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The First 48 S29E13 A Troubled Mind H 264
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00:01This program documents actual homicide investigations.
00:05Criminal charges are often dropped or reduced,
00:07and all suspects shown are presumed innocent unless proven guilty.
00:22In the Turner Park neighborhood.
00:32A concerned father checks on his son after several calls go unanswered.
00:49They find the son lying on the floor in a back room, stabbed multiple times.
01:00Wake him up!
01:02He's gonna wake up!
01:04Go ahead and call Major Pan.
01:06Yeah.
01:06So we're gonna get the people out here to get all the evidences.
01:09Uh, no, no, no, no!
01:20For homicide detectives, their chance of solving a murder is cut in half if they don't get a lead within
01:28the first 48 hours.
01:49Reginald, yeah.
01:50Sergeant Nathan Schilling will lead the investigation.
01:54Contract with Dad, it's 10 o'clock this morning.
01:56We're walking up in the yard.
01:57Said he thought it was odd that the predictor never came out.
02:00He said, I called. No answer.
02:02Eventually, he said, at some point, I called Dad.
02:04Dad says, I'm on my way.
02:06Dad gets here, he's unlocked.
02:08They go in, kind of mill through the house.
02:10The contractor sees the victim laid on the floor, you know, a lot of blood.
02:14Quite a bit of blood.
02:17The victim, John Christopher Fender.
02:2157-year-old John Christopher Fender, known as Chris, was born and raised in Tulsa.
02:27He worked as an insurance agent and spent much of his spare time working on his home and cars.
02:33He leaves behind a large family, including his father and stepmother, sister, and several nieces and nephews.
02:43Victim is in this house.
02:44Okay.
02:46They got the warrant.
02:47The team secured a warrant to search Chris' home.
02:55And here is really where everything hurt, I believe.
03:06So, stabbed.
03:09Chris was stabbed more than 70 times.
03:18There's a lot of blood on the ground.
03:22Over here, there's a lot more.
03:26It is everywhere.
03:32These shoes, I believe, were a part of it.
03:35Oh, wow.
03:38And there's a knife that's sitting on top of that sink down there.
03:44A second knife and a bloody t-shirt are discovered in the kitchen trash can.
03:50Is there a camera supposed to be in the house?
03:52There are.
03:54Chris has surveillance cameras inside and outside of his home.
03:58I'll have to take it.
04:00It's the passcode law.
04:02The system will have to be accessed by the cyber unit.
04:06Thank you guys.
04:06Thank you so much.
04:11I got the contractor here.
04:12He said he's willing to come down if we need to interview him.
04:15Dad is very, very emotional.
04:18And I understand.
04:19You know, you walk in and find your son like that.
04:22The suspect is Blake McDonald.
04:25Chris's father told responding officers that he believes Chris's ex-boyfriend, Blake,
04:30may be responsible for his son's murder.
04:34This is Blake.
04:35He's about six foot tall, about 109 pounds.
04:38White male?
04:39Yes.
04:40Approximately 29 years old.
04:42These two have been fighting a lot this past year.
04:45This Blake guy had been living there.
04:47Supposedly he had been kicked out, but he apparently moved back in.
04:52Also, there was a check for well-being out here last night.
04:55Last night, around 9 p.m., an officer was dispatched to Chris's house after a clerk at a marijuana dispensary
05:02reported that Blake had come into the store and made threatening statements.
05:06Did he make contact with the victim at 9?
05:09Nope.
05:09Did he knuckle the door?
05:11Tried to go around back to look.
05:13Didn't make contact with anybody.
05:15All right.
05:21My name is Nathan Schilling.
05:23I'm going to be the lead detective on this case.
05:25Schilling speaks with Chris's father.
05:27This is my partner, Detective Warren.
05:29He's already spoken to you.
05:31You've been around some and I know it.
05:35But I doubt he's ever, ever seen anybody more pissed than I am right now.
05:41Ever.
05:42The doctor totally understand a lot.
05:45Totally understand why.
05:47I broke 67 bones.
05:49I've had knives stuck in me.
05:50I've been hit with lightning twice.
05:52I've towed three cars, 140 miles an hour stooping me when I was young.
05:56And brother.
05:58All the I've been through doing.
06:02You don't.
06:03You don't.
06:07You don't.
06:08We can't leave with this.
06:09You don't.
06:10I'm sorry, man.
06:10I'm sorry.
06:11You really are.
06:12This isn't how it's supposed to be.
06:14No.
06:14Parents aren't supposed to bury their kids.
06:17I'm so sorry, sir.
06:19I wish I had been there.
06:23I'll say this and I said it to the other police officers.
06:27He's been making me nervous the last two weeks.
06:29Chris's neighbor speaks up about Blake.
06:32I never had a conversation with him because he was always a little bit strange.
06:35I saw him at the gym a couple weeks ago and he was talking to himself and being weird and
06:39pacing around.
06:40I wasn't even using any equipment.
06:41I'll talk to anybody, but I just kept my distance with him.
06:48Then.
06:49Suspect card.
06:502006 Lincoln sedan.
06:52Maroon in color.
06:52AXR.
06:53The team gets the tag number for Blake's car.
06:57It checks back to Blake's name, mother's address, and this is mom's address.
07:02Someone else already went out there and made contact.
07:06Officers spoke to members of Blake's family, but no one has seen or heard from him.
07:11You got guys moving around right now, kind of looking for the car.
07:14Yes, sir.
07:14A statewide bolo has been issued for Blake's car.
07:17We got a tag number, which is good.
07:19We just gotta look at it.
07:27One hour in.
07:28It's been kind of progressively getting worse over like the last month.
07:31Another neighbor approaches Schilling about Blake's behavior.
07:35I watched him just last week.
07:37He sat out here just walking back and forth into the carport.
07:39Just yelling and talking to himself and sitting there having a full-blown argument with nobody.
07:44There was something definitely wrong with him.
07:46I don't know exactly what it was, but he definitely needs some help.
07:50All right.
07:52So I think my partner already said you'd be willing to go downtown and visit with us?
07:58Yeah.
07:59Chris's contractor agrees to be interviewed at headquarters.
08:02We can go together if you want.
08:05You come with me?
08:05Oh, yeah. Yeah.
08:07Chris's father also agrees to talk downtown.
08:10We'll talk to you each individually and get your story.
08:12I don't have a story.
08:14And I know who's done it.
08:15And you know who's done it.
08:19Dad immediately thought that Blake was the person that did this.
08:23So we're leaning towards that.
08:24We don't necessarily know yet.
08:25We'll find out.
08:27We're going to find Blake.
08:38Blake Matthew McDonald.
08:4029-year-old Blake McDonald, an aspiring actor from Tulsa, works the night shift at a home improvement store.
08:47He has no prior convictions.
08:49It would appear that, I mean, there's really no other suspect other than his significant other at this point.
08:55We still have to dot our eyes and cross our T's because we don't want to jeopardize anything.
09:01So we're going to holler at the victim's dad and the contractor that was working in the yard.
09:06Try to get a little bit more of the backstory.
09:08We'll go get this rolling.
09:12I know we spoke a little bit out there and we got a kind of summary of what you saw
09:17and what happened today.
09:18Detective Reggie Warren starts with Chris's contractor.
09:21You were over the house today doing some landscaping, concrete work, stuff like that.
09:27How long have you known the day for?
09:29Ten years.
09:31Maybe longer than that.
09:35What kind of guy would you describe him as?
09:39Good person, kind person, very witty.
09:46You know, he had a real good sense of humor about him.
09:49Great guy.
09:50Great guy.
09:51Okay.
09:52Today you got to the house.
09:54Mm-hmm.
09:54But what time did you get there?
09:56I got there this morning around 10 o'clock.
09:59And I just got my toes out and went to work.
10:04Chris had not been out of his house all day.
10:08So I called him.
10:10Okay.
10:10You didn't get any answers.
10:11I didn't get any answers.
10:13And then I done some more work and I called him again.
10:18Got no answer.
10:20So then I called his dad and I said,
10:23Hey, have you heard from Chris?
10:25I can't get a hold of him.
10:27I said, his cars are here, but I hadn't seen him all day.
10:30He said, that's strange.
10:31Something's wrong.
10:32I'll be there and we'll check on him.
10:34He was about to put the key in the door and I said,
10:36Hey, why don't you try that door and see if it's locked first?
10:39And when he opened it up, something told me for sure then something's not right
10:44because Chris does not leave his door unlocked even when he's in the house.
10:51So then I hollered for Chris, didn't get no response.
10:54And I turned the corner to go into the office and on the door frame there was just covered in
11:01blood.
11:04I went around and I noticed he's laying there on his back.
11:08And that's when I ran out of the house and I said, I'm going to call an ambulance.
11:15So just kind of describe the relationship between Chris and Blake.
11:21I guess the word would be tumultuous.
11:24Uh-huh.
11:24They were in a relationship.
11:26Uh-huh.
11:27I know they were having lots of arguments about different things.
11:30Chris had kicked Blake out for breaking and drugging.
11:34Uh-huh.
11:34And cheating on him.
11:36Uh-huh.
11:38I feel like probably if anybody was to do it, it would be Blake.
11:59I didn't like Blake.
12:02He's just straight.
12:10Always pacing, talking to himself.
12:14Very disturbing.
12:15That's not normal.
12:17I really appreciate you coming in.
12:19Yeah.
12:23I feel for his dad.
12:24His dad's never going to be the same.
12:26I feel for his dad as well.
12:27I feel for all these guys.
12:31Chris.
12:32In the next room.
12:33I knew Chris was dead.
12:37I knew it.
12:39Chilling.
12:40Speaks with Chris's father.
12:42Yeah.
12:43Just...
12:44Sometimes you just know when something's not right.
12:47I knew Blake was going to kill him.
12:52But I always thought Chris could protect himself.
12:56Chris was a father figure to him.
12:59So is Blake considerably younger than Chris?
13:02Yes.
13:0330 years ago.
13:07He started to help and he started to guide him.
13:10Blake had no friends, no relationship with the father figure.
13:14Very little relationship with his mother.
13:17But he always had these...
13:20He talked crazy in his head.
13:22Did Chris ever express any concerns about his behavior to you?
13:27Yeah.
13:29He told me...
13:31He's constantly patient.
13:34Talking to himself.
13:37He's a...
13:37He needs to get some mental help.
13:41Chris is always talking to me about he's wanting to help him.
13:44He's hoping that he can talk to him and he'll listen
13:49and kind of mentally straighten himself out.
13:54He took on a project, Chris did, if you will.
13:58He's got a good heart.
14:00How long have, uh...
14:03Chris and Blake known each other?
14:04Well, it has to be he was 19.
14:08Blake was 19?
14:09Yes.
14:09He says Chris met Blake 10 years ago.
14:13And I don't know how they met.
14:16So there's no one else that lives there besides Chris and Blake?
14:22Blake, yes, that's sometimes.
14:24Blake's there sometimes, sometimes he's gone?
14:26Chris has kicked him out, okay?
14:28He had to call his clothes in the car.
14:29He's been gone.
14:30When was this?
14:31He says Chris asked Blake to move out three or four months ago.
14:35So at some point he let him back in though,
14:38because it sounded like Blake's been around the last couple of weeks.
14:43Yeah, he's been there off and on.
14:45He was sleeping in his car.
14:47Chris wouldn't let him in.
14:49Are you aware if either of them ever mess around with any kind of drugs?
14:53Yeah, Blake all the time.
14:54Not Chris ever.
14:56Okay.
14:57I mean, obviously our goal is to go find Blake at this point.
15:00And, um, I appreciate you coming down here and visiting with me.
15:17Four hours in.
15:18Talking to officers of the scene, they told me that a call had come in last night from the dispensary
15:24here south of downtown.
15:26Blake had been in there and the worker called in at like nine and said that he had made some
15:34homicidal and suicidal statements.
15:36They rattled her.
15:38Pablo made contact with her, got her to come downtown and talk to us.
15:49Hello.
15:49Hi.
15:50I'm gonna go on a limb and say that one of my partners talked to you about what this was
15:54about.
15:55Mm-hmm.
15:55Okay.
15:57Tell me what happened to the best of your recollection, all right?
16:01Okay.
16:04Um, he came into the dispensary.
16:07He was moving, like, very erratically.
16:10Like, he's been like that the past couple of times he's been in the store.
16:14Like, I recognized him when I pulled his name out.
16:16He sketches me out a little bit.
16:18He said he needed dime cards and then he started talking about how he was going to go kill someone.
16:29And he said at one point he was going to ax someone.
16:34He said something like, you're going to see this on the news tomorrow.
16:37And that was when I was like, I have to call the police.
16:56It took me, like, 20 minutes to make the call because we were busy with other people.
17:06Did it sound like he was going to go and do something to more than one person?
17:12No, because he made it sound like he was going to hurt himself, too.
17:16Like, he was going to either kill himself or he was going to die somehow.
17:22Like, I'm going to die, too, or I want to die tonight.
17:27Okay.
17:28Well, thank you for calling.
17:30I know this has to be hard for you.
17:32It's, uh, not an everyday occurrence.
17:36Hmm.
17:37All right.
17:38We'll, uh, get you out of here.
17:44That girl's in shock.
17:46She was scared to death.
17:47She is.
17:48She feels real bad.
17:49Her boss is like, I can get you a video.
17:51Detective Pablo Zuniga pulls up surveillance video he collected from the dispensary.
17:56That's him getting there.
17:58He's running in.
18:00Blake arrives at 8.22 p.m.
18:05So he's walking.
18:06He's incredibly agitated.
18:09All kinds of movements everywhere.
18:12This isn't sped up or anything.
18:14This is his real speed.
18:16He's whacked out.
18:19The clerk is saying that he's very agitated and angry and just making statements about wanting
18:25to hurt people with an axe.
18:29He mentioned that he was also going to die or kill himself.
18:38He does, like, a double gun move to his head right there.
18:46Over here, he starts making stabbing motions to his own neck.
18:52Poor girl's like, I just want to get you out of here.
18:58Those are the shoes that's in the house with the blood.
19:06That's pretty good.
19:09And here he's premeditating.
19:11I'm going to go.
19:12Oh, yeah.
19:13This might be one of the most premeditated murders I've had.
19:19That's it.
19:22Blake leaves the dispensary at 8.27 p.m.
19:27And then his vehicle hits flop, going westbound on Admiral Harbor, right at 2103.
19:32At 9.03 p.m., 36 minutes after Blake left the dispensary, his car was picked up by license plate
19:38cameras driving away from Chris's house.
19:41I wonder if he went home and then he killed him, and then he fled the scene.
19:47The employee from the dispensary called in at 20.52.
19:50According to her, it was about a 20-minute time lapse.
19:53He gave his address.
19:54Officers went by the house.
19:56Body cam footage from yesterday.
19:59McNeil pulls up body cam from the officers sent to check on Blake.
20:07This officer's checking the perimeter, trying to get in contact with someone at the house.
20:11And nobody's answering the door.
20:12I'm thinking, our victim's in the house dead already.
20:15But this officer doesn't know.
20:17I mean, there's no reason for him to think anything's going on in the house.
20:20He walked to each side of the house, looked over the fence.
20:26Calls place.
20:27He knocked multiple times.
20:29I mean, there's no reason for him to do anything more.
20:35He got there really right at 2101.
20:3921, close to 2102.
20:41And his vehicle's hitting the flood down the street at 2103.
20:45So I think that's when he's playing the scene.
20:48The officer arrived at the house one minute after license plate cameras captured Blake's car leaving the scene.
20:54So they barely missed him.
20:56Barely missed him.
20:57And so, is it possible it could happen in that, that's a small window?
21:03I think it had to happen in that window.
21:05If he's got the shoes on at the dispensary and they're clean, he's not covered in blood.
21:12I think his phone data will tell the tale.
21:15Yeah.
21:15This waiting on AT&T.
21:17McNeil sent a warrant to Blake's phone company requesting his location records.
21:21We should hopefully get some data hopefully by tomorrow.
21:25Nice.
21:26Hopefully.
21:27Hopefully.
21:32Seven hours in.
21:34The suspect called at 359 AM.
21:38He said that his roommate just tried to stab him.
21:41Dispatch informs the team that Blake called 911 eight hours after the murder from near Stringtown, Oklahoma.
21:48It sounds like an hour and a half, two hours?
21:51Two and a half hours.
21:51Two hours.
21:52Not too long.
21:53Stringtown is about 125 miles south of Tulsa.
21:59Tulsa police.
22:01Um, me and my boyfriend got into some sort of oprogation.
22:06Like, he tried stabbing me.
22:10I drove away to, you know, get the fresh air.
22:15I was in shock.
22:36I was in shock.
22:46to report i'm imagerying like tulsa and springtown right now okay so do you plan on coming back to
22:54tulsa i don't have a car i hit a deer i'm on the side of the highway uh walking to
23:00springtown
23:01all right like what i'm going to do i'm going to put this in and see if an officer or
23:06a supervisor
23:07no problem a supervisor called blake but he didn't answer i wonder if somebody may
23:15came in contact with that car i already called them zuniga reached out to the local sheriff's
23:20department and asked them to look for blake's car their assistant chief called back and said
23:25if we run into the car we'll give you a call back but their dispatch said according to their records
23:30they had no nobody out asking for help for hitting a deer or anything last night
23:38he called the police last night and said that his boyfriend tried to stab him
23:44to me i feel like the call is self-serving i would argue that you know he just called to
23:50try to give himself some sort of self-defense claim eight hours in the team still has no leads
23:56on blake's whereabouts i would be concerned for the safety of others at this point
24:01talking to witnesses he's got some abnormal behaviors sometimes there's medical issues for that and other
24:08times it's drug induced and then sometimes which is probably more common than not a combination of
24:16the two you know there's a there's a lot of uh struggles with both of those in society and and
24:22when someone that has some mental health issues exacerbates it with drug use then you know it's kind
24:28of a tempest one hour later so margo doing what margo does she did a offline search on
24:44blake and found out that a deputy down outside of kiowa ran blake crime analyst margo hayne bell
24:52discovers that around midnight last night a deputy found blake's car on the side of the road in
24:58pittsburgh county oklahoma so that's probably 100 miles south of here the deputy said yeah the car
25:06was disabled parked on the side of the road they found him walking down the highway with a laceration
25:12to his face blake says he hit a deer the deputy gave him a ride to kiowa and dropped him
25:19off the
25:19convenience store blake got a ride from the deputy four hours before he called 911 from stringtown
25:25to report that his boyfriend had tried to stab him stringtown's probably another 30 miles down the
25:32highway you know if blake had really been assaulted the first opportunity he comes in contact with law
25:38enforcement you know when you think it might be something important to tell them but deputy said
25:43when he asked blake what happened to his face blake said the the deer kicked him in the face so
25:49only
25:50later to decide that maybe it's in my best interest to try to get ahead of this and and and
25:55at least put a self-defense story up so i think it's pretty clear that it's just trying to cover
26:01his tracks when he makes that phone call then
26:10so according to phone stuff he's somewhere in texas blake's phone location records finally come in
26:18somewhere at dallas fort worth airport area somewhere in there that was at 902 pm blake's phone was last
26:26picked up by cell towers near dallas four hours ago they're hoping to do to fly to afghanistan
26:33we called dallas fort worth police department airport police and they're checking their terminals
26:37but i think there's hotels around the terminals this place is so huge there's a lot of different areas
26:45he could go a lot of a lot of ground to cover so certain styles is going to reach out
26:49to some
26:49federal agents and see if they can't help us and figure out where he went awesome thank you
26:58the unfortunate part is he might have already hopped on the flight
27:10the next morning all right thank you so much sir
27:13okay of course bye pretty important news we have some contacts down at the fbi and they were able
27:21to check the flight itineraries for my suspect and it would appear he is on a flight currently from
27:28dallas to jfk and has a connecting flight on to paris obviously you want to snatch him before
27:36he leaves the country blake's flight is due to land at jfk airport in new york
27:41in two hours i try to get this warrant knocked out really quick so that when they land they'll board
27:47the plane and take him into custody
27:52one hour later so uh got a warrant issued five million dollar bond since he was trying to flee
27:57the country oh mars what that's what i'm talking about hopefully the port authority up in new york will be
28:05able to pick him up as soon as he lands and uh we're gonna go talk to the family hopefully
28:10as
28:31as soon as we hear something we'll let y'all know
28:43as shilling and warren leave chris's family
28:481400 miles away at jfk airport blake's plane has just landed
29:03so
29:20I'm sorry, Blake, how are you?
29:27I see you, I think.
29:31Put all your stuff right there, all the stuff.
29:33Yep, we're right there, right here.
29:34Chance running back there.
29:36Port Authority police officers take Blake into custody.
29:54Back in Tulsa.
29:58He's in custody.
29:59They're emailing me what they have.
30:01All right, let me just run in there
30:03and tell them real quick.
30:07See, I just had to try to leave.
30:09He's in custody.
30:10He got him.
30:11They got him up there.
30:12They got him on the plane.
30:13I don't know the story yet, but we'll hear it.
30:16We got some work to do.
30:18We'll talk to God.
30:26Later that afternoon.
30:27There's quite a bit of evidence that he had with him.
30:29His clothing he was wearing, and he had two backpacks
30:32of stuff.
30:34Blake will be held in New York until he can be extradited
30:38back to Tulsa.
30:39We may try to go up there and take an opportunity
30:42to interview him, but eventually he will be brought back
30:45to Tulsa and have to answer for what he's done.
30:49with just over 24 hours left in the first 48, the team must now
30:54wait to hear Blake's side of the story.
31:11Eight days later.
31:12Well, we just landed in New York City, so me and Pablo, this is the first for us.
31:18Schilling and Zuniga arrive in New York City, both for the first time.
31:23Sergeant Schilling is going to talk to the suspect tomorrow.
31:26I'd like to just kind of touch base with him, let him know that we are investigating
31:32it.
31:33There's obviously two sides to every story.
31:35And right now, you know, we don't really have either side.
31:38We just have the physical evidence to it.
31:40He got booked into Queen's Central Booking, and then after that, he ended up getting transferred
31:44to Rikers Island.
31:45I hear about it in movies, probably never thought you were going to be getting to go there.
31:52It's all downhill from here, Pablo.
31:56You've peaked.
31:57You've peaked way too early.
31:58Yeah.
32:00So this is my first time in New York City, and it's one of those places I think is kind
32:08of like a bucket list place for a lot of people.
32:10Detective White, who's our local tour guide, he gave me enough to do to fill up a weekend
32:15for a week or two.
32:16But we don't have that much time, so if we get the opportunity, I'd love to see the World
32:20Trade Center.
32:21It's kind of the one thing that's really on my list.
32:26Two hours later, while we wait to talk to Blake.
32:39Older people talk about where they were, like when JFK was assassinated or Elvis Presley
32:43died.
32:44But for me, one of the biggest significant events was 9-11.
32:47I was actually in training, driving around Tulsa with a senior police officer, and all
32:53this stuff's going on in New York, and it's just, you know, now, gosh, 23 years later,
33:00I'm getting to come here and kind of see it for the first time.
33:06I'll do a hot dog.
33:07I want a hot dog, too.
33:08I want a hot dog, too.
33:09I want a hot dog, too.
33:10Okay.
33:10Thank you, sir.
33:13Man, it's good.
33:16There's five buildings I can see right now that are all bigger than any building we have
33:20at this.
33:22And that's just this side of the street.
33:24That's wild.
33:25So we're going to go over to Rikers at 11 and holler at Blake.
33:31It's a place that's, I don't know, a bit intimidating.
33:36It's like, you know, it's not Alcatraz, but if you talk about jails that people have heard
33:41of.
33:42Yep.
33:43That's one of them.
33:45Yeah.
33:49The next morning.
33:50So we're on our way to Rikers now, and we're going to go meet with Blake and let him know
33:56that we're interested in his side of the story, and if he decides to talk to us, great.
34:01If not, we'll, you know, go with what we have.
34:07Nathan Schilling.
34:08Nice to meet you, brother.
34:08Nice to meet you as well.
34:09N.Y.P.D. will escort Schilling and Zuniga across the bridge to Rikers Island.
34:19Hey, Blake.
34:21I am Sergeant Nathan Schilling.
34:24Also, Oklahoma.
34:25This is a partner all over Zuniga.
34:29We just wanted to let you know that we are interested in what you have to say, and I'd love
34:35to hear your side of the story.
34:51Okay.
34:56Do you have any questions for me about anything at this point?
35:02I don't know.
35:03All right.
35:07You know, it's a little anticlimactic.
35:09He immediately said, I want my attorney.
35:12But he starts pointing at his face, at the cuts on his face.
35:16So he's trying to tell me something without telling me something.
35:19But ultimately, you know, he chose not to tell us.
35:23Unfortunately for him, there's a mountain of evidence against him.
35:26So whether he talks or not, it's going to be a hard case to beat.
35:34Two hours later...
35:35Is that everything up in the conference room?
35:37All right.
35:38Schilling and Zuniga meet with Port Authority detective Michael McDaniels to collect Blake's belongings.
35:44Were you actually on the plane when he got arrested or...?
35:47Yeah, yeah.
35:47Oh, nice.
35:48Did you think he was surprised or shocked or...?
35:51I wouldn't say he was really surprised.
35:53He kept his head down, didn't really talk.
35:56He was very cooperative.
35:57At one point, I don't remember the exact wording, but somehow he uttered, uh, he stabbed me.
36:06There was another interaction with him when we were in the cells.
36:08He said, detective, I said, I have a question.
36:10I said, sure.
36:11He said, uh, did he die?
36:14I hear a guy saying, I have a warrant for murder, did he die?
36:17I said, all I can tell you is that you have a warrant for murder out of Tulsa, Oklahoma.
36:23He said, okay.
36:29So, this is the bags.
36:33This is the clothing.
36:35We were asked not to go through it, so we didn't even open it.
36:38Okay, excellent.
36:39Blake's luggage will be searched for possible evidence back in Tulsa after the team has secured a warrant.
36:45I think that's everything.
36:47Thanks so much for that.
36:48No problem.
36:52This morning was not quite what we hoped for,
36:55but this was a good trip.
36:58I'm glad we came to New York.
37:00It's pretty spectacular.
37:01Great place to visit, but there's no place like home.
37:13One week later.
37:15Blake got brought back on Thursday, so he is now at the Tulsa County Jail.
37:21I was able to get a search warrant for the bags that Blake had with him on his flight.
37:26I, in the check bag, ended up finding a kind of a military style like K-Bar knife.
37:34I don't see any blood on it.
37:36I don't know.
37:37There's nothing that gives me reason to believe that this was involved in it.
37:41And also found a tomahawk style axe.
37:47So, you know, again, it doesn't look like it was involved in the actual incident.
37:52But the fact that the witness from the dispensary said that he said he was going to go axe somebody,
37:57it could play a role in the investigation.
38:01I have some DVR footage I've also been able to review.
38:03The Cyber Crimes Unit was able to access Chris's surveillance system
38:08and sent Shilling several clips of Blake inside the house at the time of the murder.
38:14So he pulls into the driveway.
38:17Twelve minutes after leaving the marijuana dispensary,
38:21Blake arrives at Chris's home.
38:23For whatever reason, it doesn't pick up the initial him walking in the house.
38:28This is literally two minutes after he pulled into the driveway.
38:35It would appear that he's already had an altercation with the victim.
38:39And he ended up back outside somehow.
38:45He's coming back in the front door and he's already bloody.
38:50Then he pulls the knife out and goes back to where our victim was found.
38:56You can see him over here a little bit.
39:01It's almost like he's talking to him.
39:14It would appear that Blake took a shower after.
39:18You know, we definitely have self-defense cases.
39:21You know, you have people get into a fight and someone pulls out a knife and stab someone once, twice,
39:26three times in quick succession to get away.
39:30And then that person dies.
39:31You know, that's a little bit understandable.
39:35But to stab someone at least 71 times, numerous stab wounds to the chest, to the back, to the back
39:44of the head, that's not consistent with a self-defense claim.
39:48I think in this case, there's no question that Blake was going to kill Chris.
39:54He's saying that before it happens.
39:57So he has lost pretty much any self-defense claim.
40:01He's going over there with the intent to stab him.
40:04And I think the evidence would support that.
40:23He's saying that he's talking about him.
40:34He's going over there with the intent to stab him.
40:36Eight months after Chris was killed, his family gathers to remember him.
40:44We had some good times with Uncle Chris.
40:46We miss him, don't we?
40:48Yes, we do.
40:50He was funny, wasn't he?
40:51Yes.
40:53Chris was just a real kidder.
40:56He loved to joke.
40:57He loved to laugh.
40:58He worked on his cars.
40:59He kept an immaculate yard.
41:01He was always meticulous about everything, whether it was artwork or decorating.
41:07He always liked to improve things.
41:11He just had a soft spot, too.
41:14A soft hard.
41:17And it's just unfortunate, you know, that he got hooked up with Blake.
41:23He just wanted to use Chris.
41:25Chris was loving.
41:27I think at the beginning, it was a boyfriend-boyfriend relationship.
41:32But later on, I think it became, I'm trying to nurture him.
41:37He came from a bad home, you know, and I can make it better kind of thing, and I can
41:42help him.
41:43And, you know, he, I mean, for a long time, he just took advantage of my brother.
41:49I mean, we all worried Blake would do something.
41:53I kept trying to get Chris to kick him out.
41:57And Chris kept telling me, he says he'll heal himself.
42:00And I said, that's not your problem.
42:02Your problem is letting him stay there.
42:04You need to get him out of that house.
42:08I'm sorry I couldn't protect him.
42:09I'm sorry I couldn't change things for him.
42:13It was just very sad.
42:15And, um, he didn't deserve, I mean, nobody would deserve that.
42:18But my brother didn't deserve it from just trying to help somebody.
42:26I wish we could turn back to him.
42:28But you can't.
42:32I just don't want him to be forgotten.
42:34I don't want my brother to be forgotten.
42:41I don't want my brother to be forgotten.
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