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Robert A. Monroe era un uomo d'affari americano della Virginia.
Nel 1958, inizia a sperimentare ciò che ha descritto come 'fuori dal corpo', un termine che sarà diffuso dalla pubblicazione del suo primo libro nel 1971 'Viaggi Fuori dal Corpo'.
Il suo lavoro e la ricerca sugli stati alterati di coscienza che ha portato allo sviluppo di un metodo per la sincronizzazione emisferica con l'uso di suoni, conosciuta con il nome di Hemi-Sync.
Nel 1974 ha fondato l'Istituto Monroe, una organizzazione non-profit dedicata all'esplorazione della coscienza umana.
Sito ufficiale: http://www.monroeinstitute.org/robert-monroe/
Nel 1958, inizia a sperimentare ciò che ha descritto come 'fuori dal corpo', un termine che sarà diffuso dalla pubblicazione del suo primo libro nel 1971 'Viaggi Fuori dal Corpo'.
Il suo lavoro e la ricerca sugli stati alterati di coscienza che ha portato allo sviluppo di un metodo per la sincronizzazione emisferica con l'uso di suoni, conosciuta con il nome di Hemi-Sync.
Nel 1974 ha fondato l'Istituto Monroe, una organizzazione non-profit dedicata all'esplorazione della coscienza umana.
Sito ufficiale: http://www.monroeinstitute.org/robert-monroe/
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00:04It was 32 years ago that I first got into this field.
00:12How did I get into this field?
00:15By accident, sort of like the monkey who fell out of the tree.
00:21My company, which I had at the time, was involved up until 1956 in very extensive network radio programs,
00:36which means dramatic programs for radio nationwide and overseas.
00:43And in 1956 we had the choice of whether we converted all the way into television.
00:52And so we had started to do so until we discovered a very interesting thing.
00:58Now we had been doing these radio programs for many years.
01:02And what we discovered was that it was like seeing a movie all over again.
01:11This is where we came in because we were taking exactly the same thing that we had done eight to
01:18ten years earlier
01:19and putting a picture to it.
01:21It was nothing more to us than radio with a picture.
01:26So we did not think that we wanted to go through this all over again.
01:30There must be something better to do than to go into television.
01:34And we had already two quiz shows in television and found that this was nice,
01:40but there must be something better.
01:44So as the head of the company and knowing in American language we have something that says you pass the
01:53buck.
01:54The buck ends with the president of the company, the responsibility, as does the authority.
02:01So I decided we would try something else.
02:05And being very professional in sound we naturally began to think of some way to use sound as a new
02:15means of a new direction for our company.
02:20And what we first came up with and started conducting in our research and development division of our company was
02:29how to help people learn while they are asleep.
02:36Very interesting parable.
02:37All the way back in 1956 we started conducting studies how to do this.
02:44And the first problem was how to get people to sleep.
02:48Because you can't take a subject and say now go to sleep.
02:52You have to and you do not want to give them chemicals or drugs to go to sleep because that
02:58won't serve the purpose.
03:00So we began to use sound to help people to get to sleep.
03:05And that's how we first began to get into the technology of what we have since become.
03:13But along the way a very interesting thing took place.
03:19In that research pattern I was the chief subject because I demanded it because I was very curious.
03:27So as the chief subject in all of these patterns of finding ways to help people go to sleep by
03:34sound use evidently something I absorbed something.
03:41Because in 1958 then I had this great frightening terrifying change take place in my life.
03:52And I have written about this as you know in several books.
03:55And that's very I guess common knowledge even throughout the world because the books have been translated into various languages.
04:03But simply put at that time I began to experience moving out of my body.
04:09And that was the final thing of something that had begun a year at least or more before that time.
04:24I began to have quote dreams about and I was an airplane pilot so you can understand how that would
04:32take place.
04:33I began to have dreams about taxiing to the runway on an airport and getting the plane off the ground.
04:41And once I got it off the ground that I would look up and here are all these wires.
04:46It was as if one were flying down the street and there were all these power lines overhead and telephone
04:51lines and you couldn't find a hole to get out of it.
04:54And that dream had gone on a recurring dream for at least a year.
05:01And then shortly before this big thing took place in 58 I also began to experience a funny kind of
05:10vibration.
05:12And I went to my it was as if my body were shaking but there was no feeling of shaking.
05:17It was just internal.
05:20And I went hurrying to my favorite doctor and he examined me and says oh you are working too hard.
05:27You are stressed feel good there's nothing wrong with you go take a pill and relax or something.
05:34Well not necessarily being a pill taker that did not work too well.
05:38But any event after many times like 25 or 30 more times of experiencing this vibration.
05:47I thought well and fighting to get out of it is the point I just pull myself away from this
05:52vibration.
05:54The next step was well this will never get anywhere I'm too frightened about it.
06:00If it's going to kill me let it kill me.
06:03So with that in mind one particular afternoon when I was lying down I said alright fine the vibration came.
06:13If it's going to kill me let it kill me.
06:15So I waited and waited and waited and after a while after about five minutes it faded away and I
06:20was still alive.
06:21So I thought ha now I know it won't kill me so I'm on safe ground.
06:26So after that I began to simply let it happen and wait that five minutes so I could do something.
06:33And on this one famous night as were in 1958 I was lying in bed on a Friday night waiting
06:43for this vibration to end so I could go to sleep.
06:46And as I was lying there thinking about what I was going to do the next day while this vibration
06:53got through doing what it was supposed to do.
06:56I was thinking how nice Saturday morning was going to be because we had had what we call a cold
07:02front come through.
07:03And there would be strong northwest winds and there would be great thermal action.
07:08So being much into sail planes and gliders at that time the soaring was going to be tremendous.
07:14And as a result this was my sense of great joy and anticipation as I was waiting for this vibration
07:23to end.
07:24And as I waited and waited and thought how nice this is going to be suddenly I felt something bumping
07:32against my shoulder.
07:34And that of course is part of the history when I discovered that what I was bumping against was the
07:42ceiling of my bedroom.
07:44And that bumping turned around and I did not know where I was until I saw this funny sort of
07:51a fountain coming out of what I thought was the floor.
07:55And I thought where am I this is a funny kind of dream.
07:58And I looked more closely and I thought there is something terribly wrong.
08:02This is not a fountain this is the chandelier.
08:05The light fixture coming out of the ceiling.
08:07So I looked around and sure enough down there in the bed below me was my wife lying in bed
08:14and beside it was a man in bed.
08:16And I said what kind of dream is this this is a strange dream who who would I think of
08:22who would be in bed with my wife.
08:24And I said I can't resist finding out.
08:27So I moved a little closer and then this great shock came over me because the person in bed with
08:34my wife was me.
08:36And then the fright came the terror what am I doing am I dying let me get back quick something.
08:42So I went through the air like this swimming through the air to get back to the body pang got
08:47back in the body.
08:48That was the first time that I in turn found out.
08:53And then very quickly I sat up and everything was quiet.
08:55I was I have my heart was racing because I was excited but everything else was fine.
09:01My wife's asleep quiet nothing no problem.
09:04So that is exactly how it began all the way back in 1958.
09:11It took many visits to a doctor to find out that I did not have a brain tumor.
09:20It took reassurances from a very well known psychiatrist friend who said I can certify that you're sane Bob.
09:32I said well what's the matter with me and what's this thing that's happening to me.
09:35And he said well I think that you are doing what is known as conscious dreaming.
09:43And I looked at him and I said what what's conscious dreaming.
09:47He says I don't know I just made it up.
09:50And I said thank you thank you.
09:53And I then got together with my psychologist friend and I said Brad what do I do about this thing.
10:02He says oh that's easy.
10:04I says what.
10:05He says they do it in India all the time.
10:07They know all about it in India.
10:09And I said well what should I do then.
10:13He says well I would think you should go to India and study under a guru and live in an
10:20ashram until you know all about it.
10:22And I said well how long would that take.
10:26And he said oh probably ten or twenty years.
10:29And I said ten or twenty years.
10:31What about my business.
10:33What about my mortgaged house.
10:35What about my wife and my two children.
10:37He says oh this is important.
10:40And I looked at him very in the face and I said Brad.
10:45If this were you.
10:47What would you do.
10:48And he looked at me with this.
10:50And I said.
10:51He says Robert.
10:52He says it's not happening to me.
10:54It's happening to you.
10:56And he waved goodbye.
10:59So that was the response of that beginning.
11:04And being of a stubborn variety.
11:07And knowing that I did not have a brain tumor.
11:09Knowing that physically I was alright.
11:11And the two people that I trusted most in the mental health field.
11:17Knew me so well that they said oh you have no mental problem.
11:20What does one do.
11:23So the natural response that I had in my way of thinking.
11:28Being a western mind.
11:30I couldn't see going to India.
11:33And spending ten years living in an ashram.
11:36That would not be very comfortable for me.
11:38And also that's not the way I think.
11:40I'm a western mind.
11:42So being very stubborn.
11:43What I did is to turn around.
11:46And establish a research and development division in my company.
11:51Taking the one that we had.
11:52And moved it over in this other direction.
11:55To find out what's happening to me.
11:56Or find out something.
11:58So that I in turn could have some answers for me.
12:03So it was a very selfish motivation.
12:05And in the beginning.
12:06It was nothing noble.
12:08Or wanting to help the world or humankind.
12:11Not that at all.
12:12I needed the help.
12:14I had a company.
12:15That could spend R and D funds.
12:18To do this.
12:19And that's how it began.
12:21And a footnote.
12:24Bear in mind.
12:25That it took a full year.
12:28After this first took place.
12:30For me.
12:32To finally come to the conclusion.
12:35That this was real.
12:36That it was not a dream.
12:38That it was not an hallucination.
12:40That it actually took place.
12:41Because my left brain.
12:43My intellect.
12:44My analytical part of me.
12:47Had to be knowing this.
12:49Not believing it.
12:50And it took.
12:51Not a great adventure.
12:54Or a great something that took place.
12:56It was an accumulation of one verification after another.
13:00Again and again and again.
13:02And after a while.
13:03I said.
13:04My self.
13:05My brain.
13:06My.
13:07My.
13:08Left brain.
13:09My total self.
13:10Had to say.
13:10Yes.
13:11This is real.
13:12There's too much evidence.
13:13Never mind the world.
13:14But for me.
13:15And that's how I began.
13:18But.
13:19After.
13:21You.
13:21Began this.
13:23This investigation.
13:25Into your own experiences.
13:27Out of your own.
13:28Need to understand what was happening.
13:30Out of that.
13:31Came.
13:32Hemisync.
13:33Could you tell us.
13:35How the.
13:37The information.
13:38About these.
13:39The influence of these.
13:41Sound patterns.
13:42With the kind of experience.
13:44That you were researching.
13:45How did that connection get made for you.
13:48Well.
13:49Again.
13:50First and foremost.
13:51I was the prime subject.
13:53That.
13:53We're going all the way back to.
13:56When.
13:57I.
13:58Was in New York.
13:59And had offices in New York.
14:01And had a house in Westchester County.
14:03And I secretly put a laboratory.
14:06On our property in Westchester.
14:09Because.
14:10New York somehow felt too noisy.
14:12So I.
14:13We had this R&D program.
14:15And built into.
14:17Uh.
14:17Twenty-five acre.
14:19Place up in.
14:20Westchester County.
14:21Uh.
14:23It started very simply.
14:25We already knew.
14:26How to put people to sleep.
14:28So.
14:29Then it began.
14:30Uh.
14:31To say.
14:31Well.
14:31What.
14:32Is this.
14:33And how are we doing this.
14:34And we started with a very.
14:37Sound.
14:37Scientific base.
14:39Of using.
14:42Uh.
14:43Sine waves.
14:43That replicated.
14:45The brain waves in the human mind.
14:47The human brain.
14:49To in.
14:49Turn.
14:50Induce this sleep.
14:51Well.
14:52It didn't take much more.
14:53Pattern.
14:55Searching.
14:55To determine.
14:57That.
14:58If we.
14:59Adjusted those.
15:00Into areas.
15:01That we didn't.
15:02Had not looked at.
15:04We would begin to find something else.
15:06And sure enough.
15:07We did.
15:08And there was all the way back there.
15:09In.
15:10Nineteen sixty.
15:11That we first.
15:12Began.
15:13To use.
15:14What we.
15:15Have called in recent years.
15:17Frequency following response.
15:19And that's where.
15:21Uh.
15:21That's different.
15:22From.
15:23Hemisync.
15:24It's different from.
15:25Um.
15:26A binaural beat type.
15:27This.
15:28You can hear in open air.
15:29It doesn't require headphones.
15:31To have maximum.
15:33Ability.
15:33To listen to it.
15:35And we use that very.
15:36Very broadly.
15:37For a number of years.
15:40In terms of the.
15:42Hemisync.
15:42Process itself.
15:44Uh.
15:45The.
15:45Hemisync.
15:45Process.
15:46Didn't really take place.
15:48Until the seventies.
15:49And by that time.
15:50We had.
15:51Uh.
15:51We had moved over to.
15:53Charlottesville Virginia.
15:54And gotten into cable television.
15:56And.
15:57Uh.
15:58That was.
15:59The new thing to do.
16:01As against radio stations.
16:03And.
16:04We had.
16:04Through.
16:06An association with about.
16:07By that time.
16:08I had accumulated.
16:10About eight or nine.
16:11Different engineers.
16:11And scientists.
16:12And.
16:13Doctors.
16:14In Virginia.
16:15And.
16:15We.
16:16As a group.
16:17It was nothing.
16:17Again.
16:18Mystical.
16:19Or magical.
16:20We decided.
16:20That would be the good way.
16:21To do it.
16:22To create.
16:22A binaural beat.
16:23And that's how.
16:24Hemisync.
16:25Was born.
16:26And that is.
16:27You know how it works.
16:28I'm sure.
16:29That's by setting.
16:30One kind of signal.
16:31Say.
16:32A hundred hertz signal.
16:33In this ear.
16:34And then.
16:35A hundred and four hertz.
16:36Over here.
16:37And the differential.
16:39That four hertz.
16:40Is.
16:41Synthesized.
16:42By the mind.
16:42The brain.
16:43You can't hear it.
16:44It's too low.
16:45In frequency.
16:46To hear.
16:46But.
16:47It is very effective.
16:48To get that.
16:49Four hertz.
16:50Which is a brain wave.
16:51Frequency.
16:52Into the human mind.