00:00I'm a big musical theater kid. What is like your response to folks who just like
00:04can't get into the genre? I pity you, as Melina says, that's a line I wrote, right?
00:10You know, it's like, no, it's so frustrating, isn't it? Yeah, and you know what I'm hoping,
00:17I have theories about it, lots of theories about, especially in movies, why people can't get into
00:21it. One of them is, I think they were forced, I think people recoil from the idea that people
00:27are going to express love to each other in a song. You know, it just seems too icky in some
00:33way,
00:34you know? And also, I think often, when they're not done well, it feels like everything stops for
00:40a song. It's like, do we have to wait for the, oh God, here comes another, you know, Diego's character
00:44at one point says, you know, Melina says she sings and he says, oh no, you know, and things like
00:49that,
00:50which is the way I think they feel. But I'm hoping that as you, if you take the ride, if
00:56you get over
00:56that hurdle and you take the ride, and then you start to see that, my God, the kiss of the
01:03Spider-Woman number is actually amplifying the lovemaking that's happening between these
01:09two people, that you understand that, oh no, it can actually lift everything. There's a thrill to it,
01:15you know? And there's stuff going on even while people are singing.
01:19Listen, I think that musicals are one of the most hated upon genres. No, because in essence,
01:26people think that they're very surface level, right? But I think that musicals are incredibly
01:31subversive because they do entertain you. But the messaging and themes of a lot of musicals are
01:36actually quite, like, powerful. If you look at the singing in the rain, not singing in the rain,
01:41if you look at The Sound of Music, The Sound of Music is literally, like, is the overthrow of the
01:47Nazi regime, right? If you look at Kander and Ebbs' other work, it, like, maybe this time is one of
01:54the
01:54most heart-wrenching songs that you can ever hear. But the beauty of our film is that you get to
01:59experience two things at the same time. You get a serious drama and you get these calm, fun,
02:06musical numbers to, like, rip you away from the horrors of the world because both things have to
02:11exist. Otherwise, we're going to be depressed.
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