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00:11Hello and welcome to your Tuesday One Show live on BBC One and I play out with Lauren Laverne.
00:17And JB Gill. Lots coming up tonight, including an award-winning singer who supported Taylor Swift.
00:23She's going to be joined on this sofa by not one, but two former stars of The Traitors.
00:28Yes, Celebrity Traitors faithful Lucy Beaumont is hitting the road for a brand new comedy tour.
00:34She'll be telling us how awkward quiz show moments inspired her latest show and lifting the lid on how she
00:39once invented a popular Italian dish.
00:41Yeah, or at least she thought so at the time.
00:44And fresh from his trip to Italy, we've got Traitors winner Harry Clarke, who's been on his best behaviour while
00:50on a mission to meet the Pope for a brand new BBC documentary.
00:54Later on, he's going to be exclusively revealing whether his pilgrimage to Rome was a success.
01:00Can't wait to find out. And closer to home, we are looking at a brand new pilgrim trail in Yorkshire
01:05that's sending locals on a spiritual journey of their own.
01:08Kevin Dwyer has been chatting to pilgrims about their personal reasons for travelling the 40-mile route in the stunning
01:14North York Moors.
01:15Oh, stunning's the word. It really is beautiful, that one.
01:17Also tonight, ahead of the release of her brilliant new album, we're joined by a singer whose music's been streamed
01:23more than half a billion times.
01:26Yes, Brit Award winner Holly Humberston is going to be telling us how it felt to be handpicked by Taylor
01:31Swift to support her on her era's tour.
01:34So amazing. And we love hearing from you.
01:36So if you've got a question or comment on anything in tonight's show, then do get in touch on WhatsApp
01:41033 0123 1700 on socials or on email.
01:45Yes, please. But first tonight, we're going to be shining a light on a subject that's never far from the
01:50headlines.
01:50That is homelessness.
01:52There are currently record numbers of rough sleepers across the UK, as well as more and more families living in
01:58temporary accommodation.
01:59Mina Shannon's been to Manchester to see how the community there has come together to not only help people get
02:04off the streets,
02:05but also give them back their independence.
02:10Chris has been sleeping rough on and off since he was 13, one of hundreds of thousands experiencing homelessness across
02:16Britain.
02:17It really does affect your mental health, so you've got nowhere where it's warm and just totally cuts you up
02:23inside.
02:25Manchester has a large homeless population, many living beneath the city's growing skyline of new apartment blocks.
02:31But now, a new project isn't just getting people off the streets.
02:36It's preparing them for independent living.
02:39But the biggest difference here is that the community itself came together to build it.
02:46This is Embassy Village, believed to be the UK's biggest purpose-built site for rough sleepers.
02:5240 homes under the rail arches, with shared areas for meals, training and support.
02:59It's run by Charity Director Sid Williams.
03:03There's been about 130 different local businesses, some trust funds, churches, all piling and helping us out with funding and
03:11people and time and building materials to get to this point.
03:14It's not just about, you know, getting people at home. It's much more than that, isn't it?
03:19We really want to see transformation in people's lives.
03:21What Embassy Village is doing is creating that scenario where, no, you are responsible for your own home, but in
03:26a community and a supportive community,
03:27where it's compulsory to learn to shop and cook and budget and get into work.
03:32This is a dress rehearsal for managing a home, for managing your finances.
03:37Paying a small amount of rent means residents can get a landlord's reference for when they move on.
03:42And that's what I'm excited about, is seeing people's lives turned around.
03:46Has there been any pushback with any of the neighbours or anything like that?
03:49The concerns were, is it going to be dangerous criminals?
03:52So when we're able to go, oh no, that's not who we work with, most people then were like, oh,
03:56that's fine then.
03:57Peel Waters has provided the land to be used as a homeless village on a 125-year lease.
04:04The idea for the project originally came from Managing Director James Whittaker.
04:09All these businesses work free of charge.
04:12I reckon it was probably, in terms of time spent, over £2 million at least, that was given by the
04:19business community to make this happen.
04:21It's the whole business community of Manchester coming together and seeing it through.
04:25Some of the local businesses who helped are here today.
04:28We provide town planning advice to normally developers, investors, landowners.
04:34But we've, on this occasion, been providing free town planning advice to assist with the delivery of the scheme.
04:39And it's brilliant to see it here and, you know, people moving in.
04:44We've supplied all the beds as a donation.
04:47This one included?
04:47Yeah, this one included.
04:48Very comfy.
04:49Yeah.
04:50We're a third generation family business and we had a store in Salford as well where we would see homeless
04:57people on the streets.
04:59And it was, yeah, heartbreaking really for them to see in and what was there.
05:07Everything here, from your bed to your kitchen, which is state-of-the-art, to a start-up kit with
05:13teabags and biscuits, has been donated by businesses across the region.
05:19Everything is in place for Chris, who today is moving in.
05:23Welcome to MC Village.
05:24And here you are.
05:25I've got the keys for your apartment.
05:27Brilliant.
05:28And he's the first resident to pick up his keys.
05:31Chris, how exciting is it getting the keys to your place?
05:35I would prove now I've been given them the chance.
05:38Just looking forward to the future and see what it brings.
05:41And with the help of the guys, it's looking good.
05:46Yeah.
05:47Sid's charity started helping the homeless back in 2019 by converting a former Coldplay tour bus into a mobile shelter.
05:55Today, he hopes to help hundreds more rebuild their lives, supported by local businesses offering jobs.
06:02I think employment's a really important piece.
06:04Because people are discovering a community with their colleagues at work and so on.
06:09They've got other communities by the time they leave us.
06:11What are you most proud of, Sam's in here right now?
06:13I think the team has worked unbelievably hard to get this done.
06:17Both volunteers and paid member staff, trustees.
06:20It's pretty humbling.
06:21This is a community coming together.
06:25Businesses, councils and volunteers.
06:27All proving that when people pull in the same direction, lives can change.
06:36Such a brilliant initiative there.
06:38Thank you, Mina.
06:39Yeah, wonderful idea.
06:40And seeing everybody pull together.
06:42And of course, we wish Chris the best of luck with everything.
06:45All right.
06:46Time now to introduce tonight's guests.
06:48We've got comedian Lucy Beaumont, Traitor's winner Harry Clark and musician Holly Humberston.
06:53Welcome on.
06:53Welcome, guys.
06:56Now, Harry, we just saw another Traitor's star there in Mina.
06:59Is it fair to say there's a good camaraderie between all the Traitor's stars from the different series?
07:03Yeah, definitely.
07:04I mean, I can feel Lucy getting further and further away.
07:08She doesn't want to be sat next to me, does she?
07:10But no, I say it's just like school, you know.
07:11When you leave school, you have these groups of friends.
07:14Them little gangs.
07:14And when we come together for an event or something, we're all just like best friends.
07:17So it's great.
07:18Yeah, Lucy.
07:19I mean, Harry's probably right there.
07:20Because you were faithful all the way, obviously.
07:22Harry, one of the best traitors we've had, definitely.
07:25But you were murdered face to face, weren't you?
07:27So how do you feel sitting next to Harry?
07:29I don't go to any events with Harry.
07:33No, I don't.
07:34I stay with you.
07:34No, I took it really personally.
07:36It's unbelievable.
07:37But your feet, you must feel awful.
07:40I did at the time, but then it was like, once I won, it was just reminding myself who I
07:45was there for.
07:47I've had a lot of practice with that answer.
07:50No redemption here.
07:51Now, Holly, you must be very excited to be sat alongside these two.
07:54Because you're a massive traitors fan, aren't you?
07:56I am.
07:56I'm not going to lie.
07:57Yeah.
07:57I love traitors.
07:58So I'm keeping my cool.
08:01Big fan of you both.
08:02You might do the celebrity one.
08:04I bet you'll keep going.
08:05Yeah.
08:05I think I'd be a bit hopeless, to be honest.
08:07Like, yeah.
08:08I mean, huge respect to the both of you.
08:10I feel like I'm a terrible liar.
08:11I could never be a traitor.
08:13And I feel like I act suspicious, even if I'm...
08:18So I don't know.
08:19I think I'd be one of the first to go.
08:22That might be a double blow.
08:23Exactly.
08:24But also, dream to watch, from our point of view, as viewers, I would enjoy that.
08:27Well, listen, it's not just celebrity traitors that Lucy's starred in.
08:32In the past few years, alongside her comedy, she's been on numerous quiz shows, from The
08:36Weakest Link to House of Games.
08:38But the results didn't exactly go to plan.
08:40And that is exactly the inspiration behind her brand new stand-up tour, which celebrates
08:44her quiz show fails.
08:46And before we find out more, let's take a quick look at Lucy on Celebrity Mastermind,
08:50answering questions on her specialist subject, Les Dawson.
08:53Oh, God.
08:54In 1973, Dawson made his Royal Variety Performance debut and was greeted with great acclaim, despite
09:00being very nervous at having to follow Lynn Seymour and which ballet dancer on the bill?
09:05Pass.
09:06On Dawson's second appearance as the subject of This Is Your Life in 1992, he was surprised
09:11by the presenter, Michael Aspel, at the curtain call of what pantomime at the Theatre Royal
09:16in Plymouth?
09:17Pass.
09:19Dawson's first novel, published in 1974 and based on his own escapades on the comedy circuit,
09:23it is entitled, A Card For The What?
09:27Pass.
09:28Aww.
09:30Lucy!
09:31I couldn't stop saying pass.
09:33There was one or two I knew, but I'd got in a rhythm.
09:36I couldn't stop.
09:37Do you know what?
09:37It's one of those things.
09:38When you do those shows, you actually can't get yourself out of your head sometimes, can
09:42you?
09:42Oh, it got worse.
09:44It got really bad.
09:46But he's like my idol, Les Dawson.
09:49I got in touch with his daughter and everything.
09:52I don't think you're allowed to say, but they said, well, read his autobiography because we'll
09:57ask you questions and that.
09:58And then I thought, oh, I'll read it the night before I do the show because then it'll all
10:02be in my head.
10:03But I fell asleep on page three.
10:05No!
10:06They didn't ask me anything up until page three.
10:10I could have told him where he was born, but they asked after.
10:14I said, I just haven't got to that part of the book yet.
10:17Lucy, you'd also, when we were watching that clip, you looked genuinely traumatised.
10:21Yes, you did.
10:21I was traumatised.
10:23But do you know, like, because it's an empty studio, but I heard laughing coming from behind
10:27a wall somewhere else.
10:29It was awful.
10:30Oh, no.
10:31It felt like a dream, though, you know, and I was like, and then, you know, when you go,
10:35in my head I was thinking, I don't think anyone watches Mastermind anymore.
10:39And then they said, it's going to be on Christmas Day or Christmas Eve.
10:42I was like, oh, my God.
10:43And it was my granddad that was, because my granddad was like, can you stop?
10:47Stop doing these shows, because I live in a cul-de-sac and I can't get away from the neighbours.
10:51Well, look, unfortunately for you, Mastermind is absolutely massive, especially on Christmas
10:55Eve.
10:56But this has all worked out fine, because you've taken inspiration from this and some other
11:01quiz shows that you've been on, where things didn't work out as you'd hoped.
11:04What kind of thing?
11:08What hasn't worked out?
11:09House of Games.
11:11Which shows?
11:12None of them have worked out.
11:13Well, the weakest link, I spent longer travelling than I was in the studio.
11:19I was in the studio 25 minutes.
11:22And it took three and a half hours to get down there.
11:25It's just been a nightmare.
11:27But they keep asking me to do it.
11:28And in my head I think, this time.
11:32The wheel, £98,000.
11:36You lost someone £98,000?
11:38Yeah.
11:38And then the second time, £75,000.
11:41Just because I didn't know about foxes.
11:46Harry, on a brighter note, you've been on the weakest link and did quite well, didn't you?
11:50Yeah, I know.
11:50I actually shocked myself, to be fair.
11:52I thought I was going to be a goner as soon as I went in there.
11:54And I actually did really well.
11:56I got halfway through.
11:57Then I got a question on salad.
11:58And I was just like, hey, does it look like I eat salad?
12:01And it was about a salad dressing.
12:03And I'm not a chef.
12:04I just survive off chicken nuggets and chips, by the way.
12:06So that's why I struggle with that one.
12:07And then just because I got that wrong, obviously it's a team game.
12:10Everyone just voted me out.
12:11And I was like, oh, cheers.
12:12I guess I deserve that one.
12:13But still, yeah, I did shock myself for how far I got.
12:16You're not better about it, though.
12:17No, no, no.
12:19Definitely not.
12:19You really got it.
12:20Still don't even know any salad dressings, either.
12:22Choose not to learn them now.
12:24I was going to say, there's still time.
12:25Now, Lucy, back to touring.
12:27You're going to be gigging all over the UK.
12:29Do you notice a difference when you're gigging in different regions?
12:32No, no.
12:33You know, because there used to be like a thing about saying like the North-South divide or like, you
12:38know, like, like Northerners are like, well, no, it was lovely the last tour.
12:43It was the same everywhere you go.
12:44But it's like people, like, really look forward to, like, you know, because people know who you are now.
12:50Because when you start out, you sort of prove yourself.
12:52And now it feels like you're just, like, in a room full of friends, you know.
12:56The best show for me was Guildford.
12:58And so, yeah, it just, it's the same.
13:01I think everyone, like, now, everyone, like, genuinely wants a laugh.
13:05Like, you need it, don't you?
13:07Yes, exactly.
13:07Especially these days.
13:09And, you know, you also talk about the previous jobs that you've had, including working at a pizza counter when
13:14you thought you'd invented a famous dish.
13:17Yeah.
13:19I worked at the supermarket.
13:21They put me, do you know, it's like where you pick your own toppings, do you know.
13:25And, like, so you put it on a, you don't want a long-winded version of this, do you.
13:29But you put it on, like, a plinth, you know, to put the shrink wrap over it.
13:33But because, like, some of the customers bullied me into putting too many toppings, it used to, like, collapse.
13:39And so I used to fold the pizzas over so none of the managers knew how much toppings I was
13:44putting on it.
13:45And then I finally saved up enough money to go to Italy with my friends.
13:49And everyone was eating calzone.
13:51And I thought, how was it caught on this quick?
13:56I honestly thought I'd invented folded pizzas.
14:00So, yeah.
14:01Brilliant.
14:02What do you mean before your time?
14:04I know.
14:05It blew my mind.
14:07Brilliant.
14:08Excellent.
14:08Well, tickets for Lucy's tour, Baddock Quiz Shows, Good With Weirdos, are available right now.
14:13Still to come, Holly's going to be telling us what it was like to play to 90,000 people at
14:17Wembley Stadium.
14:18Amazing.
14:19Plus, it will be exclusively revealing if Harry was successful on his mission to get an audience with the Pope
14:24as part of his new documentary.
14:26But first, with Easter just days away, Kevin DeWall has been to meet a group of people who've been on
14:31a spiritual quest of their own on a new pilgrim trail in Yorkshire.
14:38To mark Lent, visitors are gathering in the North York Moors for a trail that culminates at the stunning Revo
14:46Abbey.
14:46Going for a long walk in the beautiful countryside is undoubtedly good for you.
14:51But, you know, some people might just want to get more from it.
14:55That's what pilgrims are looking for today from the St. Elrids Trail.
15:00It has three routes mapped out, one for walkers, one for cyclists and one for horseback riders, taken in nine
15:06churches along the way.
15:08We're starting at Old Byland.
15:10I think it's great to be out in, sort of, have a reason to be out in nature.
15:15It gives it a purpose.
15:16It's a great thing to have the trail. It brings together everybody.
15:21The pilgrimage was the idea of George and Malgate, after a walk they took to Revo Abbey in 2009.
15:28The very first time you came through and Revo Abbey was in front of you, what was that feeling like?
15:34Didn't know what to expect, really. It was fantastic.
15:37The grandeur was just awe-inspiring.
15:40But something kicked off at that point and it kind of transformed our lives in a way.
15:45On the spot, they decided to move here and George realised he was on a spiritual journey too.
15:51The pilgrimage had become about me as well and my own spiritual journey about rediscovering my faith.
15:57And then we started going to church and creating the trail.
16:01It's very much about me with God and giving an opportunity for other people to find that experience as well.
16:08They named their trail after St. Elrids of Revo, a 12th century monk who lived at the Abbey.
16:13Mal and local farmer Joyce Garbert walked miles of public footpaths to devise the best walking trail.
16:20It stretches for 41 miles.
16:22You've got fabulous views, but it's steep hills.
16:26Horse riding and cycling routes were then added.
16:28John, Andrew and their mates are following the 36-mile bike pilgrimage.
16:33It's going to take about five hours, I would think, today.
16:35And whether you're spiritual with a capital S or spiritual with a small S, it's just a great opportunity to
16:42get together with some like-minded friends and, you know, cycle what is just a gorgeous trail.
16:49Back on the walking route, the first stop is Scorton.
16:52What made you want to come on the pilgrimage in the first place?
16:55There is something so kind of analogue about going back to a pilgrimage and meeting people and connecting in a
17:01really meaningful way without having to jump on your phone.
17:04Bill Tate is guiding the 50-mile horseback pilgrimage today.
17:08This is Amigo, and he's taken me safely hundreds of miles all over these moors.
17:16In the past, people would travel on horseback or on foot, and they'd be visiting places like Revo.
17:22Well, the best views are always from the back of a horse.
17:25Across all the trails, there are over 120 pilgrims today, and George is impressed by the turnout.
17:31Did you ever thought you'd be a daylight today?
17:35Not in my wildest dreams, and it just grows.
17:38I mean, it's growing.
17:38This is bigger than last year, and I'm just worrying about next year now, Kevin.
17:46This annual Lent pilgrimage has attracted people from far afield.
17:50Bishop Andrew Rumsey has come from Wiltshire to take part.
17:54We're in the season of Lent, and everybody together is walking towards Easter.
17:59I've made some fascinating connections already today, and I think sometimes you discover those kinds of depths while you're walking
18:06together.
18:07When you're on the same path, you discover relationship.
18:12But personally for you, then, why are you here?
18:14Originally, I came on this pilgrimage because I wanted to see Revo Abbey.
18:18Before long, the cyclists have done their 36 miles.
18:22It makes you really appreciate what's important, and especially when you're doing it with family and friends.
18:29Brilliant.
18:30After our long journey, we all converge on the Abbey itself, where we're welcomed in true Yorkshire fashion by the
18:38Billsdale Silver Band.
18:42Seeing the Abbey across the valley, it was spectacular.
18:47It's actually been really special.
18:49I wouldn't go home and think about things.
18:50It just captured the essence of what I hope the St. Aaron's Pilgrim Trail is about.
18:59I mean, such a beautiful backdrop.
19:01They're gorgeous.
19:02A lovely part of the world, isn't it?
19:03I need to go and visit that Abbey.
19:04I was straight on the National Trust's website when I heard about that film.
19:07Of course you were.
19:07All over it.
19:08Now, Harry, I'm sure that that film will resonate with you because you've been on a pilgrimage too, but on
19:14yours, you were trying to meet the Pope.
19:16So take us back on all of this.
19:18How did it come about?
19:19It's the craziest story, actually.
19:21I'll try and keep it short and sweet, but it was literally from the pilgrimage I went on before that.
19:26So I went on BBC Pilgrimage, where we travelled through the Alps and Austria, and we were actually sat in
19:32a pilgrim hostess's little cabin.
19:34There was donkeys walking around and that cockerel's walking through, and there was this lovely German woman who couldn't speak
19:39a word of English.
19:40Anyway, we'd finished filming.
19:41I got the Google Translate out, trusty Google Translate.
19:44She basically said to us, look, in wintertime, this is covered in snow, so all of the food, drink, everything
19:49needs to be gone from the farm.
19:50So she said, I've got you a present.
19:52She walks in with these home-brewed two cases of beer, and I was like, lovely.
19:56And I'm sat there next to Tom, which is a producer at CTVC, which I made this new show with.
20:02And we're there.
20:02We tried these home-brewed beers, and they went down swell, as you can imagine.
20:05We're just chatting to each other, and again, I've got loads of ideas firing out my ears, my nose, my
20:09mouth.
20:10I mean, I don't know why I didn't start with my mouth, but they're just firing out all the time,
20:13as you can tell.
20:14And I'm sat there, and I'm speaking to him, and he's like, what do you want to do next?
20:16And I'm like, mate, I could do this, I could do that.
20:18And he's like, yeah, but as a Catholic, what do you want to do next?
20:20And at that point in my life, the pilgrimage, that one, through Austria and Switzerland, had deepened my faith massively.
20:26But I thought I was still a modern Catholic.
20:28I didn't believe the historical values of the church, didn't necessarily believe in the Bible.
20:32I thought the church was within.
20:34I don't need to go every Sunday to prove I'm a Catholic.
20:36So I said, you know what?
20:37I'll just go to Rome and ask the Pope all these questions.
20:39And he's gone, yeah, all right, mate, yeah, yeah.
20:41And I've gone, no, I would, if someone wanted to take the shot at it.
20:44And then that was the start of the idea.
20:46Yeah.
20:47Well, yes, you can probably tell from his excitement.
20:49In Harry's new documentary, he's relentless in his pursuit to get an audience with the Pope to discuss what it
20:54means to be a Catholic today.
20:56So let's have a little look at what we can expect.
20:59Hello.
21:00I have a crazy question, actually.
21:01Do you reckon it's possible for me to meet the Pope at all?
21:06I've not been to confession for so long, between six to ten years.
21:10If you've done anything which is what we call a mortal sin, you need sacramental confession.
21:16I don't want to read it.
21:17I don't want to read it.
21:18Who's the front?
21:19I just had a message from someone from the back.
21:22I'm literally, like, shaking.
21:25I mean, the stress of waiting for the Vatican to text you back, I can't even imagine.
21:31But as we saw there, you know, lots of obstacles in your way, lots of dead ends that you reached.
21:35But you did have someone with you for moral support, and that was your mum.
21:39Why was it important for you to have her?
21:41I mean, firstly, shout out to the most important woman in my life, my mum.
21:45It's her birthday today.
21:46Yeah.
21:46Happy birthday, mum.
21:47We love you.
21:48Happy birthday.
21:48She was just, like, the rock.
21:51She's the rock for everyone who knows her, especially in my faith journey.
21:55You know, I only had faith because my mum made me go to church as a kid, and I didn't
21:59want to disappoint her.
22:00So growing up, it was always, I'm a Catholic because of my mum.
22:03And then when I went through a hard time with my own mental health issues, being in the army when
22:07I was around 20,
22:08it was funny because I remember I literally went to my mum.
22:11And I was sat there, I put my hands up, and I said, look, mum, I've used up all my
22:14resources.
22:14I feel like a burden on you, the family.
22:17She just simply went to me, Harry, what's the one thing you know how to do?
22:19Just start praying again.
22:21And then that moment there was basically what saved my life.
22:23So, yeah, I couldn't thank her enough, and I couldn't have asked for a better travel partner either.
22:28Yeah, I mean, it's an amazing thing, isn't it?
22:30It's such a turning point in the past.
22:31Oh, sorry to butt in.
22:32No, go on.
22:32She's got five other kids, so I wanted to be the favourite for at least a bit.
22:35I mean, we can go with the first one, but secondly, also, I do want to be favourite,
22:40and hopefully now I am for at least a year.
22:42That as well.
22:43It's going to be hard to top this joke.
22:44I know, exactly.
22:45Well, listen, Harry, you've got to put us out of our misery.
22:48Did you manage to get the meeting, yes or no?
22:50I don't know, drumroll, please.
22:52I mean, I should probably give a disclaimer, I'm not lying when I say this, but yes.
22:56I met Pope Leo the 14th, and it was insane.
23:00We had a private meeting in his office as well,
23:02so it wasn't just like he walked past me and I got his eyesight and was like,
23:06yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:07No, like we had an actual meeting in his office for about half an hour.
23:11Half an hour?
23:12Yeah, he invited me to stay.
23:13So imagine we meet first, and we're there, and I'm like,
23:16oh my gosh, I'm meeting the Pope, you know, like this is insane.
23:19And then we get speaking, and he gives me a gift,
23:21I give him a gift, which is the best gift in the world.
23:23What did you give him?
23:24I gave him a Chelsea home kit shirt with Pope Leo 14th on the back.
23:27I just thought, if I could give him anything that's me, what is me?
23:31And that's just me to a T.
23:33You know, there's two most important things in my life,
23:36and my faith, my family, but also Chelsea.
23:39Yeah.
23:39And so it just worked perfectly.
23:41And then, yeah, he said to me at the end of that little meeting,
23:43do you have five minutes?
23:44And I'm looking around going, do I have five minutes?
23:47I mean, I've got all day if you want.
23:48Yeah, let me check my diary, do you know what I mean?
23:49See if I've got five minutes.
23:51And then he was like, come and join me in my office,
23:53and bring whoever you want.
23:54But he was so chilled the whole time, and he was like,
23:57yeah, bring your mum, bring Johnny, the director.
23:59I'm like, this is crazy.
24:00And it just blew my mind how humble and how much of an amazing person he was.
24:04And did he give you a blessing in all of that?
24:06Yeah, of course.
24:06Yeah, he gave us a blessing.
24:07Funny enough, I know you probably won't believe this.
24:09I don't even think anyone's going to believe it,
24:11because even my mum said, what do people say this is AI?
24:14I'm like, I don't care anyway, because I got to meet him,
24:16and I actually asked if I could pray for him.
24:18So when we were in the office, because I just thought,
24:20that's your job.
24:21You pray for everyone all the time,
24:22but how many times a day does someone pray for you?
24:24Or say it out loud.
24:25He let me pray for him, and then I did that in front of my mum and Johnny,
24:28and we're there, and we got to speak about everything.
24:30And I think the first initial thing that blew me off my chair
24:34was that when we sat down, he started speaking to me about mental health.
24:38And I was like, wow, because that was something I'd been through.
24:42And you also expect the Pope to have that faith pattern,
24:44that hits you over the head and says, God is the answer.
24:47God is everything.
24:48You need God in your life.
24:48And he said, look, Harry, we have a problem,
24:50and I want to try to fix it.
24:51And I think people need to realise that whether you have God in your life or not,
24:55life is worth living, and that's the most important thing.
24:57And that was just really the moment where I was like, wow,
25:00this is the most humble, nicest human being I've ever sat across.
25:04Well, I mean, honestly, it's so profound hearing you speak like that.
25:08And you can all watch Harry Clark Goes to Rome on Thursday night
25:11at 10.40 on BBC One and iPlayer.
25:13Now, it's been a big few years for Holly here.
25:16Since winning the Rising Star Award at the Brits in 2022,
25:19she's gone on to tour with the likes of Taylor Swift,
25:22Sam Fender, and Olivia Rodrigo, to name but three.
25:25Her songs have racked up over half a billion streams online too,
25:29and now she's getting ready to play some big gigs of her own
25:32over the summer.
25:33Holly, this is such an exciting time.
25:36So you've been making music since you were very little,
25:38but I know that it was actually your local radio station
25:41and their introducing show, BBC Radio Nottingham,
25:45that gave you your first break.
25:46Well, I mean, I have a lot to owe to Dean Jackson,
25:51I feel like is the icon of the East Midlands.
25:54But yeah, I started making music when I was really young,
25:57just kind of at home.
25:58I grew up in quite a creative household.
26:01And yeah, I would just kind of make demos on my dad's laptop,
26:06and I uploaded, like, kind of a crazy rubbish song
26:11to BBC Introducing,
26:14which is like an amazing platform for kind of,
26:18for people who want to be discovered.
26:20And yeah, they were just like really, really lovely
26:24and really supportive and had me in to do, like,
26:27a live session on the BBC, which was amazing.
26:30And it's kind of just kind of gone from there.
26:33Yeah.
26:33Well, it's definitely gone,
26:35because those songs have certainly improved.
26:37And a massive fan of yours is none other than Taylor Swift.
26:40She actually chose you to go on her Eras tour with her,
26:43didn't she?
26:43Yeah, she did.
26:44I mean, I peaked in August 24.
26:48Big time for me, yeah.
26:50Yeah, it was amazing.
26:52Like, obviously, just so cool to be championed
26:55by somebody like Taylor Swift,
26:56who I've grown up idolising.
26:59And yeah, so cool.
27:00Dream come true.
27:01Well, fans like Taylor are in for a treat
27:03as Holly is about to release new music.
27:05So let's take a listen to the title track
27:07from her latest album, Cruel World.
27:14Without you, baby
27:18It's a cruel world
27:21Sugar, don't you be running away for long, please
27:26Let's get your movie and get caught in the rain
27:30Wherever you are is my favorite place
27:35It's a cruel world
27:38Without you, baby
27:40Beautiful.
27:43Just can't get enough of a gal with a sword.
27:46It's my kind of thing.
27:47Of course.
27:47So, Holly, lots of love coming in for you.
27:49For example, Emily and Eva say
27:52we're currently on our 20th show of Holly's tour.
27:54We are so excited for the new album.
27:57She means so much to us.
27:59I love those girls.
28:00Tell us a little bit about what they've got coming up
28:02because you say that this album's a reflection for you
28:05of how far you've come.
28:06Yeah, I mean, I feel like I've learned a lot about myself
28:09through just the writing process and the creation process.
28:13And I feel like not a lot of artists are afforded just time and space
28:18to figure out who they are as people, you know, let alone artists.
28:23And I've had the most fun kind of on tour,
28:25getting to play shows with my band who have become like my family.
28:29And, yeah, I just I wanted to make an album that felt, yeah, like a band.
28:35And I have lots to kind of celebrate and so much love in my life.
28:40And I'm really, really proud of this next chapter
28:43and excited to get to share it
28:45and feel incredibly lucky to get to do this as a job.
28:49So, yeah.
28:50Well, you should be.
28:51I mean, you've got some massive gigs on the horizon as well.
28:54You're going to be in Coachella in California coming up
28:56and obviously Hyde Park as well in the summer.
28:58So how are you looking forward to those?
29:00I'm so excited.
29:01Yeah, I mean, yeah, I've been at home for the past year and a half,
29:06like here in London, just writing and making this music.
29:09And my favourite thing in the world is being on stage
29:12and getting to connect with people in real time.
29:16And, yeah, have those like shared experiences that make you feel human.
29:20And I think that's kind of what music is all about.
29:22And, yeah, that's why I love to do it,
29:24just getting to connect with people.
29:26And I'm so excited to get to travel.
29:29And, yeah, it's great.
29:31I can't complain.
29:32I'm so excited.
29:34Yeah.
29:34Yeah.
29:35Oh, well, Holly's album Cruel World is out on the 10th of April.
29:39Well, we've had lots of lovely messages,
29:41including this for Lucy from Glenn, who says,
29:43I thought Lucy was brilliant in her recent play Road in Manchester.
29:47Would love to see her doing more acting.
29:49That's all we've got time for tonight.
29:51Thank you to our wonderful guests.
29:52Yes, I'll be here tomorrow with Angelica.
29:54We're joined by Matt Tebbett and Joel Dummett.
29:56Plus, Matt's here with Watchdog.
29:57Have a lovely evening.
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