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01:00Also with us tonight,
01:01with the brilliant Hugh Bonneville
01:02and Hugh Skinner
01:03who are reuniting
01:04to play Ian Fletcher
01:05and Will Humphreys.
01:06A comedy duo
01:07we first met
01:08in a smash hit sitcom
01:10W1A,
01:11all about a team of managers
01:12working at the BBC.
01:14Now they're teaming up
01:15for the sequel
01:16but this time
01:17they're helping to manage
01:18an international football tournament
01:20from Miami
01:21in the new BBC sitcom
01:232026.
01:24What could it be based on
01:25and what could possibly go wrong?
01:27We will find out.
01:28Also tonight,
01:29Ahead of the bank holiday weekend, when many are set to indulge in Easter eggs,
01:33Chris Bavin has been given exclusive access to a chocolate factory in North Yorkshire
01:37to find out why chocolate prices are at a record high and how manufacturers are adapting.
01:42Hoping we're getting umper-loomper or two.
01:44Fingers crossed.
01:46And we love hearing from you, of course.
01:47Perhaps you enjoyed watching the Hughes in W1A and want to let us know,
01:51or maybe you've got a question for Papa or Siobhan.
01:53Get in touch on WhatsApp.
01:55That's 033-0123-1700 on socials or on email.
02:00But first tonight, millions of people in England will notice a change from tomorrow
02:04as new recycling rules come into force and alter what many of us do on bin day.
02:09Yes, the new systems designed to make sure bin collections are the same for everyone,
02:14regardless of where you live.
02:15Mina Shannon has been to find out more.
02:19Walk around different towns in England and you'll see a different set of bins
02:24and completely different rules about what goes in them.
02:27But that's all about to change.
02:31From April, the way bins are collected across England will be updated
02:36to make recycling simpler and more effective.
02:41And it's the biggest change to household recycling in 20 years.
02:46Every household will get a food waste bin, fewer collections for general waste and clearer rules.
02:53The idea being one simple system, more recycling and less landfill.
02:58But not everyone's happy about it.
03:02In the UK, Wales leads the way with a 68.4% recycling rate
03:08and weekly food waste collections in most areas.
03:11In Scotland and Northern Ireland, the figures are lower
03:14and collections vary from council to council.
03:18In England, it's hoped the new system will boost its current 44.6% rate.
03:24Where I live in Merseyside, with my mother-in-law, Ange,
03:28the rules will come into effect this summer.
03:30What have I told you about rinsing the stuff before you put it in the recycle bin?
03:34We already have one bin for recycling paper, card, tins, glass and plastic,
03:40but some of us are better at it than others.
03:43So I feel like in this household, you're definitely the recycler.
03:48Yes.
03:48Out of ten, what would you mark me and Liam?
03:50Probably about two.
03:53The amount of times I have to take your stuff out of the bins
03:57and put it in the recycle bin.
03:59Coke bottles, cardboard from toilet rolls, shampoo bottles.
04:05Just literally getting exposed by my mother-in-law.
04:08One council that's ready to go is Warrington.
04:11Residents already have alternating collections.
04:14Mixed recycle in one week, general waste the next.
04:18And from tomorrow, they'll get a food waste collection for the first time,
04:22which means their general waste bin shouldn't fill up as quickly.
04:26Dad, I got this so then you can put it in the recycling bin.
04:30OK, cheers, babe.
04:31Dad Paul has a wheelie bin and patio cleaning business,
04:34so he knows a thing or two about rubbish.
04:37I think the new recycling used to reinforce him are a good idea.
04:40We like to recycle and do as best we can with it.
04:43A common complaint about food caddies is the smell.
04:47So this is a smaller one for inside the house.
04:49It's not ideal.
04:50Obviously, you're going to get a smell still coming out of there.
04:53Which means they need to be emptied frequently.
04:56To get Paul and I up to speed on the difference all this can make,
05:00we've been invited to see the recycling process up close.
05:04Weekly food waste will go to specialist plants
05:07where it's turned into renewable energy and fertiliser.
05:11Everything else comes to places like this,
05:14a dry recycling centre in Liverpool.
05:17One of the biggest problems that we have here
05:19is that we do unfortunately still get some food waste
05:22in with our recycling.
05:24That means the food messes up a lot of the paper and cards that comes in.
05:27That means that we can't really do much with it.
05:31Batteries and vapes are one of the biggest fire risks
05:34in recycling centres, causing, on average, one fire a day.
05:38What you should be doing is taking them back to your supermarkets.
05:41They will have a little box when you walk in
05:43where you can put your loose batteries into there.
05:46If you buy vapes from there as well.
05:49And people putting these in their recycling bins.
05:52Unbelievable.
05:52Stop them.
05:54Even with cutting-edge kits, including AI robots,
05:59skilled workers still need to separate materials.
06:02So what's coming over this line now are the plastic bottles.
06:07As you can see, we're separating out the final things
06:09that have slipped through the net.
06:10Like plastic bags.
06:12Plastic bags.
06:13You can see newspapers.
06:14I'm surprised at how much stuff that I'm seeing
06:18that shouldn't be here.
06:21Can you just explain what happens
06:22once that batch has actually been contaminated?
06:25Anything that comes through like that
06:27would go to an energy from waste facility.
06:30I have to say, this has been the biggest eye-opener
06:33for me personally.
06:34I think the big thing for me was the vapes.
06:36I didn't know vapes couldn't go in.
06:37Yeah.
06:38Now I know what to do and what not to do at home.
06:42Change can be inconvenient,
06:44but when it comes to waste,
06:45small actions at home
06:47certainly can make a difference.
06:52Thank you, Mina.
06:54She's always so well turned out,
06:55even at a recycling centre.
06:57She is.
06:57It just looks on point.
06:58Let's hope these changes make recycling
07:00a bit easier for households across England.
07:02Right.
07:03It's time now to welcome tonight's first guest.
07:05It's the stars of BBC's latest drama,
07:07Babies, Papa Esielu and Siobhan Cullen.
07:10Welcome.
07:11Thank you.
07:13Welcome both of you.
07:14And Papa, I've got to start with you
07:16because I've got to say congratulations
07:17on your Olivier Award nomination.
07:20Thank you so much.
07:20So that's for All My Sons,
07:22which you starred in the play
07:23alongside Bryan Cranston.
07:25Ceremonies next week.
07:26How are you feeling about it?
07:28I'm mainly looking forward to seeing
07:30what Bryan's going to wear, to be honest.
07:31But yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
07:33It was such a joyful experience
07:35and everyone was brilliant
07:36and the show was brilliant.
07:38And so it's really great to see it.
07:39And Papa was brilliant.
07:40Yeah.
07:41It's my favourite show.
07:42Yeah.
07:43Well, we can...
07:44Went five times.
07:44Well, listen, you can watch the Olivier Awards
07:47on BBC Two, 12th of April,
07:48hosted by Nick Mohamed,
07:49who will be here next week.
07:51We can see what Bryan and Papa end up wearing.
07:53And from starring on stage to the small screen,
07:56because in just a couple of hours here on BBC One,
07:58Papa's going to be joining forces with Siobhan
08:00to bring us a brand new comedy,
08:03drama rather, called Babies.
08:04Yes, it's a powerful watch
08:06about a young married couple
08:07and their heartbreaking struggle
08:08to start a family,
08:09which covers themes of miscarriage
08:11and bereavement as well.
08:12And before we hear all about it,
08:14let's take a quick look.
08:14Do I need it?
08:18Oh, you two, anyway.
08:19Yeah, really good.
08:20Do you think much about having kids?
08:22Eh, no.
08:23Yeah.
08:23You?
08:24No way.
08:26It's up to baby.
08:28One minute, please.
08:32He's got no idea what you've been through.
08:34What we've been through.
08:36What's wrong with you?
08:38This isn't going to change us.
08:42I feel like we should start trying again.
08:48Oh, Siobhan, it's so great, this.
08:51Now, it's obviously a very emotional subject,
08:53but it's also really funny.
08:55It's really joyful.
08:56It's the most beautiful story,
08:58and that's because of your characters.
09:00So, Lisa and Stephen.
09:02Tell us a little bit about them.
09:03Well, we meet them,
09:04and they're newly married,
09:07and they're just mad about each other.
09:10They're best friends,
09:11and up until this point,
09:12I think everything is gone as planned.
09:15And this is, I suppose,
09:18they decide, you know,
09:19they want to become parents,
09:20and it's the first kind of hurdle
09:22that they face.
09:24So, in a way,
09:24it feels like a little bit
09:26like a kind of a coming-of-age show,
09:27in that we watch these people
09:28who are kind of naively
09:30making their way through life,
09:32facing their first kind of,
09:33I suppose, hardship,
09:35and then we watch them
09:38and as they kind of navigate
09:40that together and separately,
09:42and, yeah,
09:43we see them kind of drift apart
09:45and then hopefully, you know,
09:46come together as well.
09:47Yeah, it's really touching.
09:49And, Papa, amongst their loss,
09:51the couple are kind of expected
09:52to just get on with it,
09:53which is something
09:54that they struggle to do, isn't it?
09:56Yeah, for sure.
09:57But, like, I mean, like,
09:58I suppose these big things
09:59happen in life,
10:01and we're expected to continue,
10:03you know, to keep going to work
10:05or to keep, you know,
10:07like, showing up for our friends
10:08or whatever,
10:09but I think what Stefan Golosevsky,
10:11the writer,
10:12has done so brilliantly
10:12is just created a world on screen
10:16which is so real and truthful
10:18and honest.
10:20He doesn't shy away from anything,
10:24which, yeah,
10:25just provided a brilliant playground
10:26for us to play in.
10:27Yeah, yeah.
10:28And you're hoping that it will spark
10:30more conversations about
10:31around pregnancy struggles,
10:33aren't you?
10:33Look, I kind of think
10:35the show is so,
10:37obviously that's one aspect of it,
10:39but it covers so many
10:40different topics.
10:41It looks at family relationships,
10:43it looks at how, like,
10:44men are together
10:45and their friendships.
10:46It covers a wide range of topics,
10:48and really what I hope
10:49is that any audience member
10:51is able to take
10:52whatever feels right
10:52for them from it.
10:54But, of course,
10:55like, anyone who feels alone
10:56or feels isolated
10:58with any of the subjects
10:59that are covered in the show,
11:01if they feel seen
11:03or represented well
11:05in this show,
11:07then I think we've done our job.
11:08Yeah, it helps them connect.
11:09So, Siobhan,
11:11we have got a few
11:11different perspectives
11:13in the show,
11:14haven't we?
11:14It's not just
11:15Lisa and Stephen.
11:16Who else is kind of
11:17in the cast
11:17and dealing with,
11:19you know,
11:19potential parenthood?
11:20Yeah, there's another couple
11:22in the show,
11:23Dave and Amanda.
11:24Dave and Stephen
11:25are, like,
11:27best mates from school,
11:29and I think
11:29Stefan does a really
11:30brilliant job
11:31of kind of portraying
11:34friendships
11:35and maybe friendships
11:36that aren't
11:38in the most healthy
11:38of places.
11:40Stefan's a genius
11:40in looking at
11:42communication
11:43and how people
11:44communicate
11:45or struggle
11:46or, you know,
11:47don't communicate.
11:50And Dave's
11:51at an interesting
11:51point in his life
11:52where he's met
11:53a new girlfriend,
11:54Amanda.
11:55And the show
11:56also looks at,
11:56like, their perspective
11:57on parenthood
11:58and the journey
11:59that they've been on
12:00as well as,
12:01you know,
12:01as well as Lisa
12:02and Stephen's.
12:03So there's a real
12:04kind of broad range
12:05kind of covered
12:07in the show.
12:08And Siobhan,
12:08to help you prepare
12:09for the role,
12:10you spoke to some
12:11of your own friends
12:11about their personal
12:12experiences,
12:13didn't you?
12:14Yeah,
12:14I'm not a mum
12:16myself.
12:17And a lot
12:18of my friends
12:19are.
12:21So it was great
12:22to be able to
12:24draw upon
12:25their experiences
12:26where they were
12:26comfortable enough
12:27to share.
12:29We have a happy
12:31ending in our show.
12:32I don't think
12:32that's a spoiler,
12:33but so I kind
12:36of reached out
12:36to my pals
12:37and I was like,
12:37look, I know
12:38you've all told me
12:39your birth stories,
12:40but if you're
12:41comfortable and
12:41if you're up for it,
12:42I'd love to hear
12:43the kind of
12:43warts and all
12:44versions.
12:44So I got loads
12:46of beautiful
12:46voice notes,
12:47some videos,
12:48some photos
12:49from friends of mine
12:50and it was just
12:51a really lovely
12:52way to kind
12:54of connect
12:55with my friends
12:55and really kind
12:56of try to get
12:57a grasp of
12:58what that is
12:58that women
12:59go through.
13:01Highly recommended
13:02for anyone to do it.
13:03It's really interesting,
13:04especially for a male
13:05as well.
13:06I'm fascinated by it
13:07because it helps you
13:07understand so much more.
13:08Yeah, and I think
13:09women often will
13:10just say,
13:10oh yeah,
13:11it's all fine,
13:11mum's doing well,
13:12baby's doing well
13:12and they don't want
13:14to take up too much
13:14space or put that
13:15burden on anybody.
13:16So it was really
13:17nice to create
13:18that space.
13:19And I hope
13:19you're good to
13:20have that research.
13:21Papa, you're doing
13:22another series,
13:23Falling, by the
13:24brilliant Jack Thorne,
13:25who was with us
13:26just a few weeks ago,
13:27writer of adolescence
13:28and he was talking
13:28about Lord of the Flies
13:29and you play a priest
13:31in that, but how do
13:32you go about
13:32researching something
13:33like that?
13:34Um, yeah, I mean
13:36I play the Catholic
13:37priest in this show
13:39and I spent a lot
13:39of time with an
13:42amazing Anglo-Catholic
13:44priest in Cardiff
13:46where we shot.
13:47And it was great
13:48for me because I
13:49kind of grew up
13:50in church and I've
13:51got this idea of
13:52priests and vicars
13:53being very kind of
13:54fusty, buttoned up,
13:55like whatever,
13:56which is not fair.
13:57And this particular
13:58man was just fabulous,
13:59wonderful, he had
14:00incredible dress sense,
14:02he wore a barb jacket
14:03wherever he went
14:04over his cassock,
14:05he carried like
14:06his tiny dog,
14:07I can't remember
14:07what, if it was a
14:08Jack Russell or a
14:09cockapoo or whatever
14:09he carried on
14:10wherever he went,
14:11he just had a great
14:12vibe, you know,
14:13and like hearing him
14:14talk about Faith
14:15and the reason why
14:17it's so important to
14:18him and it's so
14:19important for him
14:20to share it,
14:20I found fascinating
14:21from my perspective.
14:23Yeah, listen,
14:24Siobhan, we have to
14:25touch on the fact
14:25that you're also
14:26filming the Highlander
14:27reboot.
14:28I just need to know,
14:30the question is,
14:31will Queen's music
14:33be making a return?
14:34I mean, I hope so
14:36because it is so
14:38iconic, it's, the
14:40soundtrack of the
14:41original is just
14:42incredible, so yeah,
14:44I mean, fingers
14:45crossed that it pops up
14:47again in ours.
14:49Excellent.
14:51Well, Baby starts
14:52tonight at nine o'clock
14:54here on BBC One
14:55and iPlayer.
14:56And for details of
14:57organisations which
14:58offer advice and
14:59support with bereavement
15:00or pregnancy-related
15:01issues, do go online
15:02to bbc.co.uk
15:04slash action line.
15:05Now, still to come
15:06tonight, we're going to
15:07be chatting to Papa
15:07about his role in the
15:09massive new Harry Potter
15:10series.
15:11Plus, Hugh Bonneville
15:12and Hugh Skinner will be
15:13telling us about the
15:13sequel to W1A as they
15:16reunite to bring us a
15:17brand new BBC
15:18mockumentary called
15:192026.
15:20But now, this bank
15:22holiday weekend is an
15:23important time in the
15:24Christian calendar and
15:25we've got lots coming up
15:26this week to help you
15:27celebrate.
15:28Tomorrow, we'll be
15:29joining pilgrims in the
15:29North York Moors as
15:31they take on a beautiful
15:32new pilgrim trail to
15:34Markland.
15:34And something else,
15:36JB, that people might be
15:37enjoying this weekend
15:38are these Easter eggs.
15:42But the cost of these
15:43bad boys is on the rise.
15:45You can, of course,
15:45shop around for budget
15:47options, but we bought
15:48this one a year ago.
15:49It's still good.
15:51I checked the date.
15:52£2.95 a year ago.
15:53It is now on sale for an
15:55extortion at £4.50, an
15:58increase of over 50%.
16:00Wow, the cheek.
16:01And the rising price of
16:03chocolate is something
16:04Chris Bavin has been
16:05looking into as he
16:06exclusively headed to a
16:07factory in North Yorkshire
16:09to find out how
16:09chocolate makers are
16:11coping.
16:14Cocoa costs have hit
16:16record highs in the last
16:17three years, forcing some
16:19brands to shrink their
16:20products.
16:21Celebration tubs have
16:22shrunk by almost a quarter
16:23and Cadbury's dairy milk
16:25is 10% smaller, but
16:26nearly 50% more
16:28expensive.
16:29Thankfully, we are now
16:30finally starting to see
16:32prices return to their
16:34near historic level.
16:35I'm keen to find out how
16:38chocolate manufacturers have
16:39coped in this volatile
16:40market.
16:41And possibly more
16:43importantly, when us,
16:44the consumer might start to
16:46see some prices come down.
16:49Have you noticed anything
16:50about chocolate bars
16:52recently?
16:53Smaller than the cost of
16:54them.
16:55A good one for me is
16:56chocolate oranges.
16:57Yeah.
16:57It used to be like 90
16:58IMP.
17:00Now it's the best part of
17:00two and a half quid.
17:03I'm at Whittaker's in
17:04North Yorkshire, a chocolate
17:05maker spanning four
17:06generations.
17:07Today on the line is their
17:09top seller, the mint
17:10crisp.
17:11I'm with CEO William.
17:14There's been lots of
17:15challenges with coca beans
17:17recently and the prices have
17:19spiked extraordinarily high.
17:21And how has that affected
17:22you and your business?
17:23It's been a real challenge
17:25because you can never adjust
17:27your pricing fast enough to
17:30keep up.
17:30You could buy your beans in
17:31about 2023 at around about
17:34£3,000 a tonne for the
17:36chocolate.
17:36At Christmas 2024, the price
17:40was nearly £10,000 a tonne.
17:42And you're using a thousand
17:43tonnes of chocolate in a
17:45year, that's a huge impact
17:47to deal with.
17:48I've been here four to six
17:49years and the last two years
17:51have been the biggest
17:51challenge of my career.
17:53So now we are starting to
17:54see it come down.
17:55That must be a huge relief
17:56to you.
17:57We're not in a position to
17:58actually take advantage of
18:00that.
18:00We've bought all the cocoa
18:01that we need.
18:02And we don't know until next
18:04September, October what those
18:06prices will be for the
18:07following year.
18:09Dr Tonya Lander of the
18:11University of Oxford says
18:12there were a number of
18:13reasons for the prices of
18:15cocoa rising initially.
18:16Climate change, diseases of
18:18the trees, but also trade
18:21tariffs and then also
18:22interesting shifts between
18:24cocoa market and cocoa
18:25production meant that it was
18:27just a really poor year.
18:28What's happening now to
18:29reduce these prices?
18:31A big part of that is
18:32simply that the yield this
18:34year is expected to be more
18:35like a normal yield rather
18:37than the very low yields
18:38that we saw in 24 and 25.
18:39But we're still expecting
18:40some reduction in
18:41availability because cocoa
18:43producers, many of them
18:44sold their land for gold
18:45mining as a way of
18:47stabilising their own
18:48incomes.
18:49Cocoa trees thrive in
18:50tropical climates.
18:51They need consistently warm
18:53temperatures and high
18:54humidity to grow well.
18:55I'm keen to know if it
18:57could be grown closer to
18:58home.
18:59We do grow cocoa trees in
19:02the UK in glass houses, but
19:04large scale production
19:05isn't viable simply because
19:08of the sort of energy
19:09requirements of maintaining
19:10big glass houses at the
19:12temperatures and humidities
19:13that they need.
19:14Guildford-based New Cocoa
19:16have found another way to
19:17tackle the rising prices by
19:19creating a cocoa
19:21alternative using father
19:23beans that look and tastes
19:24surprisingly close to
19:26chocolate.
19:27Back in Yorkshire, one way
19:29William is adapting is by
19:31investing in this.
19:32So welcome to the nut
19:34production facility.
19:35A brand new nut factory
19:37which opened in October
19:39last year and the one show
19:41has been given exclusive
19:42access.
19:43So this is the new
19:43product, is it?
19:44The new product is the
19:45double enrobed milk
19:46chocolate Brazil nut.
19:49What was the inspiration
19:51behind doing this?
19:52The development of a whole
19:53series of new products in
19:55the future that would give
19:57us the opportunity not to
19:58just be so reliant on
20:00chocolate but this is just
20:01the start.
20:02So it's Brazil nuts this
20:03year, next year we're
20:04already looking at
20:04macadamia nuts, marzipans
20:06or dates, anything that
20:09is nut based.
20:11With a volatile cocoa
20:12market, manufacturers like
20:14this one are airing on the
20:15side of caution.
20:16A spokesperson for the
20:18British Retail Consortium
20:19told us that retailers are
20:21doing everything they can to
20:22offer value to customers
20:24despite rising costs.
20:26Changes to the product, size
20:27and pricing are largely
20:29determined by the
20:29manufacturer, reflecting the
20:31cost of production.
20:32Retailers will pass on
20:34savings wherever they can.
20:36So despite falling cocoa
20:37prices, it doesn't look like
20:39we're going to get cheaper
20:40chocolate at the checkout
20:42anytime soon.
20:46Well, thank you so much, Chris.
20:48At least it's great to see
20:49chocolate makers diversifying.
20:51Fava beans, who knew?
20:53Time now to introduce our next
20:54guest.
20:55It's Hugh Bonneville and Hugh
20:56Skinner.
20:57Welcome back.
21:01Now, Hugh Skinner, I did
21:03wonder if that film might
21:04actually touch a nerve for you
21:05because I believe that you were
21:06once sacked from a job in a
21:08chocolate shop.
21:09Yes.
21:10A long time ago, I worked in
21:11the basement of a very
21:14expensive chocolate shop
21:15packing chocolates and we
21:18had to put all the boxes
21:18together, but we could eat
21:20the chocolates as we went,
21:21so we'd be quite sort of high
21:22on sugar by about 9.30.
21:24We had to, people would call
21:25up and dictate the messages
21:27to us of what to write in the
21:28cards, but they were quite
21:29austere, the messages.
21:30You know, they'd say sort of
21:31best wishes, so-and-so, so
21:33we sort of warmed them up quite
21:34a lot and said, I love you
21:36lots and always signed them
21:37off Swork, sealed with a
21:37loving kiss.
21:38Yeah, we got fired.
21:41Poetic license, I love it.
21:43Well, Hugh might not have
21:44made it as a chocolatier, but
21:45he certainly found his
21:46calling in acting, and now
21:48he's reuniting with Hugh
21:49Bonneville as they reprise
21:50their roles from the
21:51hilarious sitcom W1A, a
21:53mockumentary about a group
21:54of managers working at the
21:56BBC.
21:56Yes, but this time, Ian
21:58Fletcher and awkward intern
21:59Will Humphreys have moved on
22:01from life at the Beeb, and
22:02they are working in Miami on
22:04a very different job.
22:05Let's have an exclusive look
22:07as things start to kick off.
22:09It's the biggest sporting
22:11event in the world.
22:12The 2026 tournament.
22:14Football is a funny game.
22:16When you say he's here.
22:17His name is here.
22:18Okay.
22:18It's never over until it's
22:19over.
22:20This is our moment, right?
22:21Essentially, we're in the
22:22toilet, and we're going to have
22:23to come out.
22:23Yeah, nice one.
22:24Will!
22:25Oh, yeah, hi, yeah.
22:26And it's one game at a time.
22:28Right, like, hashtag
22:28change the game, right?
22:29Did I miss something, or is
22:30this a lot worse than I
22:31thought?
22:32I mean, at least we know
22:33where we are now, so that's
22:33all good.
22:39Now, QB, we could hear there
22:40David Tennant narrating the
22:42series once again.
22:43So we first met Ian in 2012, and
22:46then he was organising the
22:47Olympic Games before joining
22:49the BBC.
22:50Tell us about this new gig that
22:51he's got.
22:52Well, once he'd sorted out the
22:53BBC, Ian then went on to work
22:56for the National Obesity
22:57Initiative, but that didn't really
22:58go anywhere.
22:59So now he's been parachuted
23:01into this football tournament
23:02that's taking place in Miami
23:04as Director of Integrity, and
23:08really steering what could only
23:10be described as three huge
23:11ships, Mexico, Canada, and the
23:13US, towards a destination of
23:15who knows where.
23:16Wow.
23:17Well, we're used to seeing Ian
23:18in meetings where everyone's
23:20very straight, obviously very
23:21British, but these new
23:22colleagues in Miami, they're a
23:24bit different, aren't they?
23:25Well, they are adopting certain
23:26national characteristics.
23:27Quite a punchy American lawyer
23:29who swears a lot.
23:30There's a Canadian who just
23:32wants to be nice to everyone
23:33and go back to Vancouver, and
23:35a Mexican who thinks the world
23:36revolves around Guadalajara.
23:38So they've all got vested
23:39interests and their own national
23:41instincts at stake.
23:42Now, Hugh S, so your character,
23:44Will, he was pretty clueless when
23:46he worked with Ian at the BBC,
23:47and now he's Ian's assistant.
23:50So how does that go down?
23:52Well, I think you're quite
23:54pleased, aren't you?
23:54I'm delighted, of course.
23:55Yeah, no, I think it's quite
23:57crushing for Ian when he first
23:59arrives, because, yeah, it's a
24:01sort of seemingly incredibly
24:04unproductive working relationship.
24:06But, I mean, Will's absolutely
24:07thrilled to be back in Ian's orbit.
24:09I think the first time around, it
24:10was a very sort of definitive
24:12experience for him, and Ian's a
24:13sort of spiritual leader guru to
24:16him.
24:18And I think he's been a bit lost
24:19ever since.
24:20I think he's probably been
24:21travelling, and, I mean, he says
24:22he's done some, he's probably
24:23worked with horses quite a bit,
24:24I think.
24:26Yeah.
24:27Thrilled to be back in your orbit.
24:28Yeah.
24:29But they do share quite a
24:30touching moment in this series,
24:31don't they?
24:32Oh, yeah, well, they do.
24:33Well, I think, I've described,
24:35I think the relationship was
24:36really, it's like looking after,
24:38Will Humphreys is the Paddington
24:39of the office world.
24:40You know, you know he's going to
24:42break the photocopier, but with
24:43no malice of forethought.
24:44And I think Ian just wants to
24:46look after Hugh.
24:48Sorry, Will.
24:49It's life in the dating
24:50art.
24:53And what kind of challenges, you
24:55know, is Ian facing in this new
24:57role?
24:57I mean, Director of Integrity,
24:59did you say?
25:00Yes, well, I mean, I don't know
25:01if those, you know, there was
25:03another football tournament four
25:04years ago in Qatar, and so
25:06certain opportunities arose out
25:07of that.
25:08Learning experiences arose out of
25:09the Qatar experience, and so
25:11Director of Integrity was created
25:13in this new organisation.
25:15But really, the main challenges
25:17are to make sure that Will gets
25:19the right coffee pods and opens
25:20the right biscuit gins.
25:21It really has very little to do
25:22with football, this show.
25:24You'll be relieved to hear for
25:25those who don't follow football.
25:26Well, I was going to say,
25:28speaking of football, it's not
25:29something that you had a great
25:29deal of experience in, is it?
25:31I don't think that's fair, JB.
25:32I think my experience as the
25:35reserve goalkeeper for the
25:36under-11 Bs was seminal to my
25:39life as an actor.
25:40So I bring a vast pool of, I
25:42swim in a vast pool of experience
25:44or something like that.
25:45Papa, you are also a very keen
25:47football player.
25:48Also, exactly, also.
25:50And, yeah, I mean, I am.
25:52Like, I love to watch football
25:54and play football.
25:54I probably also peaked at
25:57under-11 age.
25:59But I'm carrying on because God
26:01loves to try it, of course.
26:02Do you have a favoured position
26:04in football?
26:05In football?
26:07In football, yes.
26:08In football, yes.
26:10I call myself an all-rounder.
26:12So I'm a midfielder.
26:14OK.
26:16Now, Hugh West, the dialogue in
26:18this show is, as always, very
26:20conversational.
26:20You know, it feels real.
26:21But apparently it's very
26:23intricate and difficult to learn.
26:25It's all sort of mapped out,
26:26isn't it?
26:27Oh, it's so detailed.
26:28And, yeah, it's really hard to
26:30learn.
26:30I mean, we just sort of run it
26:31and run it and run it and stare
26:32at each other until we get it
26:34right.
26:34But I think that's...
26:35John Morton's such a brilliant
26:36writer.
26:36I think the way he sort of
26:38observes those phrases we lean
26:40on when we're in a panic, when
26:41actually we mean something else
26:43or just lots more is, I find,
26:45hugely relatable.
26:47It is.
26:48It's the hardest thing I've
26:49ever learnt and usually don't
26:50learn.
26:50And so we have to stop time and
26:52time again because I've
26:52mucked it up again.
26:53But I suppose people say,
26:56well, your vocabulary is easy
26:57because you've only got about
26:57four words.
26:58But there's a huge difference
27:00between yeah, crap and crap,
27:02yeah.
27:02And that sort of thing.
27:04Yeah.
27:04Well, we've got a lovely message
27:06on the iPad from Michelle.
27:08It says, I love W1A in 2012
27:10so much.
27:11I quote them all the time in
27:12work meetings, which really
27:13makes me giggle.
27:14Oh, yeah.
27:14Something's got to get you
27:15through, hasn't it?
27:16And Debbie says, W1A is the
27:18best comedy I've watched.
27:20The acting is a major
27:21contribution to this.
27:22Oh, thank you.
27:24Well, apologies for any
27:25foodie language you might
27:25have heard there.
27:262026 starts next Wednesday
27:28at 10 o'clock on BBC2 and
27:30all episodes of 2012 and W1A
27:32are available on iPlayer.
27:34Papa, while we've got you,
27:35we've had messages in about
27:36you as well.
27:37Erin saying, I'm so excited
27:38to see Papa step into the
27:40iconic role of Professor
27:41Snape in the upcoming
27:42Harry Potter series.
27:43I mean, the trailer
27:44released last week, things
27:45are really starting to get
27:46exciting, aren't they?
27:47Yeah, it's amazing.
27:48And we've been filming for
27:51what feels, I think, maybe
27:53like 10 months now.
27:54So we're deep into it.
27:55So it's so great to share
27:57even a little snippet of
27:58what we've been working on
28:00last week.
28:01And yeah, looking forward to
28:02more being shared in the
28:04months to come.
28:05I'm so excited to tell my kids.
28:07QB, did your son read the
28:08books growing up?
28:10Yes, I know where this is
28:11going.
28:12Yes, I swore I wouldn't watch
28:14the film until I read all the
28:15books.
28:15My son's read all the books
28:16three times, watched, you
28:18know, he's grown up now and I'm
28:19still stuck on Goblet of Fire.
28:20So I apologise.
28:21I will catch up eventually.
28:23I will.
28:23Just in time of the series.
28:25Exactly.
28:26You'll get there eventually.
28:27And Papa, what's it been like
28:28getting to know those young
28:29actors playing Ron, Harry and
28:31Hermione?
28:32I mean, they're brand new to
28:33the whole thing.
28:33Yeah, I mean, obviously I
28:34don't chat to them because I'm
28:36playing the teacher and they're
28:37insufferable.
28:38No, they're totally joyous and
28:41it's beautiful watching them at
28:43this stage, you know, because to
28:44them, this is just fun, you
28:46know, like every single day, go
28:47to school there as well.
28:48So every single day they're at
28:50school and then this is like
28:50school break, you know, when
28:51they're filming.
28:53But they're so, so, so
28:54talented and, yeah, I think
28:56people are going to fall in
28:57love with them.
28:58Oh, fantastic.
28:59Well, we can't wait.
29:00Congratulations.
29:01Unfortunately, that's all we've
29:02got time for tonight.
29:03Thank you to all of our
29:04wonderful guests.
29:05Yes, we will be back tomorrow
29:07when we'll be joined by
29:08comedian Lucy Beaumont,
29:09Traitors winner Harry Clark
29:11and singer-songwriter
29:12Holly Humberton.
29:14Have a lovely evening, everyone.
29:15Good night.
29:16Thank you.
29:24Thank you.
29:25Gracias.
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