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00:00You threw the bottle at the windshield
00:01and you broke the windshield.
00:03Out of self-defense.
00:04Like, he's trying to make it seem like it's my fault.
00:06It's not my fault.
00:07If I ask you to take me home and you're
00:09trying to make me stay in a car, that's disrespectful.
00:12It wasn't my fault at all.
00:14The bottle didn't throw itself at the windshield.
00:18Perfect.
00:19This is Judy Justice.
00:39Tiffany George is suing her friend's ex-girlfriend,
00:43Jamila Blackman, for vandalizing her car,
00:47loss of income, and basketball training sessions.
00:50Court coming to order?
00:51All rise.
00:54Have a seat, please.
00:56Hello, Judge.
00:57Case 4051, George v. Blackman.
01:00You're welcome.
01:01Ms. George, is this the first time
01:03that you've met the defendant?
01:04Second.
01:05When was the first time?
01:06When we tried to mediate the situation.
01:09When was that?
01:10About a month ago.
01:11Where was that?
01:13At our courthouse in Cincinnati, Ohio.
01:16And what happened?
01:17It didn't really go so well.
01:19And they filed a continuance because we couldn't
01:22come to any type of agreement.
01:23Got it.
01:24And other than that, you've not met her before?
01:26No, ma'am.
01:26OK.
01:27So this is how I put together what your complaint is.
01:32It is your complaint that the defendant vandalized your car.
01:36Yes, ma'am.
01:36And you had allowed this young man, who was a student at a place
01:43where you teach?
01:43He was my student.
01:44And off to college now?
01:47Yes, ma'am.
01:47You had made an arrangement with him so that he could use a car that you had for his use
01:55in exchange for tutoring, teaching your son basketball?
02:02Yes, ma'am. Basketball training.
02:04How old is your son?
02:05Fourteen.
02:06And this young man's name is what?
02:08Brandon Miles.
02:09And when did Mr. Miles start using your car and training your son?
02:14He was using my car in exchange for training starting May 9th.
02:17He used it prior to that and paid for it.
02:20When did he start using it?
02:21I want to say about January.
02:23I have like his payments and like from his cash apps he would pay me $30 a day for the
02:28car
02:29because I normally rent it out on Turo.
02:31So since he's my student, I didn't have him do it on Turo.
02:33I've been with him since he's been in high school.
02:35He was my office aide when he was like 15 years old.
02:38So I trust him.
02:39I know him.
02:39He's 20 now or he's 21 now.
02:41So I trusted him with the car without having it through Turo.
02:45And he was using it every day?
02:47Yes, ma'am.
02:47Since January?
02:48Yes, ma'am.
02:49But starting in May, he wasn't paying you anymore
02:52and he was doing it in exchange for training your son.
02:55Right, since he was on break from college.
02:57Now what I gather is that this young man, Mr. Miles,
03:01was involved in a relationship with the defendant.
03:04Yes, ma'am.
03:05They had an argument and it is your claim that during that argument,
03:08when they were in your car, she damaged your car.
03:11Correct.
03:12She damaged your car to the extent that it couldn't be used.
03:15Correct.
03:16And that's what the case is about.
03:17Right.
03:18You weren't there, so Mr. Miles was there.
03:21Yes, ma'am.
03:21Mr. Miles, would you stand up, please?
03:24I'd like you to keep your voice up and tell me
03:27when this incident happened with the car.
03:29Uh, it was June 28th.
03:31At what time of the day?
03:33The time of when it happened was around 7 or 8 in the morning.
03:37Where were you?
03:38Queen City in Cincinnati.
03:39Had you spent the night at the defendant's house
03:41or had she spent the night at your house?
03:43I went to her house, like, I think, like 11 o'clock the night before.
03:47Did you go to her house at 11 o'clock and stay over until the 28th?
03:51Uh, yes, ma'am.
03:52So you slept the car?
03:53I didn't sleep there, no ma'am.
03:55It just...
03:56What did you do there?
03:57Uh, more so I was, uh, waiting to get my, um, phone and keys so I can leave.
04:02She had snatched them from me.
04:03When did she snatch them?
04:05I would say around maybe 12-ish, 11, like, the time when I got there.
04:09On the 27th?
04:11No, I believe it was the 28th and the 29th, so it was going into it.
04:14Just a second.
04:15Did this incident happen on the 28th of June in the morning?
04:19No, it was the 29th.
04:20So you got to her house on the 28th?
04:23Yes, ma'am.
04:23And she snatched your keys?
04:25Yes, ma'am.
04:25I assume you snatched his keys because you didn't want him to leave.
04:28He was at my house longer than that.
04:30He came in, I fed him, I cooked for him, all that.
04:33Okay.
04:33He was there longer than that. He's lying.
04:35Okay.
04:35So I'm asking you now, move forward.
04:38Did you take his keys?
04:39Yes, I did.
04:40At about what time?
04:42This was probably 1, 2 in the morning.
04:44He was there for the longest.
04:46And why did you take his keys?
04:48We was arguing about something, and I tried to talk to him before,
04:50so he won't leave to make all that noise in my mama's house.
04:52And he was still making noise, so I said,
04:54you want to sit down and talk?
04:55And he kept making noise.
04:56So I gave him his keys back, then I took him back.
04:59Then I took him back.
05:00What do you mean you gave him the keys and you took him back?
05:02Uh, we was fighting over the keys, basically.
05:04And this was between 1 or 2 in the morning?
05:06Yes, ma'am.
05:06He wanted to leave?
05:07Yes, ma'am.
05:08What were you arguing about?
05:09I thought...we was talking about...
05:11Since I came in talking about his auntie,
05:12and I said stop talking about her, because I still...
05:15That's why it was my exact words, sorry for my language,
05:17and he got mad.
05:18I said, you can't get mad at that when she disrespect me through the fullest,
05:20and I still have respect for her.
05:21You're talking much too fast for me.
05:24Okay, so you want me to slow down?
05:27I want you to slow down.
05:29I said...we was arguing about me saying I still...talking about his auntie.
05:35Who was she talking about?
05:36Oh, she talking about my cousin.
05:38Oh, cousin?
05:38Your cousin?
05:39Yeah.
05:40And did you know why she wasn't happy with your cousin?
05:43They had a fair share of, I guess, disagreements.
05:46Okay.
05:47And is that what you were arguing about?
05:48Uh, honestly, I was gonna leave before that even was the cause.
05:52What's he lying?
05:56So I'm walking away, and once she realized she wasn't getting the keys,
06:00that's when she decided to go back and bust the windows.
06:02With what did you crack the window?
06:04It's me picking up the hospital bottle.
06:06I threw it, like, on the ground thinking it was gonna hit the ground,
06:08not knowing it's gonna hit the windshield.
06:10He's trying to make it seem like it's my fault.
06:11It's not my fault.
06:21Tiffany George claims her friend's ex-girlfriend, Jamila Blackman,
06:27owes for vandalizing her car windows with a hot sauce bottle.
06:31Now, what happened at 7 o'clock in the morning, sir?
06:34Uh, that's around the time when she busted the window.
06:36Well, tell me what happened.
06:37Uh, well, she had the car because I had walked.
06:40Eventually, once I accepted it, I wanted to get my keys.
06:42I finally had found my phone, so I was good with my phone.
06:45But, uh, once I accepted that I wasn't getting my keys,
06:48like, I was drained, I was tired, I had a long day.
06:50So I just started walking because I was ready to get home.
06:52And, um, eventually, like, my body gave out,
06:54like, my ankle and stuff was hurting, like,
06:56and I, like, just gave out.
06:58I kind of, like, stayed on the basketball court for a couple hours,
07:00and then eventually she called me and was like,
07:03uh, where you at, whatever, and I'm like,
07:05can you bring the car down here?
07:06Like, because I just, my body had the energy, basically,
07:08to finish the walk home.
07:09So I went through all the shenanigans and all that for her to,
07:12I guess, get there finally.
07:13And then she pulled up, like, somewhere close to where I was at.
07:17I was at a basketball court, which is on Queen City.
07:19And, like, right over, the street over,
07:20it's, like, a hair salon,
07:21which is where the windows got busted up.
07:23And then once she get there, I told her, like,
07:25I need my keys.
07:27And she offered to give me the car keys and not my house keys.
07:30And I let her know, like, I need both.
07:32You see me? She didn't give me my house keys,
07:33she just gave me the car keys.
07:34And I told her, I'm like, I wanted both.
07:37So I just walked off.
07:38And I guess she realized that, like,
07:40now me having the car keys, she's stranded, too.
07:42So she get out the car, she, like, uh...
07:44So she drove the car?
07:45Yeah, she drove the car down there.
07:46Go ahead.
07:47Yeah, so once she realized that I had the car keys
07:49and now she's stranded, she, like, got out the car,
07:52like, I guess trying to fight for the keys to get them back.
07:54I'm just, like, walking away, like, with my hands up.
07:57Because I ain't want to, you know how that looks,
07:58if I was to be, you know, I ain't trying to...
08:00I be trying to de-escalate the situation.
08:02So I'm walking away.
08:03And once she realized she wasn't getting the keys,
08:05that's when she decided to go back and bust the windows.
08:08How did she do that?
08:09Um, I'm hearing now with the household's bottle.
08:11I didn't, I didn't see it physically, but I heard it.
08:13But now that I know it was a household's bottle, so...
08:15So you weren't in the car when she broke the window?
08:18No, ma'am.
08:19How far away were you from the car when she broke the window?
08:23I wasn't that far. I'll not explain it,
08:25but it was to a point where I can at least hear,
08:26hear the bust out of the window.
08:28It was farther than anywhere in the room?
08:30It was a building, like, separated.
08:32Like, the car was on the backside of the building.
08:35Like, when I walked away, I walked around the building,
08:37and I was walking down.
08:38So you couldn't see the car?
08:40No, I couldn't see it. I couldn't hear it, though.
08:42So you heard something?
08:44Yes, ma'am.
08:44Did you go back to the car?
08:46I did. I had to call her mother to come get her first, though,
08:49because I didn't want to even deal with it.
08:51Go ahead.
08:52I, like, looked around the corner,
08:53seeing, like, the car was busted,
08:55and then I, like, walked off and, like, called her mother, like, type.
08:58And did her mother come and get her?
08:59Yes, ma'am.
09:00Did you wake your mother up?
09:02My mama was getting up for going to work anyway.
09:04So he didn't wake your mother up?
09:06No.
09:06When she came to pick you up,
09:07how long did it take before she got there to pick you up?
09:11Look at me.
09:11How long did it take before your mother got there?
09:14She got there quick.
09:16Probably five minutes, five, three minutes.
09:18We live up the hill.
09:18And did you get into your mother's car?
09:21Yes, ma'am.
09:21Did you see Mr. Miles?
09:24Yes, ma'am.
09:24He walked to the car.
09:26He was talking to my mama.
09:27My mama gave him the keys to the house.
09:29Your mother gave him the house keys.
09:31Yes, ma'am.
09:31So now he had the house keys and the car keys.
09:34Yes, ma'am.
09:34And which windshield was busted out?
09:37Um, to be...
09:37Look at me.
09:38Which windshield?
09:39To be honest, the windshield was already broke
09:40before I even actually...
09:42Just a second.
09:42Which windshield was broken?
09:44The front windshield part was already cracked.
09:47The front...
09:47The answer is the front windshield.
09:49Yes.
09:50Okay.
09:50Because you drove the car there to the place where the salon is.
09:55Uh-huh.
09:56And you didn't drive the car there with a crushed windshield.
09:59Yes, the window was not cracked.
10:00No.
10:01You said it was cracked.
10:02The windows was already cracked before he...
10:05I only...
10:05When...
10:06Before I even kicked him, when we...
10:08Before you broke the window, you say it was...
10:11The windows was already cracked.
10:12Was already...
10:13I'm gonna finish my statement.
10:15Go ahead.
10:16Before you broke the window, it was already cracked.
10:20Yes.
10:21Perfect.
10:25I want you to tell me, with what did you crack the window?
10:30A hot salt bottle.
10:32Show me how big it was.
10:33The hot salt bottle was like this.
10:35Okay.
10:36What is it made of?
10:38Glass.
10:39Where was it?
10:40On the seat with me, because I was eating chicken.
10:42Where did you get it from?
10:43The house that I cooked for both of us.
10:45He ate his already.
10:46Yes.
10:46Okay.
10:47But you brought yours into the car?
10:49Yes.
10:49Yes.
10:49How come?
10:50When he had left to walk...
10:52My mama had put us out because he was making too much noise in my mama's house.
10:55Okay.
10:55At what time?
10:56This was now...
10:57It was already 4-something in the morning.
10:59Okay.
11:00So at 4 o'clock, your mom put you both out.
11:02Yes, ma'am.
11:02We both get in the car.
11:03We're sitting there talking.
11:04We're still arguing about the same thing.
11:05He decided to get out the car and walk.
11:08He walked all the way down the hill.
11:09I'm still sitting in the car.
11:11He walked all the way down the hill.
11:12He called my phone like, you ain't gonna come get me.
11:14I come get him the first time.
11:15We pulled back up at my mama house.
11:16I guess he decided not wanting to be in the car with me.
11:19He got out again.
11:19Walked down the hill.
11:20This time he fake called me and said he twisted his ankle.
11:22So I'm driving down there to get him off Queen City.
11:25I get down to Queen City.
11:26We get in the little parking lot.
11:27I pull up.
11:28He walk over there.
11:29I'm on the driver's side.
11:29I said, you gonna take me home?
11:30He said, yeah, if I gave him his keys.
11:32So I gave him his keys.
11:33I said, you can come back.
11:34He walked away and said, this is driving.
11:35I said, look under the seat.
11:36You will see your house keys.
11:37It's stuck under the seat when I was driving.
11:39I took him apart out of anger.
11:41Slowly.
11:42I took him apart out of anger and I put him on the side of the seat.
11:45I said, the keys are still in the car.
11:47If you come over here and see it, just take me home.
11:49I'm begging him on the phone.
11:50Them were crying, asking him to take me home.
11:52He didn't want to.
11:53So we fighting over the keys.
11:55Now we outside of the car fighting over the keys.
11:56We pulling it and everything.
11:59This part, he yanked it out of my hand to where he scratched my hand.
12:01And I was bleeding and I walked back to the car.
12:04He followed me to the car.
12:05This time, over there, we still fighting over the keys.
12:08As me fighting, I actually kicked the windshield out of self-defense.
12:13As he walking away after he grabbed his keys,
12:15I'm still on the phone asking him to take me home.
12:17He's still on the phone.
12:18He said, no, I'm not taking you nowhere.
12:19You're gonna stay in the car.
12:20I said, I'm not staying in this car and it's damn near hot as in here.
12:22I'm sorry for my language.
12:24So he's still saying, I'm not taking you home.
12:26As me picking up the hot sauce bottle, I threw it like on the ground,
12:29thinking it was going to hit the ground,
12:30not knowing it's going to hit the windshield.
12:32Like, everything, like, he trying to make it seem like it's my fault.
12:35It's not my fault.
12:36If I ask you to take me home and you trying to make me stay in a car
12:39on Queen City, knowing I need to get home to my baby,
12:41that's disrespectful.
12:43All I ask you, you call me down here to get to him.
12:46I ain't nobody tell you to decide to walk none of that.
12:49You chose to get out that car as a grown man and walk your down that hill.
12:52It wasn't my fault at all.
12:55The bottle didn't throw itself at the windshield.
12:58Yep.
13:02My brain, I guess, didn't put two and two together
13:05that that wasn't the same car.
13:07Because even after, they called me after they had it
13:09and said, hey, the VIN numbers don't match.
13:12And so then I noticed the wrong Prius is still on there.
13:15Oh, my God, you noticed the wrong Prius.
13:17I hardly believe every other word that's coming out of your mouth.
13:31Tiffany George has accused her friend's ex-girlfriend, Jamila Blackman,
13:37of vandalizing her vehicle, resulting in lost wages for her rental car business.
13:42So if the bottle didn't throw itself at the windshield,
13:45then you threw the bottle at the windshield and you broke the windshield.
13:48I had a self-defense.
13:49I didn't hear self-defense.
13:50Yes, I did.
13:51I said it and it said to him.
13:52Yeah, I didn't hear self-defense.
13:54I heard what you said, but I didn't hear self-defense.
13:55Yeah, I said it.
13:56I heard anger.
13:57Self-defense.
13:57I heard what you said, self-defense.
14:01I didn't hear self-defense.
14:02I heard that you were angry.
14:05OK.
14:06Do you have a bill for the windshield?
14:07Yes, ma'am.
14:08I'd like to see it, please.
14:17This is the windshield and the driver's side window, too.
14:21I got the pictures if you want to see the pictures.
14:23I'd like to see it.
14:32And this little crack that's in the windshield is from, like, a firecracker, 4th July.
14:36It doesn't...
14:37A little bitty hair.
14:39Did you have the windshield fixed?
14:41No, ma'am.
14:42Why not?
14:42Because I'm still paying the car, no.
14:44So I didn't plan on not renting it out,
14:47didn't plan on having to come up with extra money to pay for it.
14:49Yep.
14:50So where's the car?
14:51It's sitting at the shop.
14:52Since June?
14:53Yes, ma'am.
14:54This car was in an accident.
14:56What is this?
14:56That front part of the car, somebody else had a deer in it.
15:00It had nothing to do with the windows.
15:01The windows aren't cracked or anything.
15:03I'm not asking you...
15:03But yeah, it had been in an accident prior to Brandon taking it, so...
15:07So the car looks substantially damaged.
15:10Yep.
15:11It is damaged right there.
15:12Mr. Miles, stand up.
15:15This car looks like it was substantially damaged.
15:18Here.
15:19Correct?
15:20Yes, ma'am.
15:21Do you know when that happened?
15:22That was before I had got the car.
15:25Yeah, he didn't do it.
15:25That was...
15:25Don't...
15:26I'm not asking you anything.
15:28That was before you took the car in January?
15:31Yes, ma'am.
15:32If you're paying a car loan, you're supposed to have insurance, madam.
15:35And if you have insurance, why didn't you pay to have that fixed?
15:39That's dangerous to drive around in that.
15:42Why didn't you have the car fixed?
15:44So I had a renter prior to.
15:48You had what?
15:48There's somebody that rented the car prior to that hit a deer in it.
15:52I don't care if they hit a deer.
15:54So he had insurance on it.
15:56What?
15:56The person that was renting the car prior had insurance on the car.
16:00So...
16:01No, no.
16:01Listen to me.
16:04You have a loan on the car, is what you just said.
16:07Is that correct, Whitney?
16:08Yes.
16:08Mm-hmm.
16:10If you have a loan on the car, you are mandated to have insurance.
16:14Mm-hmm.
16:14I did.
16:15Prior to the renter getting it.
16:17So when he got it, he got his insurance, so I stopped mine.
16:20Oh.
16:21So I had insurance on it until he got it.
16:22You can't do...
16:23Hey, you can't do that.
16:24You can't do that.
16:26I'm just telling you.
16:27You can't do that.
16:29With the car insured, I can't have somebody put insurance on it while they have it.
16:34Madam, I hardly believe every other word that's coming out of your mouth.
16:40But what I'm telling you is, you know that if you have a car loan, you're supposed to keep insurance
16:47on the car.
16:48Which I did.
16:49You're supposed to keep insurance on the car.
16:50I did.
16:50And you didn't.
16:51Because...
16:51I did.
16:52Okay.
16:52Fine.
16:53Fine.
16:53Fine.
16:54Fine.
16:54Fine.
16:55So prior to me giving Brandon the car or the person before it that hit the deer,
17:00I had insurance on the car.
17:02I also have another Prius that is the identical Prius.
17:05So my brain, I guess, didn't put two and two together that that wasn't the same car.
17:09Because even after that person hit the car and his insurance didn't cover it...
17:14She didn't have insurance.
17:14She didn't have insurance.
17:15I don't want you to say anything.
17:16I'm not talking to you.
17:18His insurance didn't cover it.
17:20So I called my insurance.
17:22They came and told the car and everything to get it fixed.
17:24And then later called me after they had it and said,
17:27Hey, the VIN numbers don't match.
17:29And so then I noticed the wrong Prius is still on there.
17:32You noticed the wrong Prius.
17:34Which is fair.
17:35I mean, I have the proof.
17:37You noticed the wrong Prius.
17:39Okay.
17:40Well, this is a much easier case now listening to you for five seconds than I thought it was going
17:46to be.
17:46You have to pay to have the windshield fixed, which you broke, which is $500.
17:50The fact that you're suing her for $3,845, I'm going to deal with very fast.
17:56You're suing her for vandalizing the car windows, which she did.
17:59So that's $500.
18:01Loss of income?
18:03Forget it.
18:03Basketball training sessions?
18:05Forget it.
18:06Because you say you lost income because you couldn't rent the car because the windshield was broken.
18:12The windshield was broken.
18:13He was paying for it.
18:14So because I couldn't rent it on Turo because it had damage on there, I have the proof that he
18:19paid me $30 every single day.
18:21I can privately rent it if I wanted to.
18:23Great.
18:24I have contacts and everything.
18:26I also happen to pay for training.
18:28Madam, this isn't the great American giveaway.
18:31You want to watch that?
18:32You go watch some political program where they're giving away everything.
18:35This is not it.
18:37You get $500 for the window.
18:40Period.
18:41This court is adjourned.
18:42Wow.
18:47I feel like she did a good job because I feel like they was lying on me, picking with me,
18:51harassing me, keep going.
18:53I just feel like I didn't have to pay $3,800.
18:55That was not my fault.
18:57So my loss wages initially for like 30 days, I gave her some grace.
19:01When the car was already damaged.
19:02Because I know she don't have no money.
19:04The glass broke with a high salt bottle.
19:06I mean, ultimately, I just want my car fixed.
19:08Don't throw high salt bottles.
19:12Plaintiff was a little bit of a hustler.
19:16Wrong Prius.
19:17A little bit.
19:18You don't cut your insurance on a car that you're not using anymore because you're loaning out.
19:24Yeah.
19:24And making $30 a day in cash.
19:28And then try to pass off a damage to the car with a different car that has insurance.
19:35Yeah.
19:36But I think the defendant also had an anger problem that it didn't surprise me.
19:39She threw a hot sauce bottle through the windshield.
19:42No, no, no.
19:43You could just tell based on her.
19:44She was definitely responsible for that.
19:46But the rest of the lawsuit was ridiculous.
19:50And she knew she was obliged if she had a car loan to pay that loan.
19:56For the whole time.
19:57And I only give it 50-50 that she's continuing to pay that car loan since that car is now
20:04sitting there idly, not doing anything.
20:06Yeah.
20:07Because it really can't be driven.
20:09Mm-hmm.
20:09Because that looks awful.
20:11Nobody's going to rent a car that's all banged up on one side.
20:14Mm-hmm.
20:14Ridiculous.
20:15Anyway, your requirement is that when you borrow money from a bank, bank wants to be secure in the fact
20:22that they're going to get their money back.
20:24So you have to keep insurance on the car.
20:26Insured by you.
20:27Insured by you.
20:27Not by every random person that rents it.
20:29Right.
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