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Episode 10: Hunting a Stalker
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00:26It looks like she's gonna stab like
00:33I need you guys to leave and walk over there, please. So we can do our job. Okay. All right
00:48Can we get a med bag med bag? Hold that as good as you can, okay?
00:52Yeah. She was agnal when I got here. Yeah. No pulse when I got here.
01:00Yeah, needs to be left.
01:05Someone want to help road the stretcher?
01:07Go that way. Go that way. Yep. One, two, three, up. Oh, this way, this way, this way. Go, go,
01:15go.
01:15Oh, this way.
01:26All right. We got this. There we go. The cerebral is on the back side. Okay.
01:40Manny. Yep. Get any information about the flea suspect, please.
01:43Which way he went. Yep. All right. What did you see?
01:46What did you see? We just...
01:52No way this is happening right now.
01:55Oh, she's my twin sister.
01:57What's her name? Taylor Drakovich.
01:59Why was she here today? So we just came back from the movie theater.
02:03Okay. All three of you?
02:04Yeah, and she was about to drive home, and all of a sudden, we heard her screaming.
02:10Okay. We thought it was the neighbors downstairs.
02:14But we came down, and mom saw her like this.
02:18Okay. You didn't see anybody?
02:20No. You just heard her screaming?
02:21All we saw was there was a car, a gray car, and it spun down, you know, this way.
02:26And then she... No. And then they took off.
02:30Maybe an SUV?
02:31Okay.
02:32Clotty are heading in there.
02:34Only thing we got right now is a gray SUV left at a high rate of speed.
02:44Hey.
02:47Okay. Does she have a boyfriend?
02:49Yes. She has a previous boyfriend.
02:51She has a PPO on him.
02:52Okay. What's his name?
02:53What's his name?
02:55Jeff.
02:55Jeff what?
02:56Jeffrey K...
02:57Jeff, your heart's ears.
03:01Does he have a vehicle?
03:02Yes. He drives.
03:04Black Chevy.
03:05Yes.
03:06Oh, my God.
03:08Would you mind if we just search through your apartment and make sure nothing happened in there?
03:12Okay.
03:12Of course.
03:12You can walk with us up there.
03:168-2. Myself and Baker 22 are going to be clearing apartment.
03:23No one else should be inside, correct?
03:25Yeah.
03:29You're not featuring all the lights?
03:31Oh, perfect.
03:32No one else should be inside?
03:34No.
03:35Okay.
03:35Just with that.
03:36That way.
03:40She doesn't live.
03:42No.
03:42No, she doesn't live.
03:43No.
03:44We were just together, do you know?
03:46No.
03:49No.
03:59No.
03:59And she never made it inside?
04:01No.
04:01No.
04:01Okay.
04:02She...
04:21Looks like you were...
04:23Search is complete.
04:25nothing so we just found out that the daughter does not have any room here
04:38guard we'll go 35. okay um multiple stab wounds to the back in the apartment out here
04:44right here okay is hicks car here presumably this one okay mama's right there okay
04:51they didn't see anything nobody saw what the hell went down i don't think so i'm just gonna go take
04:58a look here there's blood on the passenger floorboard and then some of her hair which
05:04there's some of her hair over there too that she probably lost in the stabbing um so this door was
05:09open but there's this bag here so i think probably she tried to get back in here was the door
05:13open
05:14though when we got here no okay her keys are there okay so i think maybe she tried to get
05:19in her car
05:20and then just start over there sure okay okay so we're no weapon i checked under all these cars
05:27everyone yeah okay yeah they believe who witnessed the person leaving was in a um gray suv yeah
05:38so we need to get on flock and start checking
05:42wester get a hold of management she's right there okay do they have cameras that go down
05:49labor i'll take i'll look but generally i don't think they have anything i'll check the main office
05:53though so maybe that's different
05:56coming in the parts in between now we've got three stab wounds to the head
06:00and depression uh we do have pretty much down to the skull on our head i have not moved back
06:06yet
06:06cpr is in progress we do uh have an attempted shock on board do you have pulse
06:16this one i can't feel one just keep going it's just showing heart rate so continue
06:21breath is he nice and smooth on the stairs please nice and smooth all the way up guys
06:26go ahead
06:28do you have her id yeah
06:36i'm good
07:03if they get there
07:07i'd like to know if there's that gray suv associated with him i'm just trying to put
07:14everything together so what i'm getting is her ex they have issues he's got a ppo and he's been
07:20making some threats it sounds like she doesn't want to be with him and he's getting a little crazy
07:25about it i just want to make sure we covered everything and we can put all the pieces together
07:30i saw him on video
07:34trying to keep my date straight it's been
07:3714. it was like two weeks ago he showed up at her work and he spent the night in jail
07:44i think like i think it was two weeks ago yeah question out in the morning they have the video
07:59and i think it's going to be a big deal
08:22and i think it's going to be a little bit more
08:48There's a cruise there, say again.
08:54There's a Chevy cruise at his home, but they don't see an SUV.
08:58Clear, direct.
08:59You want to just, with caution, have them make contact with him.
09:03That's fine.
09:15We're going to find the landing behind Aaron.
09:20Cowboys and police search warrant, anyone inside 3B, come to the front door, please.
09:25Cowboys and police search warrant.
09:31Cowboys and police search warrant for apartment 3B, anyone inside, call on now.
09:38Cowboys and police search warrant.
09:41Oh, we're over there.
09:45Police department, search warrant.
09:47Police department, search warrant.
09:49I'll hold out.
09:55Clear.
09:56Clear.
10:04Police search warrant.
10:07Clear.
10:13He's not here.
10:17We do have a telephone number for him.
10:20Not sure if we want to start a thing.
10:24Is there anywhere else he would go?
10:27Other than the apartment.
10:29I think we went there.
10:30He's not there.
10:31Do you have a good address for his parents or names?
10:35Um, Melissa and Mike.
10:37Melissa and Mike.
10:39His sister lives there, too.
10:41What's his sister's name, ma'am?
10:43Jasmine.
10:44Jasmine.
10:44Jasmine.
11:28Hi, I'm looking for Jeff.
11:30Is he around?
11:33Why are you looking for my Jeff?
11:35Kalzoo wants to talk to him about something.
11:37They asked a couple of us to come out here and try and find him.
11:41Is he home?
11:42Okay.
11:43Do you know where he stays at?
11:45He has his apartment.
11:47Alrighty.
11:48Okay.
11:49I appreciate it.
11:56He's right here.
11:57Thanks.
12:35Hey, one of our deaths is behind that car.
12:38Okay.
12:40The car must have been in the garage.
12:43I watch it pull out of the driveway and head east.
13:18Okay.
13:19Great GMC, 26th Street, 63rd Ave.
13:28We'll be out on the felony stop.
13:31Okay.
13:38Driver, show us your hands.
13:41Step out of the car, show us your hands.
13:46Show us your hands.
13:49Who else is in the car with you?
13:51Just you?
13:54Can you step back here for me?
13:59Just keep your hands where we can see them, okay?
14:01There's nobody else in the car?
14:02Okay.
14:03I was going to get my lottery.
14:05I was going to get my lottery.
14:06Why you guys are kissing a gun?
14:10Okay.
14:24Vehicle's clear, we're out with the mom.
14:25What the hell?
14:27There's going to be some officers here to talk to you in just a second, okay?
14:29No.
14:30Why you guys pulled the gun on me is bull .
14:34Ma'am, you're going to stay here, okay?
14:35I can do anything, mom.
14:39Just her.
14:40This is mom.
14:40This is Melissa.
14:41Okay.
14:42And car's empty, I'm guessing.
14:43Car's empty.
14:44She say anything about where he is?
14:45She's just pissed off that we're harassed.
14:47Okay.
14:51So, we think that he took off in this car from the scene.
14:55So, obviously, if she's got it, she had some kind of communication with him.
14:59You still have eyes on that house?
15:01I don't think so.
15:01I can go slide back there.
15:02If we could get some more eyes on the house, we'll talk to mom real quick.
15:07Hi, ma'am.
15:08Why did I get a gun cut on me?
15:10I understand.
15:11No, it's bull .
15:12They both pulled the gun on me.
15:13I'm sure you're very worried and frustrated about everything that's gone.
15:17I have no idea what's going on.
15:18The reason, allow me to explain everything, okay?
15:20We need to talk to Jeff.
15:22Jeff and Taylor got into it, and we got to talk to him right away.
15:25They got into it?
15:27Yes.
15:27Did he go to see her or something?
15:29Yes.
15:30Do you know, is he back at your place?
15:32No.
15:33Do you know where he's at?
15:34No.
15:36Melissa, can I come talk to you over here real quick?
15:38You can talk to me.
15:39That's fine.
15:42Melissa, you are in a horrible spot right now because your son has put you in the middle
15:49of a big mess, all right?
15:51I know that Jeff was in that vehicle within the last couple of hours, and I know that
15:57that vehicle made it back to your place and left.
16:01And we need to get a hold of him because we are concerned for his safety.
16:04I don't know how to get a hold of Jeffrey.
16:09I worry about Jeffrey's safety too.
16:12I mean, he already tried to commit suicide once.
16:14Mm-hmm.
16:16Melissa, what are you looking for in my car?
16:20I'm just looking, ma'am.
16:22You know what?
16:22Open the doors.
16:23You can look all through my car.
16:24I don't have anything.
16:26It's just my work stuff.
16:30You know what?
16:30Melissa, I'm gonna open the doors and you can-
16:32Hey, Melissa.
16:33Melissa, Melissa.
16:33It's really irritating the hell out of me.
16:36Melissa.
16:36Because if you're gonna look in my car, I'll open the doors.
16:38You can look in through my whole car.
16:40Would you mind keeping talking to me while he's just looking around and I'm not even
16:44saying that he's gonna go in your car, but you're okay if he does?
16:47I don't have anything in there for him to-
16:49Yeah.
16:50Exactly.
16:52Oh.
16:53That looks like vomit.
16:56See this right here?
16:57Right under the phone.
16:59What is it?
17:00Oh, the blood?
17:01Yeah.
17:07There's blood in the front seat, so she got this car from him somehow.
17:15You know what?
17:15I'm not gonna answer any more of your questions because-
17:17We're-
17:19Unfortunately, you can't get back in your car right now.
17:21All right?
17:21So you can stay here and talk with me if you'd like.
17:24Ma'am, are you injured at all?
17:26Why would I be injured?
17:27Well, it just looks like there's some blood in the center count, so I'll just make sure
17:30you don't need any medical attention or anything like that.
17:34Do you have any injuries that we need to know about?
17:39You're okay?
17:40Yeah.
17:45So like Detective Knopf said, there's blood in your vehicle.
17:48Do you know where it came from?
17:51Do you know where it came from?
17:57Where is there blood in the car?
18:03I just want to look at it.
18:05I'm not gonna-
18:09Right by the phone.
18:12By my phone?
18:13Whatever-
18:14Who has every phone that is in the middle?
18:15That's my phone.
18:18And it looks like in the trash can as well.
18:23Oh, that might be my lipstick.
18:32I don't think it's blood.
18:34I know it's not blood.
18:35I don't know that it's not blood.
18:38Okay.
18:45Okay.
18:45The phone is paying.
18:47I went right back to the house.
18:53There is a silver focus in the driveway that's registered to your S1's sister, Jasmine Kucharski.
19:01Alright, um, did you see any movement at the house?
19:05No.
19:06Okay.
19:10Who's over at the house right now?
19:12My daughter and her boyfriend.
19:15Jasmine's back.
19:16Okay.
19:17Step over here and talk with me, okay?
19:20I'm gonna let you know what's going on.
19:23You can't tell my car.
19:25I gotta go to work.
19:27You'll find out if you let me talk to you.
19:29Let's go back over here so you can-
19:30No, I need to get my work stuff out of there for my car.
19:33I need to get my purse.
19:34Melissa.
19:35What?
19:35Do you think we're out here for a PPO violation?
19:37I don't know what you are out here.
19:39I honestly don't.
19:40I really swear to God, I don't have any idea.
19:43I don't.
19:44I'm telling you the honest truth.
19:47Alright.
19:47Taylor is dead.
19:49Alright.
19:50And we need to find Jeff before he does something to himself.
19:53Taylor's dead?
19:54Yes.
19:55What?
19:56We're not out here for some little thing.
19:58You're, you're, you're, you're.
19:59You're lying.
19:59I'm not lying.
20:00Oh my gosh.
20:01Are you serious?
20:02Taylor's dead?
20:03Think about everything that's happened in the last hour.
20:06I love Taylor.
20:06At this point, we know that Jeff is involved and he was at your house.
20:12When was the last time you saw Jeff?
20:15I saw Jeff a couple days ago.
20:16Jeff is putting you into the point where you could be an accessory after the fact that
20:20you murdered.
20:21Do you understand that?
20:22I didn't.
20:22I don't know anything.
20:23I don't know anything.
20:25Oh my gosh.
20:25I can't believe Taylor's dead.
20:28We will find him.
20:30We will arrest him for this.
20:32Do you also want to share a cell with him?
20:35I don't know anything.
20:38Please.
20:39Please just don't talk to me, okay?
20:42Please just don't.
20:43Do you want to call me for her?
20:49If you can get her wherever she is most convenient for her, because we're going to head to their
20:55house and deal with Jasmine and Zach and the search warrant and everything related to that.
21:02I could drop you at a hotel if you don't got family.
21:05Are you comfortable with one of the hotels?
21:07Yeah.
21:07I guess so.
21:08Okay.
21:09Before we get in the car, before they really get rolling on that thing, is Jeff going to
21:13pop out behind the door and try to stab one of us?
21:17No.
21:19Be there in a second.
21:29Please come to the front door if there's arms in the air.
21:34Van Buren has just lit up the house and they're doing announcements now.
21:38We'll let you know if anyone comes out.
21:46Oh, we got contact at the front door.
21:50Jasmine?
21:51Yep.
21:52Yeah.
21:53Who's with you, Zach?
21:54Yep.
21:54Keep walking out.
21:58There we go.
21:59She's going to get tied to town.
22:01Okay, you get tied to town.
22:01Okay.
22:01Can you just put your hands on top of the truck hook?
22:03Zach, right?
22:04Okay.
22:05We would like to talk to you guys about something that happened earlier today.
22:09Do not under arrest or anything like that.
22:11And then we'll just have a conversation.
22:12Mike.
22:13Mike.
22:17Hi, Jasmine.
22:18Hi.
22:18Are you warm enough?
22:20Yes.
22:20Okay.
22:22Sorry, I'll block the light here.
22:24It sounds like Jeff and Taylor kind of got into it earlier today.
22:29Have you talked to him or seen him today?
22:33She won't be called to be like...
22:35Okay, I think she said you'll go to the parking lot.
22:38That was when you last talked to him?
22:39I think so, yeah.
22:40Just for my peace of mind, would you mind showing me your phone, like the text message
22:44and the call logs just so I can say he hasn't texted or called her since 3 or whatever?
22:50Is he listed as Jeff or what's he listed under?
22:54Yeah.
22:55Is this you on this side?
22:56Yeah, I think so.
22:58So he said cops are here at 6.53.
23:02You said 20 minutes out.
23:04Lawyer.
23:04Is this you talking to him?
23:05Yeah, I guess.
23:07He said call mom.
23:08Tell her to tell them to leave.
23:10You don't remember that?
23:12I don't know.
23:13Yes.
23:14I don't know.
23:15He was...
23:15Oh, my God.
23:17Now that you mention it, I'm so sorry.
23:18Yeah, I just...
23:20My husband.
23:23He just...
23:23I guess he panics all the time about the cops and I write it off.
23:26How come you told him to get a lawyer?
23:28Because if she said he broke PPO and he didn't, or he did, then he's gonna go back to jail.
23:32And if he goes back to jail for three months, he's just gonna kill himself.
23:47Jasmine, is Jeff inside the house?
23:49No, I don't think so.
23:51I don't know.
23:52We've been gone all day.
23:55All right.
23:55Um, give me just a minute.
23:57I'll be right back.
23:57Okay?
24:02Uh, the dad's just arriving also.
24:04I'm gonna go make contact with him.
24:06Hi.
24:07Hi.
24:07Michael?
24:08Yes.
24:09All right.
24:10All right.
24:11Um...
24:11I'm sorry.
24:12I apologize for everything that is going on here.
24:14My name is Brian Deltman.
24:15I'm a detective.
24:16I know your wife reached out to you at some point.
24:19Have you talked to Jeff at all tonight?
24:21No.
24:22Um, did you have your phone with you?
24:24You know when the last time you would have spoke to him was?
24:27That would be...
24:31April.
24:32Do you guys have any weapons in the house or anything like that?
24:36I...
24:37I do have, uh...
24:39My dad's gone.
24:41Uh, it's a .22.
24:43Okay.
24:44All right.
24:45Hang tight with us for a couple of minutes, okay?
24:49We can go up to the side and come across.
24:51Yep.
24:51Are you ready?
24:52Yep.
24:53Great.
24:54There's a thing to kill.
24:55Let me go.
24:55I'm gonna...
24:59Drone's airborne.
25:14I got your window over here, guys.
25:17I got your window over here, guys.
25:29Anyone inside?
25:31Come to the front door.
25:37Kalamazoo police.
25:38Jeff, come to the front door.
25:44Kalamazoo police.
25:45We have a search warrant.
25:47Anyone inside?
25:48Come to the front door.
25:55Good to go.
25:56Okay.
25:59Kalamazoo police.
25:59Search warrant.
26:00I got the home here.
26:01Chase downstairs.
26:03I'm with you on the left.
26:05Check that corner there.
26:07Slow and steady.
26:10Dad?
26:11Dad, public safety call out, bud.
26:13Wider to the right.
26:16I'm with you.
26:17Yep.
26:17I got a cat over here.
26:20Police search warrant.
26:21Police search warrant.
26:22Call out.
26:25Okay.
26:27Guessing this is the garage?
26:28Yep.
26:30I'm with you for the garage.
26:33Kalamazoo police.
26:34Search warrant.
26:35Anyone inside?
26:36Call out now.
26:38Come on, Jeff.
26:39Call out, buddy.
26:39See?
26:41What is that?
26:42Is that a coat or something?
26:43Looks like a coat rack.
26:45Okay.
26:46Right there.
26:48There's a little puddle here.
26:50Here it is.
26:53Kalamazoo police.
26:55Anyone in the garage, call out now.
27:01Alright.
27:02Clear.
27:05Is that insulation?
27:07Is there a scuttle?
27:08Look up.
27:10Yeah.
27:10There's a scuttle?
27:11Uh, yeah.
27:12Do you see this?
27:13The insulation over here?
27:16Yep.
27:19Okay.
27:20Alright.
27:21We have to step here, step there.
27:24So, we could be up there.
27:26We can definitely go.
27:27Yep.
27:28So, we might want to toss the K9 up in.
27:31So, that's...
27:33It would be tricky to get the K9 up there, but I will say the drone guy was talking a
27:39lot
27:39about how their drones can just go inside and clear.
27:42That might be a good thing for getting that at.
27:45Let's go.
27:46Yeah.
27:55Drones coming up.
27:58Police department, call out if you're in here.
28:01Jeff, can you call out please?
28:03Come on out.
28:09What are you doing?
28:11You're gonna need more height on it, man.
28:29Keep going here.
28:30To the right.
28:31First up.
28:43Hey, Jeff.
28:44What's that in your mouth?
28:46Ovate?
28:47Okay.
28:49Jeff, I want you to drop that knife.
28:51Okay, bud?
28:52Can you put the knife down?
28:56Right there.
28:57Jeff?
28:58Hey, listen.
28:59This is Tim.
29:00I know you're nervous.
29:00I know you're worried about what's going on.
29:03Okay?
29:03We don't...
29:04We're not here to harm you or anything.
29:06We want to help.
29:07That's why we're here.
29:09I told your sister.
29:10I told your dad out front.
29:12We were gonna do everything we could to help you out in this situation.
29:16Okay?
29:20I can tell you right now, I wholeheartedly will let you talk to your dad and your sister
29:24if you want to come down right now.
29:27Okay?
29:30I'd really like it for your safety, for my partner's safety and eyes.
29:35Could we just have you come on down with me right now?
29:39Right now.
29:40Okay.
29:41Okay.
29:42Hey, Tim.
29:43Yes.
29:43Would you let Jeff know, and I know you're making great progress on that.
29:47He's talking with you.
29:49But in the next couple of minutes, unfortunately, if he doesn't start to make his way down,
29:54we are going to open a hole in the garage.
29:58Okay.
30:00Jeff, that's my captain.
30:02But I would like you to just come through this hole, and then that way we can go outside
30:07and have a conversation, and I can get you some water.
30:10Could we do that right now?
30:14We're kind of not going to do the hole more time thing.
30:17Okay?
30:19Unfortunately, I think this might be a little bit loud, but I just want him to be aware
30:24that we're going to be making some noise.
30:26Okay.
30:31Jeff, put the knife down.
30:33Listen to me.
30:34Listen to me.
30:35Drop the knife.
30:36Put the knife down.
30:37Okay?
30:38Put the knife down.
30:41We care about you.
30:44We don't want anything to happen to you.
30:52All these gentlemen are doing is helping you get access down, okay?
30:56Jeff, listen to me.
30:58Okay?
30:59Jeff.
31:02Hey, Jeff.
31:07We got hands.
31:12Jeff.
31:12We got a hole, so come on down in that hole right there if you can.
31:16We're good.
31:17One shooter.
31:17One shooter.
31:19I can't see him, so.
31:21We have coverage, so if you want to move up and take a position elevated, right behind
31:27it.
31:27Okay.
31:28All right.
31:31All right.
31:32Jeff.
31:32Yeah.
31:33Okay.
31:33You see me, bud?
31:34Yeah.
31:35Okay.
31:35Look at me.
31:37Okay.
31:38What is going on down here is them wanting to see that you're okay.
31:43All right?
31:44All the way up.
31:44All the way up.
31:45I want you to drop your knife.
31:47I'll give you a shot.
31:48Come here, holster.
31:49Yep.
31:50I want you to drop your knife down to the floor over there by those guys.
31:55Can you do that?
31:56Just put it down in the garage.
31:59Can you do that for me?
32:00This is Ernie.
32:01I'm up.
32:01You have two people now that are in an insulated roof trying to help you to make sure you're
32:07okay.
32:08Give that to Ernie.
32:12If you just put the knife down, I'll walk over to you and we'll help you get down out
32:20of here.
32:23We can move this ladder to any of these holes.
32:27Okay?
32:27Whatever's easiest.
32:29Okay.
32:30We're just moving.
32:31Have a shot?
32:33No.
32:34We're not even...
32:35Have a shot.
32:37We're not even...
32:38Look at...
32:38I'm not even pointing at you.
32:39Okay.
32:42Now that you can see it face to face, I know that light was probably blind in you.
32:46Could you just set it down for a second and see what happens and then we can just keep
32:49talking?
32:51Okay.
32:54Thank you very much, Jeff.
32:55Could you do me one more thing?
32:57What?
32:58Could you just take your hand and maybe put it on the 2x4 so that you're just not holding
33:01it?
33:01It's still right there, but you're just not holding it.
33:04Could you do that for me?
33:06You're gonna shoot.
33:08You see my hands?
33:10No one even has a gun out.
33:11We're not doing that.
33:12Okay.
33:13Gun's in my holster.
33:15I'm standing here and I'm closer to you because I want you to be able to see that I'm not
33:18trying to play games with you, okay?
33:20I'm not trying to trick you.
33:21I want you to talk to us.
33:22There's no games and I'll trick you.
33:23Okay.
33:24Why can't you guys just kill me?
33:25We don't want to do that and we're not going to do that.
33:29Okay?
33:29It's gonna happen.
33:32Let's go down.
33:33Let's talk to your dad.
33:35Let's talk to your sister.
33:37Just put the knife down.
33:39Okay?
33:40No.
33:41No.
33:41No.
33:43I know we're talking in circles, but why can't you guys just f***ing die?
33:49That's not what we do.
33:50We don't do that.
33:51I can't do something f***ing die.
33:53We don't ever give up, Jeff.
33:54We don't want to.
33:55I'd rather.
33:56Or at least better just be dead.
34:00Get him under power.
34:09Keep him under power.
34:09Got him.
34:13Knife's out.
34:13Knife's out.
34:14Go.
34:15Hit again.
34:16I'm good.
34:18All right.
34:19Knife down.
34:20Knife down.
34:21Good.
34:22All right.
34:23You're good.
34:24Let's get him up before he goes through.
34:26Okay.
34:26Cuffs.
34:28Don't drop him.
34:29Nope.
34:30It's all right.
34:30Watch your foot, Jeff.
34:31Got an extra body?
34:32Yep.
34:33Stand up on the beam.
34:34Stand up on the beam.
34:36Hey, hey, hey.
34:37Hey, you did it.
34:38You did it.
34:39We're here.
34:40You got this.
34:42I'm doing great.
34:43Hold on.
34:44You got this, man.
34:45Hold on with your arms.
34:46Keep going.
34:47You got him?
34:47Yep.
34:48Keep going.
34:50Nope.
34:51Nope.
34:53Jeff, come on.
34:54Let me get the other side.
34:56Watch out.
34:57Keep walking.
34:58Keep walking, bud.
34:58You're okay.
34:59Yep.
34:59Keep walking.
35:01There you go.
35:02Nice job.
35:04Almost there.
35:05Good job.
35:06Yep.
35:06Stay going.
35:07Oh, oh, oh.
35:07Oh, oh.
35:08Jeff.
35:10Watch the drywall there, guys.
35:11Yeah, it's girls.
35:12Come on.
35:13Stand up.
35:14Stand up, Jeff.
35:15Jeff.
35:15Come on.
35:17Heads up, guys.
35:18Can you help?
35:19He's coming down.
35:19Heads up.
35:20Heads up.
35:20We can't.
35:20We reach.
35:21Heads up.
35:21We can try to catch him.
35:23I think Veld and I can probably assist in a lowering here to help with the legs.
35:28Go ahead, Jeff.
35:28You go ahead.
35:29Go ahead, Veld.
35:31You're good?
35:32No.
35:33You're coming down.
35:33You ready?
35:34Yep.
35:34Okay.
35:37Bring him around back.
35:39Yep.
35:45You're okay, bud.
35:49That was awesome.
36:10Let me grab the seat belt from you, okay?
36:13I want to make sure you're safe.
36:17Hey, brother, I'm going to have your sister come back so you can talk to her.
36:20Are you okay with that?
36:21Yeah.
36:21You want to do that?
36:22Sure.
36:23Okay.
36:35Hey.
36:36What's up?
36:38Oh.
36:39You just...
36:39I don't...
36:40I don't know.
36:41I don't know.
36:42I don't know.
36:43I love you still.
36:44I love you too.
36:45I don't know.
36:46I don't know.
36:47I don't know anything.
36:49Yeah.
36:49Maybe.
36:53I don't know what you're going to say to me, but they let me talk to you.
36:56Yeah, I guess so.
36:57I guess just pay my bond.
36:59I bail.
37:02Call some lawyers.
37:03Well, you're genuinely insane, so we might be right on that.
37:08Yeah.
37:09All right.
37:10We're going to get rocking.
37:12Love you.
37:13Good morning.
37:19Jeff, I'm so glad you're sitting here talking to me.
37:22Oh my gosh, man.
37:23You have no idea.
37:26Yeah.
37:37Hey, bud.
37:38Up, I'm out.
37:40We didn't do our heavy orders here.
37:42You want a walk?
37:46Hey, bud.
37:48All right.
37:49Let's go up here.
37:51Sure.
37:52Close?
37:53Close.
37:54So, Jeff, we obviously brought you down here so we could sit down like men.
37:57This is an opportunity for you to give us your side of the story about what happened
38:02here today.
38:04As far as your phone, is your phone up in the attic where you were at or is it somewhere
38:08else in the house?
38:10It's somewhere in the house.
38:11Like where?
38:12I really don't know everything.
38:14Like when the cops came, I just ran into the attic.
38:17It's kind of just like, blur.
38:20And you've been up in the attic since they first showed up?
38:25Yep.
38:25What car did you drive when you drove to your parents' house today?
38:29What car was that that you brought there?
38:31I used Zach and Jasmine's car.
38:33The one that was in the driveway?
38:35Yeah.
38:36Is there any chance that maybe you were in your mom's car?
38:39No.
38:40Are you sure?
38:41Mm-hmm.
38:42You think, who was in your mom's car today then?
38:45My mom?
38:46Yeah.
38:47She had to run some airing.
38:50Well, wouldn't it surprise you if I told you that that car was in Kalamazoo this afternoon?
38:56Your mom's was?
38:58I could show you-
38:58Yeah, she was probably in Kalamazoo.
39:01But she said she wasn't in Kalamazoo.
39:05Mm-hmm.
39:05Mm-hmm.
39:06We've been working since this evening, since this incident happened, bud.
39:10Mm-hmm.
39:11And we can track exactly where you've been.
39:13We know that you didn't take your sister's little gray car.
39:20So, obviously, we didn't just show up at your house randomly today, right?
39:25We know that you were in your mom's 2019 GMC terrain.
39:31We know that you were over on Cork Street with Taylor.
39:35Your mom's car was right here at Cork in Old Cork.
39:39I don't remember that.
39:40You don't remember any of that?
39:41No.
39:42Okay.
39:45I'd like to speak to my lawyers.
39:47Okay.
39:48That's all right.
39:49It's absolutely fine.
39:50Yep.
39:50Okay.
39:52Yep.
39:52That's your right, Matt.
39:53So, what's next?
39:55What's next?
39:56Yep.
39:57Well, you're gonna go to jail.
40:00Mm-hmm.
40:00And then this case will go before the prosecutor's office.
40:04Mm-hmm.
40:04And they'll decide what the appropriate charge is.
40:07Okay.
40:08Okay.
40:08Okay.
40:09A man charged with fatally stabbing his ex-girlfriend has entered a plea for the murder.
40:1328-year-old Taylor was stabbed in the face, head and hands.
40:18Evidence recovered included a bloody knife and bloody clothes.
40:22And Jeffrey Kucharski pleaded guilty today to second-degree murder.
40:26He remains in jail without bond.
40:39Jeffrey Kucharski was sentenced to 60 to 100 years in prison for the murder of his ex-girlfriend, Taylor Dragovich.
40:46Her brother had this to say to Kucharski.
40:49You are a piece of garbage.
40:51And because of what you did to my sister, I can't trust people anymore.
40:56The PPO that she was granted did nothing to protect her.
40:59And he was free to lie in wait and fatally attack her when her defenses were down.
41:04Taylor deserved better.
41:12We want to honor Taylor's generous spirit and beautiful soul as we bring awareness to the seriousness of domestic violence.
41:22She shouldn't be in a cemetery at 29.
41:25She should be here.
41:27So we're honoring the 28 years we were lucky enough to have her here.
41:33I miss her smile.
41:34I miss her laugh.
41:35That's the essence of her, yeah.
41:37Just that big smile.
41:38And she had it on all the time.
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