- 3 hours ago
Category
📺
TVTranscript
00:00You want her to take pictures of your daughter's 21st birthday?
00:04Correct.
00:05She said that she wouldn't have my pictures in time.
00:07Your 21st birthday didn't exactly creep up on you.
00:10I think it's just, I just think.
00:13Do you think you want to talk to each other?
00:15Go outside and don't waste my time.
00:17This is Judy Justice.
00:35Rashida Frazier is suing her former clients, Jada Millett and Antoinette Chavers, for property damage, photography services, copyright infringement, and
00:47defamation.
00:48Court come to order.
00:49All rise.
00:51Have a seat, please.
00:52Judge, case 4023, Frazier versus Millett Chavers.
00:56You're welcome.
00:57Miss Frazier, you're a photographer.
00:58Yes, ma'am.
01:00Do you have your own studio?
01:00I work out of my home.
01:02Do you have a website?
01:03Yes, ma'am.
01:04Can I take a look at it?
01:05Yes, ma'am.
01:20Okay.
01:21Now I've read this website.
01:23I want you to take a look at this.
01:24What's your first name?
01:26Jada.
01:27Jada.
01:27Take a look at this.
01:28Let your mom take a look at this and make sure that this is the same website that you saw
01:32when you hired Miss Frazier to photograph your 21st birthday.
01:38No, it's a new website.
01:41No, it's a new website.
01:41It's been updated.
01:42Can I see the website that you saw?
01:45Okay.
01:46And I'll take them both now.
01:57Now, the one that you gave me is only partial.
02:00I'm not seeing that it's any different from that.
02:02And some of it's left out.
02:03That's what was available to us on the website.
02:06Well, that's too bad.
02:07Did you change your website?
02:08No, ma'am.
02:08No.
02:09Return this to them.
02:10Okay, so you knew what the drill was.
02:12You wanted her to take pictures for your daughter's 21st birthday.
02:15She was getting makeup done.
02:16I think the whole charge was $250.
02:19Yes, ma'am.
02:19According to the website, the $250 package that you ordered, which is what you ordered, correct?
02:25Correct.
02:26Included her taking the pictures.
02:28It included 10 retouched pictures from the whole package.
02:32It was a $50 deposit.
02:34The rest of the money was to be paid in cash at the date of the shoot.
02:37That you had to notify her in advance of any guests you were bringing, because it's at her house.
02:43Space is small.
02:44No kids.
02:45Anything else that I left out?
02:47No, ma'am.
02:47Okay, so you made an appointment.
02:50For when?
02:51The appointment was scheduled for?
02:52Well, originally we had two appointments, but because of editing, we needed to push the appointment
02:58up so she could have the photos available for her birthday on time, so...
03:04You asked her to please move up the date.
03:06Well, she asked us.
03:07What date did you call her?
03:09So, um...
03:10Not so.
03:10Just give me a date.
03:11June 23rd.
03:1223rd.
03:13Is the date that you called her.
03:14When's your birthday?
03:15July 7th.
03:16And when was the first appointment that you made with her?
03:19So, the original appointment was for July 2nd.
03:21And then there was a conversation about changing that to a sooner date.
03:26Tell me about that conversation.
03:27In order for me to have my pictures on time, we had to...
03:31No, no, no.
03:32Schedule a meeting.
03:33No, no, no.
03:33Unless you're a mind reader, you don't know that.
03:36Mm-hmm.
03:36You had your appointment for July 2nd.
03:39Mm-hmm.
03:39Then something had to happen.
03:41Either you or your mother had to call the plaintiff and say,
03:44You know what?
03:45I don't think that that's enough time for her to say to you,
03:49If you do it July 2nd, I can't have the pictures for you by your birthday.
03:53Somebody had to say that, start that conversation.
03:56Yeah.
03:56Who was it?
03:57The plaintiff said that she wouldn't have my pictures in time.
03:59So, to move the appointment up.
04:01Yeah.
04:01Go ahead.
04:02Your Honor, she texted me and asked, My birthday is July 7th.
04:07She said, I looked at your turnaround time.
04:09Will they be done by the 7th?
04:11And I told her, No, they will not.
04:13The turnaround time is 7 to 10 business days.
04:15But what I can do for you, since you want to post a picture...
04:18Just a second.
04:19So you called her.
04:20Yeah.
04:21Yes.
04:22And said, I know I'm coming in on the 2nd.
04:26Is that enough time for me to get my pictures done for my birthday?
04:30Because on the website, there's a rush fee.
04:33Yes.
04:34On the website that you didn't want to pay.
04:37No, I did.
04:38Yeah.
04:38I agreed to pay the rush fee.
04:39She denied it.
04:40Okay.
04:41Well, maybe she was busy.
04:42Maybe.
04:43Just a second.
04:44And that's why I was scheduled.
04:45Your 21st birthday didn't exactly creep up on you.
04:48It's been coming for 21 years.
04:50The date hasn't changed.
04:51So you called the last week in June, and you wanted your pictures for the first week in July
04:57finished.
04:58That's what you wanted.
04:59Okay.
05:00That means that somebody who may have other things to do, personal, professional, or whatever,
05:04has to sort of move to your cadence, to your delayed cadence.
05:09In any event, she rescheduled in order to get that for you.
05:13Mm-hmm.
05:14That's an uh-huh.
05:15That's a yes.
05:16Yes.
05:16And when did she reschedule that for you?
05:19June 26th.
05:20Yeah.
05:20So that was an accommodation.
05:22Yes.
05:23Now, now I want you to tell me what happened when you got there.
05:27Okay.
05:27When I arrived, she was upset because I brought my one person that it says on the website that you
05:34can do.
05:35And...
05:35No, no, no, no, no, no.
05:36It doesn't say that.
05:40It says you can...
05:52Well, we have...
05:52Correct.
05:53Okay.
05:54So I read it.
05:54Now, she was upset that you brought one person.
05:57But you were about to say she knew we were bringing the one person.
06:01Yes, ma'am.
06:02Okay.
06:02So I want you to tell me how she knew.
06:04She didn't look into a crystal ball.
06:06No.
06:06We were all included in a group chat where we discussed where we were meeting at, times,
06:12dates.
06:13Everything was discussed between my co-defendant, my mom, and the plaintiff.
06:17So you assumed she knew that you were bringing your mother.
06:20I was aware that she knew.
06:22No, you can't be aware.
06:23You can't be aware what she knew because that makes you sort of soothsayer, creeping into her mind.
06:29You assumed that since you were on a three-way chat discussing where to go and what time to go,
06:35you assumed that she knew that you were bringing your mother.
06:39You didn't know she knew you were bringing your mother unless you said to her,
06:44I am bringing my mother.
06:45Is that okay pursuant to your website?
06:48Right?
06:49You didn't say that to her.
06:51No.
06:51You were all together.
06:52So you assumed that she knew that you were bringing your mother.
06:56Your Honor, that still doesn't give anyone a right to be upset and yell at you.
06:59Justice, don't.
07:00Okay.
07:01We're going for facts, madam.
07:03The facts are, as indicated, you're supposed to have permission.
07:07You assumed that that was all taken care of because you were all doing this thing together,
07:12and she knew it was your 21st birthday.
07:14Right.
07:14So, and then your mother was sort of coordinating this thing, happened to...
07:17I substantively don't understand why she would have been annoyed that you brought your mother
07:22if your mother was bathing herself.
07:27She rushed to get you an appointment.
07:29No.
07:30No.
07:30I swear, are you kidding?
07:32She might have been busy, but the services that I was paying for...
07:35Just a second.
07:36I think...
07:37I can't assume that she's busy.
07:38I just think...
07:38Your Honor...
07:39Do you think you want to talk to each other?
07:41Well, go outside and don't waste my time.
07:52Rashida Frazier claims her former clients, Jada Molest and Antoinette Shavers,
07:58vandalized her house and defamed her.
08:00Jada and Antoinette are countersuing for posting a nude image of Jada online.
08:06All right.
08:07So now you've come to the date of the shoot and...
08:10Nobody was really acting out.
08:11It was still weird energy, I guess.
08:14Like, my mom advised me, like, not to, like, go forth with the photo shoot,
08:19but I needed my promotion done and my birthday pictures,
08:22so I was trying to be, I guess, kiss-up.
08:25Cordial.
08:26Cordial.
08:27So the pictures were being taken?
08:29Yes.
08:29Fine.
08:30About what time did it start?
08:32It started at...
08:34Was it 5?
08:35It was a 5 p.m. session, ma'am.
08:37And it ended at around 5.55.
08:40And it was supposed to be an hour,
08:42but I think she had a customer coming in or something, so...
08:46What? So it was 55 minutes.
08:47Started at 5 and ended at 5.55.
08:49Okay, now, did you pay her?
08:51Yes.
08:52And you paid her how much?
08:53$250.
08:54Okay.
08:55In total?
08:56Yes.
08:56Great.
08:57And that's what she charges?
08:58Yes.
08:59Okay.
09:00So you didn't pay her a rush fee?
09:02No.
09:03Right.
09:03Even though she rushed?
09:04She did not rush.
09:05Oh, just a second.
09:06Well, she rushed to get you an appointment.
09:08No.
09:09No.
09:10She didn't get an appointment.
09:11I swear, are you kidding?
09:12No.
09:12Your Honor.
09:13She rushed to get you a sooner appointment.
09:16Your Honor, if I were to book for July the 2nd,
09:19I would have paid the rush fee in order for my pictures to arrive on July 7th.
09:22But being as though she agreed to push my date up to June 26th, there's no rush fee involved.
09:28There was no reason for the rush fee.
09:29I'm absolutely following you, madam.
09:31Right.
09:31I'm not thick.
09:32I said to you, she accommodated you to make the shoot.
09:36She accommodated herself.
09:36Listen.
09:37No.
09:38She might have been busy, but the services that I was paying for...
09:42Just a second.
09:43I think that's just...
09:43I can't assume that she's busy.
09:45I just think that, Your Honor...
09:46Do you think you want to talk to each other?
09:48Go outside and don't waste my time.
09:50No.
09:50What I'm telling you is, if she hadn't moved the date up to accommodate you, which is what you asked
09:57for,
09:58and she kept the date originally selected, which was July 2nd,
10:03and if you wanted the pictures, by the 7th, you would have had to have paid an additional $200.
10:11Mm-hmm.
10:11Which I was fine with doing.
10:12Just a second.
10:13That's not an uh-huh.
10:15That's a yes.
10:16Yes, which I was fine with doing.
10:18So instead of making you pay the additional $200 rush fee, she agreed to see you at 5 o'clock
10:26on the 26th.
10:28That's what it appears like on paper.
10:30Do you get that now?
10:32I still don't.
10:33Are you answering the phone?
10:35No.
10:36I'm looking at the messages.
10:37You can't listen.
10:38I'll tell you like I tell my husband all the time.
10:41I'm not talking to you until you're looking at my eyes.
10:43I'm sorry, Your Honor.
10:44Do you understand?
10:45I do.
10:45Now, I'm not saying it again.
10:47I want you to start to process that in your brain.
10:50Can I speak, Your Honor?
10:51I think where the confusion is happening is that the before date was available,
10:57so Rashida wasn't put out in any way.
10:59All we had to do is go back on the website and book an earlier date.
11:03I just didn't know she had a 7 to 10 day turnaround.
11:06So it was me that booked this shoot.
11:08And on the policy, there's a rush fee.
11:10So even if there is a 7 to 10 day turnaround, I can pay a rush fee.
11:14And we didn't get the rush fee because she explained if we did it on the 2nd, they would not
11:19be done in time.
11:20Your Honor, it was the 4th of July.
11:22Shh.
11:24So it was just a little...
11:26Retouched images take 7 to 10 business days from the day you choose your photos.
11:31That's what it says?
11:33Yes, Your Honor.
11:34That's correct.
11:34OK.
11:35So once she reiterated that through text, I said, OK, well, we'll push the date up so that we can
11:41get it within the 7 to 10 days.
11:42We don't have to pay a rush fee.
11:44Everything was good.
11:45I have the text right here.
11:46Just a second.
11:47So she accommodated you?
11:49No.
11:50It was available.
11:51Oh, wow.
11:51You're answering her question.
11:53Impossible.
11:53I can actually understand her frustration.
11:55Yes.
11:56Your Honor, I don't think I'm explaining the matter right.
11:58So here's what happened.
12:00The plaintiff was busy on the day I decided to book.
12:04I already paid the deposit for that day.
12:05There's a rush fee.
12:06I knew there was a rush fee.
12:07I knew I would be able to pay that rush fee.
12:09Just a second.
12:10You can't talk fast to me.
12:11I'm sorry.
12:12I'm just trying to get it all out.
12:13I just want to get this right.
12:15The plaintiff was already busy when you booked your date?
12:18Is that what you first said?
12:19No.
12:19Is that what you said?
12:20Could you read backwards?
12:21She expressed.
12:22She said the plaintiff was busy on the day I decided to book.
12:25I already paid the deposit.
12:26Yeah, that's what you said.
12:26The plaintiff was busy.
12:27But she didn't express to me until after I booked.
12:29Just a second.
12:30You said the plaintiff was busy on the day that I booked.
12:34Mm-hmm.
12:34Did you book with her in person or did you book with her online?
12:38Online.
12:39OK.
12:39And as soon as you did, she said, I'm busy on that date.
12:43Yes.
12:43Oh.
12:44And she gave you the date of July 2nd.
12:48She gave me the date of June 26th.
12:50What date was July 2nd?
12:52That was the original date that I was planning to schedule for.
12:55OK.
12:57So.
12:57You could have had that date, but you wouldn't have had your pictures on time.
13:00Absolutely.
13:00Yeah.
13:00That's what I said.
13:01But she didn't accommodate it.
13:03Yeah.
13:03I could have had my photos on time by paying that rush fee if that makes sense.
13:07But there was a sooner date available.
13:09She didn't want to pay it.
13:09I did want to pay it.
13:10Maybe I see what she's giving me.
13:17Yeah.
13:18You're saying she accommodated us.
13:19Yeah.
13:19My birthday is July 7th.
13:21I was wondering if the pics can be ready by that date without having to pay a rush fee.
13:25Without.
13:26Mm-hmm.
13:26Without having to pay a rush fee.
13:28Your shoot is July 2nd and your birthday is the 7th.
13:31Did you read the website?
13:32They will not be done.
13:34Right.
13:34That's what you wrote.
13:35Right.
13:36That's what she wrote.
13:37Yeah.
13:38No.
13:38That's what your daughter wrote.
13:40Your daughter wrote, can I come in?
13:41I don't want to pay your rush fee.
13:43I did not say I don't want to pay your rush fee.
13:45Stop talking.
13:46OK.
13:46It's not that I'm not understanding you, madam.
13:48I'm understanding you perfectly.
13:50I just got confused.
13:51You said she accommodated us.
13:53I don't care if you get confused.
13:53Your confusion is not my mission.
13:55Let me tell you something.
13:56Yes.
13:56She's in the business of providing a service.
14:00Mm-hmm.
14:00Mm-hmm.
14:00That service requires happy customers who will continue to promote her business so that
14:07she can continue to make a living.
14:08Absolutely.
14:09That's what she does.
14:10There has to be, in my judgment, which is common sense, some real reason why there was
14:17this acrimony that existed right from the very beginning.
14:21And I'm going to tell you something.
14:22It didn't emanate with her.
14:25Because I can see from our discourse, it didn't emanate with her.
14:30Well, I have proof otherwise.
14:32Now, that's not a not speak.
14:33That's not an answer.
14:34I'm not in a dalliance with you.
14:38She says you didn't pay her the $2.50.
14:41That's not correct, Your Honor.
14:42You paid her the $2.50.
14:43I paid her the $2.50.
14:44Show me.
14:44I'll show you what she refunded so that proves that I paid.
14:47No.
14:48It doesn't prove that you paid.
14:49Okay.
14:49Well, then I'll show you what I paid.
14:50Listen, your mother may listen to your blabber.
14:53I don't.
14:53I don't.
14:55I don't.
14:59I don't.
15:00I don't.
15:01I don't.
15:02I don't.
15:02I don't.
15:03I don't.
15:03Rashida Frazier has accused her former clients, Jada Millett and Antoinette Shavers, of vandalizing
15:10her house.
15:11Jada claims Rashida ruined her reputation by posting a nude image of her online.
15:18Listen.
15:18She took your pictures.
15:20Mm-hmm.
15:20And after she took your pictures, tell me what happened.
15:24After my photos were taken, I left.
15:28You paid her.
15:29$250.
15:30Yes.
15:30She didn't have my payment, Your Honor.
15:32She what?
15:32She did not have my payment.
15:34It says final payment.
15:35Shh.
15:35Just a second.
15:36She says you didn't pay her the $2.50 the day you left.
15:39That's not correct, Your Honor.
15:41You paid her the $2.50.
15:41I paid her the $2.50.
15:42Show me.
15:43We paid her $50.
15:44Yup.
15:45I'm speaking to one person.
15:46I'll show you what she refunded, so that proves that I paid.
15:49No.
15:49It doesn't prove that you paid.
15:50OK.
15:50Well, then I'll show you what I paid.
15:52Listen, your mother may listen to your blabber.
15:54I don't.
15:55It doesn't prove that you paid her on the date of the shoot, which is what it says in
15:59here.
15:59She says you didn't pay her on the date of the shoot.
16:02She had to go get cash.
16:03You said I don't want to hear you.
16:04Your Honor, how would I prove that I paid her with cash?
16:06Hold on.
16:07Just a second.
16:08All I'm asking you is, did you pay her with cash?
16:11Yes.
16:12Did you pay her with cash on the day that you left the shoot?
16:16Yes.
16:17Show me.
16:18How would I show you that I paid her with cash?
16:20OK.
16:21She paid me, Your Honor, but the mother, as I was shooting, Jada, she was giving like
16:25sigh language to her mother.
16:27And the mother said, oh, shoot.
16:28And she grabbed her keys and ran out of the house.
16:30And I said, where is your mother going?
16:32Oh, you want to be paid in cash, right?
16:34She's going to get your cash.
16:36Just a second.
16:36Did she pay you in cash that day?
16:39Yes, but I had to push my 6 p.m. back.
16:41It says bring the money.
16:42Just a second.
16:43All she does is lie, Your Honor.
16:44Don't be petty.
16:46Then the answer is, the mother paid you cash.
16:49She may not have brought it with her, but she paid you cash on the date of the shoot.
16:53She did, ma'am.
16:54That's all I want to know.
16:54But she took so long.
16:55I had to push my next client back.
16:57I don't care.
16:58OK.
16:58OK.
16:59So now the photo shoot is finished, and you are paid.
17:02What happened next?
17:04I left.
17:05She sent me the raw images for me to pick 10 photos that I want edited.
17:10The same day?
17:12It was June 28th, so it was two days after the photo shoot.
17:15So two days afterwards, she got you the raw pictures.
17:17Yes.
17:17Great.
17:18And what happened then?
17:20I expressed to her that I seen...
17:22Not expressed.
17:22You sent her a text.
17:23You called her.
17:24Yeah, I sent her a text that I...
17:25That said what?
17:26I seen on her site you could get an additional picture, but you have to pay $15 to edit each
17:33additional picture.
17:34She would only retouch 10 pictures for the...
17:37For the...
17:37Just a second.
17:38For the set.
17:39Read to me what you said to her in your text.
17:42I said to her, if you can please do these pictures, I believe it's 13, but I will pay
17:47you extra.
17:48You'll make my birthday.
17:49OK.
17:49So you wanted her, according to your text, to do three additional pictures.
17:55Yes.
17:56She answered you.
17:56She said 12 is the max you can order.
17:59I asked her, is that by policy or is that by choice?
18:02And she proceeded to refund me.
18:04Yeah.
18:04That's not true.
18:05Didn't answer my...
18:06OK.
18:06She's reading the end of the messages.
18:08Because that would be harsh, right?
18:11So do you have the messages, all the messages?
18:13May I take a look at them, please?
18:17Yes, ma'am.
18:26Well, I don't want to have anything to do with you anymore.
18:28She's going to tell me her version of what happened on these events.
18:31Who can I see?
18:39Well, there's a lot of back and forth.
18:40On Saturday, June 29th, she wrote to you, good morning.
18:46Today is the deadline if you want them on July 7th.
18:49You answer her three hours later and said, you said Sunday at least, right?
18:55Because I need a few extra photos.
18:58And she says to you, 12 is the max you can order.
19:01And you say to her, 12 extra or 12 in total?
19:07So instead of 10, 22.
19:10Well, something's wrong with your noodle, right?
19:13Because you originally said you wanted three extra.
19:16And now you're asking this dumb question, which is 12 extra or 12 in total?
19:21Where did that come from?
19:22This question came way before.
19:23No, 12 extra?
19:25Yeah.
19:26The 12 additional photos?
19:26No, that's June 29th.
19:27She says 12 total.
19:30And then you say to her, I didn't read anything about 12 maximum.
19:34So how much do I get them all with the 10 edits that I already paid for?
19:41So that's me, Your Honor, that said I didn't read anything about 12 max.
19:45Your daughter said she said she wanted 13.
19:48She said 12 max.
19:50Right.
19:50Which it wasn't on the policy.
19:52You're speaking.
19:53Right.
19:53Where is this 12 max at on your page?
19:56What I missed.
19:57I don't know who said that, you or your daughter.
19:59I'm telling you, I'm not retouching more than 12 images.
20:02How am I going to get you 15 plus images by July 7th?
20:06I have other clients.
20:07Oh, wow.
20:08So this is by choice, not policy.
20:11Daughter, get your 10 photos and be done.
20:14Mm-hmm.
20:14So you're in the process of talking back and forth to each other.
20:17I don't know what MMK means.
20:19What does MMK mean?
20:20Mm-kay.
20:21Oh, a bunch of little ones.
20:24And then somebody says, these are my birthday pictures.
20:28W-Y-M.
20:29What does that mean?
20:30What do you mean?
20:31What do you mean?
20:32In refund.
20:33So she didn't send you all of it, Your Honor?
20:34Shh.
20:34I don't want no refund.
20:37I want to pay for more pictures.
20:38And this is a picture of you in fishnet stockings.
20:43I think it'll be better, Your Honor, from the phone if...
20:45OK.
20:46Let me see her phone for a moment, please.
20:49See, this was not going well.
20:51In any event, this was a back and forth and back and forth and back and forth.
20:55And finally she said, I've had enough.
20:56Mm-hmm.
20:57Here's your $250 back.
20:58You got your $250 back.
21:00Is that correct?
21:01That's a yes or a no?
21:02Yes.
21:03OK.
21:03And when you got your $250 back, what did you do with it?
21:06I had to start off...
21:08No.
21:08What did you do?
21:08Did you put it in the bank?
21:09Did you put it in your wallet?
21:10Did you put it in your pocketbook?
21:11I told her, I don't want a refund.
21:13I want my pictures.
21:13I saw that.
21:14But you ultimately took the money.
21:16No.
21:17She refunded it to my mother.
21:18I'm the one paying for the photo shoot.
21:19OK.
21:20Just a second.
21:20So she refunded the money to your mother.
21:22Yes.
21:22And on what date did she refund the money to your mother?
21:24It was that same day, so...
21:28June 29th.
21:28Yes, ma'am.
21:29And on the 29th, everything stopped.
21:32No.
21:33No.
21:33Everything stopped with regard to the photographs.
21:35You didn't edit anymore?
21:37No, I was done.
21:38Yeah, you were done.
21:42You say she falsely claims I vandalized her home.
21:45I have no idea what she's talking about.
21:47Now I'm going to see the video.
21:58Are you having a family dispute?
22:00Go to judyjustice.tv.
22:03Day, 1991.
22:18Do let go after the dog camera change,
22:20For now, the ghost person never stopped,
22:20Never let out nothing of a dream.
22:20Two.
22:30That's what I know.
22:31Before I know.
Comments