00:00I do have to get some of your thoughts on the hot button Southern Charm issue since this season just
00:04wrapped. We saw in the reunion, Craig was kind of questioning whether he wanted to come back to the
00:09show. God, this f***ing show, man. You know, maybe this isn't right for me. Maybe I just shouldn't be
00:16here. Do you actually think there's a chance Craig won't come back next season? No, I think he wants
00:22to do it. I think he's good at it. I think he and I have been doing this a long
00:27time and we've
00:28developed a muscle for it. And look, I've been there. I've been it. I have totally been in that
00:37mindset of like, I need, I just need a break or what have you. It's actually an opportunity is how
00:43I see it. Just come back and, and, you know, wet, wipe the slate clean and let's go. I mean,
00:52I think
00:52it's, I think the show can be very cathartic in that, in that manner. And, and it also, you can,
00:58you know, shoot yourself in the foot, which happens quite often, but it happens to all of us. And,
01:04and they're pretty fair about showing that. And so I would encourage him as a friend and I hope I,
01:11hopefully I don't have to, but I think he should. If he weren't to come back, then that would leave
01:15you as like the lone OG, like, how would you handle that? Oh my God. I don't know. I mean,
01:22hold on though. I mean, Patricia has been there since the beginning. We've literally seen me, uh,
01:28grow up to a certain extent on television. So, uh, one day I'll look back and, and, and, uh,
01:35and watch it all, but I'm not ready to do that quite yet, but, uh, no, I'm, I'm, I'm pleased
01:40to
01:40still be here. I mean, it's a testament to, uh, the show and to my, uh, all the people that
01:46have
01:46come in over the years and helped us out and, and been entertaining and, and continue to be so.
01:53Austin caught a lot of flack for calling Sally a bar rat, bringing up her body count.
01:57There is a body count of a lot of people that like, I know the body count. Well, I mean,
02:02excuse me, I can start with the body count on you. Sure. What did you think of that moment?
02:07Cause I think everyone's face is even in that room. We're like, yeah, I wish I know that he
02:11probably wishes he had that moment back, but here's the thing with media and, and, and viewers,
02:17like you guys want us to say what's on our mind, you know, and then when we do, we get
02:21all in
02:22trouble. I was just with Sally and Rodrigo and Tyler over lunch, um, last weekend. And of course we
02:29were razzing each other and saying things like that. So we don't take it personally. We know each
02:35other's faults and foibles and sometimes we'd like to squeeze them a little bit. So I'm quite
02:41certain Sally's doing just fine. And I think her relationship with Austin is, is a very good
02:47at the moment at the moment. Do you think they'll ever make things official? Is that a, is that a
02:52possibility or is it? I don't think it's at that level or it really ever was, which is, I agree
02:59with
02:59Austin. Um, I know she wanted, I think she was desirous of that, but for whatever reason, I mean,
03:04there's just a lot of moving parts in this life, isn't there? I do want to ask about your dinner
03:08with Andy Cohen and John Mayer. I know we heard Andy's side of the story on his radio show a
03:13couple
03:13weeks ago. He said, I do not understand your speech patterns. He goes, I'm not disinterested.
03:21Yeah. It is a level of chaos that I don't, he said, I don't understand your rhythms.
03:27What was the craziest part of that evening for you, Craig and Austin?
03:31Oh my God. I mean, the funniest part was, um, obviously we all know who John Mayer is,
03:37but Austin and I are extremely, um, astute and passionate live music fans. Uh, we, I mean,
03:47Austin loves fish. I love the Grateful Dead. We both love the Grateful Dead.
03:51We're, we both know all the different musicians in that orbit. Right. So he, Austin and I are like,
03:58oh man, tell us about this. Tell us about that. Tell us about the Grateful Dead. And, and, um,
04:03Andy was like, you know, soaking it in and happy to see our enthusiasm. And it was funny. Cause I
04:09mean, Craig just, Craig likes pop music, you know, like, I'm not sure he, I know he doesn't know one
04:14Grateful Dead song. Right. I remember thinking, I wonder if Craig knows any of these people that
04:18we're talking about. Yeah. Craig does strike me as a, more of like a Taylor Swift type.
04:22Yes. He loves Taylor Swift. And by the way, extremely talented, uh, girl there, Taylor Swift.
04:28Well, it's funny cause you guys all seem to still hang out and go out despite like all the drama
04:32between Craig and Austin. What's it like for you to be in the middle of that?
04:36The drama seems to happen when they're not face to face.
04:39Uh, that's not always the case, you know, but, um, but Hey, I mean, there's some grievances. There's
04:47some deep seated, um, things that have occurred, but I do think that there's a lot of love there.
04:55And I keep, I keep going back to that. I, and I don't know if they can recapture that, but,
04:59um,
05:00I'm good with both of them. I'm, I'm, uh, you know, I'm probably, I talked to Austin like two or
05:05three times a day typically. So, um, I got there. I, I understand where everyone's coming from,
05:13but, um, I just don't know if there's some stubbornness that might be, uh, uh, you know,
05:20an impetus for real meaningful change. You mentioned that you talk to Austin every day
05:24and I know what the reunion Madden's Madison said, you know, this is the first time that we're all
05:29really friends outside of the show too. Would you agree with that? Yes. Yes. So there's a text
05:35chain that's so fun that intermittently gets sort of ignited and everyone is laughing and self
05:43deprecating. And, um, so I, I've never really had that before in all these years. Um, so there is
05:52a lot of affection there and it's kind of, it's kind of nice to see. So, um, I do believe
05:58that
05:58that exists. I've, I've seen it.
06:00So, um, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,
06:00I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,
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