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00:00You filed a restraining order against your mother?
00:03Yeah.
00:04Because she don't want her to see the kids, which I understand why.
00:07Excuse me? I raised my daughter. She was never in foster home.
00:12Would have been better.
00:13What?
00:14Do you have any idea how selfish that sounds?
00:16She can stay her way, I can stay my way.
00:19I want you to use your ears, not your mouth.
00:22This is Judy Justice.
00:39This is Judy Justice.
01:00You're welcome.
01:01Mr. and Mrs. Whelan?
01:02Yes, ma'am.
01:03This gentleman and your daughter have two children together.
01:06Yes, ma'am.
01:06Yes, they do.
01:07And they are still a couple, is that correct?
01:09Yes, ma'am.
01:10You're not married?
01:11No, ma'am.
01:12Mr. Garrett either raises or breeds dogs. What are they called?
01:16Bullies, bulldogs.
01:18How long have you been either breeding, you breed them?
01:21Not breed them, I sent them off to get bred, so someone else breeds them.
01:25You bought a dog that's the subject of this case.
01:29Male or a female?
01:30It was a male at the time.
01:32And who did you buy it from?
01:33I bought it off Marketplace.
01:35Yeah, yeah.
01:36So it was like a, basically, it's a group called Bully Minnesota.
01:41I bought it off of there.
01:42When did you purchase it?
01:44August 23rd.
01:45Of this year or a year ago?
01:47A year ago, last year.
01:48And at some point, just so that we understand the social part of this case, you and the plaintiffs, according
01:56to them, have not gotten along?
01:58Never.
01:59Never?
02:00That fair to say?
02:01I wouldn't say never.
02:03But we do not get along.
02:04You've got to get along.
02:05Do you see your grandchildren?
02:07Not any longer, unfortunately.
02:10Okay.
02:10Had you before this incident?
02:12Yes.
02:13Really?
02:14Okay.
02:15This is what your case is about.
02:16It is your claim that the defendant, for one reason or another, couldn't keep this dog and gave it to
02:23you.
02:24Correct.
02:25And gave it to you in late May of 2024.
02:29Do you remember the date?
02:31We was moving.
02:32So basically, I had asked someone to try to figure out somewhere for him to go.
02:38Was that your only dog?
02:39Uh, yeah, it was the only dog at the time that I had, yep.
02:41Okay.
02:42So what date was it that...
02:44Uh, we moved into our apartment, I'll say about May 1st.
02:48So it was along the lines of April or somewhere near there, like the end of April.
02:53Correct.
02:53Okay, well, she says it was May that you contacted them about taking the dog.
02:59Uh, me personally, I never contacted her because I never got along with her.
03:04Her mother.
03:05Your mother contacted you.
03:06That's correct.
03:07Well, that's difficult.
03:09Okay.
03:10You never had any conversation with him about the dog?
03:14No, but I had conversation with my daughter, Courtney.
03:17She didn't buy the dog?
03:19No.
03:19He did?
03:20I don't know who bought the dog.
03:21Is that right, Courtney?
03:23He bought the dog.
03:24Yeah, he bought...
03:28Uh, yeah.
03:29He bought the dog, but I re...
03:31When I found out that my grandmother, her mother, um, contacted her and she said she
03:37would watch the dog, then I reached out to her, um, to see when we could bring the dog
03:43to her or if she was picking the dog up.
03:45Okay.
03:45And do you remember what date that was?
03:48I don't remember the date, but I do have the messages on my phone.
03:51Could I see it?
03:52Yeah.
03:53Well, you just look at your phone and tell me.
03:56Um, I asked her if she was going to take Paco April 22nd, uh, 2023.
04:03Okay.
04:04And can you read me the messages back and forth?
04:07Yes.
04:08So, April 22nd, I said, were you going to take Paco?
04:12And she replied, uh, yeah, when can we get him?
04:15And I said, when are you able to?
04:18And then the next day, April 23rd, she said today.
04:21And then I said, okay, I have to do some things after work, um, and then I can get all
04:26of his stuff together around dinner time.
04:29Okay.
04:29Now, was that the first message?
04:31Because watching a dog, because you're moving, or giving a dog away are two entirely different
04:36things.
04:37That's what this case is about.
04:38Mm-hmm.
04:39I personally never agreed to give him away.
04:42That's where the whole confusion came.
04:44I got it.
04:45So, you never had a conversation with the dog's owner about making a gift to you of this dog?
04:52I had a conversation with him when he, uh...
04:55When?
04:55The transfer of the dog.
04:57You, with him?
04:58Yes, ma'am.
04:58Okay.
04:59Tell me about, tell me about that.
05:01And, um, me and Charles, as he was getting out of the vehicle, and he was getting the dog
05:06cage for Paco tank, I looked him in his eyes, and it was a man's verbal agreement.
05:11I said, look, Charles...
05:12No, no, no, no, no.
05:12Don't tell me what, a man's verbal agreement.
05:15Yes, ma'am.
05:15You said he was getting?
05:17Yes, ma'am.
05:18He's unloading this.
05:20The dog, the dog is getting, uh, transferred out of the vehicle to me, into my custody.
05:25And I had said to, uh, Charles, I said, Charles, I said, if I take responsibility for this dog,
05:32I'm not giving this dog back.
05:34He said, oh, that's okay, ma'am.
05:36We're not allowed to have it at our new apartment, and I have a second child coming in.
05:40It's okay.
05:41I don't have time for this dog anymore.
05:43Do you remember...
05:44Shh, just a second.
05:45Do you remember that conversation, sir?
05:47All I will say is I don't remember because, like I said, I was in a hurry to get home.
05:52No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
05:54Let's get back.
05:54Did you drop the dog off and exchange it with Mr. Weiland?
06:02Yes, I did.
06:03Just a second.
06:04And now, and you know what the situation is now.
06:07He has just recounted to me that you said all the things, we can't have the dog in our new
06:15apartment.
06:15Courtney, is that correct?
06:18Just listen to me.
06:22I want you to use your ears, not your mouth, because I believe he said, well, if you have
06:27a dog two months, you don't clean the ears, they get an infection.
06:29They took the dog to the vet two days after they got him.
06:33Uh-huh is not an answer.
06:44Tara and William Whelan are suing their son-in-law, Charles Garrett, for the cost of a dog, vet
06:52bills, and filing a false restraining order.
06:55Now, that's a very simple question.
06:57Can you have the dog in your new apartment?
07:00No.
07:01And there was a second child coming along.
07:04Correct.
07:04So, those things buttress what Mr. Weiland has just told me, that at the exchange, you
07:13live in a place where you can't have a dog, so now it becomes clear.
07:18Mr. Garrett.
07:19Yes, ma'am.
07:20You see how things change?
07:22Things change from the time you walk into that door and the time you get a little information.
07:26So, what appears to have happened was you took the dog.
07:30Yes, ma'am.
07:30And you had the dog for about a month and a half.
07:33Uh, going two and a half.
07:34About a month.
07:35Maybe two months.
07:36And then, from what I read, so cut to the chase, from what I read, your mother moved into the
07:45same apartment complex that they live in.
07:48In me, yep.
07:49And your mother, therefore, could have a dog.
07:53Yes, ma'am.
07:53So, you decided that it would be best for the dog to go with your mother.
08:00Yep, but the whole...
08:01Yeah, just a second.
08:02That's what this is about.
08:03Mm-hmm.
08:04So, somehow, the authorities got involved.
08:07Did authorities get involved?
08:08Yep.
08:08Yes, ma'am.
08:08The authorities got involved, transferred the dog back to you, and it's the dog with your
08:14mother now?
08:14The dog is so old.
08:16I don't want anything to even do with the dog.
08:17That's what I do.
08:18I sell them.
08:19I made them.
08:20Sell the puppies.
08:21Just a second.
08:21I want you to go slowly, because I'm old.
08:24Oh, I got you.
08:25You...
08:25Sorry.
08:25You took the dog back to give to your mother.
08:29Mm-hmm.
08:30Uh-huh is not an answer.
08:32Yes, ma'am.
08:33And then what happened to the dog after that?
08:36The dog after that, uh...
08:38Just a second.
08:39She's listening to you, and she's not going to say anything that's not true.
08:45Yep.
08:46So, you better...
08:47What happened to the dog after you gave it to your mother?
08:50Oh, she was living...
08:51He was living with my mom for about two, three months.
08:54Two to three months?
08:55Yep.
08:55And then what happened?
08:57Uh, well, she kept harassing my mom and walking their dog every time that we'll walk Paco.
09:02So, basically, he's not sold, but I had gave him to my sister to watch until we move,
09:09because we'll be moving soon.
09:10I got you.
09:11Now I know exactly what happened.
09:13He did, in fact, say to you when he transferred the dog to you, and you were clear with him.
09:17You said, listen, I'm not taking responsibility.
09:19You have another dog.
09:20Yes, ma'am.
09:21Yes.
09:21I'm not taking responsibility for this dog, because there's lots to do with the dog.
09:25Unless this is going to be our dog.
09:28Yes.
09:29Right now, it's not clear.
09:30You don't have anything on your messages that said this is just, you're just watching the dog for us.
09:35Is that right?
09:36Not in those words, no.
09:38Right.
09:38Okay.
09:39So, this is what your lawsuit is about.
09:41Your lawsuit says you want the value of the dog.
09:44Mm.
09:44Right.
09:44Why?
09:45I'm just asking you why.
09:46You used to see, you see, my problem is, what he did was make you a gift, and then he
09:53took back the gift.
09:55Yes, you did.
09:56You made him a gift.
09:57I find that that conversation took place.
09:59You may have changed your mind, changed your mind with your mother, and then you changed your mind with your
10:03sister, and the sister's going to have the dog for three months.
10:05Before you know it, this dog is going to be really, really screwed up going from your house to their
10:10house, to your mother's house, to your sister's house, and then someplace, maybe back to your house.
10:16You shouldn't have a dog.
10:18That's what I do.
10:18You shouldn't have a dog.
10:20What do you think happens to a child within the first year of their life?
10:24At first, they go to live with one person, and they attach to that one person, and then three months
10:31later, you say, well, we're going to send you to another person, and they attach to that person, because that's
10:36what they do.
10:37That's what children do.
10:38That's what dogs do.
10:39And then three months later, you take it, and you say, nah, I think I'm going to give this one
10:42to my sister to watch for me for a while.
10:45And then they attach to yet a third person, and then when you finally decide to be responsible, you say,
10:52well, now, we're moving to a new place.
10:54I'm not exactly sure when, but then we're going to take the dog back from my sister.
10:59You know how selfish that sounds?
11:01Do you have any idea how selfish that sounds?
11:03You have two children?
11:06Can you imagine the scenario of your children going from one foster home to another every three months?
11:12Can you imagine what that would do to your child?
11:14I said, that's what you've done to the dog.
11:15Kind of like her daughter.
11:17What?
11:17It's kind of like her daughter.
11:19That's what she did to her daughter, so, I mean, you can't really compare it to that.
11:22I raised my daughter.
11:24She was never in foster home.
11:26Shh, shh, shh, shh, just a second.
11:28Okay.
11:28Would have been better.
11:33All right, there were reasons for everything.
11:36I would like to see you bought the dog, when you bought it, and how much you paid for it.
11:39Yep, that's right there.
11:47So, is it my understanding that you paid $650 for the dog?
11:52Uh, I talked him down a little bit.
11:54I talked him down a little bit, negotiated with him.
11:55What did you finally pay for the dog?
11:57Uh, $500.
11:58Now, when you were finally required to turn the dog back over to him, according to what I read, he
12:05gave you some money for the dog food and for what?
12:09Yes, I did.
12:10Be quiet.
12:11Yes, ma'am.
12:11How much did he give you?
12:13He gave me $200 in cash.
12:15Okay, when you got the dog, you took the dog to the vet.
12:19Yes, ma'am.
12:20You have a vet bill?
12:21Yes.
12:21I'd like to take a look at it.
12:23May I say something, ma'am?
12:25Uh, when we received the dog, I noticed that the dog was in really rough shape.
12:30I, I, I, I understand.
12:31I just wanted to elaborate on, the, the dog came to us with double ear infections and everything else, and
12:37it, it, it stayed in there.
12:40Also, if you don't clean his ears within those two months, of course, it's going to build up.
12:46He was severely dehydrated.
12:48Just, just a second.
12:49None of that is true.
12:50They took the dog to the vet two days after they got him.
12:54Mm-hmm.
12:54I don't know what, I don't know what they did.
12:56So, I want you to use your ears, not your mouth.
12:59Mm-hmm.
13:00Because I believe he said, well, if you have a dog two months, you don't clean the ears, they get
13:03an infection.
13:04They took the dog to the vet two days after they got him.
13:07Mm-hmm.
13:08Uh-huh is not an answer.
13:10Yes, ma'am, I'm sorry.
13:11Okay, so they gave you medication for both the ears and an infection.
13:15Correct.
13:16And he gave you $200?
13:18Yes, ma'am.
13:19What did you do with it?
13:20Um, ma'am, I, uh.
13:22I know what you did with it.
13:23I ripped it up, ma'am.
13:25Ripped it up.
13:25In the heat of the moment.
13:26He don't want it.
13:26Okay.
13:27God, that's what it says in the paper.
13:28Yes, ma'am.
13:29But it needed to appear on the record.
13:31And that was for food.
13:32That was for food.
13:33Well, the dog probably, in the two months that you had spent, probably spent a couple of years.
13:38A couple of hundred dollars for food.
13:40It was more than that, ma'am.
13:41Maybe.
13:44This is his signature.
13:45He filed it June 18th, 2024.
13:48I don't remember signing that.
13:49If you need a psychiatrist or a neurologist, that's not my problem.
13:52You filed it.
13:53I mean, nobody could make this up, fool.
14:06Tara and William Whelan have accused their son-in-law, Charles Garrett, of wrongfully removing their dog and filing a
14:15false restraining order against them.
14:17Okay.
14:17He made a gift of the dog to you.
14:20Yes, ma'am.
14:21There was a clear understanding between you personally and the defendant.
14:25I don't care about your daughter or your mother-in-law or your wife.
14:30But there was a clear understanding with you, to whom he turned over the dog, that this wasn't, I'm going
14:36to watch until you get ready.
14:37I'm going to take care of the dog.
14:39No givebacks, and his response to you that you outlined to me was totally consistent with the fact they were
14:45moving into a place where they couldn't have dogs.
14:49Your daughter confirmed that.
14:50They still are living in the same place where they can't have dogs.
14:55He clearly doesn't like you, and clearly you're not crazy about him.
15:00So when, opportunistically, his mother moved from where she was living into your complex so she could have a dog,
15:06he said, I'm going to give the dog to my mother rather than them.
15:09Yes, ma'am.
15:09Kept it for a while.
15:11Now, so you're entitled to what he paid for the dog.
15:13And he paid $500 for the dog.
15:15That's what he said.
15:16So that's what I'm awarding you for the dog.
15:18Plus the vet bill, which was $195.
15:22Now, you say the rest of your complaint is about filing a false restraining order.
15:28Yes, ma'am.
15:28Yes.
15:28Did you file a restraining order against him?
15:31I never filed one, so I don't even know where that came from.
15:34Just a second.
15:35You filed a restraining order against your parents?
15:38Parent.
15:39He's not my father, but yeah.
15:41Against your mother?
15:42Yeah.
15:42You filed a restraining order, but you're not a party to this proceeding.
15:46No, this is, it doesn't have anything to do with the dog.
15:49This is just simply because it's just adds on.
15:52Just a second.
15:53The last part of your complaint is filing a false report that caused a temporary restraining order to be issued.
16:01Yeah.
16:01But he has to be the one that filed the false restraining order.
16:05He did.
16:05Okay.
16:06He did?
16:07Yes.
16:07Yes, he did.
16:07Well, then, let me see what he did.
16:21So what you're saying is you never filed a restraining order.
16:24Take a look at this.
16:25There's too much to file one, so I know, and me.
16:33Yeah, I never filed one, so.
16:35That was one I.
16:36This is when she filed it.
16:38I never personally filed one, and I even told them I don't want to be a part of it, so
16:41I don't even know why my name's on here.
16:44This is between her, her daughter, and my mother, and my children.
16:47May I see that, please?
16:47That's nothing to do with me.
16:49So I don't even know why my name's on there.
16:51Well, I'm looking at the signature on the signature page of the restraining order.
16:59Oh, yeah, that's your signature.
17:01I never knew that I was even on a restraining order.
17:04She can stay her way, I can stay my way.
17:07I don't need no restraining order, so I don't even know how that came about.
17:10But I know with her and her daughter and my two children, that's probably why, because she don't want her
17:16to see the kids, which I understand why.
17:19You are Charles Garrett, aren't you?
17:20Yes, ma'am, I am.
17:22Okay, and this is Charles Garrett, petitioner against Tara Weiland.
17:27And even if it's not one...
17:296-6-2024.
17:32That's the day we got Paco back, yep.
17:34What happened with this case?
17:35It was dismissed, he never showed.
17:37But if possible, I am going to file another one, so I ain't even got a deal with none of
17:41this no more.
17:42You filed this one, sir.
17:44Well, it wasn't dismissed.
17:45Ours got denied, so then we petitioned it to see why it got denied.
17:49He signed this, he filed the petition.
17:52This is his signature, he filed it, June 18th, 2024.
17:56I don't remember signing it.
17:57Well, so I...
17:59Listen, if you need a psychiatrist or a neurologist, that's not my problem.
18:03You filed it, you outlined, I mean, nobody could make this up, fool.
18:09I might have, I don't recall, though, so...
18:12Right.
18:12Did you hire an attorney?
18:13I know personally, I never filed it, though.
18:14Well, be quiet.
18:15Did you hire an attorney?
18:17No, ma'am.
18:17You just went to court?
18:19Yeah.
18:19And it was dismissed, he never showed up?
18:21Correct.
18:22I had a restraining order that was placed on me that was supposed to be by my daughter,
18:27by his mother, and by him, after I placed a restraining order only on his mother.
18:33And she was trespassed from my place of employment as well.
18:37It was retaliation.
18:38So it was kind of retaliation, yeah.
18:41Whatever it is.
18:42And they were all dismissed.
18:42Whatever it is.
18:45The $695 is for the dog, because he did, in fact, give the dog to, sir, I believe what
18:50you're saying to me.
18:50And I'm fining him $2,000 for filing a restraining order that he did clearly file several months
18:55ago, that for some, uncross your arms, that for some reason or other now he doesn't remember
19:01and denies ever doing.
19:03But he clearly did.
19:05Right, Courtney?
19:06Correct.
19:07Right.
19:07Okay, $2,695.
19:10Judgment for the plaintiff.
19:11We're finished here.
19:12Thank you, ma'am.
19:12This court is adjourned.
19:19She should have never gotten nothing, but it is what it is.
19:22I mean, I can't fight with it.
19:24I'm just happy that they happy now.
19:26I'm very grateful for her decision.
19:28I filed it on my own reasons, because I don't want her to keep harassing me or my children,
19:33and I just don't want any connection with her anymore.
19:37Just very hurt that my daughter is still bullheaded.
19:41Just leave me alone.
19:42That's all that is, man.
19:44It's in God's hands, and faith will bring us together.
19:48Case had two parts for me, Sarah.
19:50The first one was irresponsible people should never be pet owners.
19:53And, you know, certain dogs, in my opinion, have potentially dangerous tendencies if they're not raised appropriately, physiologically.
20:04And this man bought a pit bull and has transferred it from one person to another.
20:11So it's bonded and then taken away.
20:14It's bonded and then taken away.
20:15And you wonder why an animal gets crazy, acts out after being, certainly I believe the dog was treated well
20:25with the plaintiffs.
20:26They cared enough about it that within two days they took it to the vet, they felt that the animal
20:32wasn't appropriate weight, that it was annoyed in the ears.
20:38They spent money, clearly, in anticipation of keeping the dog.
20:43He's just not a nice guy.
20:47It was so funny.
20:48My feeling when I looked at the papers and what actually happened was so totally different.
20:53You never know what you're going to get until they're in front of you.
20:56On paper, it seemed pretty clear, but then there's a story unfolded, but your initial impression was so, you know,
21:03you can't judge a book by its cover.
21:05Got to get the information out for it.
21:07And the second part of that case is so sad because the daughter had clearly allowed her parents, her mother,
21:16to see the grandchildren up until the time of this incident.
21:19It's just unfortunate that, not that a dog isn't important, but something as small in comparison to a grandparent's relationship
21:27with a grandchild, as small as a dog and its ownership could ruin that relationship for both of them.
21:33Yes, but Courtney told the truth and wanted to say to her, whether it's true or not, 25 years from
21:38now, you're not going to know the person standing to your immediate right.
21:43That would be the father of her children, but that person's always going to be your mother.
21:48Choices. It's all about choices.
21:50It's all about choices.
21:51Well, the kids and the, that's certainly that poor dog is suffering as a result of people's poor choices. That's
21:58unfortunate.
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