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00:00:29The first phone call I received from Emma was on a Friday, it was in the middle of the night.
00:00:40I had just had a bit of a nerve-wracking conversation with one of my other children who was having
00:00:50a rough time.
00:00:52So I was already stressed and finding it difficult to get back to sleep.
00:00:59As a matter of fact, I couldn't go back to sleep.
00:01:05So when the phone rang in the middle of the night again, I just assumed it was my other child
00:01:13calling again.
00:01:17And it wasn't, it was Emma. It was Emma calling.
00:01:25She was crying and she was saying that she wanted to come home.
00:01:33Could she come home?
00:01:36I said, Emma, you have a home. This is your home. This will always be your home.
00:01:44I was trying to calm her down because I wouldn't say she was hysterical, but she was crying a lot.
00:01:52She was really, really distraught and I wanted to calm her down.
00:01:57So I said, when we get off the phone, Emma, I can't wait to go tell Oscar that you're coming
00:02:04home.
00:02:06Oscar was the one that she loved the most out of the three brothers.
00:02:11And she said, through tears, she said, you don't have to do that. Oscar will already know.
00:02:23It was very Emma. It was very Emma for her to say something like that.
00:02:33I resisted crying on the phone because I didn't think that would be of help to Emma.
00:02:38I wanted to cry. I did not.
00:02:49I stayed up the rest of the night.
00:03:09The next morning I was supposed to tutor a student, but because of that phone call,
00:03:17and I had a feeling I would hear from Emma again, and soon I asked the father that he bring
00:03:28his son here to tutor.
00:03:30And when they arrived for the tutoring session, the phone rang again, and it was Emma.
00:03:39And so I indicated to the father that there was an issue, and so he took his son and said,
00:03:46never mind, we know we'll do this again next weekend.
00:03:53So I spoke to Emma. She wasn't in tears, but she was very distraught.
00:04:00I could tell that there was something very, very wrong, but I didn't know what.
00:04:04And I couldn't ask her because I knew she wouldn't have vaulted,
00:04:07and I thought it might alienate her to some extent and push her away.
00:04:10So I didn't ask what was wrong.
00:04:13I said to her, I said, I've booked a ticket to come to Victoria to see you.
00:04:21And she said, no, no, no, don't come. Don't come. I don't need you to come.
00:04:25I just needed to talk to you. Please, please don't come.
00:04:31So respecting that wish against my better judgment, I cancelled my flight.
00:04:51The next phone call was Sunday, and we were back to she wanted to come home.
00:05:00Only this time she added that she needed help to come home.
00:05:04She said, I can't do it on my own.
00:05:06She said, I have a van that I need to sell or get fixed up.
00:05:11Maybe I could drive it back. Maybe you could fly one way.
00:05:15We could drive the van back to Ontario.
00:05:19I have so much stuff. I have precious things.
00:05:22Mom, I can't do without them. They have to come with me.
00:05:25And I said, well, I think probably driving the van, if it's not working now,
00:05:31it's probably not the best idea to drive across country in it.
00:05:35We would probably fly.
00:05:37And she said, but I have too many things in it.
00:05:39She said, I have a trunk. I have books. I have pictures.
00:05:43I have Grandpa's old comforter.
00:05:48So she said, I can't. I said, well, we can take a lot on the plane and the rest we
00:05:52can ship, Emma.
00:05:53We can work it out. We can work it out.
00:05:55No, don't come.
00:05:59Then, yes, okay, maybe come. I need help.
00:06:02She wavered. She wavered. You could tell that she wanted not to need help.
00:06:10So I said that I would come.
00:06:13And that's where we left it on that phone call.
00:06:17And there was another phone call.
00:06:23I hadn't left yet. My suitcases were packed.
00:06:28And it was, don't come.
00:06:32I'm figuring things out.
00:06:34I may need you to come later, but right now I've got things to figure out.
00:06:39So I don't want you to come.
00:06:40I don't want you to come.
00:06:46So, my heart was just, it was just broken.
00:06:51I just, the pain I felt for Emma, for what she must have been going through was almost insurmountable.
00:07:08By that time, I chose to talk to my other children and to my husband, my ex-husband.
00:07:17And the opinion was unanimous.
00:07:20And the opinion was, if Emma's last words were, don't come, then you need to respect those wishes.
00:07:29You are too forthright.
00:07:35You are too determined.
00:07:38You are hurting.
00:07:41You are hurting for Emma.
00:07:43Emma doesn't want you to come.
00:07:45You can't go.
00:07:47She probably won't even see you.
00:07:49She'll probably turn you away.
00:07:52In one of the phone calls, I suggested to Emma that I come to Victoria.
00:07:58And I'm going to bring some books.
00:08:00And I said, you know how rough teaching is and how tired I always am and stressed and exhausted.
00:08:05So I'm going to bring a couple of books.
00:08:07And I'm going to let you know what hotel I'm in and what my room number is.
00:08:12And if you decide that you want to see me or you want my help, I will already be in
00:08:18Victoria.
00:08:19I thought that was a fabulous solution.
00:08:21Emma did not think that was a good solution at all.
00:08:24She did not like that at all.
00:08:25She didn't want, she clearly didn't want me in the city during this, at this point.
00:08:34So, cancel the flight, didn't unpack my suitcase.
00:08:40Something told me that there was going to be a point at which I would be going to Victoria.
00:08:47Knowing that either she was going to give me the okay or I was just going to go.
00:08:53Because by then, I am frantic.
00:09:05And when that came up on my caller display, I thought Sandy Merriman was a friend.
00:09:11So the first time, I didn't think too much of it.
00:09:14And I thought, well, don't call her back.
00:09:16Let her, she's calling you.
00:09:18She's calling you.
00:09:18Don't, don't interfere with that.
00:09:20Don't, don't be pushy.
00:09:22She's called you.
00:09:24She's going to call you again.
00:09:25So don't call.
00:09:28But on the second time that she called from there, I thought, I'm going to call.
00:09:36I'm going to take that chance.
00:09:38I'm going to take that risk.
00:09:40She may be angry with me.
00:09:42She'll be upset with me, but I'm going to do that.
00:09:44So I called back that number.
00:09:50And they answered Sandy Merriman Shelter for Women.
00:09:54And that's when I discovered she was staying at a shelter.
00:10:03They weren't allowed to divulge much.
00:10:07I asked if Emma was safe.
00:10:15And they said that Emma was safe.
00:10:21I said, do you think I should come to Victoria?
00:10:29And their response was something like, well, we can't really advise you.
00:10:40Staying put and staying home was so difficult because all I wanted to do was go and hold her and
00:10:48help her.
00:10:52I talked to the kids and James again and they said, you just can't go.
00:10:56You just can't go, mom.
00:10:58And please, please don't go.
00:10:59And I deferred to them because I really felt that James and the other kids knew Emma better than I
00:11:10knew Emma.
00:11:17I knew about her need for privacy.
00:11:20I knew that secrecy had kind of snuck in and increased the privacy because of the emails and not phoning
00:11:29very often and that kind of thing.
00:11:33But I didn't feel that I really understood Emma as much as her siblings did and her dad because she
00:11:41was so close to her dad, so close.
00:11:45So I followed their advice.
00:11:47I followed their advice.
00:11:49I followed their advice.
00:11:52And then to the kids.
00:12:08I said, I have to ask, well, you saw a little bit when your wife, everyone.
00:12:11I couldn't help her.
00:12:15I told her that you were given me.
00:12:28Finally on Wednesday morning the 28th of November at about 7 o'clock my time, so 4 o'clock Emma's
00:12:43time, the phone rings and it's Emma and she says the following, she says,
00:12:52don't come, not today mum, she hung up the phone, that was it, I got on the first plane I
00:13:07could, my suitcase hadn't been unpacked, I flew up to Victoria,
00:13:33I was there as the onlyasticity in it being for, I could put it in my pocket.
00:13:35I might say during the week later on next time, I'm out.
00:13:40.
00:14:11I arrived at the airport about 9 o'clock in that night, B.C. time.
00:14:20I got my luggage, grabbed the taxi.
00:14:29So I got there, and it was all very hush-hush, and you know, 11 o'clock, somebody ringing their
00:14:37bell and stuff, and I explained who I was, so they said okay, and they let me in, the taxi
00:14:41left.
00:14:44The nighttime supervisor was there, and I said, so what do you think? Should I wake Emma up, or should
00:14:52I wait?
00:14:53And she said, Emma's not here. She didn't come for her bed.
00:15:04I didn't panic at all, because I thought, she's 26, it's 11 o'clock, it's not 3 o'clock in
00:15:11the morning.
00:15:12She's not 14. Of course she could be out.
00:15:20So she said, the supervisor said, let's go up to my office and talk.
00:15:27That set off all kinds of lights.
00:15:31I thought, why are we going upstairs to talk?
00:15:34Why are we going someplace really private to talk?
00:15:38That set struck me as very odd.
00:15:43I didn't lose my composure.
00:15:46I was on edge.
00:15:48I didn't know why we were doing that.
00:15:51We went upstairs.
00:15:54She said, Emma, hasn't been well.
00:15:59There are issues with Emma.
00:16:04I said, oh, okay.
00:16:07And then all those phone calls started playing in my head, and the tears, and the come and the don't
00:16:12come, and everything.
00:16:17And then, just like that, she said, I think we should call the police.
00:16:24Well, then I just, I didn't know exactly what was wrong with Emma, of course.
00:16:34But I knew that it had to be really, really serious for her to say, let's call the police.
00:16:43So she called the police, and two police officers came.
00:16:48And the three of them decided that she should be designated a missing person.
00:16:57So my perception was, well, why are they designating her a missing person?
00:17:04Because she missed her bed once.
00:17:08Why would you be alarmed?
00:17:10I mean, I was alarmed because I had the phone calls, but I couldn't understand why they were so alarmed.
00:17:18Alarmed enough to call the police and designate her a missing person.
00:17:22That was serious.
00:17:25And then I started thinking all kinds of horrible things.
00:17:31I didn't know what to do.
00:17:35One of the police officers said, the best thing you can do is get a hotel room, and we'll go
00:17:42looking for her on the streets.
00:17:47There was a hotel directly across from the shelter.
00:17:52So I said, I'll take my luggage over there, and I'll check in and get a room.
00:17:57I said, and then I'm going looking for my daughter.
00:17:59And they said, absolutely not.
00:18:02The streets of Victoria aren't safe.
00:18:04You shouldn't be wandering alone.
00:18:05The next thing you know, there's going to be a second missing person.
00:18:12We strongly advise you not to.
00:18:14If we see you on the street, we will probably request that you get in the car and that we
00:18:20take you back to your hotel.
00:18:22We don't want to see you on the street.
00:18:30So I foolishly, and that's in retrospect, I foolishly thought that there would be a significant effort on the part
00:18:42of the police to find this young woman who suddenly is designated a missing person.
00:18:48Things are so serious, things that I'm not aware of have escalated to the point that they decide.
00:18:56The supervisor and the police decide.
00:18:59I wasn't really part of the conversation.
00:19:01I was there, but I wasn't really part of the conversation, decided that she should be considered a missing person.
00:19:09So I got a hotel room, a room that overlooked the street, so I could see the shelter from my
00:19:16room.
00:19:18I didn't undress.
00:19:20I got on the bed, propped up the pillows, and I sat at the window, and I watched the entrance
00:19:26to the Sandy Merriman shelter.
00:19:34One young woman went by, didn't go to the shelter, but she went by, and I leapt up.
00:19:39I just jumped up, and I thought, oh, that must be Emma.
00:19:43And I was about to run downstairs when I finally saw her closer, and she didn't go near the shelter,
00:19:49or she bypassed the shelter, and I realized there wasn't Emma.
00:19:51So I sat up for the night, watching the shelter door.
00:20:01So when Emma was reported missing, officers took steps immediately that night.
00:20:07They broadcast her description on air for all the areas, and we sent a message to all the MDTs, that's
00:20:12the mobile computers in the patrol cars themselves.
00:20:15So officers that night knew who they were looking for.
00:20:21They did a lot of area checks, checking parks and other locations where people would hang out.
00:20:26They got a picture of Emma, which was added to our patrol briefing.
00:20:30So the oncoming shift the next morning would have a picture of Emma, and they'd know who they were looking
00:20:34for.
00:20:39We checked with area hospitals all up and down the islands, checked if they had dealt with Emma, or if
00:20:45they had any unknown females, or Jane Doe.
00:20:54Victoria police are looking for a missing woman tonight, and they're hoping you can help them find her.
00:20:58Her name is Emma Philipoff.
00:21:00She's 26 years old, and she was last seen in the 800 block of Burdett Avenue last night.
00:21:05Police say she frequents the downtown area, but she has no history of going missing.
00:21:09She was last seen wearing camouflage pants, and was carrying an orange purse.
00:21:14If you see Emma Philipoff, or you know her whereabouts, you're asked to contact police.
00:21:26The second day I went back to the shelter, she still wasn't there.
00:21:31I thought, I'm going to walk the streets, because I'm going to go around the corner and I'm going to
00:21:35run into Emma.
00:21:36I'm going to check coffee shops, I'm going to check down by the harbour, I'm going to check places that
00:21:43I think Emma might be.
00:21:48Went to the library, I think even that first day.
00:21:56I went back to the shelter to talk to them and get some advice.
00:22:02Whoever I spoke to said, I suggest you start putting up posters.
00:22:12When you start putting up missing posters of your child, you start thinking, there's a lot more to this story.
00:22:24And something is so desperately wrong, that it's probably something you can't really fathom.
00:22:33Hi Emma.
00:22:37Hi Emma.
00:22:38Hi Emma.
00:22:39Hi Emma.
00:22:40Can you do a little one for me over there?
00:22:42Hi Emma.
00:22:43She's wearing Batman.
00:22:46Let's take a picture.
00:22:49Because she got to a stage where she was reticent to have her picture taken, I had very few adult
00:22:59pictures of Emma.
00:23:01And out there with me, I had none.
00:23:05So I said to them, I said, well, I don't have a single picture.
00:23:09They said, well, we have one picture.
00:23:13So that would have been the first time that she had gone to the shelter.
00:23:17It was the only picture I had.
00:23:22And then I discovered, much to my dismay, that in Victoria you can't just put posters up just anywhere.
00:23:30I didn't know that.
00:23:32So I was putting up Emma's poster on every pole, went into restaurants, went into stores.
00:23:40So as I was putting up posters, the town bylaw officer, I guess, was systematically taking them all down.
00:23:51I continued to approach restaurants, stores, bars, pubs, you name it, I approached them.
00:24:00Some were very great about it and said, I will put it right in the door.
00:24:05And some places said staff bathroom or staff room.
00:24:14One of the places that wouldn't put up a poster of Emma anywhere but in the staff room or in
00:24:19the staff bathroom was the library.
00:24:22Where Emma frequented, Emma frequented the library daily, sometimes for hours.
00:24:34So then I guess my next step was to get in touch with friends of Emma's from home and asking
00:24:44for pictures.
00:24:46So at last I had some colour photos.
00:25:03I'm thinking by then, a really kind young man called James stepped into my life.
00:25:12And he had seen the poster and on the poster of course was my email.
00:25:17So he emailed me and said, I don't know who you are, but I don't know why you think Emma's
00:25:27missing.
00:25:27But Emma's not missing.
00:25:31Emma can't be missing.
00:25:32She's not missing. You're mistaken.
00:25:34Like aggressive almost, like what's wrong with you?
00:25:38So I responded and I said, dear James, I'm Emma's mum.
00:25:44I spoke to Emma quite a few times before I came to Victoria and she had asked me to come
00:25:50out and then nod and I explained the situation to him.
00:25:53I said, I really feel that something is seriously wrong and the police had designated her a missing person as
00:26:03well.
00:26:04So he said, oh.
00:26:09When she first went missing, the way that I found out was a friend of mine taped her missing poster
00:26:17to my door, my apartment.
00:26:20And the first thing I thought was, oh no, it's just a jealous boyfriend.
00:26:25He just doesn't understand. She wants to live free and like, she doesn't want commitments and she just doesn't want
00:26:31to have a phone.
00:26:32She just wants to get away.
00:26:33That was my first really strong feeling of like, this is just a silly, jealous boyfriend.
00:26:39And then I found out that it was her mom.
00:26:42Then I was like, oh, maybe simple.
00:26:45Maybe it is more serious, you know.
00:26:48But that was my initial gut feeling.
00:26:53I met him probably the next day.
00:26:56And I think he came to the hotel lobby.
00:26:58I think that's where we met.
00:27:02Not that much longer after, he invited his friend Sever Bronnie, who's a Canadian author, to join us.
00:27:11So James and Sever were best friends.
00:27:13I believe that James was the best man at Sever's wedding.
00:27:18Either he invited Sever or he told them about what was going on and Sever said, I maybe can help.
00:27:24Can I help?
00:27:25So Sever and I and James worked as a team.
00:27:32We started meeting at different coffee shops and we planned our strategies.
00:27:40I handed out posters for them to poster, to hand out.
00:27:44We continued creating Emma's Facebook page.
00:27:48James and Sever saved my life out there because I'm not great with computers.
00:27:57I'm also geographically impaired.
00:28:00So I found that their knowledge of the city and their ability to create little maps for us to use
00:28:08to say, OK, you're going to go here and I'm going to go there was beyond helpful.
00:28:14Now, no one had a car.
00:28:16It wasn't safe because I would never have my eyes on the road.
00:28:20I'd have my eyes on the sidewalk looking for Emma.
00:28:23So I never rented a car.
00:28:25So everywhere we went, we went on foot.
00:28:28But that was advantageous because on your way to a location, of course, we looked, we searched, right?
00:28:38I went with two women who offered to drive me around to different locations.
00:28:45So I myself went to a number of the small islands around Victoria and a lot of them just had
00:28:54a general store, one restaurant, you know, that type of thing.
00:28:58And everybody was very friendly and helpful and caring and said, yes, we'll put up a poster and leave some
00:29:06posters and we'll hand them out to people that we know that, you know, move around a bit.
00:29:12And that's how we spread the news on the islands.
00:29:20So as the investigation went on, we were speaking with Emma's mom, Shelly.
00:29:26She was running her own sort of parallel investigation and doing what she could to find her daughter.
00:29:30And she was sharing all the information she received at the time.
00:29:34So we were taking those leads and investigating those points as well.
00:29:38One of the things we found was Emma's van, which we went through and found some of her possessions and
00:29:43things like her journals, which we were able to read through, trying to develop these as to what was going
00:29:48on with Emma at the time and where she might have been.
00:29:52I discovered that Emma had a van that the police had confiscated and it appeared that all her belongings were
00:30:03in it.
00:30:06They said that they had to have the van first because right away I wanted to get into it and
00:30:12see what I could find and see if there were any clues.
00:30:16They said no, it needed to go through forensic testing and fingerprinting.
00:30:21And so it was a while before I had access to her van.
00:30:32Tips and information started to trickle into the Help Find Emma Philippoff Facebook page.
00:30:38And among the messages that I got, a number of them were of sightings of Emma on the day she
00:30:48went missing.
00:30:50Thanks for having me.
00:30:50So just that I wanted to see for her.
00:30:53I was a little bitекс.
00:31:01I was very excited.
00:31:01I wanted to see her of all this stuff.
00:31:02I've been there for her.
00:31:04And it's a lovely way.
00:31:05I like her of course.
00:31:05I was going to see her because she was struck by her phone.
00:31:06And I saw her as well.
00:31:06I saw her and I saw her in her chair.
00:31:06But I can't do that.
00:31:09And I saw her face to open this, but I thought she was very sweet because everything was my word.
00:31:09But I saw her face to her face.
00:31:10I saw her face to her face.
00:31:11I thought I saw the face, but I saw her face.
00:31:40She got a notice saying that the band needed to be moved, so she went and she pleaded with
00:31:45them to please let her have another day, which they did, and actually I spoke to the manager
00:31:54or assistant manager at the Chateau Victoria and she was very nice and she was very understanding
00:32:01and she gave me the feeling that she felt very bad that Emma had even received a notice that she
00:32:09had to move.
00:32:19All right.
00:33:21I was surprised that Emma made those what I considered unusual purchases at 7-11 for her because I did
00:33:29discover that she had money in her bank account so I couldn't begin to fathom why she would get a
00:33:34prepaid credit card.
01:00:34Her hair is loose and wild. I had never seen her hair like that. She looked nervous. She
01:00:44looked distraught, distressed, scared. And again, I mean, this is just a short piece
01:00:50of footage, but I got a very, very bad feel from watching that footage.
01:01:26I also remember that she had come in the day before. She came in asking about her cell
01:01:35phones. Before those two nights, I had never seen her at all. The first day that she came
01:01:45in inquiring about the cell phones, she seemed pretty normal for the most part. But the second
01:01:54night, she seemed a little bit frantic. She was looking around the store. She wasn't
01:02:06wearing any shoes. She just had socks on.
01:02:31I didn't really happen to notice that, you know, there's anything too significant by
01:02:36looking her in the eyes. She had issues looking at me directly.
01:03:12She was looking at me directly.
01:03:13She was watching her face. She was looking at me. And I was looking at her face. She
01:03:43That's why I phoned, because I was worried, because I said, hey, that girl was in my car.
01:03:52Bob, the taxi driver who had given Emma a ride, literally around the block in Victoria,
01:04:00he got in touch with me once he knew, realized that the young woman he had given a ride to
01:04:07was in fact Emma, the woman who was missing.
01:04:10So he got in touch with me, and we met for a coffee, and we talked.
01:04:17He had a little bit of startling information.
01:04:20He said that she got in the taxi.
01:04:24I was actually parked illegally on the corner of Courtney and Douglas Street, 800 block of Douglas Street.
01:04:39She was standing really confused by the car, and then she got in.
01:04:46She walked over, and she basically told me she wanted to go to the airport.
01:04:52And I looked at the time, and it was kind of an odd time to be going to the airport,
01:04:56so I asked her where she was flying to, and she says, I don't know.
01:05:00She didn't have no luggage or anything.
01:05:02That's another thing that threw a flag at me.
01:05:06She just basically had her, I think it was whatever, she kept her wallet and that in.
01:05:12And I said, you know how much it costs to go to the airport?
01:05:15And she said, no, and I said, it was around $60.
01:05:17And she said, oh, that's way too much.
01:05:19Which didn't make sense, because she had money in her bank account.
01:05:23She could easily afford to.
01:05:28So what she ended up doing was asking Bob to just drive around the block and come back and drop
01:05:35her at the exact same spot.
01:05:39Like, rather than just get out wherever they were, she wanted him to drive around and come back
01:05:45and drop her exactly where he had picked her up, which was a little bit strange.
01:05:52So I took her right back to where I picked her up.
01:06:01I went about three blocks.
01:06:02It was only around a $7 taxi ride.
01:06:08He also said that she asked if she could just sit in the car for a little while,
01:06:13almost as if she was afraid to get out.
01:06:16I don't know what she was afraid of.
01:06:18There are a lot of things like that that make me wonder if she was afraid of a person.
01:06:24Just peering out at the 7-Eleven and coming back in and checking
01:06:29and then not wanting to get out of the taxi.
01:06:39And at one point, she was really upset by the sound coming out of the radio.
01:06:45And I don't remember if it was like a public radio station or if it was his dispatch radio,
01:06:51but she was stressed over the noise that was coming out of one of those radios,
01:06:59which was also a little bit odd.
01:07:06She, to me, she looked like totally confused and like she wasn't there, like she was high on something maybe.
01:07:16I'm not a doctor, so I can't tell, but it wasn't the same girl because I talked to her at
01:07:22the Redfish Bluefish a couple times.
01:07:25During our, during our conversation over coffee, Bob ended up telling me that he knew Emma from around the city
01:07:33and that he knew her from Redfish Bluefish, the seasonal restaurant where she worked.
01:07:39So he recognized her.
01:07:45I believe that his comment was, she didn't look like the same woman.
01:07:55That's where we, we noticed her because she was always feeding the seagulls, not the crows.
01:08:08When she was on a break, I guess, she would sit on a bench not too far from the restaurant
01:08:14and she would feed the birds and Bob remembered this.
01:08:19And it wasn't the first time that someone had told me that they had seen Emma feeding birds,
01:08:23not just in that location.
01:08:25She was just known for feeding birds.
01:08:37Today is Friday, July 15th, and Emma has a very special friend with her.
01:08:47Emma, if you come a little bit closer, stay there and I'll try to focus in to show that,
01:08:53just a minute, Matthew, that Emma has a pet squirrel and the squirrels decided that he
01:09:00likes living in Emma's shirt, sort of like a mini hammock for him, and he's in there having
01:09:09his breakfast.
01:09:10What's he having for breakfast, Emma?
01:09:12Peanuts and bread, and he didn't eat the lettuce there.
01:09:16No, I don't think the lettuce it is.
01:09:18But he did.
01:09:19Oh, did he eat the lettuce yesterday?
01:09:21Yep.
01:09:22And there he is.
01:09:24He's going to be a bit shy.
01:09:26Oh, he is so cute, Emma.
01:09:28Good morning, Emma.
01:09:30Good morning.
01:09:30Reading about these sightings, a scary picture began to form for me.
01:09:37I mean, I was becoming aware of things that were more than unnerving, but the descriptions
01:09:46that I got of Emma on that day were actually very scary.
01:09:53And the picture that it painted was a scary one where I felt that she was very, very unwell
01:10:02and that she definitely needed help.
01:10:12I called the 911 dispatcher, and they're like, fire, police, ambulance.
01:10:18And I told them, like, well, I'm not really sure if it's ambulance or police.
01:10:21I kind of, like, explained briefly, like, there's a girl I know, and she doesn't seem, like,
01:10:25completely herself.
01:10:26I know I knew her from once before, but something just seemed, like, off.
01:10:30It's like someone to kind of go on and check with her, like, see if she's okay.
01:10:34And they're like, okay, like, well, like, did she ask for help?
01:10:37I'm like, well, no, but, like, she just seems sort of out of it.
01:10:40She's not wearing her shoes.
01:10:42And I said, like, yeah, we'll send, like, a police car over there to check her out, sort
01:10:46of thing.
01:10:46I'm like, okay, sounds good.
01:10:54I remember finding out that the police had spoken to Emma that night, and I remember
01:11:03finding out that it was on record that they spoke with her from 7.23 until 8 o'clock.
01:11:09And I was stunned.
01:11:14A woman looking disheveled, looking distraught, lost, bare feet, clutching her shoes, being
01:11:25interviewed by police.
01:11:27That is in direct opposition to the picture that the other story, the other narrative told.
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