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00:03in order to destroy our people you got to take away their humanity it was not all the storm
00:14they didn't care whatsoever about getting us out of here because it should never have taken that
00:21long but they were more worried about something else I hate to say it can't protect our property
00:30and I don't understand why they're not being even harder when law enforcement is present order is
00:35expected without it terror and mayhem can ensue I need reinforcements I need troops man thousands
00:45of newly arrived guardsmen have been ordered to take the city back from armed looters they
00:51said that New Orleans was out of control ruled by thugs when they came down there all they found
00:59is some hard-working God-fearing people that just happened to be poor is martial law in effect there
01:07I don't know why that isn't in effect well martial law something to shoot leaders on site states
01:11Congress well the martial law comes from the United States Congress it is a complicated process would
01:17you request martial law I've already called for martial law in the city of New Orleans
01:35the breaking news of this hour the mayor of New Orleans redeploying 1500 city police tonight he says
01:41taking them off the search for survivors putting them instead on the search for looters
01:49I was in the Hyatt Hotel along with the rest of the executive staff of the mayor it was at
01:56that point
01:56that police chief compass came into the room where the mayor and I were he said I've got a problem
02:03so the room cleared out and the police chief said last night one of our officers was just shot in
02:11the head New Orleans police officer Kevin Thomas stopped four suspicious men at the Chevron in the
02:17city's West Bank three cooperated but when he went to frisk the fourth a bullet from a 45 ripped through
02:23his
02:24head the savage attack that almost took his life you had situation where people actually shooting at
02:30the police whether the case of Kevin Thomas where he actually got shot in the head chief compass knew the
02:37officer and he became very emotional that's when the mayor responded to the police chief and said you do
02:45whatever you need to do to get this back under control tonight in a rare move practically
02:53unheard of in the United States martial law declared I told my officers the rules of engagement are still
03:02in effect we are not shooting looters I am not condoned in the use of deadly force except if your
03:09life is
03:09in danger I was adamant about that but I was one man in one place this was a citywide disaster
03:20you know and I
03:22couldn't be in the minds of 1300 police I still say today we didn't have a crime problem during Katrina
03:29we
03:30had an evacuation problem we had a command and control issue we had logistic issues we had
03:35transportation issues to get people out as quick as we could but it wasn't a crime problem but boy
03:41we got a lot of troops and police on the street we are ready nobody's gonna loot this town when
03:47you
03:47got all these old people in the building over here fucking dying hello there were still an awful lot of
03:55problems on the ground there were still perhaps thousands of people who were trapped in flooded homes
03:59rescue workers have to get out and they have to get to them and bring them back because by this
04:03point
04:03they've got to be running out of food and water
04:09good morning critical hours ahead in new orleans rescue teams getting back to work in the aftermath
04:14of hurricane katrina they're trying to save people trapped in their homes since the storm hit
04:20it was all about life saving that's it to know that you are actually the exact right person for the
04:29job
04:30and that you have the perfect training for it it means it's go time but we started to hear that
04:38civilians were shooting at the helicopters so we were in the middle of hoisting a bunch of people and we
04:47only had like six people in the helicopter and they just dropped the bare hook without a rescue device so
04:53i
04:53knew that was just for me so i clipped in and went up and then they just shut the door
04:58and i was like
04:59what's going on like we hit we had a basically an empty plane and uh they're like a helicopter crashed
05:05and i was like oh my god the story was that there was a swat police van that had been
05:12taken over by
05:13civilians and that they were shooting at the helicopters they stopped all rescue operations
05:20and everybody had to land at the coast guard air station
05:26i got the call from the white house and said the boss want to know are there snipers in new
05:32orleans
05:33because if they are he would airdrop the 82nd airborne in i said there's no snipers in new
05:38orleans what people are doing is they're shooting to try to get attention they said okay but if they
05:43proved to be there we're going to send federal troops and federalize the entire operation that
05:48would have been a big deal that would have put a large contingent of federal troops in charge of
05:52enforcing the law against the people of new orleans we did not need that
06:01there wasn't an uprising that needed to be suppressed there were people who needed to be helped
06:08an active force needed to handle the humanitarian side of the disaster
06:16so now we were back at the coast guard air station and we were like oh my god who is
06:22it who is it that
06:23crashed and then found out it was us my helicopter in particular they thought had crashed or got
06:33uh shot at because nobody had heard from us for hours but once we realized that we were the so
06:41-called
06:42missing party then word got back to you know the powers that be but it took them a while basically
06:52our
06:52whole fleet and not just us it was you know other branches and stuff were grounded for that time period
06:58when they thought a helicopter had crashed and i had the radio on and i was just listening to
07:04everything going on and i was just like oh my god we're not gonna get them all
07:11yeah it's like we're not gonna get them all
07:21so we were chump and a bit because we were i felt like we were wasting time
07:26so what i found actually insulting was the stuff about how there wasn't enough done because of race
07:34when that was the opposite for us but i know that's not true for everybody
07:38my personal experience was that there were helicopters out there but they were flying more
07:46going towards the lakeview area
07:50lakeview is an affluent area with very nice houses people of higher income and when you are in the
07:59water in harm's way and a helicopter is just passing over you constantly going and you know where
08:11that wasn't fair that's why i worked on fishing boats trying to get people out of attics out of harm's
08:27way
08:28so the storm hit sunday and this was thursday and we felt as if the help was coming but we
08:36were having
08:36a hard time understanding why it wasn't there yet we did not know that help was being stopped
08:43we still had a lot of people on rooftops needing to be rescued but we knew there would be people
08:50who
08:51said i've got a boat i'm getting out on the water and i'm saving whoever i can and that's all
08:58we had
08:58for quite a while every day we followed the same path with the boat and every house had water up
09:08to the roof
09:11every house
09:15you had people who were trapped in the attic but the tense heat of the day was overwhelming
09:25back up old boy back up back up back up
09:32we got him
09:35i hear somebody else yo
09:43you see there's a difference in a cry for help and a wailing i've heard both
09:53and you realize that help really isn't on the way
10:04i got you madam right here just hold on you're gonna be all right i saw eric doing his thing
10:09and he
10:10saw me and as i was past and i was like oh look that's eric and eric look oh look
10:15that's john it was
10:16like hey buddy i can't turn around and chit chat which i got to go but nah it was good
10:22to see i couldn't
10:23see him do anything different though john keller i can't say enough about that brother he's he could do it
10:30all
10:34i lived in american can apartments used to be a cannery so after the hurricane hit and the flood
10:42we went door to door so many people rolled to the door in their wheelchairs
10:47and when i closed i looked at my cousin chris i said man these people are in trouble
10:53we don't have any elevators these people are going to die in their apartments
10:59i said we got to get them out of here
11:03about on the top rooftop american can apartment i had 170 people in the build people were still coming to
11:10the build say hello so they went to the roof so i went and i got the fire extinguishers you
11:18know
11:18which was the parlor inside of them and i sprayed out drp mre's h20 that was acronyms that we use
11:26in
11:26the military so it's just a little quicker the helicopter will fly over us and read the little
11:33thing and fly up to like oh they come to get us but then they flew over me for a
11:38couple days reading
11:39my sign on the roof and they wasn't trying to do anything but i saw arrest all the white people
11:43at the building behind the american camp i said man let me hopefully i'm not right but let's get
11:50all the black people off the roof all the white people in the wheelchairs on the top of the roof
11:56i said i hope i'm not right 15 minutes later gave me whatever i need 15 minutes
12:05i said man i got 60 elderly right now we don't get them out here it's gonna be a morgan
12:13so they lifted off the roof the people were able to walk around or whatever i shuttled them to
12:19the bayou where the helicopters were picking people up i didn't do it by myself i had 12 people that
12:26helped me get all this together and i didn't know i was gonna have to like organize this rescue and
12:32make
12:32it happen but i wound up uh evacuating and helping 244 people get rescued out the american camp
12:43but when you in america and this supposed to be the greatest country on the planet
12:49and i'm watching how they treating these citizens and how they're not worrying about
12:53these citizens like they're like second-class citizens man it was appalling after all the
12:58stuff i did for this country and for them not to give you food and water because you're black
13:04on the roof man now that's a hard pill to swallow
13:14people still inside the superdome and the situation there is 23 000 according to uh the
13:19federal even as officials work to clear the superdome and pick up survivors from the interstates
13:24there are new problems the real hell on earth in new orleans this morning was here at the convention
13:30center one of the official evacuation sites but there are no buses here and there's no sign they're
13:36coming soon state and local officials are pointing the finger at washington and vice versa i just want to
13:41know why they don't bring me buses i only take you people out of here new orleans mayor issued an
13:46urgent sos on
13:47thursday for storm victims trapped at the convention center supplies there are running out we go baby
13:53out here they don't have no formula no water and they want us to survive out here where's the man
14:09somehow the uh state and government hadn't exposed the fact that when the focus was on the superdome
14:16we had an equal number of people at the convention center that was standing outside
14:25we first learned at the convention center we being the federal government today
14:29i've heard you say during the course of this evening on a number of interviews
14:33you just found out about it today don't you guys watch television don't you guys listen to the radio
14:38how is it possible that you're not that we're getting better intel than you're getting we had a
14:42uh a crew in the air we were showing live pictures of of the people outside of the convention center
14:48we're feeding those people in the convention center but it begs the question why are you discovering this
14:52now it's five days that fema's been on the ground the head of police says it's been five days that
14:57fema's
14:58been there i believe a lot of people outside of the city probably combined the convention center and
15:05the superdome into one building just not knowing those two terms together people outside of the city
15:17saw that as one place you know with all due respect the people in the convention center are being fed
15:22the people in the superdome i'm sorry you're absolutely correct we're getting the supplies to
15:35the convention center now we found out much later that as we were telling people in the federal
15:42government that in the superdome they have food and they have water at the same time in the convention
15:50center there was no food there was no water we're finding food wherever we can i just finished serving
15:57the old folks as best i could for what we had i hadn't ate i hadn't ate in like three
16:04days you know
16:06we're all out there the whole day didn't pass by all the hot sun we out there in the hot
16:10sun all day the
16:11sun beaming this is a federal disaster not a local one first let me tell you there have been deliveries
16:17of food water and medical supplies to the superdome and that's happened uh almost from the very
16:22beginning but this is the convention center i said i i have not heard a report of thousands of people
16:26in the convention center who don't have food and water no food no water people in here are dying from
16:34not 80s when the police chief uh was telling me at the convention center hey we got all these thugs
16:53on it what are you talking about they say oh they're arresting they're fighting with my cops down here we
16:59need more uh troops in here to help control them we need more police so i went down there and
17:07they
17:07were just like the people at the superdome waiting for somebody to tell them how they were going to
17:12evacuate these people haven't seen security here at the convention center for four days the fear was
17:19that they would turn violent that they would attack supplies and buses and look at them they're sitting
17:24peacefully they're just waiting for a line that's taking too long to go i call that the patience of
17:31the poor i grew up that way you learn to wait when you're poor in america you're not free and
17:42when
17:42you're poor you you learn to have patience you lose choices when you're poor yeah you don't pick where
17:49your kids go to school you don't pick where you live and you don't pick where you go to the
17:53doctor
17:53if you can get to see one so many of these people almost all of them that we see are
18:01so poor and they
18:03are so black and this is going to raise lots of questions for people who are watching this story
18:09unfold we didn't have no protection out there you know but for some reason everybody was kind of calm
18:17because of the crisis you know they knew what was going on they knew right now it's just the time
18:22for survival one thing about the poor people from new orleans we knew how to survive if anything else
18:29we knew how to survive we knew how to eat we knew how to you know we knew how to
18:32get food we knew how to
18:36work but we can't survive in water and we cannot survive in water that's over our head you know
18:42what i mean we you know y'all y'all got us with that
18:48over four thousand national guard troops were operating in new orleans today more arrived in
18:53armored vehicles another 12 000 have been ordered to the region in simplest of terms exaggerating
18:59conditions on the ground just makes things worse we believe that we need to free up the national guard
19:05essentially to do security in the city i think probably the mission that came through the loudest
19:12was it's it's really messed up down there and you need to go help fix it and that's probably not
19:17the
19:17right mindset of people who should arrive here should have
19:31that's probably not the right mindset of people who need to go to the super dome
19:32after we got to the super dome we were greeted by the national guard and the national guard wanted to
19:40search my daughter my niece they want to go inside their bras and their underwear and search this two
19:48year old baby and go inside of her pamper to see if we had any weapons to go inside the
19:53super dome and then told me i couldn't bring my dog
20:00so i walked down to the hyatt and the clerk at the desk i was like here's my credit card
20:08can we just get a room just one room she said no ma'am the computers are down we're on
20:15auxiliary
20:15electricity but you can stay and they said anyone with pets y'all have to go to like
20:23the third floor i think it was to the ballroom in the third floor i just had surgery and i've
20:30forgotten
20:31my medicine so by now it's like hours since i've taken a pain pill or anything and i'm in severe
20:39pain
20:39i'm trying not to short i'm trying to be strong for them but i'm sweating and i'm shaking and i'm
20:45cold and i'm hurting and my daughter and my niece left left the hotel and went to i think they
20:59said they
20:59went to walgreens or something and so they came back with like this big santa claus bag full of
21:05shampoos and tylenol and they were all excited and they got this bag mom we got you some medicine mom
21:12you gonna be okay mom we went looting i was like oh my god you guys could have been killed
21:20y'all could
21:20have been shot then they boarded up the hotel and they weren't letting anybody else in and they were
21:30you know telling us that we had to act accordingly and this guy was knocking on the door
21:39and he kept saying you know let me in let me in i was already in there let me in
21:45and the national guard
21:46saying sir do not advance we can't let you in here sir do not advance so we had all of
21:55this and i'm like
21:57scared to dead half of the time we got the military walking around pointing guns making folks go to
22:03sleep lay down move here move there you know hurry up hurry up i said move now pointing guns
22:09at you and you're like okay
22:17it was a lot it was a lot and it kept you so defensive that your body ate
22:24from you know just wondering what next what next you know is i know something else is going to happen
22:30what next
22:35governor blanco talked to some of her guys from the national guard
22:39and she went out and did a press conference and said i have one message for these
22:45for these hoodlums these troops know how to shoot and kill and they are more than willing to do so
22:53if necessary and i expect they will i said governor you don't want to tell your troops to shoot people
23:00to
23:01kill that's your people oh general
23:07man please that's not something you ever want to do
23:11by any government elected official is to tell the troops to shoot civilians
23:18that that will flip our democracy we saw what happened at kent state
23:25when troops over some bullshit mission went out there and shot students on the campus
23:29i didn't want to be any part of a operation where troops thought they had cart blank to shoot people
23:38it took four days but the national guard finally rolled a relief convoy into downtown new orleans
23:44today our job was to protect people and evacuate them that was the priority
23:51not protect some store or protect property
23:56i think there ought to be zero tolerance of people breaking the law during an emergency such as this
24:03and we struggling people going loose stores and they're bringing us the juices and they're about
24:07to kill them then we are nothing we need to be very careful when we feel that the tone has
24:13shifted
24:15and if suddenly the mission feels like we're protecting stuff
24:36and then the rumble of trucks it's clear the rescuers feared the ones that came to help
24:43at least initially this was not combat operations there was nobody shooting at it but federal troops
24:49had the perception of what they saw from exaggerated report on television that the city was out of
24:56control can the national guard get the city of new orleans under control violence seems to be everywhere
25:01some thugs are even threatening ems personnel we'll have the very latest
25:06some of them have been fresh from iraq and they knew what the counter sniper rule was
25:11if you got 10 troops all of them are pointing in different directions looking for the sniper
25:16looking at the ground looking at eye level looking on top of buildings
25:22and that that was a concerning scene when those troops turned the corner from padres to convention
25:28street pointing their weapons in many cases they were pointing weapons at a place where a lot of
25:33ladies with babies and elderly ladies were standing
25:38in a disaster one of the first thing you got to do is figure out what rules you're going to
25:47break
25:57the rules federal officers don't tell the national guard what to do and at that time we didn't work for
26:03the national guard and national guard didn't work well put those damn weapons down i'm going to play
26:07again god damn it get those goddamn weapons down
26:13put those weapons down damn it well you see them doing dumb yeah you tell them what to do because
26:18they do a lot of great stuff but if they're doing dumb that's not consistent with the mission
26:33that guardsman who's in wisconsin who's packing their bag and they're preparing to come to louisiana
26:38kind of feels like they're going to a war zone and they weren't but that's the mindset they brought
26:43with them that it was really really bad here put that weapon down on your back
26:50when you're in rescuing people you don't point guns at them
26:59by that time i became somewhat of the de facto voice because i was on the ground in new orleans
27:04not in baton rouge and not in dc and i knew one of the implied tasks was to get the
27:12story straight
27:13and i clearly understand our mission was to save lives hey tiger let's go again the people aren't
27:21the problem the system's the problem the lack of of systems that took care of all these people was
27:26the problem but the people aren't the problem go help the people and i think that got lost you know
27:32my understanding is that martial law is in effect and it's at this point we can't protect our own
27:39so martial law was never enacted in new orleans mann egan announced that martial law was in effect
27:45but he didn't have the authority to declare martial law and that contributed to a lot of confusion on
27:51the ground in practice declaring martial law meant giving the police chief the authority to
27:59do whatever he needed to do that's my understanding of martial law there was rumor that new
28:05walls was under martial law but no one had ever told the police department hey we're under martial
28:11law no that never happened but there was rumors about all of that all over the place so did some
28:17officers believe that there's a possibility there was a lot of opportunities they had to do
28:24some unsavory things but people with integrity don't do that i can vouch for my men and women that
28:29work for me didn't happen now you had some policemen probably they don't say every intentions and kind
28:37of stepped over the line i'm sure you not just some you probably had a lot
28:47it was a friday evening the buses didn't come none through the week
28:51so we thought it was manning gonna come on friday
28:57so it started getting almost dark every time the people out there would see lights coming down
29:03the street they're thinking that's the buses coming to take us away
29:10a call came from down the street they thought was a bus so that was it was a cop call
29:14and the cop you
29:15know he rolled back he rolled past took his time this little guy was like hey he was just like
29:23when
29:24they gonna send the buses so the cop he slowed down a little bit the little guy felt like he
29:30was being
29:30ignored right so he turned around and walked off and when he turned around and walked off the cop rode
29:37the
29:37the the the the back window down and stuck his shotgun out the window and hit the little dude hit
29:44the
29:44little guy on his back bam and then the guy just dropped right there like he did he killed this
29:53this man in front of all these people and and and the guy's sister was out there like that that
29:59lady
29:59not gonna never be right you know what i'm saying as long as she lives she's not gonna never be
30:03right
30:03because she witnessed her brother getting killed for nothing trying to find out some information
30:09well i thought that was the coldest thing in the world like the police really killing people
30:13and they're killing people in front of everybody so i just felt like i was like okay well this was
30:21gonna happen to me i thought that was gonna happen to me i definitely did
30:36when we knew that there was no food and water at the convention center and the number of people kept
30:42growing and it had reached above 20 000 people the mayor said if you're at the convention center walk
30:52at least then you know you're walking toward the safety of others we found one evacuation route to
31:01walk across the crescent city connection on the overpass down highway 90 there's buses coming you may be able
31:08to find some relief so we were up on the interstate and it was hot as hell it was unbearable
31:20in some
31:20situations you didn't have access to water so my sister and the people we were with decided we were
31:27going to go as far down as we could go and we walked down trying to get as close as
31:32we could to the algaes
31:34to the bridge the great new orleans bridge the only thing we were looking for was to be able to
31:38find
31:38some place safe but that didn't happen
31:52by the time the word got to the people at the convention center and they began to walk
31:57across the mississippi river bridge unfortunately the story of lawlessness took such a life of its
32:04own that good members of law enforcement but also emergency personnel and surrounding neighbors
32:12turned people back turned good people back from help
32:19you ready for this no you think this is one of the scariest things that you've ever had to do
32:24in your
32:25life i can honestly say yeah it is when we get to the bridge it's going to be scary yeah
32:29we're
32:30going to be crossing the crescent city connection yeah the situation is everybody who's stuck on this
32:34side of the river without transportation is in the area that we're going to right now walking
32:40desperate walking without food or water haven't eaten in a few days haven't drank in a few days
32:46you know so it's it's going to be a pretty desperate situation when we get there
32:50okay and i can honestly say i have no qualms about shooting anybody it's just that much lawlessness
32:56right now
32:59they'll have no mercy for us no we have no fear we will shoot first and i'll shoot first and
33:05ask
33:05questions right
33:11we'll have to be picking them off the front
33:15here we go they have set up a checkpoint at the bottom of this bridge
33:20this is the bridge that takes you from new orleans over into gretna from orleans parish into
33:24jefferson's parish it's the only way out it's the it's the connection to the rest of the world and
33:30they've set up a checkpoint and anyone who walks up out of that city now is turned around you are
33:35not
33:36allowed to go to gretna louisiana from new orleans louisiana over there there's hope over there there's
33:42electricity over there there's food and water but you cannot go from there to there i think the government
33:47will not allow you to do it we were not allowed to go across the mississippi river bridge even though
33:58that's still orleans parish which is where uh our taxes go we were told we could not go into
34:05that part of the city
34:11they were under the impression that people were just going to want to leave new orleans to go rob them
34:18which you really wanted to get out of new orleans so you could live or survive
34:25well i was uh i was here this is algaes algaes park to be exact algaes is the west bank
34:36well we really didn't have any water there because it was just like a dry land but they had uh
34:42trees
34:43down you know and limbs and you know stuff in the streets and stuff like that but forest water they
34:50didn't have no water on the west bank of the river in algaes well this is the other hurricanes that
34:57hit new orleans if they don't affect the west bank we don't leave you know because we can survive
35:04it don't damage that bad you're gonna have food in your house probably just need water
35:12katrina didn't bring no flooding in the west bank none
35:20but algaes was not safe
35:24some of the areas were telling the people don't come over here
35:28it wasn't safe at all it really wasn't
35:34one of my neighbors came around here and he came he was trembling man what's wrong with you
35:41he said man they tried to kill me he said man there's some white boys around the corner
35:46and i had to beg them not to shoot them i was down the street and they said where you
35:53from
35:53where you at turn around turn around i said hold on i live right here in the next block turn
36:00around
36:01turn around well i didn't believe it i went around that wedding
36:05if you want to call a vigilante yeah well we just looked out for everybody
36:12you had to do what you had to do you know you had to shoot somebody you had to shoot
36:16somebody
36:17no we had that triple we shot them they were looters oh i tried to shoot to put them down
36:25we
36:25didn't try to shoot a kill oh okay did you kill the number of them how many did you kill
36:30roughly
36:30you can't yeah i hear you it doesn't matter they chose to die they chose to commit suicide
36:42how do you know the vigilantes you see them how they patrol around here in trucks four truck
36:52driver and and a passenger and then two in the back with long guns
36:59and nobody telling them anything there was no police no police no army and no national guard nobody
37:09then they put in a shoot to kill a curfew a dust to dawn shoot to kill but there's nobody
37:17left
37:19young blacks was being killed in this community
37:24when you hear the gunfire it's not something i'm just making up it's out there it was great
37:32it was like pheasant season in south dakota if it moved you shot it
37:50i remember that the storm had passed and we were just you know in algaes with no information
38:02no food no water or nothing like that
38:11the train of me and the day my brother left me that's what it mean to me day my brother
38:18left
38:19henry glover was my younger brother he was going out to you know help his sister and help his family
38:26you know to go out and and trying to get water and stuff that we need that to to survive
38:33i hear my
38:34brother-in-law from a distance dirty that's my nickname dirty red dirty dirty police shot your brother
38:45i said he shot my boy shot him where i go out screaming running down the street
38:51and asked him where my brother was and i found my brother laying in the streets
38:58shot i knew it was the police when the first time i heard he was shot my brother-in-law
39:03that's
39:03what he was saying a police shot your brother
39:10so when i looked to the left car coming down the street so i flagged that car i said man
39:16my brother
39:16been shot give me some help help me he said man come on put him in the car i heard
39:20i heard a gunshot
39:21but i went pinching i thought it might be fireworks i saw a gentleman laying on a manhole and his
39:27brother
39:28and his brother-in-law picked him up and put him in my back seat in my car i picked
39:32him up
39:35blood was hitting the ground like it was raining
39:40sound like it was raining i told him bring him to the hospital and uh william tanner told me about
39:48a school called haven school um where the police had a makeshift substation up there so tanner the
39:55guy we flagged down he said man i know the police is over here they should have a doctor over
40:00there so
40:01we shoot out so i can bring them to have a school because i know two days out of the
40:06storm they had
40:06medical attention they had truckload of stuff over there this these are police so i thought i might
40:11get him the help he need five of them come out get on the ground get on the ground now
40:20get on the
40:21ground i said we need help he's shot and they start beating us up well they kicked me twice in
40:30the
40:30stomach and hit me with m16 rifle inside my cheek he punched me in the face bob stood me up
40:38put his
40:39hand around my throat choke me till i was my eyes rose in the back of my head i thought
40:45they was gonna
40:45kill me for them to be beating me that's when they registered these are the people who shot him
40:52they did take a picture of us it was with the police handcuffed behind the police and opening
40:57these car car i saw one of them had flares in his pocket and he drove off with my car
41:04with henry glove in the back seat i told edward i don't think i'll see that car again because i
41:09figured that when the flares he had in his pocket he was gonna burn the car up
41:17his remains was found burnt inside of a car
41:31people talk about katrina i kind of shy away walk off katrina just a hurricane but what they did
41:40during that time that was evil pure evil i don't remember that
41:52i'm not a naive person to violence but nothing prepared me for what happened after katrina
42:03and it's real hard to see when that violence is being inflicted upon you and you can't defend
42:13yourself from it that's what it happened after katrina
42:23at the parish line the county line of gretna they were met with attack dogs and police officers with
42:33machine guns saying you have to turn back so we were up on the bridge and it became more of
42:43a situation
42:44where when are we going to get out how are we going to get out look we this high in
42:50water we grab
42:51what we get how long you been walking for about at least three hours they weren't going to go in
42:57those doggone neighborhoods they weren't going to impact those neighborhoods those people were
43:02looking to escape and they cut off the last available exit route look at my people
43:10i got two rancher and a nephew another nephew right now we got trying to get the old folks out
43:18if i stay up here i'm gonna die if i go that way and they shoot me now i'm gonna
43:24die
43:24so i'm gonna die in the way you're gonna tax me anyway but whatever it takes for me to get
43:30mine out
43:31yeah i'm getting the fuck out you you heard me oh i wouldn't give a fuck i gotta go
44:01thank you
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