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00:03Connor. Yes. We hear you love languages and accents. Other than Russian, what's your favorite?
00:10Ooh, I'm kind of always switching between languages. Right now, I really want to learn
00:16Spanish. I'm from West Texas, so I've always heard Spanish. And living in LA, there's Spanish
00:21everywhere. So it doesn't feel very, like, exotic to me because I've heard it my whole life. But
00:28I think it's sexy. Spanish is muy sexy. Yes, I think Colombian Spanish, I think, is the
00:36sexiest language there is. I like the traditional Spain Spanish. Spain Spanish. Vamos a la playa
00:41de Barcelona. Barcelona. Con Javier Baedén. Yeah. In Vanela Vicruz. Ana de Armas. Ana de Armas.
00:50She's Cuban, right? She's Cuban. Okay. Pretty girl. Okay. This year marks 20 years since
00:55Brokeback Mountain. Are there any MM romance movies, shows, or books that have really stuck
01:00with you, either growing up or recently? Well, I love Brokeback Mountain. It was one of the first
01:04things that you told me. Yeah. Yeah. I love, um, Keith Ledger plays Ennis. I still think it's
01:10his best work. I think that was one of the first pivotal ones when you have two leading
01:14men, um, take on, you know, gay cowboys. It's pretty bold. But then, you know, you have Call
01:20Me By Your Name, um, Moonlight, I think with Barry Jenkins saying, bringing the art house
01:25to the hood is what he said. That was already just a beautiful juxtaposition. And then having,
01:32you know, he said he wanted to redefine masculinity with that movie, which I thought was so cool.
01:36Yeah. Call Me By Your Name, I think was like pretty revolutionary. Yeah. Yeah. I was in high
01:41school at that time. And I remember that being the first thing, um, that felt like it was really
01:46a part of the cultural zeitgeist. Um, and it also handled like, it also handled queer stories
01:52in a really cool way where it was so under the surface and it made it so human, you know,
01:59um, which I think also was kind of like a moonlight scenario where we're taking these people in
02:04such a specific time and place and, um, like letting them explore love. Right. What does
02:10smut mean to you? I'm going to try to make an acronym. Sexy. This is going to be in relation
02:19to, um, to, uh, and to, uh. Amber Nice. Um, sexy. Magic. Um, universe. T, T, T, T, T, T,
02:33T, T, T, T, T
02:38I have no idea. What did I say?
02:41sexy magic universe um titillating yeah yeah we'll do that titillating oh you very publicly
02:52shot your shot for night wang uh which was extremely fun to watch have you been a dc fan
02:59and what is it like to see fans instantly rally behind you especially the ones that say you have
03:03the face the talent and the butt i will be completely honest i when i saw like some fan
03:10art of you as nightwing i was like blown away whoa like i i mean you never know if that's
03:17going to
03:17come to fruition or not but yeah i see like someone did you in the comic book style i was
03:22like i see it
03:23right away wow yeah i would i would love to play him i love dc i love um i loved
03:30all like comic books
03:33that were true to the source material um and i think you know there are a lot of good filmmakers
03:41who like bring their own style to these you know beloved um um comics that i think it would be
03:48really great to work with them you know i'm not fully set on nightwing you know i'm open to other
03:52things um did you always want to be in like did is superheroes no always something that's been like
04:00i absolutely not it's just it's when really good filmmaker it's it's filmmaker driven so when like
04:06a guy like james gunn um or matt reeves you know comes to comics it i think that's what draws
04:13me
04:13um and and i heard james gunn is doing the the teen titans i know there's yeah but yeah james
04:21gunn
04:22he's in love with you true or false hudson is more like ilia in real life and connor is more
04:27like
04:27shane i think me and you are both like rose and i'm like svetlana i just said me and you
04:34are both
04:35like rose but i'm just i'm just parting ways that's so svetlana for you to say um i don't know
04:42i mean
04:43maybe i do feel like ilia i don't know i think that um i i'm i'm too sensitive or outwardly
04:51sensitive or don't have a lot of shame around emotion to be ilia i could be a little cocky
04:55like ilia yeah but beyond that it's like i think shane and ilia sort of share us you know a
05:03soulfulness
05:03that's kind of buried under all these you know walls and kind of um masks but i think i think
05:11underneath that what we both relate with both of them is you know the the heart and and their soul
05:17after wrapping heated rivalry you two got matching tattoos that say sex sales and if true how did
05:23that happen um i did i have a reason for coming up to vancouver i just want to come see
05:28yeah come
05:29hang out am i not good enough right come on yeah i just i don't know why for a second
05:33i was like
05:33i have something to do up there i have nothing to do in vancouver i was there so yeah i
05:39just went
05:39up to see um i just came up to see you we knew we wanted to get matching tattoos i
05:44hadn't gotten a
05:45tattoo in forever um and we were just shuffling through ideas and yeah i think you came up with
05:52sex but like we were both pitching ideas and then like one person would like them the other person
05:57wouldn't and then when you said sex sales i was like oh we were sold that's the first idea you've
06:01had
06:01that's good i think it's honestly my most well done tattoo as well so that feels good the front
06:06of my shin pull in here zoom in true or false you ate a pound of beef of ground beef
06:14a day while
06:15filming heated rivalry true um connor told me what his routine was and after i saw him in person
06:21um i asked him how he got to that size i thought he was taking illicit substances he wasn't
06:28he does it super clean sorry i mentioned illicit substances um but i have nothing to hide bring
06:34it on but he was so just like so i was like what are you eating freak i was like
06:43i'm eating
06:45and he just couldn't speak and he just kept doing that i was like i think that means ground
06:49beef um you're like that level of capability is what i need and then connor was actually the
06:55person who put me onto fiber because if you need to eat the protein you want to get you know
07:00ilia
07:01cheeks um and chests you need so much fiber just so your stomach doesn't shut down and you go into
07:08cardiac arrest and you get carried out from your your little workout on a stretcher with some you
07:14know pumped up pecs and a shut down fucking you look good digestive system it's really unfortunate if
07:19it ends that way yeah yeah i actually um i'm gonna one up this true or false i actually think
07:25that
07:25we ate more than a pound of beef yeah because a pound of beef only has i think 84 grams
07:30of protein
07:31and you need a solid 200 if you're going through size and shape so sometimes i can eat two pounds
07:37of
07:37ground beef a day plus like 10 eggs yeah and so many salads i was having so much salad because
07:42by the end i
07:43got like gained 10 pounds so like when i started shooting i was like and by the end i was
07:48like 10
07:48pounds heavier and it's because of yeah yeah you i mean you're very inspiring i'm glad that we had
07:53each other because it would have been really hard to be motivated if you know we were going back to
07:58our
07:5812 hour days and then the gym and then like going back to a residence like alone it's really it's
08:03nice
08:03that i got to be like hi son let's go to gym and we would go from a fucking 11
08:09hour day skating
08:10lesson and connor would go let's do legs and i and i looked him he's a madman that's how he
08:16has a
08:16butt he'll finish a skating lesson that takes four hours and then go legs now and i was like what
08:22are
08:22you saying i okay i knew i had a responsibility to the people he's america's ass and i i take
08:31that
08:32very seriously romance readers are famously passionate about book adaptations did you feel any
08:37pressure being bringing a beloved story to life and how did you approach making the characters
08:41your own it's good i think to go into a project accepting that you know people might be disappointed
08:49especially with something like a book where everyone already has preconceived notions they've visioned
08:53they've envisioned these characters they've drawn these characters they've gotten tattoos of these
08:57characters like the love is already there so much that ultimately someone is going to be
09:03disappointed all you can do is is read the material as much as you possibly can yeah and um and
09:11respect
09:12it show the respect show the dedication and just hope that people you know connect with it and love
09:18it and see that enthusiasm i think we both had that level of whether you want to call it nihilism
09:23or not
09:23like people might just hate this people might hate your casting and they might hate my casting
09:28um i'm not going to expect anything more and uh i'm just going to do the best i can but
09:34you have
09:34really no metric of if people are going to be warm to your your take i really think at the
09:40end of the
09:40day all you can do is be really intentional give it a hundred and fifty percent yeah just go for
09:47it you
09:47know yeah and luckily for us this worked out really freaking well
09:52so hudson we have heard rumors about a very serious multi-step korean skincare routine can
10:00you break it down for us it's not that lengthy yeah i always made fun of you for it too
10:04because
10:04i like honestly i'm just kind of jealous because you have really good skin um but i was like yeah
10:10your skin routine and then it's actually not that long it's not that long it's okay i'm going to tell
10:15you in the morning i use water to cleanse my face warm water and then i put on a glow
10:22toner but it's
10:24pretty dry it's not like i don't like when people have like dewy like if i see someone it looks
10:28like
10:28they just wore a face mask i'm like why are you out right now like go go wipe that off
10:33and then come
10:33talk to me because i won't right now um and then so my toner and then i'll put on um
10:38a serum
10:40and then sunscreen and then sometimes instead of a serum i put on
10:43a moisturizer and then my pm routine is an oil cleanser you know to get out these blackheads to
10:50get the the gunk out um and then i'll either use like a cerave normal ass cleanser or i'll use
10:57like
10:57a poor shrinking cleanser that's their new that's their new slogan survey normal ass cleanser i think
11:05that is i yeah i also and then like a poor shrink or a poor shrinking cleanser if that's my
11:10goal and then
11:11the same thing toner serum and then either a retinol or a salicylic acid and then i go to
11:17fucking sleep so i think everyone in the studio agrees that was a lot well i will also say i
11:24mean
11:25it makes sense you have flawless skin so and then when i take it off it just falls apart yeah
11:31he unhooks
11:33the clip back here in the back keeps it all up connor yes story yes do you have a favorite
11:40spicy
11:40scene from heated rivalry and a favorite from ember and ice what makes those stand out for you
11:44my favorite spicy scene from ember and ice is actually a scene where dane um is with two former
11:51lovers cassandra and elijah yep i need you to i need you to be here with me okay um dane
12:03has an
12:04interaction with uh two of his former lovers um after having been with finn for some time and uh
12:12yeah not to spoil but he he ends up realizing that what what really works for him isn't working for
12:19him
12:19anymore and it's kind of this moment of identity loss and you know what what pleases me isn't
12:25pleasing me the same i think that's really cool because it's also it's because it's cool because
12:30it's like sexy and spicy but it also is really revealing of the character and the connection and
12:35where he's at you know um and i think it's funny i think i remember dane saying something about um
12:41he's
12:41like he's like and then the next thing i did was i just had to come up with uh an
12:45excuse and then he's
12:47like he's like my friends i have bad news i have a lot from ember and ice but one is
12:53the lake scene
12:54where we kind of go in together and you kind of coax it out of me without spoiling too much
12:59i think
13:00that one's just you know a lot of times like the intimacy before intimacy i think it has more of
13:06a
13:06charge in a way that one really got me um frothing at the mouth and heated rivalry favorite intimate
13:14scene there's one that was really fun to film do you remember filming the stair step scene when we're
13:19like kissing against the glass and our lips never come apart me and you were like do people do this
13:25do people i know it's always a fun balance right of like when you're filming um separate from like
13:31the audio space when you're filming it's like how much of it is fun tv and then how much of
13:39it is like
13:40is like true sex because at the end of the day you know you do have in real life people
13:44do have those
13:45those like movie moments where you're like you know you're like yeah yeah yeah and then everyone
13:49on set was like oh yeah no we i've done that and then connor and i were like oh oh
13:54we usually fold
13:55our clothes place them down then go we're both chain naked and go sex now sex now i'm robot
14:03plug me in true or false hudson's roommates once kept a mooning tally of how many times he flashed
14:11them do you know how many times i know that you i've yeah i remember this yep it's true it
14:17was one
14:17roommate um and i i mooned him 31 times what was his reaction when you mooned him was he like
14:26hudson
14:27man her poor name was chelsea i i've talked with her and chelsea has been like you can say my
14:33name
14:33and i was like so i've since talked about this since double consent uh double consent um and uh
14:39poor chelsea would just go i think her main reaction was like oh hudson
14:46and it made me so happy where where is chelsea now and i i developed different techniques over the years
14:55um she's chilling she's got a cat that's like hanging off her walls um but i would go and i'd
15:00do like a drive-by i had all these different techniques and then she would bring like other
15:04you know romantic interests home and then they're like what's this tally up on the board and they're
15:10like oh that's how many times hudson my roommate has mooned me and they were like would you just like
15:16kind of butt crack it or would you full so i had one where i would get pants low like
15:21i would de-pants
15:22and she would be unassuming like maybe on her phone on the couch and i would run by and jump
15:28in
15:28the air so i was like a like like a like a literal moon a literal moon but in fast
15:33motion sometimes i
15:35would just do the like oh drop something before we leave bend and i'm right there gotcha oh god
15:43yes no they they got very athletic but we need to clarify if you were going to moon someone
15:48yeah a close friend chelsea is still my make it make it known that this is okay yep she got
15:54a
15:54who do not moon people you don't know in places it's not okay hudson as an asian actor leading such
16:02a hugely popular queer romance what kind of stories or roles are you excited for more people to see you
16:07and going forward um yeah i i want to i want to represent my my wajins out there you know
16:16um i've
16:17been declared do you know about this i'm declared the i think princess or prince of wajia
16:25me i mean i i sign off on it okay i think you he's the final stamp off guy for
16:31this
16:31so uh yeah i'm the i'm the ambassador of wajia as a fully as a completely caucasian yes but as
16:40as
16:41this um little wajian i am i hope to just do roles that aren't always charged with you know i'm
16:50happy to
16:51do roles that are you know race has something to to play in there but also i just want to
16:55be an actor
16:56and a lot of times i just want to play parts where it's like i'm i'm just there and we
17:02don't need to
17:02go in my backstory or whatever it's just you know i'm playing with any other uh non person of color
17:10would play as well you know you're a person you want to be treated i'm a person love it baby
17:15on both
17:16heated rivalry and ember and ice you worked with an intimacy coordinator um why do you think that role
17:22matters on projects like this was there anything about the process that you think would surprise
17:26people wow i mean i think it's so um yeah that's a yeah that question is i mean it's so
17:33important i mean
17:35you you literally can't do things without that role um the thing that i think would shock people about
17:43the role of intimacy coordinating is it's not just about and this is what i learned from chayla
17:49originally and then also jamie doing this it's not just about the actual safety the boundaries
17:55monitoring what's going on what that looks like making sure everyone's okay there's also actually
18:01a conjunction of an artistic edge where you are like jamie with this you know was also the voice
18:09that was reminding us this is how long it's been since this happened you know you need to i need
18:14to
18:14hear that shiver or that i need to hear those um i need to hear that feeling through your wings
18:21i need to
18:21see that come about i need to feel that pleasure in this way so it's not always technical even though
18:27that's what i feel like is brought up a lot there is also an artistic sensibility to that job and
18:32that really promotes that conversation absolutely bring in the first ginger ale this is so fun
18:40we have canada dry we have schweps we have can you can someone give me a rundown of the brands
18:46no
18:46you're gonna try it and we're gonna go i don't i've only named two from memory well how about this
18:50i'll hold it so we don't we don't give away anything yep that's my hudson that's my hudson
19:03that's not canada dry this is some shitty american ginger ale this is like schweps or like
19:11um yeah that's my guess it you said it's not canada dry why is it not canada dry yeah canada
19:17dry has
19:17got more ginger in it and more bubble in it it's just subtle ginger yeah go ahead and should be
19:24deep
19:24blindfolded
19:28we got you where is this imported from this this is this is no no way it says it says
19:37from frisco tex
19:39nope i don't i don't this is it changed it changed bring in ginger ale number two that is so
19:48embarrassing thank you so much this one was that one was canada dry what is this one i'm good
19:58um num num um you're my baby drink more okay this is cough syrup this is
20:09this is yellow snow what is this a pissy pineapple but that's the brand hudson
20:18i have to guess the brand
20:20that bye yeah this is schweps okay this one is schweps
20:28i am so happy that i'm not the one tasting
20:33these because if i was getting them wrong i'd feel like an idiot no i'm kidding
20:40stupid no you're not i mean they they really set you up give me another one
20:45do you have more bring me bring in how many more bring in the last to me
20:53oh this one's a hard one thank you oh no
21:08that's um that's fever tree ginger um um beer hudson oh but what what what there's a there's a
21:21secondary flavor
21:26do you want a smell test too you want to do like no it's just ginger no but do like
21:30an aromatics test
21:34go full som vibes
21:37do you smell that oh it's hard to it's hard to smell it's fucking ginger pear
21:43fucking it's ginger yeah i'm gonna be honest he would never be able to under you can't taste that
21:49flavor at all
21:49let's see what blood orange good job you can't taste that at all you put food coloring in you
21:56didn't put no blood orange in there i will say i kind of like this one though that one's nice
22:01i like all of them but i guess the brand did i not you killed it when did you first
22:06realize you
22:07clicked and what are some of your favorite memories from working together um i would say our first
22:13facetime outside of a chemistry read because at that point i was always shane he was always
22:18ilia but then when we first met over facetime before we went to toronto um we had so many like
22:26so much overlap of movies we liked actors we liked um art we liked and similar approaches to how
22:32we you know like to perform um that i immediately knew i think we clicked there and i think that's
22:39saying a lot because i think some of our our interests can be pretty niche the fact that there
22:43is overlap is amazing yeah and favorite memories i would say all our laughs on set being in muskoka
22:52um was really beautiful there was a lot of like lounging around um you know it was just great my
23:00favorite memories of working with you are also the laughs what's what's like an inside joke that we
23:05just died over the whole time um we had a storm the set that was also with oh yeah i
23:12would always be
23:13like storm bus if we couldn't afford extras our idea was we would just like do like a cattle call
23:20we used to joke that like we um because we would have like airport scenes and stuff where there
23:25would be like you know for an airport you need like you need a bunch of people and we'd have
23:29like
23:29five people and i just imagined um i imagined jacob being like being like costume get up there and
23:36everyone's like taking off their mics and he's like storm the set opening the garage and just like
23:42opening it up to the public how does it feel to accidentally launch a workout movement
23:49i can't i honestly still cannot believe that that was someone's takeaway from this you know i like
23:56i think i look a little too shabby i'm i'm in the process of gaining weight you know yeah i
24:01was when
24:02you look you look freaking fantastic well bring it back to my spanish but just got out here
24:13um yeah i people people like our bodies let's just be honest about it people you know i care about
24:21my health i care about my fitness as do you um honestly watching the show is making us work out
24:27even more yeah so what drew you to doing a fae romantic story and what was it about the script
24:33that hooked you for me it was exploring sensuality with with your voice you know that's the only
24:40tool you have and it kind of scared me a little bit and you know that there it was a
24:45really fun
24:46way to explore yourself it was fun it was actually fun and you know it's very demanding and it's well
24:51written i think in the booth the term winged hemingway came up you know fantastical hemingway
25:02because there was like war there's like this romance that's forbidden and it seems doomed uh in a lot
25:09of ways um and that was way heavier than i thought you know this would look like and it was
25:16really
25:16rewarding the story just moves really well too um it was just written really well uh as someone who
25:25you know is not a big reader i think something like this would be really appealing to me um just
25:31the way it it cycles through the feelings it cycles through the years and point of view yeah yeah i
25:36just
25:36think it's really like almost physically well done why do you think mm romance resonates so strongly
25:42with women right now yeah we've we've both talked about this and kind of been intrigued by it um
25:50there's so many reasons there's so many reasons and then even just women you know there are straight
25:55women there are trans women there are um gay women like queer women it's it's um well that feels like
26:02a
26:02giant term to be like i know exactly why um you know there's like the element of you can live
26:09vicariously
26:09and you can feel safe um like with women this is just one opinion that i had never even considered
26:16or thought of um that i saw that i think you're alluding to which is if you are female um
26:21and you
26:22are you are taken out of the equation there's and you're you're there's a spectatorship to that
26:31there's like a there's a certain amount of separation that allows for safety you know like especially women
26:38um historically being put into a box in a certain way especially when it comes to sex and pleasure
26:44it feels like a nice separation to see sexuality and romance be lived out without um right female
26:51dynamic being yeah i i heard i heard someone online say a woman say that like when you see like
26:57a hetero
26:57um couple you know you default to like relating with or forced to sort of relate with the woman character
27:04um and then that comes with a lot of restriction and two and like imagination a lot of writers you
27:10know are writing very conventionally um which means a lot of outdated tropes um old archetypes
27:16and i think you know with getting to watch two men it's like they can kind of relate with this
27:21person in one moment they're empathetic to this person they're not forced into a box of here this
27:25is your person to relate with at the end of the day though we're both men i have no idea
27:31what it's like
27:31to be a woman um yeah and so y'all let us know yeah y'all tell us i think
27:38me because i would just be
27:41i'd be drinking i'd be somewhere i'd be like under a table yeah asleep naked but i will say you
27:48you're
27:49really freaking athletic and you're really strong and you know how to fight so if it came down to like
27:55a wrestling match between you and leather face freddy krueger i think you're taking the cake my boy
28:02i'm winning okay snack time me 100 yeah you have a little you have a tiny bit more reverence than
28:13i do um if something is overly serious i cannot help but laugh because i just become really like oh
28:20i
28:20become really aware of how do you do that kind of it's not that you left and now now i'm
28:27gonna leave
28:29connor will do the like the like it's like so serious he kind of gets a little take and then
28:34and i can't do his laugh do i do that do i do do i do a polly pocket hand
28:42that's gonna accept myself this is what we're rocking this we're rocking it i accept myself
28:48me oh yeah i'm i'm dirty you're like you're pretty clean i'd eat anything off the ground no
28:58not me online more than i yeah well i just love youtube i love the little like
29:03video essay on this movie essay on this little actor have you learned this about genghis khan and
29:10i'm like wow there's so much to know nerd are these book talk trivia things heaven eats ass i don't
29:18know
29:18yeah heaven eats ass is that it really what is it happily ever after yeah okay
29:28okay this one's harder the break and the cake the what the rake and the cake well
29:35you break up some some people together and then you ass yeah are these all going to be ass related
29:43they are for me the grumpy sunshine trip like the rake and the cake like oh right right
29:49oh i like i like that i like those i like those ones yeah i like the grump why tubes
29:55why is this a love
29:58triangle thing um ooh threesome it scares me a little foot in both jars of peanut butter if you
30:04know what i mean don't make me nervous on twitter we're going to react to some tweets you don't scare
30:09me connor's story you need to stop your face too smiley your ass too fat your line delivery too good
30:16they'll kill you you really i mean you end it on delivery too good yeah you i i'm cool with
30:21that i feel
30:22good um i i whenever we read tweets i don't know if i'm supposed to like thank you or if
30:28i'm supposed
30:29to like yeah genuinely be like whoa i guess all of it kind of hudson williams's back dimples
30:37that's it that's the tweet oh i didn't realize i had these little back dimples but then i i saw
30:44the
30:44receipts and i saw my dimpled cheek back thing and uh we were all seeing it yeah i was i
30:52was seeing
30:53it damn for real i love whatever is wrong with y'all my cynthia and ariana
31:04fine i'm invested in heated rivalry not because of their giant bouncy bullets but because it's a true
31:12yearner i'm a sucker for a good romance the yearning is is the thing i think that's that's
31:17probably the sexiest part for people honestly you want to know how we got these bodies you're
31:21enough your ass gets fat despite all the memes i have enjoyed people seeing that physical intimacy
31:28isn't just spice on top of the romance but a vehicle to explore relationship dynamics and character and
31:34also physical and emotional intimacy are different but connected things jacob talks about this and that
31:39was one of the first things i think he brought to us um to try and explain his vision which
31:46was you
31:47know when you read the scripts when you read the pages it can sound very sex heavy but to know
31:51that
31:51the sex really is just the foundation of their relationship and how they connect um yeah i think that
31:59is i think that i think that's kind of you know for the first years of their life that's how
32:04they
32:04communicate that's where their relationship builds and you know that's not usually how sex is used
32:09in media yep meteor i need hudson williams to know that so many people imagine draw right and read
32:16about him getting pregnant including me is that crazy oh he knows and even comments on yeah mara
32:24key to rival updates pointing this out to me i know when i learned that about it's crazy i was
32:29like
32:29whatever floats your boat you know um yeah i mean i i think that's like i think that's in the
32:35deep fanfic
32:36side yeah i don't understand it but i'm like you know what you freaks you gung-ho you go get
32:43it
32:43you know if you can go get fictional me pregnant fictional me knock him up this is another one about
32:52my butt again y'all aren't ready for this one connor's story deserves a-o-t-y what's a-o
32:58-t-y mean
33:00connor's story ass of the i don't like this tweet it should be ass of the century hey whoa
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