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The Claudia Winkleman Show S01E04 (2026)
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00:13I
00:18Have just discovered that a dog called Rupert is scared of his local butchers apparently not uncommon message me
00:25If you would like more details anyway, we have a very lovely audience and some brilliant guests are joining us
00:31on the sofa
00:32He's extremely funny. He's here to talk about his latest stand-up tour. It's Russell Howard
00:49And Loki she has a brand-new film fuse it's goo goo and battle rock
00:55Oh
01:05And singer who is behind everything from Sleepless in Seattle to Mamma Mia. She has a new album out. It's
01:12Rita Wilson
01:13Oh
01:23Best known for x-men filth and atonement. He's just directed his very first film. It's the brilliant James McAvoy
01:39Thank you
01:41Thank you
01:45Thank you
02:01Theodore it was absolutely fantastic
02:03Yeah, so when you come back you like I remember this little shop or I want to have this soup
02:09from here
02:09Oh, no, no, you have to understand like I was on a student's budget
02:12And so in in America we have this thing called the freshman 10 which is when you go off to
02:18college you immediately gain 10 pounds
02:20And I definitely had that because my diet was like mcditties mcvitties
02:25Did I say mcditties?
02:26I like mcditties
02:27Yes, we're going to mcditties
02:29Yes, we're going to mcditties
02:29Yes, we're going to mcditties
02:30But that was mcditties
02:31We all did that in freshman year
02:36I'll have the double ditty
02:38I'll have the double ditty
02:40And an STD test
02:42But mcditties was also mcdonald's because it was like french fries or mcditties
02:46That was my diet and my body loved it. Yeah, you were like, thank you. I will yes exactly give
02:52me more of these Russell
02:53Uh for you Bristol or London?
02:56Well, I'm from Bristol so I you know I prefer Bristol but it's no I like I like London. I'm
03:02a fan
03:03I I got I got mugged here once it was the most but it was the most middle-class mugging
03:08So a friend of mine had she'd just given birth so I got some cupcakes
03:12So I'm carrying these cupcakes up this hill and this kid's probably about 15 really pasty looking kid just stands
03:18in front of me and goes
03:19Oi
03:21You better give me one of them cupcakes
03:25I
03:25Suddenly kind of went you can't have them that's my friend. She's just given birth
03:29This kid suddenly went I'm sorry tell her congratulations
03:35Such a beautiful moment
03:44I'd argue that Glasgow is the best town. I've had the best night of my life. I mean you could
03:48also get in an argument about that in Glasgow
03:50Yeah
03:52That sounds like I'm slagging off my hometown. It is it's the best it is it's fantastic a man from
03:57Latvia carried me above his head in Glasgow
04:00No, it's just the most fun everybody there wants you to have a good time. They're incredibly proud of Glasgow
04:06Yeah, if Irish people hadn't already invented the crack we would be inventing the crack
04:12Google you have been to Scotland. I yeah, I went to Glasgow actually the first time
04:18When I was 11 I was on I don't know if anybody remembers the
04:24Children's game show fun house. Oh, yes, anybody remember that? Yeah, yeah
04:28What was fun house? It was a game show like it there was the red team and the yellow team.
04:33It was presented by Pat Sharp. Yeah
04:36Twins kind of cheerleaders Melanie and Martina
04:39Oh my god, yeah
04:42Did you win what what could you win like the twins?
04:46We won. We won. I remember this really like dates it now. I won like an Amstrad PC
04:52Yes
04:53I won like dry sloped skiing lessons
04:58Which I can say
04:59What is this so depressing?
05:03Okay, now Google is it true that you start every day with with a power pose?
05:08Oh, I mean not every day, but I do love a power pose. What does that mean? Tell me I
05:14Oh my gosh
05:15I watched this TED talk a few years ago about the idea of you know how to change your mood
05:20by changing your posture or changing your body
05:22And you know that if you can kind of you slump your shoulders and you know you love some
05:26Well, you can also just feel a bit more down or a bit more kind of depressed
05:36But if you want like a quick way to kind of just trick your you know your body into feeling
05:41and your mind into feeling more uplifted
05:43You can do a power pose. I prefer the sort of it's a bit hard to do in this dress
05:47But like the arms out kind of like, you know show me to the universe can everyone do it everyone
05:52can do it if you're able join us
05:54Yeah, technically you should stand up. Okay, and just kind of like
05:57Great
05:58Arms up in a V
05:59Yes
06:00Chest to the sky and just like just breathe for a second
06:04Feel like I'm in a cult
06:05Yeah
06:06Feel like I'm in a cult
06:06Do you feel like a little bit more confident? A little bit more like joyful?
06:10I do
06:13Okay, it worked
06:14It worked
06:15That was an Oprah
06:16I love that
06:17It worked
06:21Yeah
06:21So thank you very much for the power post James McAvoy just directed your first film
06:26Did yes
06:30Why this film?
06:32Why that? Oh man, there's many many reasons why this film
06:34I knew I wanted to make films about
06:36We pull from lower income backgrounds
06:39Council estates or schemes as we call them in Scotland
06:42Which is why I call it California scheming and
06:45And there was just nothing coming in that was getting me excited that was going to be funny and entertaining
06:50as well as about the realities of coming from that kind of community
06:53And then California scheming came along and it just did everything that I needed to do
06:59It's so much heart. It had so much comedy. It's so much pathos
07:03But then it was also kind of about one of the reasons that I think we maybe don't have more
07:08Scottish films more regularly
07:09And that to me was just like a perfect package
07:13Unbelievably it is a true story tell everybody what it's about
07:17Two young guys from Dundee extremely talented rappers ninja rappers and they answered a big casting call for a big
07:25record label down in London back in the early
07:27Noughties like 2002 2003 and they got about halfway through one of their excellent tracks and they got stopped and
07:34laughed at and
07:36They were they were labeled as the rapping proclaimers
07:39and so they took yeah, right so they were devastated but they took the note and they went we've got
07:45it sacrifice and integrity sacrifice and authenticity
07:48Sacrifice everything that is important to the culture of hip-hop, which is the streets that made you and they
07:54came back as Americans and they
07:56They basically became
07:59They came back as method actors and they re-recorded all their tracks. They didn't change the tracks
08:04It was the same music just with an American accent and they got a record deal for tens of thousands
08:09of pounds
08:09They cut six albums. They supported Eminem D 12. They played all over the country
08:14They were on MTV umpteen times with the plan that when they were making it big enough
08:19They would go on in their minds Jonathan Ross and they would come out and expose the industry for being
08:25I don't know obsessed with the norm
08:28Yeah, and and then of course that didn't quite happen and they got into the fame and it was two
08:32and a half years of being in character
08:34Constantly and if I don't know if you know any method actors, but it's not the best thing for your
08:39mental health
08:39I wouldn't suggest
08:40I reckon they were ever tickled
08:44Because your real voice would surely come out
08:46Fucking leave me alone you bastard
08:48I mean
08:50Shall we have a look at the trailer?
08:53We would like to sign you
08:55Get the bubbles
08:57They actually think you're American
08:58Yeah
08:59But how your accents are pure shite
09:01I know
09:01We'll release a single and then we'll come out fully Scottish and expose those wankers
09:12Everyone loves you
09:16I think I'm gonna screw them soon up
09:19Let's go
09:20You're sick of positions you're in
09:21You're sick of being kicked in the ribs in the chin
09:23You're sick of sticking in tricky predicaments
09:26Time to rip the script and go
09:27Time to rip the script and go
09:31Time to rip the script and go
09:32Thank you
09:34Thank you guys
09:35Cheers
09:35It's a really
09:36It's a really personal film to me
09:38So I'm really glad that you have us on to talk about it
09:41Thank you Claudia
09:41Well I like the fact not at all that I read that you said sometimes the biggest thing in the
09:45room
09:46Is an accent
09:47Well I think sometimes the
09:49You're a person when you walk into a room right
09:51And you are you have infinite possibilities
09:53You can you're capable of anything
09:55In the eyes of the people that you're with
09:57And then whatever it is that makes you different
09:59Sometimes just turns you into that thing only
10:02And that becomes bigger than your potential
10:04Bigger than you as an individual
10:06And I think for Scottish people
10:07This isn't every room you walk into as a Scottish person
10:10It's not every reaction I get
10:11But I definitely walked into a room and suddenly
10:13I go from being somebody who might get the job
10:17And suddenly I'm just a wee accent
10:19And it becomes a bit reductive
10:21And they kind of just make you tiny
10:22And make you just that one thing
10:24And that sort of came over at that point
10:26And look I get it like you know
10:28There are people who suffer forms of discrimination
10:30Way way way way way way way worse than that
10:33But it's the voice of an entire nation
10:35That takes in many people of different colours
10:38Creeds genders sexualities all sorts of things
10:41And that voice I think sometimes gets reduced
10:44Rather than being heard for six million people
10:47I'd love to see more Scottish films
10:48That's great
10:50I agree
10:51Thank you
10:54Have you personally
10:55Have you personally ever been told to sort of
10:59Turn it down?
11:00Oh I've been literally told to turn it down
11:03And I was playing a particularly famous Scottish role
11:08As a Scottish person
11:09And was you know
11:10Was asked to do it as a Scottish person
11:12Which was great and brilliant
11:13And I'm in rehearsals
11:15And the director said to me
11:16I won't do his accent
11:17Because it's reductive
11:19Even though if you paid me I would
11:22How much do you know?
11:25I ain't cheap Claudia
11:27And he goes
11:29Just so you know James
11:30Every now and again
11:31When we're on the day
11:32I might just ask you to
11:33And I was like
11:34What do you mean?
11:35He went Scotty
11:37Scotty
11:38Scotty
11:38Scotty
11:38And he did that voice as well
11:40And I was just like
11:41What a walloper
11:42Wow
11:43Yeah
11:44What a walloper
11:44That's a very good word
11:46How did you find
11:49Directing for the first time
11:50And acting
11:51Because I imagine that is
11:53That's juggling
11:53I wouldn't wish directing
11:54And acting on my worst enemy
11:56When I see people at Bradley Cooper
11:57Played big huge leading roles
11:59In the directing
11:59I'm like
12:00You must have a self-harming thing
12:02You know
12:03Yeah
12:04It was a nightmare
12:05It was like
12:05You'd literally be going
12:07Oh I need more love
12:08Or I need more comedy
12:09Or I need more connection
12:10Or whatever
12:11And somebody's whispering
12:12And you're going
12:12We can't get the port-a-loose for tomorrow
12:14So we have to change
12:15We have to change the location
12:17Because if anybody needs a shit
12:19We won't be able to make it happen
12:22And you're like
12:23Okay
12:24Okay
12:24And if you could just
12:25Have more love in your eyes
12:27Right now
12:28And actually
12:29Where's the Nina shitter
12:30And yeah
12:31It was mental
12:32And then you're having to go and act
12:34And then you're on your weight
12:34You're marked
12:35Somebody's giving you more chat
12:36About the port-a-loose
12:37And it was
12:38It was a lot
12:39I had no idea
12:40The director has to deal with the toilet facilities
12:42There was a lot of talk about
12:44There was a lot of talk about toileting
12:49I like the fact that you
12:50Because you didn't have the biggest budget
12:52You were careful
12:53And you had to fill a stadium
12:55Right?
12:56Or you had to fill a huge venue of 2,000 people
12:582,000 people at the Battlelands
12:59Yeah, it was amazing
13:00And we were like
13:01You know
13:02I did a tournament
13:03Which had, I don't know
13:04Tens of millions in the budget
13:05And we could only manage
13:06Manage like
13:07What is that?
13:07A thousand extras on that?
13:08And we needed 2,000
13:10Which would have cost us
13:11I was informed one day
13:12Maybe offhand
13:12It was 350 grand
13:14Which we couldn't do
13:15So we ended up putting on a gig
13:17Ourselves
13:18Roddy and Tommy
13:19Roddy Hurt
13:20And Tommy Riley
13:21Who are amazing musicians
13:22And composers up in Glasgow
13:23Put together a sort of
13:24Local super band
13:25We advertised it
13:27And we got 2,000 Glaswegians to come
13:29Wow
13:30And dress in the Knotties outfits
13:32Put their phones away
13:33And jam out to this amazing
13:35Knotties gig that we put on
13:36With this Glasgow super band
13:37And then
13:37If you would
13:38Stay for a couple of
13:40Tracks from our boys
13:41And we thought
13:42You know
13:43We'll get a couple of takes
13:44And 5 cameras
13:45And we'll get as much as we can
13:46And the Glasgow crowd
13:47Stayed for 2 hours
13:48Oh wow
13:49And our boys
13:50Just ended up putting on a real gig
13:51And it was electric
13:52That's so great
13:53It was amazing
13:53And they do this thing Glasgow
13:54I don't know if they did it back then
13:57But they do this thing Glasgow at gigs
13:58Where we go
14:00If we appreciate what you do
14:02We shout
14:02Can I swear?
14:03Yeah
14:03You can bleep it out
14:04We shout en masse
14:052,000 people
14:06Hear me
14:06Hear me
14:07Hear me
14:08Hear me
14:08Hear me
14:09Hear me
14:09Fucking go
14:10And they just chant it at the singers
14:12And they did it for our boys
14:14And so
14:14Even though I don't think it was the right time period
14:16For that
14:17We stuck it in the film
14:18Yeah
14:20You can't not put that in the movie
14:22It's amazing
14:23I don't think you know that
14:25This was a movie about rappers
14:27But
14:28Maybe my agents didn't get to you
14:32I do spit some flow James
14:34Have you got some fat bars?
14:38I have some fat bars
14:39I mean you're asking us to ask you to spit some right now
14:41Yes
14:41Are you going to?
14:43Can you spit?
14:43I'm going to spit some flow right now
14:44Shall I spit some flow?
14:50I might need audience participation
14:53What do you need us to do?
14:54And I just want to put into brackets
14:56We haven't been drinking
14:57I know
14:58I need a beat
15:02You drew a picture of my morning
15:03But you couldn't make my day
15:04I'm walking in your nine
15:06But you never look my way
15:07I'm looking down you darling
15:08And every single eight
15:09Your funny flow is falling
15:10And your brain comes on the way
15:11This ain't got shit to do with shampoo
15:13So watch your head and shoulder
15:14You're the older
15:15Bold enough to fold your yo
15:16I told you
15:17I'm late afraid of what I made
15:18And played it for some funky tricks
15:19So say you're flipping big
15:20Put that music in the funky bricks
15:22Drink up from the bill town
15:23Ill town
15:24So that's how it feels now
15:25The deals that were real
15:26So we're still round
15:27Don't lamp with your freestyle phantom
15:28Ain't trying to be handsome
15:30Think of what you're thinking
15:31Cause I'm vamping
15:32I live and die for hip-hop
15:33This is hip-hop for today
15:34I give props to hip-hop
15:36So hip-hop
15:37Hooray
15:42Hooray
15:43Hooray
15:44Hooray
15:45Hooray
15:48Hooray
15:49Oh my
15:50márkur
15:51I mean in the sequels
15:52Does going to be a sequel?
15:53In the sequels
15:55Yes I think you can bring the mother in
15:57I did not know that was coming. I am delighted. Yes
16:02James tell me when the movie's out movie is coming out on
16:08April the 10th
16:10Nationwide and all across Ireland as well. So yeah, please get yourselves along. We're really proud of it
16:15We definitely
16:22Well
16:23Rita we're gonna talk about your album, but first just because we to produce Mamma Mia. I don't know about
16:30you
16:31Tell me it's number three coming how a share of people sown dungarees
16:38Well
16:39All right, let me just say this that
16:42Don't tell us the truth there. No, there will always be discussions about a third Mamma Mia because who wouldn't
16:49want a third Mamma Mia
16:50That is the truth, right
16:56It's a movie that has given people pure joy and happiness. I I mean, it's it's just wonderful
17:03So yes, there are always discussions, but there's nothing definitively to announce. Okay. Thank you so much
17:12And here's the thing the Greek government loved you for doing it so much. They put your face on a
17:17stamp. That is true
17:18I think
17:29It's quite bridal. It's really isn't it? It's very bridal. It's divine
17:34But you know what's interesting is I can't get out of my head though
17:39This image of people licking the back of my head
17:45It's just so strange you need it to actually happen so that you can access
17:48Yeah, could you?
17:50Yeah, let's go
17:50Thank you
17:53Thank you
17:53Wow, that feels good
17:55That feels good
17:56Elmett
17:57Elmett
17:57Do you think do you think the Queen and Philip ever did that?
18:02Yeah
18:03Yeah
18:04So Rita you're about to release your sixth studio album. I have it here
18:08It is
18:08Sound of a Woman
18:14You said it's your most
18:18Revealing album yet, I believe
18:19What do you mean by that?
18:20It is. It's about different phases of a woman's life
18:23You know, it's as we come into the world as young girls were labeled
18:28Where you know, oh, what a sweet young girl, what a sassy teen
18:32Oh, now you're a good worker, a good student
18:35Or you're a girlfriend or a wife or a mother or something
18:39And all of those things are parts of who we are
18:42But they're not exactly everything that we are
18:44Look, it's like you're shedding all those images
18:47Don't you feel like at a certain point in your life
18:49Like I'm at the age right now where I just don't care what anybody thinks
18:52Yeah
18:53I don't care what anybody says
18:54I've earned that, right?
18:55Yeah
18:56Everybody should earn it at any point in your life
18:59Really
19:00It shouldn't just be
19:02Well, you know, I've gotten to this age
19:05And I don't believe that there is a clock on creativity
19:08Like at what point does somebody say, oh, I'm so sorry
19:12Yeah, you were supposed to do that at 29 and three quarters years old
19:16And that time has passed
19:17Yeah
19:18Who's to say it?
19:19We're only limited really by our own perceptions or beliefs about what we tell ourselves
19:24Yeah, absolutely
19:30The album is called The Sound of a Woman
19:33Right
19:34What is the sound of a woman?
19:36That's my question
19:37Is it hip-hop?
19:39I'm going to ask you that question
19:40Is it what?
19:40Is it hip-hop?
19:41It's definitely hip-hop
19:43The sound of a woman I think is just
19:45Shhh
19:46Exactly
19:46I say that quite a lot
19:47My husband has an idea
19:49My husband has an idea
19:50Exactly
19:52He does
19:52He does
19:53That's another one
19:53He does
19:54Hey Claude, I've got a
19:55A bum
19:56A bum
19:56A bum
19:57A bum
19:57A bum
19:58A bum
19:58A bum
19:58Yeah, go make the bed
19:59Do his homework
20:01No more words
20:02One of my favourite noises a woman's ever made
20:05I was in
20:06Wow, wait a minute
20:07Wow
20:08Wow
20:08I saw a lady see Johnny Depp in the street, this is probably about 20 years ago and the noise
20:16I'll never do it justice but she saw it and went ehhh
20:18And it was so just... and you could sort of see it happening as he's walking down various
20:25He was just sort of gliding down the street causing various noises
20:30Um, I could do something but it's filthy
20:32Do it, just do it right now before
20:34No, no, no
20:35Yes
20:37Audio
20:51I was just making conversation
20:53I can't do that
20:55You're doing it
20:56I'll tell you what I can do
20:56I can do an extraordinary
20:58it's audio only
21:00Horse impression
21:02Do you want to go around the back so that we can only hear you?
21:07And I have used it in foreplay
21:16Just imagine wedding night 28 years guys
21:21Ready are you coming to bed? Hmm. Yes. I get pretend hooves on I don't
21:33Oh
21:41That is the sound of a woman
21:50Peter let us have a look at your video. Oh good. This is jury of one out today
22:01I don't know but I know that I'm confused
22:07Pleading for forgiveness but there really is no use
22:13After everything I've done
22:17There's a jury of just one
22:21And it's me
22:25Sorry
22:28Thank you. Thank you. And it's out today. That song is called jury of one because it's about feeling guilty
22:36You're always guilty like if you're working you feel guilty that you're not at home and with the kids or
22:41with your family
22:42And then if you're with your kids in the family at home, you're thinking creatively like oh gosh
22:48I feel bad that I'm not working there
22:49And I think that guilt has a twin sister called apology
22:53Yeah, and apology is like women we say I'm sorry all the time for all sorts of things like somebody
22:58could kick me in the knee
23:00And I'd be like I'm so sorry my knee was in the way
23:01Yeah, okay. I'm a fan of both guilt and apologizing
23:04Exactly. I am I quite I'm I'd never mean it. No
23:09You know what I mean? That's when they're getting it wrong. I'm so sorry
23:17Just filling in some space
23:20Um, I'm joking unless I did you wrong which I'm very sorry
23:24No, I am
23:26I am
23:26Um, one of the songs is called marriage you have been married for 38 years
23:31We have a couple here who are getting married. Hello. Hello. There they are. Oh
23:40I believe are you getting married in like a week? Yes. Yes. How are you gonna celebrate?
23:46We're getting married in Nottingham. Yeah lovely and Paul in Nottingham and our reception is a water park
23:51That's a great location. Yeah, yeah water parks guys you are
23:55I'm imagining her in a male and I'm sorry
23:57I can't do this. Listen
23:59Have you have you put down the deposit?
24:04Deposits are paid, everything's paid
24:07But have you ever been to Aqualand in Benador?
24:10No
24:11Like you don't even have to go on the rides to have fun. One of the best things is when
24:16you watch a big northern man
24:20Go down a flume
24:22It's just
24:24Because
24:26Sometimes the trunks arrive before the man
24:29It's that kind of girl
24:31But they look like haunted babies
24:33They just hear them
24:35It's too fast Linda, it's too fast
24:37Like everything
24:38It's
24:38If your marriage
24:40Has as many highs as that water park has given me
24:44Oh yeah
24:44And I'm sure you can have a blessed, blessed life
24:47Are you wearing a bikini and a veil?
24:49Like what's your other?
24:50No, it's TBC whether I'll actually go down there
24:53Oh really? Okay
24:55Oh you've got to go down
24:56Yeah, I think
24:57Hold it high
24:58Well, you know
24:58Oh yeah
24:59You know, I meant
25:00I wasn't
25:02I meant
25:03I didn't know that
25:07I didn't know that
25:07I didn't know that
25:08I didn't know that
25:08I didn't know that
25:17The answer is
25:17Don't get divorced
25:19Thank you
25:20Very long
25:21Marriage
25:22Yeah
25:22Stay married
25:23Yeah
25:24Thank you very much
25:25And also
25:26Don't watch box sets apart
25:28Oh yeah
25:29I think that's very good
25:30No binge cheating
25:31Yeah
25:32That's a better way of putting it
25:33No binge cheating
25:35Rita
25:35When is this out?
25:37Please tell us
25:37The album is out May 1st
25:39The two singles
25:39Michelangelo
25:40And
25:41Sound of a Woman are out
25:43And Jury of One today
25:44Oh lovely
25:45Thank you
25:47And
25:48And Claudia
25:49I should mention this
25:51Because I forget
25:52But I'm going to be touring
25:53In the UK
25:54And
25:54Europe
25:55In November
25:56This is perfect
25:57Yes, it's really good
25:59It's really good
26:00Thank you
26:02Um
26:04Rita
26:04Yes
26:05A slight bone to pick with you
26:07Alright
26:07You enjoy camping
26:08Yeah
26:09I love camping
26:10So do you mean camping
26:11As in
26:12We're coming
26:13Pitch up the tent
26:14And bring me a pet giraffe
26:15Or are you
26:16I don't know
26:18I've never come
26:18No
26:19Or you're like
26:20Driving
26:21And you're making a stove
26:22Yes
26:23We have one of those
26:24Vans
26:25That is
26:26You know
26:27Kitted out
26:27With a bed
26:28And a kitchen
26:29And everything
26:29And there's nothing better
26:30Than cooking in the outdoors
26:32It is so fantastic
26:33Like
26:34I don't know
26:35There's something about being
26:36Under the stars
26:37And there's a lovely little
26:40Lovely
26:40Toilet
26:41In there
26:41So it's very civilised
26:42It's very civilised
26:43Is it one of those
26:44You have that blue liquid
26:45And you have to
26:46No
26:47They're very high tech now
26:49Oh are they?
26:50Very, very high tech
26:51It's always
26:51You know what I mean
26:52It's that weird
26:52Exactly
26:54It's great
26:54And then you're like
26:55Terrible
26:57You're not working away
26:58You're shame
26:59No
27:00It's beautiful
27:01And it's really, really great
27:03Yeah
27:04But it is that
27:05Sometimes you're like
27:06And that blue
27:07Your friend's coming in
27:08And they're like
27:09She's making the horse noises
27:11I can't kill the moon
27:16I haven't camped for a while
27:18But I remember
27:19I was about 23
27:20I was down in New Zealand
27:21It was amazing
27:21And I barely saw another living soul
27:23The whole time I did it
27:24That was just backpacking?
27:25Backpacking and campings
27:26Wow, that's charming
27:26And I'm in the middle of the Coromando
27:29Subtropical rainforest
27:30And it's night time
27:31And there's possums
27:32Right?
27:32And the possums rustle around
27:34And do all that kind of stuff
27:35I just got so scared this one night
27:37That I got my gas lamp on
27:40And I turned my gas lamp on
27:41To cast shadows on my tent
27:43And I got my little, like, Swiss army knife
27:45And I got every little attachment out
27:46And I was like
27:47I can't get more of that
27:49You see me?
27:50You see me?
27:51I've got...
27:51I'm carrying
27:53Tune up your bus
27:56So...
27:56With tweezers
27:57Yeah, I know
27:58There's a torch and a pen
28:01Gugu, do you camp?
28:03You know, I didn't really grow up camping
28:04Only child problems
28:07But...
28:08But no, I'm a bit of a beginner
28:09I did camp for the first time
28:12A couple of years ago
28:13On a trip
28:14Climbing up Mount Kilimanjaro
28:16Oh, wow
28:17Wow
28:18That was kind of...
28:19You went from 0 to 90
28:20I know
28:21I know
28:21And I was...
28:22Yeah, I kind of
28:23You know, obviously it's like
28:24Six, seven days
28:26And altitude
28:27And all of that
28:28And, you know, being a beginner
28:29I was like
28:29What about, you know, being comfortable
28:31And, you know
28:32I was really...
28:32I'd maybe glamped
28:34You know, or something
28:35Yes, right
28:35So, I brought like
28:36I bought one little luxury
28:38Which was like
28:39My little goose pillow
28:40Oh, that's smart
28:41And I took that up
28:42But, erm, everybody
28:43Everybody laughed at me
28:44Er, you don't camp?
28:46I can see that face
28:47Well...
28:47Just because...
28:48We used to go camping loads
28:49Because we didn't have any money
28:50When we were younger
28:51So, the first time you get into a hotel
28:53It's just incredible
28:54Oh, yeah
28:55Yeah
28:55Like, have you been wiping your ass with a leaf?
28:58And then...
28:58Probably this toilet roll
29:00And, like, little pots of jam that you can steal
29:03Yeah!
29:04Come on
29:05I'm good
29:05Exactly
29:06Don't get this in the woods
29:08Gugu, we have something in common
29:10You have a trampoline
29:12I bought a trampoline
29:13Oh, yeah
29:13Yeah
29:14Who told you to get a trampoline?
29:15You know, my friend Sarah
29:17At the beginning of lockdown
29:18Erm
29:19Took me to this trampoline class in LA
29:22And I was like
29:23This is amazing!
29:25Like, it's so kind of ridiculous
29:27But actually really difficult
29:29But kind of fun too
29:30And really fun
29:30And I think, you know
29:31And so as soon as, like, Covid hit
29:33I ordered a trampoline
29:34Because I felt like
29:35You know, you do like
29:36Three or four bounces on a trampoline
29:38And you feel like six years old
29:39I bought a little trampoline
29:41But with a handle
29:42Because I'm 54
29:43Yes
29:44Yes
29:44Yes
29:45Start with the handle
29:46Yeah
29:48You hold the handle
29:49I haven't taken out of it
29:50You look like you're riding your own horse
29:51Yeah, yeah
29:52Yeah, yeah
29:54Birthdays and Christmas, babe
29:57Too much
29:58I have a heart
29:59No biggie
30:00Erm
30:01It's the most fun
30:02It's the most fun
30:03Yeah
30:03Do you know, we have the Olympic gold medalist
30:07The best at trampolining in the world
30:08Bryony, you're here
30:09What?
30:11Yay!
30:16Thank you for being with us
30:18Um
30:19Gugu loves trampolining
30:21And it is
30:22It's been proven to be like
30:23The best
30:24The best exercise
30:25Yeah, so trampolining is so much fun
30:27Like you've already said
30:28Can make you feel like a superhuman
30:29Yeah
30:30So if you're jumping on the floor
30:31Really limited
30:32You can only jump so high
30:33But as soon as you get on that trampoline
30:35And you're working really hard
30:36Training hard
30:37You can go up to 10 metres in the air
30:39You're flying in the air for like two seconds long
30:41And you're super thrilling
30:43You get to flip around and somersault
30:45And it feels like you're riding a roller coaster
30:47I half remember
30:48Because I remember nothing in my life
30:50I half remember somebody telling me that bouncing
30:52Has a particular sort of physiological benefit
30:55Is that right?
30:56Or did I make that up one time?
30:57No, definitely
30:57So I think it was NASA that said
31:00If you do 30 minutes on a trampoline
31:02Sorry, 10 minutes on a trampoline
31:04Is like 30 minutes running
31:05Yeah, but also very good for court
31:07It just makes us all happy
31:08Let's all get trampoline
31:09Yeah
31:11Yeah
31:12It's really fun
31:13Yeah
31:15Now, Gugu
31:15We're going to talk about the film
31:17Called Fuse
31:18Tell us what it's about
31:19It's a heist action thriller set in London
31:24And yeah, I play a police officer in it
31:27There's a discovery of an unexploded World War II bomb in London
31:32And it's kind of a race against time to evacuate the city
31:35But also there's kind of a twist
31:38In it as well
31:40In that there's a
31:41Well, I don't want to give it away
31:43But it's a very kind of gripping heist thriller
31:46And it's with Aaron Taylor Johnson
31:48Theo James
31:49Myself
31:50Sam Worthington
31:51And Saffron Hawkins
31:52What a good cast
31:53Let us have a clip, please
31:55We detected a heat signature inside the cordon
31:57We need to investigate
31:59We think people could still be there
32:02Right, the police have detected an unidentified heat source
32:11It's a very dangerous procedure
32:18I've never finished the mitigation wall
32:20Which means if the bomb detonates
32:22I don't even have to tell you how bad that's gonna be
32:25I understand major, but we can't risk injury to the public. We'll be as quick as we can.
32:37You shadowed police officers, didn't you, and learned a lot about the work they do?
32:41Yeah, I mean my character is chief superintendent and she is where her role is what's running gold in the
32:47command control center
32:48so I got to visit some command control centers in London and in Essex and talk to some high-ranking
32:54female police officers
32:56of which there are still very few so it was really interesting sort of being in those control centers
33:02seeing those cameras of London, you know, at the switch of a button you can see pretty much any street
33:08or view in London
33:10which is kind of comforting and kind of chilling.
33:13But no, it was really, really interesting to kind of learn about that work as I say
33:17because to be able to have that, you know, perspective from real police officers was really, really helpful.
33:23So, when can we watch Fuse?
33:24Oh, it's out today!
33:26Perfect!
33:27Excellent!
33:31James, I love the fact we were chatting earlier and you said your favourite thing is when you're acting
33:36is watching the person who is acting right in front of you, like sometimes you're...
33:39And I love when actually, when you're so in awe.
33:42Oh man, sometimes, like sometimes really good acting just makes it all seem seamless and all that kind of stuff.
33:47But sometimes you're working with somebody who just does something so good, you're like...
33:51Oh my God.
33:52And then you drop your line and you mess up the whole scene and you mess them up.
33:56Right.
33:56But I quite often find myself with really good actors just like mouthing along with me.
34:00LAUGHTER
34:01And they'll be like, what are you doing?
34:03I'm like, I'm sorry, what? I'm just in the scene with you.
34:05You're like, you're mouthing my lines.
34:07I'm like, no, no, no, no, I'm just like preparing my line.
34:10LAUGHTER
34:11But yeah, I've messed a couple of actors up by doing that.
34:14Oh.
34:14Yeah, but how amazing to be, because you're nodding, you must...
34:17Oh, no, yeah, I remember I did a movie called It's Complicated with Meryl Streep, and you're
34:22looking at this person, you're like, it's Meryl Streep.
34:27LAUGHTER
34:28I can't believe it's Sophie from Sophie's Choice.
34:31And then you just have to kind of become a professional and do your thing, but that first few moments
34:37is definitely distracting.
34:39I was like that with your husband.
34:40Oh, really?
34:41Not that we acted together, but, like, I would go in and say, yeah, no, he wouldn't let me.
34:46LAUGHTER
34:47We should say who your husband is, just tell the group.
34:52Yeah, you're married too.
34:54Just so you know.
34:55Yes, tell me.
34:57I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but you have all this and be married to Tom Hanks.
35:01Yes, I am.
35:03And I, yep, he does deserve that.
35:05APPLAUSE
35:07I don't know why I do this thing sometimes when I get around famous people,
35:11when they kind of go like, hey, what's up, what are you going to get for lunch?
35:13And they've just been totally normal, and I'm like, I feel so uncomfortable,
35:18and I go into this weird sort of over, like, almost put on working class thing
35:23when I'm like, all right, man, I know I'm going to get some chips or something.
35:26LAUGHTER
35:27I'm going to get, like, I drive a Punto.
35:30LAUGHTER
35:30You know what I mean?
35:31Why would you drive a Ferrari, eh?
35:33I'm going to get some bread with butter.
35:36LAUGHTER
35:36I'm going to get some caviar.
35:38And I don't know why that happens.
35:40Yeah, of course, I don't like it.
35:41It's a bit like, you know, when you really fancy somebody.
35:45Yeah.
35:45But early on, you know, with the first person,
35:47I fancy somebody so badly when I was 17, he would speak to me,
35:49and I would just be sick.
35:52Like that character in South Park.
35:54Was that everything right?
35:55Bleh!
35:57Again, the sound of a woman.
35:58The sound of a woman!
35:59LAUGHTER
36:01I went to see Rufus Wainwright, the singer,
36:03who I'm a big fan of, and he invited me to go out for dinner with him.
36:07So we went for dinner, it was really exciting.
36:08Wow.
36:08You know when you meet your hero and then you're up in tea?
36:11Yeah.
36:11I had some spare jam.
36:13LAUGHTER
36:15Apricot?
36:15Yeah, but he had some toilet paper.
36:17Yeah, yeah.
36:19But we were sort of hanging out and then he said,
36:21oh, do you want to go and hang out with my friend Carrie?
36:23So I said, oh, yeah, sure.
36:24So then we'd come and meet Carrie and it was Carrie Fisher.
36:27Oh!
36:28So I'm suddenly in this insane...
36:30I'm round Carrie Fisher's house and her dog was eating ice cream
36:33and she was about...
36:35With the spoon?
36:35Not with the spoon!
36:37LAUGHTER
36:37I didn't do that, I didn't do that.
36:39Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:40But yeah, he wasn't doing that.
36:42I naturally did the vibe.
36:44So anyway, so we were sort of just drinking and Carrie wasn't,
36:47but me and Rufus were blah, blah, blah.
36:49And then they found out that I was a stand-up comedian
36:52and they were both like, do some...
36:54Oh, what?
36:55Yeah, and I was like, well, no, you can't...
36:57Is that really...
36:58It doesn't work, like, I just...
36:59And I'm trying to explain that she's like,
37:01just go into the bathroom, come out, do five minutes.
37:04I'm like, how are we here?
37:06Are you going to come out in laundry?
37:08Yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:09Wow.
37:09But so I kind of desperately thought, right,
37:12this idea I had of, like, human beings blame animals
37:15for our weird behaviour.
37:17Like, I've never seen a rat snitch,
37:19I've never seen a badger badger,
37:20I've never seen an elephant in a room go, I know.
37:24Um...
37:24Catfish is my favourite.
37:26You know, catfish, someone goes online,
37:28pretends to be someone else, they don't do that.
37:30They're not in the sea going, show us your tits, I'm a dolphin.
37:34That's...
37:34That's, uh...
37:35Yeah, yeah, yeah, funny.
37:36That's great.
37:36Right?
37:37Butter silent.
37:39LAUGHTER
37:40And Carrie Fisher, a.k.a. Princess Leia,
37:42goes, people paying money for this?
37:45LAUGHTER
37:45I was kind of like, well, you know,
37:48occasionally and like that.
37:49I was just...
37:50I love that you become the Evans.
37:52Oh, yeah.
37:53That was mortifying.
37:55But it was, for whatever reason, stand-up is,
37:57as soon as you're told to do it, it's...
37:59Yeah.
37:59It's gone.
38:00You have started taking your family on tour with you.
38:03I have, yes.
38:03Haven't you?
38:03Because you're doing this massive tour.
38:05Yes.
38:05You're going with your wife and your 19-month-old.
38:07Yes.
38:08I've been doing stand-up for 28 years.
38:11But sort of travelling with those two just makes it really fun again,
38:14because then you get to kind of...
38:16Like, we're going to Manchester this weekend
38:18and there's a transport museum, there's a...
38:20Yeah.
38:21There's a Legoland and he's really into diggers.
38:24Like, he loves diggers.
38:25Oh, they love diggers.
38:27So...
38:27So we're...
38:29So...
38:30I've got, like, six gigs and yet the highlight
38:33is the transport museum, because I know it's going to blow his mind.
38:36Oh, completely.
38:37I don't know, it's that...
38:37But it's that funny thing of, like, nothing prepares you for
38:40how excited your kids get about baffling stuff.
38:44Yeah.
38:44So, too.
38:45We've got, like, a little stick.
38:46If I push the stick around, like, my son's like,
38:49Daddy Hoover!
38:50Daddy Hoover!
38:53And that makes me happy because he's happy.
38:55So, I know I'm now, like, this just...
38:57I'm so eager.
38:58But it's got to that stage where I'm like,
38:59Daddy Hoover?
39:01Daddy...
39:02And he's like,
39:03Oh, that was so yesterday.
39:05I was about to say, because you're about...
39:06You know, you're about to go on stage...
39:09...and make thousands of people laugh.
39:10Yeah.
39:10Anyone who knows a 19-month-old.
39:12Yes.
39:12Try and make them smile.
39:14Sometimes it happens, but you...
39:15I mean, you have to work hard...
39:17Yeah.
39:17...to make them laugh.
39:19Right?
39:19When they're six months, you do a fake sneeze, they giggle.
39:21Yes.
39:21You're like, come on!
39:23And they get to about two and you're like,
39:24do you find this funny?
39:26LAUGHTER
39:28Yeah.
39:28Yeah, that's not actually what a sheep sounds like.
39:31LAUGHTER
39:32A horse on the other hand.
39:33Yeah.
39:34A horse, I hold my beard.
39:37LAUGHTER
39:40It's called the Algorithm.
39:41Yes.
39:41I love that title.
39:42Will you change your material as you go?
39:45Oh, yes.
39:45Particularly if you're travelling in Europe,
39:46and you've...
39:47I remember being in Norway,
39:48they've got a phrase called Vente Pulsar,
39:50which is...
39:51It translates as a waiting sausage.
39:53So, if you keep a Norwegian waiting,
39:56they will eat a hot dog.
39:58And I just think it's such a funny excuse for gluttony.
40:02Just...
40:02Like, you know,
40:03if you force me to linger,
40:04I eat a pork finger.
40:06LAUGHTER
40:07And it's this...
40:09That...
40:09In that moment...
40:14But it's...
40:15It's that thing...
40:16That...
40:16That wouldn't be funny if you were doing it in Halifax,
40:19but that night, if you've...
40:21Oh, I didn't know.
40:21No, no, no, but...
40:22It's funny.
40:23But if you're able to kind of really be in a place,
40:26and the audience can tell, you're like,
40:28oh, my God, this is happening now.
40:30This...
40:30Yes.
40:31It really does something.
40:32It's kind of...
40:33And if you can blend it with material,
40:35and actually be there and improvise,
40:37it's...
40:38You can...
40:38You get into that kind of flow state,
40:40and it's the best.
40:40I love it so much.
40:42I really...
40:42I think I'm a lifer.
40:43I haven't found anything through which I can do life more
40:46than stand-up.
40:47Is it true that Billy Connolly made you want to be a stand-up?
40:51Yeah, I think so.
40:52So I just remember watching my dad howl,
40:54and he was like...
40:55I think Billy Connolly was like,
40:56for a certain generation,
40:57like this fire in the corner of the country,
41:00where we'd kind of warm ourselves around,
41:02and you'd see your dad laughing,
41:03your mum was laughing,
41:04your uncle, whatever.
41:05Yeah.
41:05And I was so intrigued by this kind of, like,
41:09this guy.
41:09I was like, imagine trying to be that.
41:11And then I got to interview him,
41:12which was like talking to God.
41:14And then kind of making him laugh.
41:17Wild.
41:18And he's such a sweet, just, you know,
41:21beautiful man.
41:22Oh, yeah.
41:23I could talk about him for hours.
41:24I'd love him.
41:25But I imagine everyone in Scotland feels the same.
41:26Absolutely.
41:27You know, when you've got a nickname,
41:28call him the Beguin.
41:30The Beguin.
41:31The Beguin.
41:31The Beguin.
41:33Yeah, the Beguin.
41:34That's a good e-mail address.
41:36Yes.
41:37It is.
41:38It promises a lot though, Rita.
41:42Just say, everything's about expectations.
41:46Especially if he's at Hotmail.
41:48Anyway.
41:51She's digging out of Hotmail.
41:52It's wild.
41:56Russell, how can people see the top?
41:57They can see it.
41:58It's all over the country.
42:00All over England and Ireland and Scotland.
42:04Until November.
42:06Thank you very much.
42:07Pleasure.
42:11We've nearly come to the end of the show.
42:13Have we covered everything?
42:16Is there anybody here, we are not qualified,
42:19who would like some guidance on anything?
42:21I really like hands going up.
42:23It's so good.
42:24Wait, I need to get you a microphone.
42:26I was a bit keen, sorry.
42:28I was just wondering what advice you have.
42:31If you're having a conversation with someone
42:33and then they start going on their phone while you're talking to them,
42:36what do you do?
42:37Ooh.
42:38I think most people stay married to them for quite a long time.
42:41LAUGHTER
42:44But...
42:47That sounds like I'm slagging my wife off.
42:49No, it doesn't.
42:50I'm not.
42:50It's me.
42:51Or you just call them.
42:54LAUGHTER
42:57And then, suddenly, you're there.
43:00That kind of works.
43:02Erm, thank you so much.
43:05That's it for this week.
43:06I would like to thank my guests,
43:07Russell Howard,
43:09Rita Wilton,
43:11Gugu and Butteraw,
43:13and James McAvoy.
43:16Join me next week,
43:17where my guests will be Michelle De Swat,
43:19Olivia Cooke,
43:20Arna Faris,
43:21and Ray Fiennes.
43:23Good night.
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