00:00I love the introduction of Ash.
00:01James Marsden was the perfect person to play this.
00:04Even when you're supposed to hate him, you kind of love him.
00:06Was that the original, you know, kind of idea for that character?
00:09Or was it something that James Marsden just brought to it?
00:12No, we, when we were in the writer's room, when we came up with the character of Owen
00:16Ash, after we'd been talking about him for a day or two, we actually put a picture of
00:19Marsden on the wall.
00:20And he was our, he was our North Star.
00:22We didn't think we'd get him.
00:24So we're like, we need a guy like this.
00:25And then I just stalked him and we managed to get him.
00:29Cause you realize nobody knew what the show was yet.
00:31Even when I went to him for season two, season one hadn't aired yet.
00:34So I had to sort of introduce him to the show and send him cuts and, you know, really talk
00:40him through it.
00:40And I love that he has the chemistry with Olivia and they go way back.
00:44I know.
00:45I didn't know that till he showed up on set.
00:46No way.
00:47And she's like, Jimmy.
00:48I'm like, Jimmy, who's Jimmy?
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