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00:05ترجمة نانسي قنقر
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02:01تحرير الوصول على التكتبات أن تفعل الوصول على التكتبات.
02:03ما هو تحرير الوصول على التكتبات.
02:06أنت نهاية الدين في ني في ني فيها.
02:26إنها مباشرة.
02:27يحرير الوصول على تكتبات مفنوية.
02:28لفعل محدود للنقام الانتعام للكلمة
02:30تغريرين من المتحدث عن وحاتف مزات للنقام الانتعام
02:37إلى وكره كبيرة المتحدث عن الساقات تغذية
02:44هو الكظراء الفقه
02:46قبول في روح ايضا في الممتحدث
02:47كلما يجب أن نحضر من الممتحدث
02:49ولكنكه لا يقب الى الأحضار
02:51في التعامل يجب أن تكون في هاتف المنقام
02:53في سيفوه صدقات لإضافي
02:57ثابت المرة well that's the kind of case we were working on The precinct
03:03covers from 59th to 95th Street from 5th Avenue all the way to the East River
03:07it's like a big square and there's all kinds of high-rises
03:11so that it's very densely populated when I got transferred I had culture shock
03:15I went from the basement to penthouse in one move
03:26بسيطة
03:49Smith and Silverman.
03:50I'm the junior detective, so your two other were like,
03:53Well, kid, this is yours. Here you go!
03:55I was like , Oh shit!
03:57No one really wants a missing persons case.
04:00They're usually someone ran away, or went somewhere for the weekend they didn't tell anybody.
04:06They usually come back and the case winds up being closed.
04:10But we had to check on it!
04:13So we went over to the- to the townhouse.
04:16وكان محلول على سبيل مكان شدة أفضل 30 من المنزل
04:22سوى بثقات مستوى
04:26كانت أولاً بحديث بشكل سبيل
04:28تصليل على محلول مقررات في أدارة
04:31وقت اعترف بشكل سبيل
04:34تسرين على مستوى مباشر ملتينة في مستوى ملتينة
04:36دولة
04:38شبكة ملتينة
04:41ممتينة
04:41مع الموادينة
04:43وقتها لا نشارك فيه
04:45كان لديه مجلسان
04:46ويجب أن تكون على الكثير من المساركين
04:47أنت تصبح مجلسانا
04:48ويجب أن تكون مجلسانا
04:51فهي مضح مجلسانا
04:54صحيح فتح هناك
04:57إيران سيلvermans
04:58وقتها جيدة
05:00وليس المصاركين
05:01فتح تبث لتوبة
05:05في اليوم سوى
05:07شهدت لكثير من أنها تجمع
05:09وفي النتائج
05:10أغلبت أسفل إلى الوقت المنزل إلى قدر بسرحة ، وإرانيه كان يمكنك إرانيه فترة من تأكيد
05:16بعد أن أهلاً للحضر ، أو تأكيد الأن ، المترجم يمكنك إرانيه إلى الإرانيه وقام إرانيه ليسوا فيها
05:27وإرانيه يجب أن يتصرف إرانيه وقام إرانيه ليسوا فيها
05:45موسيقى
06:01موسيقى
06:30موسيقى
07:00اشتركوا في زبان little biton.
07:03الناس المناسبة التي تكن لم يكن من الشخص بالفعل.
07:08المناسبة للس charge في عراorton.
07:13إنها سأشعر بكثير قليل عن العورة أعتقد أنها بما الكثير من العورة.
07:16إذنها كانت جميل منها.
07:17يملكي quanto تhakى فقط أعطابين العورة عروة سلسلة.
07:18مجموعة أحيان.
07:19إنها ستكلت بزبادل عن العورة يحضرون العقار والمزارة
07:24فإنها لا يوجد المبادرين، وكما المبادرين، وكما لم يقف المال،
07:27فإنها أحبكت ترجمك فيك.
07:28وفي الواقع أديها حتياطة متعددة بالتالي، وغيرها إلى المصفل، وتتضلك تسمع على التبيع،
07:33وكانت التالي لك نصيد.
07:33والمناهب الشيء، ومنت نحن مهما أحبك سهر، وما أحبكت بك.
07:42كما تضل أدرانًا، فلها هي النظر الأبوان،
07:46فقط كما في رائعا ميزولة
07:49ميزولة
07:50سمك رائعا
07:52ممتعين لقد قلتك
07:54تكون هناك
07:55ممتعين لك
07:57سيحوك حدث
07:59أنا أرادتها
07:59كانت أين سلسل الماضي لتحدث عينيسي
08:01في تحديد
08:03أنا أعجب العلوم في حقوق
08:03وقد كانت أولاً
08:04أبداً سلسل المحلولة
08:07وأنا سلسل الماضي
08:12فأنت في شبه
08:13having a fancy Christmas party…
08:16A friend ran to the kitchen.
08:19She said the grand dame just arrived.
08:22You must meet her, everybody wants to meet her.
08:26I was introduced to her.
08:28Even though she's tiny, she's barely five-foot
08:30tall, but she's larger-than-life.
08:33She looks so glamorous to experience,
08:35the way she dresses, the way she holds herselfs.
08:39She said you must come and have tea with me.
08:42ومن ثم من المدنى
08:45ويوجد جميع ويوجد بشكل جيدة
08:47ومجرد جميع بشكل جديد
08:50من عام 17
08:52كانت تأتي بشكل رائع في راديو تي
08:55في منتجه أشخص
08:58اليوم سلوزة دوريليم
08:58التصميم بالجميع
09:03بعد قدران بإرين
09:05خلال مدفع
09:08إريني وقد وقلت بشكل من خلال
09:10Then Irene started living a very glamorous life.
09:16After her husband passed away,
09:18she started to get a little lonely in this huge mansion
09:22to entertain herself.
09:25She rented all the beautiful room to very wealthy people
09:28for people who do not want to stay at a hotel.
09:36الشياري الأصابي
09:37تعالى
09:40السبب
09:42فتمجزل
09:42شبابت
09:43المصادر المصادر
09:46على المعارضة الرجالي بتانيتها
09:48لتعرفها إلى جزيلا من المختلفة
09:50من المائماني جارن
09:52للمتابعة أود أن الإيران سيفرمان
09:55تتفضل على الأمصال حاليا
09:58بسبب سيفرمان أتلك
09:58هناك سواء إيران بخقراء
10:02واحدة سيفرمان أتطالة
10:05عن إيراني سيفرمان
10:06الأمصال إيراني جارن
10:09نجوم السيفرمان
10:11سيفرمان سيفرمان أمصال
10:18المنزل
10:44نعم بما أنه رضي الوصول والقررات
10:47أليس كما كنت يعترف هو حقاً بها
10:50وحقاً جداً
10:53ينشط إلى الإرين الجمال
10:56وكما هذه الكتابات التي تأكد عن الضبان
11:00ونخطه وكما هذارت لا بمذورك
11:03أنها لم تكن تفاعله وتريدهم
11:06قرأة أمه
11:12ويكون لديه كما رأيته
11:13يبدو كثيرا.
11:44وليس سألت نقوم بفعلها
11:45وليس سألت أنت بتزوجه عن هذا الرجل
11:52وليس سألت أنت في لوحة الجميع
11:53لأنهم سألت تهدفين من فصف ما
11:55قلت من知ك
11:58وليس سألت لنا على أن أخذ من المجتمع
12:00وأنت أجد أن نقوم برصبه
12:03للمقرارة الهوال
12:06لأننا أجد من القرارة
12:08عندما نعرف سألت من الهوال
12:09ومن أن نحن أجل هذا.
12:11هذا ليس جيد.
12:12كما يقولون أنه يوم سيكون ،
12:14بينام ، يقولون هذا الشيخ هو الرجل.
12:17نجعل نحن ندقي إليه
12:19فهذا كان لديه مجرد
12:21لأنه كانت لا يمينها
12:23ومحلتها البلاد
12:27فهذا الأبوات كانت مدمياً
12:28ليس إن فإن شخص
12:31فإن صرفي.
12:32العارقات المتكسيات
12:33ولم يكن دائمًا
12:34كانت هناك مع جمات المزحة المتحدة في مكان من الأبرياء.
12:40في مكان الحياة في المباشرة، لديه حياة المالتحة من الصحيح.
12:44ملتقافي فى مسبقاً مرة واماً بناتنامج قادمة في الانتحات النساءة.
12:51واحد Thinkنات من الأنمسكة من الأنمسكة فيها ت rook شارفتان.
12:55دوني بصف المزيد ومترجم هي بحثة برقوة
12:58لماذا يجب عليك أن تتفاوية من الأنفارة
13:01بحثة بغلاية دورة؟
13:03لا تحتاج مزيد لأنفارة
13:04بالذهاب الأنفارة
13:06كانت الأنفارة مننا أن نتفاوية من قبل
13:07أن نتفاوية سنوية حضرة
13:17بالنسبة لأنتجة من المنطقة
13:21وقدت النجون في 1B
13:23شكراً لقد قبضت تأكد في المدارين
13:28في مدارك السبب
13:28هذا كانت أشعرام الإنسان
13:31شكراً لقد اعطت في المداري
13:32شكراً لقد قد ستكون صغيرة
13:33اعتقد أن تكون هناك ساعة لقاء
13:36سوى الاجتماعين ستكون هناك
13:38سوى الاجتماعي
13:39الاجتماعي ستكون هناك
13:40المنطقة كان لأمانة
13:51شكراً لقد قد بطريقة
13:53كانت قسم مدرسة والسطنة
13:55ويهدت أيضا بمانهاتان نورساولي
13:59التي يجب أن تدعى المدرسات في مانهاتان نورس
14:04من 59th سنة إلى المدرسة من تجربة من نورساولي
14:06ومانهاتان نورساولي مدرساولي محلولة
14:11إيران فرق فيه لاتفك فيها
14:15المشاهدت أنها ستعدى 82 سنة وقتها
14:20وعلى عن المراكات قدية
14:22تنصرف requirement
14:23إنكت بريد فرصايا
14:24وحيثاً محن تزاريخ
14:26متى التهامت التجربة
14:28مؤسسامة
14:30تنظر أي مشهده
14:34إيضاً
14:34لأيضاً
14:34شكراً
14:35باشر
14:35كانت
14:36لازع
14:36لأن دعاً
14:37لعقة النتائي
14:38معكة
14:39معكة
14:39لعقة
14:40جاهل
14:40لتقمي
14:41معكة
14:41لا
14:41جاهل
14:43جاهل
14:43جاهل
14:44سنعطت البقاء.
14:45فإن فرصة يجب علينا أن يتعاب الموضوع.
14:49فإن فإن يتعاب المينة،
14:51لكن إذا كانت متخلطة الجديد،
14:54فإن تسعاده بينهم برقبار الموضوع.
15:00إذن بحق الجديد مع أرصة موضوعات تنميزة المتحدة.
15:06موضوعات التقاطية،
15:09وأنتم من فرصة موضوعات،
15:11لذلك تريد أن تصبح بموضوعات الموضوعات.
15:13اشتركوا في القرارات
15:43تون في ملاقب الأوسط نقائل زوجت من الموجودة
15:47صورتنا لعMY جارن
15:49ونحن نمت منه سيليمة التقالية
15:52الرقم يبحثين في حيث بعدة تتاكريين
16:01تواحد أحيش من ني تواحد
16:02المتشفى عن من ني تتوني
16:05واحد يا عمدينة العمل بإمكانية
16:06توجد رجابة تتوني لا تسلل
16:12وانتنى اللعينة في وقت اصدقاء في وقت ايدي وانتنى في وقت في وقت
16:17يقول أنه في جلي 6th
16:21عندما إيران سلدون مرورة بالسرعة
16:25يلقى ابن فضل
16:27مرورة ويطان
16:28على وضع 55th Street و 6th Avenue
16:31على المساعدة أن يرقى بقية من تحيطة
16:34فرق أعيدي سلدان
16:37أن يدرك إلى وقت
16:41e the detective from the preserive task force told us that they both had on their possession
16:48identification that belonged to irene silverman they were identified as kenny kimes and his
16:56mother sainte kimes in her pocketbook was ten thousand dollars in cash one question about why
17:04she had ten thousand dollars cash she said she needed a lot of cash to visit new york which
17:08لم يكن من أنني أخذ بالأسفل من الفكتب.
17:15لا يمكنني محالفل الهدف منك شديد سيدي.
17:15ولكن لدينا عاليا ويجب أن نأتي معين بالأسفل من الفكتب.
17:20ولكن هناك الكثير من السلطة مع نفس السلطة،
17:23من قبل أن أظن أننا أصبح ماني غيرين.
17:28ولكني أصبح ذلك، أخبرت أنني أقل أني أصبح تحقاعداً.
17:33أخذنا مرحلة
17:35ويحالا
17:37مرحلة
17:37أخذنا
17:38مرحلة
17:48سأخذنا
17:51كان على التعرض على ميداراً ، موجود إليه فريقاً
18:00كان لديك الإراني بدون إيراني
18:03مالا لديك سأفتر إيراني من الملاحظة
18:04صحيحًا افترحًا
18:06إومات من أمتي
18:07انت لديكم أصبح ندي قد أفترحًا
18:11تنيني ، في رجل إيراني
18:13بطرد دون إيراني
18:14فقدر أنت لديكم أفريقاً
18:17الكبير ل trou 어려 what if that was your mother how would you feel there
18:21was a glimmer of light there were tears in his eyes I remember and I thought
18:28that he would start talking to us and he was gonna fall on sword but seconds
18:34later it's like a switch went off inside of him he just became very stoic turned
18:41وانت أن أطرق مجرد وقت مجرد.
18:44عندما أصبح أصحاب ذلك،
18:48أخذت أنه سأكون أصبح مجرد ضد آخر.
18:54سانتي كيمس في الأمام التجارسيين في مجرد الترابع
18:58في الحالة إلى المجرد في سويا.
18:59ومن أبقاء التجارسيين الذين يجب أن تجارسي على مجرد
19:05تجارسيات الأمام بمجرد أيضا.
19:06but she requested an attorney
19:09and the interview was shut down
19:17so we do a background check on them
19:19see what they were arrested for
19:21in the past
19:22we saw that Kenny never had any major
19:25run-ins with the law
19:27then we looked at Sante
19:28and you couldn't believe the horrific
19:31things that they see
19:33at one point
19:34I was assigned the story
19:36of what happened here
19:39to Irene Silverman in New York
19:40and I found out that
19:42Sante Kimes was orphaned
19:45when she was younger
19:46and she sort of bounced around
19:47from house to house
19:49whether it was an orphanage
19:51or a friend of a friend
19:53she was very poor
19:55she met Kenneth Kimes Sr.
19:58in 1970
20:00he was in the construction business
20:03and owned a chain of motels
20:05they had houses in the Bahamas
20:08oceanfront property in Honolulu
20:12a house in Las Vegas
20:14they were living the high life
20:19a couple of years after they met each other
20:21she and her husband had Kenneth Kimes Jr.
20:27Sante Kimes definitely considered Kenneth her little prince
20:31but Sante would control everything that Kenneth did
20:35to the point where she decided to homeschool him
20:37not send him to school
20:40Kenny did what mommy said
20:41he
20:43mommy said to jump
20:44he jumped
20:46she knew how to manipulate things to her needs
20:51Sante was a con artist
20:53don't take me when I'm fat
20:55like
20:55she had like I think 11 different aliases
20:59listed on her arrest histories
21:03which included insurance fraud
21:05some larcenies
21:07Sante Kimes I think loved danger
21:11she liked to see how much she could get away with
21:15she claimed that her husband was an ambassador
21:20and somehow got invited to a reception
21:24being thrown for Gerald Ford
21:27there's a picture of her and Kenneth Kimes shaking
21:31President Ford's hand
21:33to this day no one knows how she got through secret service
21:38she had a way of entering a room
21:41and everybody would look over and say
21:43oh look how she's dressed
21:45oh my god look at her jewelry
21:48she must belong here
21:50another one of the things that stood out
21:53was a slavery charge back in 1985
21:58Sante Kimes would hire help from Mexico
22:01to clean her big homes
22:03she would treat them really badly
22:09she would lock maids in their rooms
22:12one of them subsequently testified at that trial
22:16that she was burned by an iron
22:21they gave her the name the dragon lady
22:25it's a different crazy
22:26is what it is
22:28she's a psychopath
22:29Sante was sentenced to five years in prison
22:34however her husband was never prosecuted for that case
22:39she served three years out of a five year term
22:46then Kenneth Kimes Sr. died in 1994
22:49of a brain aneurysm
22:53and when he died
22:55this threw Sante's life in a tailspin
22:57she was like
23:00how am I going to continue my lifestyle
23:02as long as Sante ended up on top
23:05that's all she cared about
23:08after his father's death
23:09mother and son
23:11were hooked hip to hip
23:13whatever ventures they got involved with
23:15they did it together
23:18befriending the Kimes
23:19was a very dangerous proposition
23:23people they knew
23:24seemed to disappear
23:26out of the blue
23:28one of them was David Kasdan
23:31David Kasdan was an associate
23:34of Sante and Kenneth Kimes
23:35a business partner in some sense
23:37she took out a fraudulent loan
23:40against David Kasdan's home
23:41and he gets I believe it was a coupon book
23:44for payments on a $250,000-$300,000 loan
23:47that he was totally unaware of
23:49and he went to the authorities
23:53shortly after that
23:54they found Kasdan's body
23:56in a dumpster by LAX airport
24:00but at that point
24:02the LAPD didn't have
24:04enough to arrest Sante and Kenneth Kimes
24:07for the murder of David Kasdan
24:09and at that point
24:10Sante and Kenny drove all the way across country
24:13in the stolen car
24:15so they could rent the apartment in Irene's townhouse
24:22there were discussions about
24:24whether they should be extradited to LA
24:26to face the David Kasdan murder
24:29or leave him here in New York
24:31well I got news for you
24:32if someone is killed here in New York City
24:35the case should stay here in New York City
24:37until it's totally resolved
24:39and trust me
24:40there was just a voluminous amount of work
24:43that had to be accomplished yet
24:48News Channel 4 took these exclusive pictures
24:50of the canine police dog unit
24:53and the crime scene technicians
24:54going to the basement garage
24:56where the car Kenneth Kimes drove was being held
24:59the search warrant was conducted
25:01on the green Lincoln Town car
25:04we opened up the trunk
25:06nothing just garbage
25:08everything is piled in the back seat of the car
25:11and there was a lot of shit man
25:14it took 8 hours to go through that car
25:17we recovered a box from a taser gun
25:20we found a clear liquid
25:21that was later identified as a knockout drug
25:24like a roofie
25:25we found Irene Silverman's social security card
25:28with some other papers that had Irene's name on it
25:31we recovered all kinds of wigs
25:33eavesdropping equipment
25:34sitting in the car were 15 notebooks
25:38that had notes meticulously detailing
25:42Irene's movement
25:43you know when you look at the big picture
25:46and what's going on here
25:47those are pretty telling things
25:50also in those notebooks was
25:52how to take possession of Irene's house
25:54get notary
25:55get title
25:57get deed
25:58also recovered from the car was a micro cassette
26:01with some cassette tapes
26:03and we listened to them
26:08and one of them had Sante posing
26:12as a person calling Irene
26:15saying that she won a trip to go to Las Vegas
26:17to stay at Circus Circus
26:34the whole gist of the call was to try to get Irene Silverman to divulge over the phone
26:54she was trying to get information so she could use on the deeds and the forged papers and stuff
27:06she tried every which way to get that number out of Irene
27:10and Irene was not fucking having it man
27:13well
27:14you send me whatever you have there
27:18and if I like it
27:20the idea
27:21then I'll give you my social security number
27:26with all the information that we had recovered
27:29we weren't dealing with a missing person
27:31we knew we were looking for a homicide victim
27:36I have a great reader or fortune teller
27:39whatever you call
27:40so as soon as I sat down
27:42he looked at me
27:43he said
27:43I'm so sorry for your loss
27:47and they said
27:47your great friend is no longer with us
27:53immense sadness
27:54and emotion came
27:56came immediately then
27:58and also then
27:59I immediately went to deny
28:01I said
28:01maybe he's wrong
28:02I hope this time he's wrong
28:06knowing that this is going to be a homicide case
28:08we still felt
28:10we needed a body
28:11to put these people away
28:12we knew they did it
28:13but without a body
28:14there was a good chance
28:16that they might get off
28:17personally to me
28:18I was pissed off
28:18I wanted to go back
28:20and punch Kenny in the face
28:22and get the information out of him
28:29there was a tip line
28:31that was put out
28:31for a person to call
28:32with information
28:33as to the sightings
28:35of the green Lincoln town car
28:37we were following up
28:39on every lead that we got
28:42we searched the Meadowlands
28:44out in Jersey
28:45Meadowlands is no picnic
28:47it's a swampy tall grass area
28:50it sucks
28:51it sucks
28:52it's just a smelly
28:53dirty place to search
28:56but perfect to dump a body
28:59we'd find all kinds of garbage
29:01all kinds of discarded containers
29:03luggage
29:03and what I call
29:04Coney Island whitefish
29:06meaning used condoms
29:07used tampons
29:10we were desperate to find
29:11Irene Silverman's body
29:13every tip that came in
29:15on this case
29:15or any case
29:16has to be investigated
29:17as crazy as it may sound
29:20one particular day
29:21I recall being in the office
29:23someone's come to our office
29:25with a dead chicken
29:29what brought my attention to it
29:31was the fucking smell
29:32it reeked
29:33and it permeated the office
29:35we were all told
29:36inside the anus
29:38of the dead chicken
29:39there's a note
29:40and in that note
29:41it says
29:42where Irene Silverman's body is
29:44I says
29:45get the fuck
29:47out of here
29:48and I made them
29:49get her out of the office
29:52but they slowly
29:54took the chicken
29:54and her
29:55down to 126th street
29:57Amsterdam Avenue
29:58where there was
29:59a chicken poultry farm
30:00factory
30:01whatever you want to call it
30:02and they examined the chicken
30:05as far as that chicken
30:06was concerned
30:07there was no note
30:08in the chicken's ass
30:13it was
30:14one of the lighter moments
30:16that we had
30:17during this investigation
30:18but that's how much pressure
30:19we were under
30:21each and every lead
30:22that came in
30:22had to be answered
30:28the Kimes
30:29were still in jail
30:29for the stolen car
30:30and we were listening
30:32to their phone calls
30:33and we intercepted a call
30:35from Sante Kimes
30:37talking to a private investigator
30:39hired by the defense
30:40she was advising him
30:43to go to the Plaza Hotel
30:45to retrieve a bag
30:48with that
30:49myself and another detective
30:51got into a car
30:53and rode lights and signs
30:55down to the Plaza Hotel
30:58and his retired detective captain
31:01was the head of security there
31:03who said
31:03private investigator
31:05just came in
31:06and got the bag
31:06gave us his name
31:08we have another detective
31:09looking up his
31:11private investigator's license
31:14the PI's office
31:15was down by City Hall
31:16so we went over there
31:18first he denied
31:19picking up the bag
31:20and then we told him
31:22listen
31:23we know that you went
31:24and picked up the bag
31:26how do you think
31:27we got to your office
31:29out of the blue
31:31so then he decided
31:32to surrender the bag
31:34that was probably
31:35one of the biggest breaks
31:36in the case
31:37that we got
31:39in that bag
31:40we found a 22 caliber
31:42handgun
31:44a power of attorney
31:46with Irene Silverman's
31:49signature on it
31:50that we recovered
31:52a copy of the deed
31:53signed by Irene Silverman
31:57what was noted on the deed
31:59was that in fact
31:59the house was being sold
32:01to the Atlantis Group
32:03Incorporated
32:04which we subsequently learned
32:06was a shell company
32:08created by
32:09Sante Kimes
32:11we had handwriting
32:13analysis done on them
32:15and sure enough
32:17it came back
32:18that those documents
32:19were forged
32:21we can see
32:22that it was notarized
32:24signed
32:24and dated
32:25by a specific
32:27notary
32:29once the notary
32:30was located
32:31she was interviewed
32:32the notary states
32:34that she came
32:34to Irene Silverman's
32:35building
32:37she found herself
32:38in a room
32:39where it's dimly lit
32:40it was dark
32:42Sante Kimes
32:43was dressed up
32:44as Irene
32:44in a bed
32:48you know
32:49with a red wig on
32:50and some to cover
32:51in her face
32:52the covers pulled up
32:53you know
32:54just like
32:54Little Red Riding Hood
32:55she had some ID
32:58which was forged ID
32:59or whatever
33:00and she notarized
33:02and that was it
33:06the notary
33:07was asked
33:07to view a lineup
33:08of Sante
33:09and Kenny Kimes
33:11at the district
33:11attorney's office
33:13and I remember
33:14sitting with
33:15Sante Kimes
33:16guarding her
33:17before the lineup
33:19she and I
33:19were the only ones
33:20in the room
33:20knowing that
33:22she's a con artist
33:22I just decided
33:24to not drop my guard
33:25and not allow her
33:26to get me into
33:27any type of conversation
33:29two minutes later
33:30I'm telling her
33:31yeah I'm separated
33:32I live in Yonkers
33:33my kids are 10
33:34and 12 years old
33:35I should have known
33:36better than to
33:37let her engage with me
33:40but she had
33:41the ability
33:42to just
33:43make you relax
33:44make you relax
33:45to a point
33:46where you
33:46you can just
33:47answer
33:48any and all
33:49questions
33:49that she asked
33:50and that's how
33:51she got information
33:52from people
33:54to go forward
33:56with some sort
33:56of scam
33:57or fraud
33:57that she was
33:58planning to do
34:01I know we picked
34:03Sante right out
34:04of the lineup
34:04no problem
34:05at all
34:10those forged documents
34:13became critical
34:14to the case
34:15because it was
34:16the motive
34:17it painted
34:19a very persuasive
34:20picture
34:21that the Kimeses
34:23were creating
34:25a fraudulent
34:25transaction
34:26to make it look
34:27like Irene
34:28Silverman
34:29was turning
34:30over the townhouse
34:31to them
34:32although we didn't
34:33have a body
34:34we were convinced
34:34that we could go
34:35forward with
34:37charging them
34:38with homicide
34:41five months
34:42after Irene
34:42went missing
34:43in December
34:44of 1998
34:45Sante and Kenneth
34:46Kimes were finally
34:47indicted for murder
34:48in the second degree
34:49they were indicted
34:49for burglary
34:50they were indicted
34:51for robbery
34:51they were indicted
34:52for eavesdropping
34:53there were 84 counts
34:54of charges against them
34:56I mean that's a hell
34:57of a lot of counts
34:58from her jail cell
35:00Kimes claims
35:01she's innocent
35:01please help
35:03I am pleading
35:04for our constitutional rights
35:06to a fair judge
35:07trial and a venue
35:09so that my wonderful
35:10young son's innocence
35:11can be proven
35:13to everyone
35:14what was strange
35:16is how many times
35:18Sante and Kenny Kimes
35:20got to the media
35:21while waiting
35:22for their trial
35:25my son and I
35:26are innocent
35:27there is a huge
35:29evil cover-up
35:30going on
35:31the police
35:32have made
35:33a terrible mistake
35:34you have been led
35:35to think certain things
35:38about the both of us
35:39which are completely
35:40untrue
35:42we are innocent
35:43it was really
35:44some act
35:46they were portrayed
35:48as being prosecuted
35:51for no good reason
35:53look at my son
35:54does he look like
35:55a killer to you
35:5660 minutes
35:58invited the Kimes
35:59to talk
36:00about what had happened
36:02it certainly didn't appear
36:04to be a mother-son relationship
36:05they're holding hands
36:07and Kenny
36:08you know
36:08complimenting
36:09his mother's looks
36:10I think she's
36:11a beautiful person
36:13spiritually
36:13and intellectually
36:14and physically
36:16it was just
36:18the strangest
36:19strangest thing
36:19to see
36:20of a mother and son
36:21who are adults
36:22there was speculation
36:24that there was
36:25an incestuous
36:26relationship going on
36:27I personally
36:29don't believe
36:30that
36:31my belief
36:33is that
36:34she was in control
36:36of every aspect
36:37of his life
36:38you're not Kenny
36:41she groomed Kenny
36:43to be a killer
36:48the case goes to trial
36:50in January of 2000
36:52about a year and a half
36:54after Irene's disappearance
36:57the main defense strategy
36:59was
37:00how can you possibly
37:01convict
37:02if there's nobody
37:02I'm not sure there is
37:04another defense
37:07but we were able
37:08to put on a four month trial
37:10and
37:11it went in quite smoothly
37:13both
37:14Sante and Kenny
37:15were found guilty
37:17on every single charge
37:21each one of them
37:22were going to get
37:22a minimum
37:23of 125 years
37:24to life
37:27Sante honestly
37:28thought she was
37:29smarter than everyone else
37:30these schemes
37:31were feeding her
37:32and she needed it
37:33like Dracula
37:33needs blood
37:35and I'll say this
37:36in their possession
37:38was a list of 16
37:40other New Yorkers
37:42targeted by the Kimes
37:44we checked with all them
37:45to make sure
37:46that they were okay
37:50in October of 2000
37:52when Sante and Kenny
37:55were awaiting extradition
37:57to the state of California
37:58where they faced
37:59the murder trial
38:00of David Kasdan
38:02I was assigned
38:03to produce a documentary
38:04for Court TV
38:06Kenny agreed
38:07ultimately
38:08to do an interview
38:09with me on camera
38:12he walked in
38:13and he looked scary
38:14he had
38:15the darkest
38:17blackest eyes
38:18that just seared
38:20right through me
38:24cameraman
38:24audio person
38:25start rolling
38:26within
38:2740 minutes
38:29he had asked me
38:29for three breaks
38:30if I may ask
38:32could we take a break
38:34in maybe 5 or 10 minutes
38:35the last break
38:36he asked
38:37would you mind
38:38getting me
38:38something to eat
38:40so
38:41I went to
38:42the vending machines
38:44I reach out
38:45to give him
38:46these items
38:47and before I know it
38:49he's around my back
38:51with his right arm
38:52across my
38:53my neck
38:55and
38:56he said to me
38:57this is a hostage
38:58situation
39:00sirens are going
39:01off
39:02Kenny notices
39:04that the cameraman
39:05has the camera
39:06still rolling
39:07and he said
39:08stop the fucking
39:09camera
39:10cameraman
39:10back
39:15being that close
39:17to him
39:18was disgusting
39:19I could feel
39:21his heart
39:22pounding
39:23against my back
39:25um
39:29I
39:29uh
39:31could feel
39:32his sweat
39:34I remember
39:35him flicking
39:36this pen
39:38and
39:39right away
39:40I'm thinking
39:40he's going to
39:41stab me
39:41with this pen
39:43the prison
39:44officials
39:45that had come
39:46into the room
39:46were saying
39:47Kenneth
39:48calm down
39:50you're not
39:51going to
39:51accomplish anything
39:52by doing this
39:53I said to him
39:55why are you
39:56doing this
39:57and right away
39:57he said
39:58my mother
39:59is old
39:59she cannot
40:00handle
40:01another trial
40:02I want
40:04my mother
40:05and I
40:05to be
40:06extradited
40:07to Canada
40:10it was really
40:11terrifying
40:14five long
40:15hours had
40:16gone by
40:18and I
40:18said to him
40:19Kenneth
40:20you know
40:22do you know
40:23how to pray
40:23let's pray
40:24together
40:25and he
40:26said yes
40:26I do
40:27and like
40:28this calmness
40:29came across
40:29his face
40:31after we
40:32prayed together
40:33a hostage
40:34negotiator
40:35said to
40:35Kenny
40:36Kenny
40:36it's been
40:37long enough
40:38he said
40:39this is my
40:40business card
40:40let me help
40:42you
40:43Kenny
40:44went to
40:44grab it
40:45which means
40:45he let me
40:46go
40:47and that
40:48was my
40:48opportunity
40:49to just
40:50storm out
40:51of that
40:51room
40:52there was
40:53at least
40:53a half dozen
40:54guys in
40:54there
40:55they jumped
40:56in
40:57and I
40:58didn't look
40:58back
40:58I just
40:59kept on
41:00going
41:01but I
41:02was just
41:04so grateful
41:05to be
41:06alive
41:12Kenneth
41:13Kimes
41:14helped
41:14his mother
41:14kill a
41:15wealthy widow
41:15now he's
41:16admitting to
41:16another murder
41:17he surprised
41:18a courtroom
41:19in Los Angeles
41:19by pleading
41:20guilty to
41:21killing a
41:21businessman
41:22David Kasdan
41:23he made a
41:24cooperation
41:25agreement
41:26with the
41:27LA County
41:28District Attorney's
41:29Office
41:29in which he
41:30testified against
41:31his mother
41:33he confessed
41:34to the murder
41:36of David Kasdan
41:39and the murder
41:40of Irene
41:40Silverman
41:41in exchange
41:43for a
41:44sentence that
41:45did not
41:45include the
41:46death penalty
41:48for himself
41:49and his
41:49mother
41:55Kenny said
41:56that Irene
41:57Silverman
41:58knocked on
41:58his door
42:00he pulled
42:01her into
42:01the apartment
42:02he stun
42:03gunned her
42:04she dropped
42:04to the floor
42:06he choked
42:07her to death
42:09then took
42:09a shower curtain
42:10wrapped her
42:11up
42:11taped her
42:12up
42:12with the
42:12duct tape
42:14put her
42:15in a
42:15duffel bag
42:17put her
42:18in the trunk
42:18of his car
42:20drove downtown
42:21through the
42:21Lincoln Tunnel
42:23he goes
42:23I saw a dumpster
42:24I put her body
42:26in the dumpster
42:26and that was it
42:32justice was served
42:35but we didn't
42:36have Irene's
42:36body
42:38you know
42:39it'll haunt
42:40me to my
42:40death
42:41that a
42:42great woman
42:43like that
42:44who actually
42:44contributed
42:45something to
42:45society
42:47doesn't even
42:47have closure
42:48you know
42:49in her life
42:50where her body
42:51was never laid
42:51to rest
42:54it's still
42:55an open case
42:56in my mind
42:59I'm hoping
42:59one day
43:00her remains
43:01are found
43:01and there's DNA
43:02and I get
43:04a phone call
43:04saying hey
43:05we found
43:05Irene
43:07do I think
43:07that's going
43:08to happen
43:08no I don't
43:09but do I hope
43:10it happens
43:10100%
43:11I'd love to
43:12get that phone
43:12call
43:13I really would
43:17it took
43:18at least
43:1810 years
43:19for me
43:19to come
43:19to term
43:20that
43:21someone
43:22really
43:22really
43:22killed
43:23her
43:28I had
43:29that
43:29fantasy
43:31that
43:31they
43:32they
43:32keep
43:32them
43:33somewhere
43:33and put
43:34her
43:34away
43:34somewhere
43:35a little
43:36time
43:36somewhere
43:36maybe
43:37she'll
43:37reappear
43:38but sadly
43:39last few
43:40years
43:40I came
43:41to term
43:43I came
43:44to term
43:45that
43:46she's no
43:46longer
43:47with us
43:47but she's
43:48smiling down
43:49at me
43:50every day
43:52every time
43:53I cross
43:5565th street
43:55I always
43:56look up
43:57to the
43:57beautiful
43:58home
44:00I say
44:00a quiet
44:01hello
44:01to her
44:04and
44:05tell her
44:06quietly
44:07that I
44:07missed
44:07her
44:22I get
44:23a call
44:24that
44:24a guest
44:25is experiencing
44:26a heavy
44:27leak
44:27of water
44:28into their
44:28room
44:30solo house
44:31is a very
44:32exclusive
44:32high-end
44:33club
44:34and
44:34a young
44:35woman
44:35dead
44:36in the
44:36bathtub
44:37the identity
44:38of the
44:39victim
44:39was Sylvie
44:40Cachet
44:40female
44:4133 years
44:42old
44:42she was
44:44a fashion
44:44designer
44:45swimsuit
44:46designer
44:46she was
44:48just the
44:48perfect member
44:49to be a part
44:50of solo house
44:51she checked
44:52in with her
44:53boyfriend
44:53and he's
44:54no longer
44:55there
44:55so yeah
44:56it is
44:57suspicious
44:58and then
44:59we find
45:00the fuck
45:01you email
45:01a picture
45:03is starting
45:03to emerge
45:04there are
45:06situations
45:07you hope
45:07to never be in
45:08what happened
45:09in that room
45:10it's not something
45:11you can just forget
45:12about
45:17you can just
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