me
15:42Both of our hair
15:43Was kind of big
15:43See his face
15:45Looks completely different
15:46So this was earlier
15:47I guess
15:47He still looks like
15:49A great looking kid
15:50You know
15:52When the Jackson 5
15:53Came to Epic
15:54They were a good
15:56Pop group
15:58But Michael
15:59Was so much
16:00The center of it
16:01The star
16:05He just wanted
16:06To be perfect
16:07In a way
16:08He wanted to be
16:09The best dancer ever
16:10Best singer
16:12Best entertainer
16:14He wanted to be
16:15A great
16:16You guys are really
16:17Riding a big high
16:18Now as far as
16:19Producing records
16:20And so on
16:21Do you think
16:21This is the peak
16:22Of your career now
16:23Or have you gone down
16:24A little bit
16:25Are you expecting
16:25Bigger and better things
16:26Well we're looking
16:27Forward to doing
16:28Other things
16:28Like producing
16:29Other people
16:30And producing
16:32Ourselves in the future
16:33And going into acting
16:34And that type of thing
16:46New York is the most
16:47Exciting city
16:48In the world
16:48But New York
16:49Has never seen
16:50Anything like
16:51The Wiz
16:52A new musical
16:53Motion picture
16:54Being made here
16:54That stars
16:55Diana Ross
16:58The Wiz
16:59Was the black
17:00Version of
17:01The Wizard of Oz
17:03And Michael
17:04Really wanted
17:05To be in that movie
17:10My father
17:11Didn't want him
17:12To venture off
17:13Into movies
17:15Because he felt
17:16It would break up
17:17The group
17:18And he would go
17:18In a different direction
17:20And he wanted
17:21To keep the brothers
17:22Together
17:22As he always said
17:24I want to keep
17:24My boys together
17:25But this is something
17:27That Mike saw
17:28He loved Opportunity
17:30And he went for it
17:42How did you feel
17:43When you heard
17:44You got the part
17:44In The Wiz
17:45And especially
17:46Playing with Diana Ross
17:47I was very happy
17:50I would talk to
17:51Diana on the phone
17:51I'd say
17:52You're going to film
17:52The Wiz next week
17:53Huh?
17:54Or next month
17:55She would say
17:56Yeah next thing
17:56I noticed
17:57I was in it
18:01Mike and I
18:02Were extremely close
18:05So we moved
18:07To New York
18:07Together
18:11And going to
18:12The set
18:13Every day
18:14He just
18:16Embraced it
18:17With great joy
18:18But most of all
18:19What he would
18:20Always say
18:21I'm learning so much
18:22Latoya
18:22You have no idea
18:23Hey fellas
18:24Is today today
18:25You're going to
18:26Help me get down
18:26From here
18:27Help you down
18:28What is going down
18:31In that hayloft
18:32You call a head
18:36Living in New York
18:38We were so used
18:40To being
18:41With family
18:43Being controlled
18:44By my father
18:46But yet
18:47You could do
18:47What you wanted
18:50It was so
18:51Wonderful
19:07Wonderful
19:07Is Michael there?
19:09Hi Michael
19:10Come on in
19:10You can come right in
19:11Hi
19:11How are you?
19:13You just walked in
19:14How are you?
19:15Michael this is
19:16Jane
19:16Me and Paul
19:16I'm sitting over here
19:18It's been a long day
19:20For you
19:20And you're unwinding
19:21Here
19:22You mean today?
19:23No
19:24We're all finished
19:24With the movie
19:25But I'm just relaxing
19:27Now
19:27Just hanging out
19:28In New York?
19:29Yes
19:29Studio 54
19:31When you hear the name
19:32Studio 54
19:33What does that do?
19:35Does your pulse quicken
19:36And your beats start moving?
19:37Yeah
19:37I'm ready to have a good time
19:39It's where you come
19:40When you want to escape
19:42It's really escapism
19:44Sure Michael Jackson
19:45You don't have it so bad
19:46What are you escaping from?
19:48I'm not escaping from anything
19:49It's just a change of pace
19:51Right it is
19:52It's a change of pace
19:53He doesn't escape from anything
19:54If anything
19:55He's one of those people
19:56Who very recognized
19:57Doing the Wiz
19:58And all the work
20:00That he had done
20:04And the growth
20:05That came with it
20:09Took him
20:10Mentally
20:11In a different direction
20:13Saying I want to do
20:15A solo album
20:23By Michael doing the Wiz
20:25He had a chance to meet
20:26Great composer
20:28Arranger Quincy Jones
20:34And Quincy
20:36Had work with Sinatra
20:37I mean
20:38The greatest music people
20:39Ever
20:44I called Quincy up one day
20:46I said Quincy
20:47I'm ready to do an album
20:48A solo album
20:49But
20:50I want a real good producer
20:52To work with me
20:54I said
20:55Can you recommend somebody?
20:57And he said
20:58Why don't you let me do it?
21:15I remember getting a copy
21:16Of Off the Wall
21:18And when I heard
21:20Don't Stop Forget Enough
21:21I was just astonished
21:23To hear
21:24Oh my gosh
21:26I said Michael
21:27This is going to be
21:30It's going to be phenomenal
21:32This is the album
21:33That's caused the storm
21:34Right around the world
21:36It's Michael's
21:36Off the Wall album
21:37And hopefully
21:38We've got Michael
21:39In LA
21:40On the phone now
21:41Let's have a sec
21:42Oh here we go
21:43Hello Michael
21:44Hello
21:45How are you?
21:49He's the first artist
21:50To have four
21:51Top ten singles
21:53With his Off the Wall album
21:54He keeps breaking records
21:55It's just amazing
22:04It had to happen
22:07I feel like I love a rock
22:09He had earned
22:11The right to be
22:13Michael
22:18He felt that
22:19It's now my time
22:41Let's get the mayor back here
22:43Yeah
22:44I'm rolling
22:46Hey guys
22:47What did you think of this?
22:48Were you ever afraid
22:48When you saw that big crowd?
22:50Never afraid
22:51Never afraid
22:52It's a lot of excitement
22:53And it's nice to see the fans
22:55All come out
22:56To greet us at the airport
22:58I think it's
22:58I think it's wonderful
23:01What do you have to say
23:02For Atlanta?
23:03I'll start here
23:04Love it
23:05I can't wait
23:06Tomorrow night
23:08I love it
23:09We love you Atlanta
23:11Love you very much
23:12Tomorrow night
23:12Everybody be out there
23:13We're going to do our best
23:14Have a good time
23:26At this point
23:27Michael really is
23:28Kind of the mainstay
23:29Of the Jacksons
23:29Has it always been that way?
23:33Yes
23:34Yes
23:35Michael has always been
23:36Sort of the star
23:36Yeah
23:37He's been highlight the most
23:38Because he's the lead singer
23:39And he's up front
23:40You know
23:41As a little kid
23:42We put him up front
23:43Because he danced so much
23:44And had so much energy
23:51I think my brothers
23:53Some of them felt that
23:55Once he do this
23:57He's never coming back
24:00He's going to abandon us
24:03And
24:04That was kind of
24:06Disturbing to some of them
24:07And then the others
24:09Were just
24:09Well let's see where it goes
24:11Let's see where it leads
24:19I remember the boys
24:20Being in the office
24:21And
24:22One of them
24:23Distinctly said
24:25If it wasn't for them
24:26Michael wouldn't be
24:27Who he was
24:28Because they were the ones
24:30And Joseph was the one
24:32Who made Michael
24:33Who he is
24:33And he basically
24:35Wouldn't be shit
24:35Without them
24:36And it was them
24:38That built him
24:39And Michael's just sitting there
24:40Listening to this
24:43And he sat there
24:44And he took it
24:45I just remember thinking
24:47How mean
24:48Why are you guys
24:49Being so mean to him
24:50I just
24:51I wanted to go in
24:52And like
24:53Hurt them
24:54Because they were
24:54Being mean to Mike
25:00I think Michael
25:01Had grown up
25:02Feeling
25:02Under Joseph
25:04That he wasn't
25:05Anything more
25:06Than a commodity
25:07And I think
25:08In that moment
25:09It crystallized
25:10For Michael
25:11That he was
25:11Nothing more
25:12Than a commodity
25:13To his brothers
25:13And I think
25:15It broke his heart
25:26So nice
25:27Do you
25:29Fine
25:30How are you
25:41If things got difficult
25:43For Mike
25:44He always had
25:46A very loving relationship
25:47With my mother
25:48It was a very
25:52Trusted relationship
25:55If something upset him
25:57She would always make sense
25:59Out of everything
26:15My mother
26:18Was a very
26:20Religious person
26:21She was a Jehovah witness
26:26And she
26:27Always thought
26:28If you had
26:29A personal relationship
26:30With God
26:31Then he would
26:32Show you away
26:44It's strange
26:45Being back here
26:46I haven't looked at you
26:47For many years
26:50Yeah it was such
26:51A strange time
26:52You know
26:52With Michael being
26:53Suddenly so famous
26:55And we're just
26:57Going door to door
26:58Trying to save souls
27:00Michael would say
27:01Hi my name is Joe
27:03That was his middle name
27:04So he wasn't lying
27:05This is my friend Christian
27:07We're here to talk to you
27:07About the wonderful hope
27:08Of God's kingdom
27:10And the people
27:11Would kind of stare
27:12They would think
27:14That guy really looks
27:16Like Michael Jackson
27:16You can kind of
27:17See it in their eyes
27:21The Jehovah's Witnesses
27:22Are millennialists
27:24So they believe
27:25That Armageddon
27:26Is coming any day now
27:27When God's going to
27:28Cleanse the earth
27:30Of all the evil people
27:31And so our job
27:32As Jehovah's Witnesses
27:33Was to go door to door
27:34And try to recruit people
27:36To save them
27:36So that they could
27:37Join our religion
27:38And then
27:39You know
27:40Hopefully make it
27:40Into the paradise
27:41That was going to come
27:44Michael had a tough upbringing
27:45And I think that
27:47He had a
27:48You know
27:48Fantastical view
27:49Of what he wanted
27:51The world to be
27:52And I think
27:53This idea
27:54Of God bringing a paradise
27:57Just was very appealing
27:58And I think that was
27:59A big part of his enthusiasm
28:01For going door to door
28:01He genuinely wanted
28:03To tell people
28:05We did missionary work
28:06Door to door
28:09You do 90 hours a month
28:11It was just
28:12A wonderful time for me
28:13Because it allowed me
28:14To get out into society
28:16And to see people
28:17I was totally deprived
28:18Of seeing people
28:20Open their doors
28:20I don't go to
28:21Other people's houses
28:22I don't know
28:22What they live like
28:23So when they would
28:24Open the door
28:24And say
28:25Come in
28:26I would come in
28:30I was 15
28:32When we started
28:33Hanging out together
28:35I think he felt
28:36Safe with us
28:37Because he had
28:38No other space
28:39Where he didn't
28:40Have something
28:41Some place
28:42Where people wanted
28:42Something from him
28:43Because of his fame
28:44We just liked him
28:46Because of who he was
28:47And that he was
28:47Part of this
28:48Joint community
28:49Where we were all
28:50Working to do God's will
28:55But at the same time
28:56I think he was
28:57Conflicted about
28:58Who he was
29:00Because even though
29:01He was very
29:02Devout
29:03I think Michael
29:04Had a lot of
29:05Ambition
29:07Around being
29:09Perceived as
29:11Very successful
29:12Very talented
29:13He was raised
29:14In this paradigm
29:14Where success
29:15Is how you get
29:16Validation
29:16Right?
29:17And from the time
29:18He was a little kid
29:19So I don't think
29:19He ever lost that
29:20Michael sometimes
29:21Would stand in front
29:22Of a mirror
29:22And say
29:23A hundred million
29:24A hundred million
29:25Because he was
29:26He wanted to sell
29:27A hundred million albums
29:28On his next album
29:29And I think that
29:31Really fed him
29:55Michael's ambition
29:56I believe
29:57Was to make
29:58The greatest album
30:00Ever heard
30:02But he also
30:04Knew the power
30:06Of motion pictures
30:10He wanted to use
30:11Video to drive sales
30:13I mean rock bands
30:15Have been doing that
30:15For years
30:19I'm not like
30:21I mean I'm different
30:27I'm a monster
30:39Michael I think
30:40This is going to be
30:40The Citizen Kane
30:41Of the videos
30:42I really do
30:43It's going to be
30:43The most revolutionary
30:44Thing in the history
30:45Of the videos
30:47You know
30:50I mean it's a new
30:51Art form now
30:52But I think
30:52This is leading
30:53The way
30:53I beat it
30:54And this one
30:54Is leading the way
30:59What a great looking kid
31:04Filmmakers
31:04They usually know
31:06When they have something
31:08And I knew
31:08We had something
31:11Music video
31:12Was new
31:12At that time
31:13And this is pre-internet
31:17And Michael's videos
31:19Were special
31:19You could tell
31:26Some prominent black musicians
31:28Are complaining
31:28That they are being
31:29Left out of the video market
31:31Specifically the music
31:32Television cable operation
31:33We are looking for
31:35A certain sound
31:36And a certain point of view
31:37Bob Pittman
31:38Is the 29 year old
31:39Whiz kid
31:40Who created MTV
31:41After a successful career
31:42As a radio station
31:44Program director
31:44We are not all things
31:46To all people
31:46We are cable television
31:48And what cable television
31:49Does best
31:50Is specialize
31:50One thing per channel
31:52So you know
31:53Exactly what you're getting
31:54When you turn on the channel
31:56It was almost impossible
31:57For a black artist
31:58To get on the cover
31:59Of any of the
32:01Major magazines
32:02Or TV shows
32:04Over Christmas
32:05I watched MTV
32:06I saw no black star
32:08Plenty of black stars
32:10But only black stars
32:11Who do rock and roll
32:13And MTV refused
32:14To play Michael's video
32:17He was outraged
32:19It was pure
32:20Blatant racism
32:21Plain and simple
32:24Prejudice is ignorance
32:27Music has no color
32:28I don't believe in that
32:29What I do
32:30I don't want it labeled
32:31Black or white
32:32I want it labeled
32:33It's music
32:34A few of us
32:36At Epic
32:37And the president
32:38Of CBS Records
32:39We all went up there
32:40And explained why
32:42They had to play
32:43Those videos
32:43They said you can't
32:45Continue
32:46With a program like this
32:48Without honoring
32:49Some of the best music
32:50That America has to offer
32:52And some of the best music
32:53America has to offer
32:55Is made and performed
32:56By black artists
32:58Period
32:59End of discussion
33:00They only could look
33:01At the bottom line
33:02And say
33:02You can't ignore these tracks
33:04And once they played
33:06Michael
33:08It took off
33:15Michael Jackson's album
33:16Thriller has been
33:17Topping various record charts
33:19So it should come
33:20As no surprise
33:21That Thriller
33:21Is number one
33:22On Billboard's chart
33:23Of most successful
33:24Pop albums
33:25Well the title song
33:27From that blockbuster album
33:28Now the subject
33:29Of the most talked about
33:30Music video
33:30To come along
33:31Take a look at this
33:35Thriller was an amazing
33:37Piece of work
33:38Like everybody loved it
33:41And it just
33:43Got bigger
33:44And bigger
33:44We love you
33:45We love you Michael
33:48Michael Jackson
33:50Was partying in New York
33:51The occasion
33:52For selling 23 million albums
33:54He exploded
33:57Everybody wanted
33:58A piece of him
33:59Everyone wanted
34:00To see him
34:02Michael Jackson's thriller
34:04Is now the highest selling
34:06Solo album
34:07In the history
34:08Of recorded music
34:09The number one artist
34:11In the world
34:14He is simply put
34:15Probably the most exciting
34:17And intense performer
34:18Of the decade
34:21You had something
34:23Within your records
34:24That everybody just loves
34:26Boy I couldn't say
34:29I just
34:30Created it
34:31Where do you think
34:32The gift came from?
34:34God
35:02Ladies and gentlemen
35:05May I have your attention
35:08I have your attention
35:10Right now
35:12I am saying
35:13For the last time
35:15As chairman
35:16Of the Walk of Fame
35:18If you do not back up
35:20This ceremony
35:21Will be cancelled
35:26Ladies and gentlemen
35:27Michael Jackson
35:30And welcome home
35:32To the Walk of Fame
35:39The Thriller album
35:40Was fantastic
35:41It was far exceeding
35:42Anyone's expectations
35:43About how big it was
35:45Going to be
35:46And Michael was becoming
35:47Sort of transcendent
35:48As a pop star
35:52But he was still
35:53Very idealistic
35:54Very devout
36:01I mean nobody
36:01Had been that famous
36:02In the Jehovah's Witnesses
36:04Yet
36:07It was very much
36:08At odds for the church
36:09For someone to be famous
36:10Because any kind
36:11Of notoriety
36:12Could be considered
36:13Controversial
36:14Potentially
36:15Even
36:15Even his
36:16Deciding to do
36:17The Thriller video
36:19The church
36:20Was very paranoid
36:20About any demon
36:21Influence
36:22And anything
36:23With demonology
36:23And so zombies
36:24Rising from the dead
36:25Or anything related
36:26To the occult
36:28Suddenly
36:28The hammer came down
36:29From the headquarters
36:31Of the church
36:31And so
36:33When he realized
36:34That this was going
36:35To be a problem
36:35For him
36:35He panicked
36:37He wrote
36:38Due to my strong
36:39Personal convictions
36:40I wish to stress
36:41That this film
36:41In no way endorses
36:43A belief in the occult
36:44And he had to put that
36:45At the beginning
36:46Of the video
36:46In order to
36:47Get the church
36:48To go
36:49Okay
36:49You can release it
36:52It really created
36:53Some tension
36:55On the one hand
36:56Fame brought him
36:57All this opportunity
36:59And I think he liked
37:00The adulation
37:01It was very validating
37:02But I think he started
37:04To feel handicapped
37:05By the fact that
37:05He couldn't pursue
37:06All his creative stuff
37:07That the church
37:08Was constantly
37:08Tightening the screws
37:10And saying
37:10No you can't do this
37:11No you can't do that
37:13And later on
37:14He just
37:15Made a decision
37:18He disassociated himself
37:19Which basically meant
37:20He was leaving the church
37:23You know
37:24I left the church
37:25In 1990
37:25And when you leave
37:27You know
37:27The church
37:28Completely cuts you off
37:29You know
37:30You lose your whole foundation
37:31You lose your family
37:32All of your friends
37:33You're really adrift
37:35In so many ways
37:37And when he left
37:38He lost the thing
37:39That had grounded him
37:40For so long
37:48How long have you
37:48Had this
37:49Beautiful beast
37:51Gosh
37:52It was during
37:53A little bit
37:54Before Thriller
37:54I had him
37:55For about
37:55Almost a year
37:57Almost a year now
37:58And this type of snake
38:00Is not dangerous
38:01Well I don't think so
38:03Some people
38:04Would
38:04Could it be dangerous
38:04They squeeze
38:05Yeah
38:05They squeeze
38:06They can really squeeze
38:07I think he's great
38:12What other animals
38:13Do you have
38:15After Thriller
38:16I saw a completely
38:18Different
38:19Michael Jackson
38:23I was his
38:24Personal cinematographer
38:26From 1981
38:28To 1987
38:32And when I first met him
38:34Michael was
38:35Really humble
38:39He was
38:40A true cool dude
38:43But
38:43After the Thriller album
38:46His personality
38:47Started to get
38:48A little bit different
38:49More
38:51Eccentric
38:53Game on six
39:05I could see
39:06He enjoyed
39:08Being around kids
39:19We're going to do
39:20We're going to do
39:20Our interview
39:21This has been
39:22Michael Jackson
39:23Interview show
39:33Out of nowhere
39:35Michael's good friend
39:36Was Emmanuel Lewis
39:40Emmanuel Lewis
39:41Was a star
39:42Of the TV show
39:43Webster
39:47And then one day
39:49Michael calls me up
39:50He goes
39:50I need you to
39:51Come over
39:53So I get there
39:55And he has
39:56Emmanuel with him
39:57They're dancing
39:59To one of his
40:01New songs
40:02That never ever
40:03Was released
40:04And he's
40:04Holding him
40:05Like a baby
40:14And I could see
40:16Michael had a
40:17Connection with children
40:21When a child
40:22Steps in the room
40:24I'm totally changed
40:26I feel their energy
40:27And I feel their spirit
40:31When I look in their eyes
40:33I feel healed
40:43What I saw
40:45What I saw
40:46Michael liked
40:48Kids because of the fact
40:50That they weren't
40:52Domineering
40:53They weren't asking
40:55For something
41:00You know
41:01Because you had
41:02Too many of these
41:03Producer bigwigs
41:04Coming over
41:04What I called
41:06And what he called
41:07Suits
41:08And when the suits
41:09Would come over
41:10It was a different
41:11Atmosphere
41:12Because
41:13They wanted something
41:16By then
41:17Michael
41:18Got so
41:19Big
41:19Now it's just
41:20A business
41:25Jackson's image
41:25Has been pressed
41:26Into plastic
41:27In a short six months
41:28Since they first
41:29Came on the market
41:30Michael Jackson
41:31Toys
41:31Dolls
41:32And other products
41:33Have been selling
41:33With a fury
41:35Jackson has become
41:36A mini conglomerate
41:37He is setting up
41:38Five separate companies
41:39To handle his
41:40Business interests
41:41Albums
41:42Video cassettes
41:43Concert tours
41:43Merchandising tie-ins
41:45This year
41:46Michael Jackson
41:47Is expected to earn
41:48More than
41:49Fifty million dollars
41:50Michael Jackson
41:51Made recording
41:52Business history
41:53Today
41:53By closing the deal
41:54On the Beatles
41:55Catalog
41:55From now on
41:56All those royalties
41:57Go to Jackson
41:59Michael Jackson
42:00Has a new manager
42:01Jackson has hired
42:03The vice president
42:03Of promotion
42:04For Epic Records
42:05Frank DiLeo
42:06To manage
42:07His booming career
42:08Formerly Jackson
42:09Was managed
42:10By his father
42:10Joseph Jackson
42:15Mike decided
42:16To end the relationship
42:18With my father
42:20And his thinking
42:22And his thoughts
42:23Were
42:23I need a manager
42:24Who's much bigger
42:25And better
42:26And someone
42:27Who really knows
42:28What they're doing
42:28In this big industry
42:32But I think
42:34The part that
42:35Became difficult
42:36Was
42:36The people
42:38That entered
42:39Into his life
42:40Because
42:41This business
42:43Can be
42:43Very overwhelming
42:45Cutthroat
42:46And people
42:47Will say
42:48And do anything
42:49To get
42:49Into your circle
42:51And to manage you
42:53And that part
42:55Of it
42:57Destroyed him
43:02Michael Jackson
43:03Has not a song
43:04On his lips
43:05But a bottle
43:06Of Pepsi-Cola
43:07This week
43:08He signed up
43:09For five million
43:10Dollars or more
43:11To promote Pepsi
43:12In concerts
43:13And commercials
43:14A lot of people
43:15Are asking
43:16Why would
43:16Michael Jackson
43:17Do commercials
43:18Well the reason
43:19Is that these
43:20Commercials
43:20Are going to be
43:21Just extraordinary
43:22They're using
43:23State of the art
43:24Technology
43:24They're going to be
43:25Creative masterpieces
43:26No expenses spared
43:29They asked me
43:31To direct them
43:32Because I had
43:34Success
43:36And a relationship
43:37With Michael
43:38We were going to
43:38Shoot two
43:39Promotional
43:41Commercials
43:42Even though
43:43Michael
43:44Confessed to me
43:45That he never drank
43:46Pepsi in his life
43:47We went
43:48Down there
43:49And started shooting
43:50And the plan was
43:51There was an explosion
43:53Michael would come down
43:54And dance
43:56The pyrotechnics
43:58Added too much
44:00And all hell
44:01Broke loose
44:41The scene was wild
44:42As hundreds of fans
44:43Tried to see
44:44Michael Jackson
44:44As he was carried
44:45Into a Los Angeles
44:46Area hospital
44:47With second and third
44:48Degree burns
44:49On his scalp
45:09I'll never forget
45:10The image of Michael
45:11Being taken away
45:12In the stretcher
45:12But smart enough
45:14To take his glove
45:15The famous glove
45:16And wave it
45:20But it was
45:21The beginning
45:22Of a dark time
45:23But it was
45:24But it was
45:46The beginning
45:46I remember
45:47In the early years
45:48Michael would just
45:49Come out
45:50And hang out
45:50It was just
45:51It was casual
45:52It was normal
45:55But at that point
45:57Michael started
45:58Going out
45:59A lot less
46:05Everybody was like
46:06Worried
46:08He would call
46:09All the time
46:11He would constantly
46:12Reflect back
46:13On things
46:14From his childhood
46:21I was always
46:21Trying to be perfect
46:25Trying to impress
46:26My father
46:30And I wanted him
46:31To be proud of me
46:32But he would never say
46:37He used to make fun
46:39Of me
46:41You are so black
46:42You don't look like
46:43My child
46:47You look delicious
46:48Boy you got a big nose
46:53You don't realize
46:54How much it hurt
46:57I wanted to just die
47:08When I went to the house
47:10After the Pepsi burn
47:13With Michael
47:14With Michael
47:14There were some times
47:15Where we would talk
47:17And he would come
47:19A little close
47:19And then I would say
47:21To myself
47:22What is on his nose
47:24And those were stitches
47:26Physically or visually
47:27That you could see
47:28That it had been
47:30You know
47:31Worked on
47:31I have a shot of Michael
47:34When he's leaving
47:35The Havenhurst house
47:36And that was
47:37What I saw
47:38The change
47:39You know
47:39The transition
47:40From
47:40The negro look
47:43To look like
47:44Something different
47:52It was heartbreaking
47:55Michael was trying
47:56To erase something
47:57Off of his face
47:59And it was
48:00All the nastiness
48:02And all the things
48:02That Joseph said
48:03About him
48:04But I think
48:04That set Michael
48:05On a very unhealthy
48:06Pattern and path
48:07For the rest of his life
48:09When it came to
48:11Facial reconstruction
48:13And his skin color
48:15But I don't think
48:17Anybody was prepared
48:18For how extreme
48:20It would get
48:22Michael
48:24Please turn
48:30Thank you
48:31Thank you
48:32Thank you
48:34Thank you
48:35Thank you
48:47Thank you
48:49Thank you
48:50Thank you
48:50Thank you
48:50Thank you
48:50Thank you
48:51Thank you
48:51Thank you
48:51Thank you
48:51Thank you
48:51Thank you
48:51Thank you
48:51Thank you
49:07Not since Thriller five years ago has the record industry been so focused on a single album.
49:13It's called Bad.
49:15It's Michael Jackson and Bad right here on Kiss FM.
49:23They were queuing all over America, snapping up the first copies of Michael Jackson's latest offering.
49:29But after five years of comparative seclusion, he's changed his image.
49:34It's a lot of talk. A lot of people are talking about it and how foolish he looks.
49:39The look, well, the new look is not too hot, but the album is great and he's a great entertainer.
49:48I was a fan of Michael Jackson since I was a kid.
49:52From, you know, the Jacksons, you know, I loved Off the Wall.
49:59I was a talent manager at the firm that managed Michael Jackson.
50:04And it was our job to manage his career and public image.
50:08I remember when I met him, like, up close and personal, and I was just surprised at, like, how white
50:14he was.
50:15I mean, and just almost like, almost like translucent.
50:19That was good. It's beautiful.
50:21What happened?
50:22You know, we were wondering if he was bleaching his skin or maybe it was makeup.
50:27Come back.
50:27Oh, he's making your face.
50:28I can remember one instance, and we had made this video.
50:32It was, like, multi-million dollar video.
50:34We had David Fincher, you know, directed.
50:36I remember at one point, he literally kind of broke down in tears and he was kind of ranting, like,
50:41I look like a monkey. I look like a monkey.
50:44And I was, like, thinking, what?
50:45I mean, he looked great in the video, but in his own mind, he, you know, he hated the way
50:51that he looked.
50:52And some people mentioned, I think it's called baking, where they, you know, could lighten him up throughout the video.
51:00I mean, that word, I look like a monkey.
51:04First, it was kind of shocking from him.
51:08I'm thinking, here's this huge, amazing artist.
51:13His own issues with self-image actually became a form of, like, self-sabotage with his career.
51:25I remember a lot of the black community felt like he had deserted them
51:33and thought that he didn't want to be black.
51:39And it was really difficult, because he was in the tabloids every week.
51:45He sort of became a joke.
51:48First problem is the sex problem.
51:51The problem being, we don't know what sex he is.
51:58The latest of the Michael Jackson rumors.
52:01Are Michael Jackson and his sister, Latoya Jackson, actually the same person?
52:06I'm here with Lars Bunquist of the IOFC IRA, the Institute of Facial Changes in Recording Artists.
52:13And I understand you had a grant for the last six years to study the facial changes in Michael Jackson.
52:18That's correct, Dave.
52:19And it's been a full-time job.
52:23To most of us, he's just wacko jacko.
52:26And if some of the press are to be believed and sleeps in an oxygen tank,
52:31often with a chimp, a snake, and an alien.
52:35When you think of Michael Jackson, you don't first think, what a great artist.
52:39What a definitive performer.
52:41You think, what a weird guy.
52:43Record stores have been reporting disappointing sales for the new album.
52:47Some have already begun taking down the bad promotional posters.
52:52The bad album had been released in the late 80s, but it hadn't been as successful as Thriller.
52:57We had to get him back to basics as an artist, as a singer, and get away from the wacky
53:04personas
53:05and the trappings and everything else and stuff.
53:15We had to make him more relatable to the public, to answer the questions that people had about him,
53:23about his skin, about bubbles, about everything.
53:28Because up to that point, Michael hadn't done a major interview.
53:32People hadn't heard him talk.
53:34People didn't know anything about him.
53:39And then Michael's managers had this idea that he should do an Oprah Winfrey interview.
53:58And the whole objective for that interview was to humanize him to the world.
54:06Oprah was calling every day, like five or six times a day.
54:09Nothing was left to chance.
54:12His whole career, his reputation, were dependent on this interview going well.
54:23Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Jackson.
54:26Hey.
54:27Oh, hey, hey.
54:29Well, how nervous are you right now?
54:33How what?
54:34How nervous are you right now?
54:36I'm not nervous at all, actually.
54:38You really aren't.
54:39No, I never get nervous.
54:41You don't?
54:42No.
54:42No.
54:43Not even for your first interview and it's live around the world?
54:46I thought you'd be a little nervous, but that's great.
54:49Because if you're not nervous, I won't be nervous.
54:51I just wanted to let the world know that.
54:55We were all watching it on TV and it was pretty eye-opening.
54:58I think it really was the first time that I can recall where he ever sat down for a length
55:04of time,
55:05answered the questions that we all wanted to know,
55:08and was really pretty candid.
55:10I was actually surprised how candid he was.
55:13The main thing in that Oprah interview that was talked about was his answer to his skin color changing.
55:21The color of your skin is obviously different than it was when you were younger.
55:26And so I think it has caused a great deal of speculation and controversy as to what you have done
55:35or are doing.
55:36Are you bleaching your skin?
55:37And is your skin lighter because you don't like being black?
55:41The number one, it's just the situation.
55:43I have a skin disorder that destroys the pigmentation of the skin.
55:48It's something that I cannot help, okay?
55:50But when people make up stories that I don't want to be who I am, it hurts me.
55:56So it is, it's a problem for me, okay?
56:00I can't control it.
56:01I'm a black American.
56:03I'm proud to be a black American.
56:08The black community was really relieved to hear that, you know?
56:12I remember people saying, oh, well, that's why it was.
56:15Of course.
56:16Of course, Michael wouldn't desert us.
56:18He has a disease.
56:20Makes me feel some of the pain that he's feeling because I can look in his eyes and I can
56:24see the hurt in his eyes.
56:26You know, he looks like he's so lonely and so hurt, you know?
56:29And it makes me want to just reach out to him.
56:33And it worked.
56:35And it really changed a lot of people's perceptions of him.
56:42It felt like Michael was back on top.
57:01My name is Rosabelle Smith.
57:05In 1993, I was working the sexually exploited child unit.
57:09A case had come in involving a young boy who was 13 years of age and that the perpetrator was
57:18Michael Jackson.
57:26We knew that it was going to be a huge case.
57:31You.
57:34You.
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