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00:00You agreed to let him borrow the car?
00:03Yes.
00:04And you told him the car?
00:05He gave me the car.
00:06He gave it to you as a gift?
00:07Yes.
00:08Not that I'm aware of, Your Honor.
00:10You tell me, where does it say that he gave you the car?
00:13It doesn't.
00:14Joe.
00:15This is Judy Justice.
00:35Daniel Drust is suing his former friend, Timothy DeHorris, for the cost of a car and towing fees after Timothy
00:43crashed the vehicle.
00:45Court come to order.
00:46All rise.
00:47Have a seat, please.
00:51Judge case 4053, Drust v. DeHorris.
00:54You're welcome.
00:55Mr. Drust, am I correct that you met the defendant on a dating site?
01:00That's correct, Your Honor.
01:02When?
01:02This would have been in late 2023.
01:05November, December?
01:06I'd say about November.
01:07And at some point, you remain friends.
01:11Yeah.
01:11Is what I gather.
01:13And at some point, you had a second car that you weren't using.
01:17That is a 2007 Honda Civic.
01:20Would you take a look at that, Sarah?
01:22Okay, now, you drove a Tesla.
01:25According to you, the defendant wanted to borrow that car to get to and from work, whatever.
01:33And you agreed to let him borrow the car.
01:36Yes, ma'am.
01:37What month and year did you allow him to borrow the car?
01:40That would have been in March of 24, Your Honor.
01:43We had that agreement.
01:44And I assume you also say that you inherited this car from your mother.
01:48Oh, yes.
01:48It was given to me by my mother.
01:50So it was a gift from your mother.
01:51Correct.
01:51When did she give it to you?
01:53May of 2022, Your Honor.
01:55Why?
01:56She was being nice to me.
01:58Did you have a car in May of 22?
02:00Yes.
02:01So she gave you this as a second car?
02:03That's correct.
02:03What did you do with it?
02:05I drove it occasionally.
02:06I mostly kept it as a backup vehicle for my delivery business.
02:10It was insured?
02:11It was, Your Honor.
02:12Liability only.
02:13It had liability insurance.
02:15And you had an accident.
02:16Mr. DeHorris?
02:18Yes.
02:18You had an accident.
02:20I totaled the car.
02:21You had an accident.
02:23You didn't do it on purpose, did you?
02:24No.
02:25So it was an accident.
02:26Yes.
02:26In what month and year?
02:28The same month, March 2024.
02:30Tell me about the accident.
02:32At the time, I had just started my second job.
02:35So I was doing onboarding that night and...
02:37Slowly and clearly so I can hear you.
02:39Yes.
02:39Started your second job.
02:41You were onboarding?
02:42Yes.
02:43What does that mean?
02:43So they were just telling me about the job and doing some training videos with me.
02:48And then that same night, I went to do some errands before going home.
02:51What time?
02:52I want to say around 10 p.m.
02:53Go ahead.
02:54And then around midnight on the way home, I had fallen asleep behind the wheel at a stop
02:58sign and woke up to me driving into a ditch on the side of a road and crashed into a
03:04pole.
03:05Okay.
03:05And whose fault was that, that you fell asleep behind the wheel?
03:08Mine.
03:09Okay.
03:09And you totaled the car?
03:11Yes.
03:11That's what you're here for?
03:13Yes, ma'am.
03:13You want the value, book value of the car?
03:16Yes, Your Honor.
03:16Okay.
03:18And Mr. DeHorris, I assume your defense is, is what you indicate in the papers, is that
03:25he wasn't letting you borrow the car.
03:27He gave it to you as a gift.
03:29Yes, he gave me the car.
03:30Okay.
03:30So the burden is now shifting to you, Mr. DeHorris.
03:34Now we understand that you had possession of the car.
03:37You were negligent with the car.
03:39You destroyed the car.
03:41He says he let you borrow the car to go to work.
03:43Look, you show me where he gave you the car.
03:52And when you find what you want to show me, circle it.
03:55Okay.
03:56Kevin will give you a pen to circle where it is that he told you that he was making a
04:02gift
04:02to you of this car.
04:10Because you understand, Mr. DeHorris, if you made a gift to him, then it's his car,
04:14whether he transferred or not.
04:15You would agree with that.
04:16I understand that, Your Honor.
04:18You would agree with that.
04:19I would agree.
04:20Let's see.
04:26Where does this say that he gave you the car?
04:28Um, when he...
04:30I just want you to read.
04:32There's nothing that I read that he gave you the car.
04:35I want you to read to me what it is here that you think says,
04:39I'm making a gift to you of this car.
04:47I'm sorry, it's this paper.
04:49Do you want me to just read it out to you?
04:52Just take a pen, circle it.
05:08I want you to read this whole thing out loud to me.
05:11Okay.
05:12So that Whitney can take it down.
05:14This is what you say you allege is the backup evidence for the fact that he gave you the car
05:21as a gift?
05:23Return this and have him read it out loud.
05:30Well, Daniel stated, well, I can tell you're in a bad situation right now, so I don't mind...
05:35You were in a bad situation because you didn't have a car.
05:38Yes.
05:39And so I can tell you're in a bad situation.
05:41Go ahead.
05:42Let's put a time limit on it, though.
05:44Let's do this for a week, and then we will either work out a different arrangement financially,
05:48or I'll just take it back.
05:49Well, so you tell me, where does it say that he gave you the car?
05:56Nobody gets a ticket because they had an accident.
05:59They get a ticket because they were driving while intoxicated, driving while impaired.
06:05What did it say on your ticket?
06:07And later today...
06:08Can I also just say that...
06:10No.
06:11Can't say anything.
06:12I'm going to do this with numbers.
06:14You didn't make payments for two months.
06:16He had every right to repossess the car.
06:27Daniel Drust claims his former friend, Timothy DeHorris, fell asleep at the wheel and totaled
06:35his Honda Civic.
06:36Tell me what word that you just read to me suggests that he gave you the car.
06:43It doesn't.
06:45Ja.
06:49Anything else?
06:53What's the value of the Honda?
06:55Between $3,600 and $5,000.
06:57Okay.
06:58Anything else?
06:59Anybody want to tell me?
07:00I believe the car should be worth less just because there was also issues with the car prior
07:06to me retrieving...
07:06A what?
07:07There was also issues with the car prior to me retrieving the car.
07:10What issue?
07:11Whenever I would drive it to work or need to go home, I would have to have somebody
07:15jumped the car so there was problems with the battery and then...
07:18And, well, the car is worth at minimum $3,600, maximum $5,000.
07:24You damaged the car.
07:25I'm going to give him the minimum.
07:26Clearly, he got the car as a gift.
07:29He let you have it.
07:30There were some minor issues with the car, but that doesn't diminish the fact that wherever
07:35you went to do your errands after work, whatever it was, it was so either exhausting or inebriating
07:44that you fell asleep at the wheel.
07:46Anybody have a police report?
07:48I do, Your Honor.
07:49I'd like to take a look at it.
07:51Did you get a summons?
07:52Yes.
07:53Yes.
07:54And what was the summons for?
07:55My traffic ticket.
07:57A traffic ticket for what?
07:59For crashing the car.
08:00It doesn't say for crashing the car.
08:01You don't get a ticket for an accident.
08:03You get a ticket if you did something wrong.
08:05Mr. DeHorris, you get a ticket for doing something wrong.
08:09Yes, Your Honor.
08:10Nobody gets a ticket because they had an accident.
08:12They get a ticket because they were driving while intoxicated, driving while impaired.
08:19They get a ticket if they pass a red light.
08:22You get a ticket if you were speeding and had an accident.
08:25Do you understand?
08:26Yes.
08:27What did it say on your ticket?
08:30Um is not an answer, Mr. DeHorris.
08:33Failure to maintain a single lane.
08:35What?
08:36I just have the police report.
08:38I don't have the ticket with me.
08:45Okay.
08:46So they saw no evidence of intoxication.
08:50That's a good thing for you.
08:51You had liability insurance.
08:54Did the homeowner sue you?
08:56Not that I'm aware of, Your Honor.
08:57Why not?
08:59I don't know.
09:01Because Arthur made contact with the homeowner who advised that she believes the gate which
09:07he struck is worth $5,000.
09:10Who was your insurance carrier?
09:12It was Progressive Insurance.
09:13Do you have any information from Progressive?
09:15To my knowledge, the homeowner has not filed a claim.
09:18That's not my question, sir.
09:20I do have proof of insurance from Progressive.
09:23Very good to see that.
09:34Okay.
09:35Very good.
09:36You said $3,600?
09:38$3,600 to $5,000 is the range for a private party sale.
09:41Judgment for the plaintiff in the amount of $3,600.
09:44Thank you very much.
09:45We're finished.
09:45It's quarterback, Judge.
09:49i think she's wrong in her decision judge saw through the lie that the defendant attempted
09:54to say that i gave him the vehicle and she saw the truth and gave me what i'm owed i
09:59feel like
10:00it was more on daniel's fault than mine we spoke before the case and we're on mostly
10:05good terms but i don't think we'll be close again he was very upset about it
10:10well that's interesting because now if we had a loyal viewer in the woman whose gate was destroyed
10:18by that car when he totaled the car by driving it into a ditch and a fence she'll know who
10:27to sue
10:27yeah and she'll know she has a legit claim right case 4062 dinehart versus gobo all parties please
10:34come forward kyle dinehart is suing his ex-girlfriend tammy goble for an unpaid car loan
10:42and towing fees evidently you don't listen or watch because you're never supposed to co-sign a loan
10:52for anybody so this is what the case is about and we're gonna have to figure out how to resolve
10:57it
10:58almost equitably you used to be a couple according to your complaint about three years ago
11:04you loan the defendant ten thousand dollars as a down payment to buy a used car the loan on the
11:11car
11:11as well as the title are in both your names so far correct correct then you broke up and you
11:17broke up
11:18shortly thereafter maybe in 2021 is that right correct and since 2021 you've had the car yes and
11:25you've made payments on the car with the exception of two months according to you two months you didn't
11:32make payments on the car the plaintiff was notified by the bank that the car was in default two months
11:39he repossessed the car he now has he says a buyer for the car but he needs you to sign
11:46off on it so he
11:47can sell it and pay off the loan on the car as well as the loan to him i assume
11:53is that right i've since
11:54paid off the car you've paid off the car in total just recently yes okay so let's try to figure
12:01this
12:01out because it's all a matter of numbers and as everyone who watches me knows i'm very bad with
12:07numbers i'm good with social interaction but numbers are not my thing so the car was 21 000
12:15correct yep you repossessed the car in february of this year correct february of 2024 you didn't make
12:24the payments for december and january that's incorrect i did make it for december it was january that i
12:31missed and i thought you said you didn't make the payments for two months i was late february it was
12:38january and february that were not made correct was it longer than those two months uh it was two months
12:44in arrears when i repossessed two months yep so it was two months can i also just say that no
12:50can't
12:51say anything i'm going to do this with numbers okay you didn't make payments for two months he had
12:56every right to repossess the car to cut his losses what you should have done over the period of time
13:02miss govel is to refinance the car say to him you're off this pay him off whatever you owed him
13:08and finished you're no longer a couple you're really not out any money because you couldn't have
13:17had a car for any less than what you spent for this car which is 216 a month for three
13:23years
13:23and i always got to get rid of it
13:34kyle deinhardt has accused his ex-girlfriend tammy gobel of owing for an unpaid car loan and towing
13:42fees tammy is countersuing kyle claiming he is wrongfully keeping her vehicle it's unreasonable to
13:50ask him to be responsible for the car to the bank responsible if you have an accident doesn't know
13:57whether you keep insurance doesn't know any of those things and his name is on it as a libel person
14:01so how do we figure it out how much did you pay off on the car i was around 22
14:07000 i can look it up
14:08quick no look it up completely i thought the whole car was 21 000 the final payment was
14:15two thousand two hundred and forty seven dollars two thousand two hundred and forty seven dollars
14:20thirty cents so if that's the final payout and that includes the two months that you made current no
14:27no that was in addition to the three months and then i paid made payments on it for the six
14:31months between
14:33from february till i just paid it off in october just this month so that's the whole amount that's
14:39two thousand two hundred and forty seven dollars that was paid off the final payment yes i want to
14:45know what you paid on the car that you can prove to me from february 2024 until don't give me
14:51a whole
14:52bunch of papers i asked you for a figure it was 216 a month for the six months between march
14:59and october
15:00plus the 22 47 30 in october did you have the car i had the car from the end of
15:07february until
15:08okay and now just a second you had the car i have the car yes you have the car yes
15:14what were you
15:15doing with it i lent it to a friend to drive and oh well then you pay for that i'm
15:20not yeah i'm not
15:21going after the payments i made then you pay for that you had the car you pay for it so
15:26you paid off
15:26two thousand two hundred and forty seven dollars right okay so that's what it cost you the whole thing
15:34right but now i have the car and i cannot sell it because the lien release would go to the
15:39defendant
15:39and she needs to sign off on the title for me to be able to be rid of that responsibility
15:45of the car
15:45so miss goble we're now in october of 2024 do you work yes what kind of work do you do
15:54i am assistant
15:55general manager and how do you get to work right now no how do you get to how do you
16:01get to work
16:02let's not play in a car your car what kind of a car it is a chrysler convertible from whom
16:10did you
16:10purchase it it is my late father's when did you inherit it from him um right after mr dinehart took
16:18my car oh so you have a car and what year car is it the car i'm driving now yes
16:232004 and you had the car
16:26from february of 2021 right february of 2021 your honor we bought the car in august yes that's correct
16:36of 2021 yes and he repossessed the car in february of 2024 correct so you had the car about three
16:44years
16:45and how much did you invest in the car you paid 216 a month yes and i do have just
16:52a sec 216 a month for
16:54the three years yes that's your total investment in the car i do have the receipts of being fixed
17:01i don't i don't care about being fixed you had a car for 216 a month that was your investment
17:09in the
17:10car correct right not anymore not any less 216 a month yes right yes you sign the title over to
17:20him
17:20get the title miss coble let's not be unconscionable you seem like a reasonable lady you can't rent a
17:28car for 216 a month any car you had a car 216 a month that's your rental you now have
17:36a car he needs
17:37to sell this car to get out from under the payments that he made and also the money that he
17:41advanced
17:43the money that he advanced towards the down payment yes which we're not talking about so now listen to me
17:48sir you now have the title and you say you have a buy i do great i mean as far
17:54as the money i had to
17:55invest to repossess the the car and to repeat it right that'll be a good that'll be a good lesson
18:01absolutely that'll be a good lesson i just say he has sold my dad's minivan he has sold all my
18:09stuff
18:10and kept the money to put towards this ten thousand dollars that he said that that's okay what i'm telling
18:16you is your issue monetarily is you drove a car for three years for 200 bucks a month 216 a
18:23month
18:23that's not unreasonable right now somebody has to get rid of this car or not but you chalk it up
18:30to
18:30i had a car that i liked that i drove for 200 bucks a month that's all i invested in
18:39the car on my own
18:40i didn't need him i didn't ask for him just to say whether you did or whether you just give
18:45him the
18:45title thank you now you have the title thank you you're welcome now you have the title get not out
18:51any money you're really not out any money because you couldn't have had a car for any less than what
18:58you spent for this car which is 216 a month for three years and now he's got to get rid
19:03of it and you
19:04fell behind in your payments not unreasonable for him to take it get it off he's paid off the loan
19:08finished you're done and fortunately or unfortunately you managed to get a car just at the right time so
19:16you have a car to drive all right we're done here thank you very what one more point of clarification
19:21if she receives the lien release i would like a judgment for her to surrender that to me so i
19:27can
19:27sell it it's not just the title but i have to have the the lien release from the bank to
19:31prove that it's
19:32not doesn't have a lien on it she'll sign it okay thank you she'll sign it she wants this over
19:37with
19:37where do you come from what jurisdiction um minnesota minnesota yep well we'll just hold
19:44on to what we have to hold on to until that's signed understood yes very good thank you thank you
19:49i think it was fair it just uh it's a lesson and who to trust with money and who not
19:59to i tried to text
20:00him and send an email telling him that i was out on a medical leave if she wanted to work
20:06with me on it i
20:07i think we could have maybe found a solution i think it's a personal vendetta i have uh no less
20:13than 12 late payment notices on this loan currently i've been with him long enough and know how he is
20:18i'm glad it's over at least this is done and over with
20:23don't co-sign a loan for anybody
20:31have you been cheated go to judyjustice.tv
20:34do
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