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00:00Charlie Puth is in the building. Welcome to the show. We're so excited. I knew this was going to be
00:05my favorite thing I did. Okay. There you go. Don't flirt with us now. Come on. We're so excited to
00:11have you. Whatever's clever out March 27th and the current single beat yourself up. It's a, it's a, it's a
00:16whole bop. It's a bop. I mean, you are the king of bops. I love making a bop and I
00:20love a lot of instruments all in one song. And when you, if you come to, you got to come
00:25to the Madison Square Garden show because this song sounds even better.
00:30with, with my band. And you have such an exciting year coming up because not only is the album coming
00:34out, you're in your full dad mode. I know it's in the album kind of gives dad a little bit.
00:39Dad and daddy. Yeah. It feels like a yacht rock, almost adult contemporary, but like new, like for Gen Z,
00:47like kind of, kind of album. We have, who do we have on the sound? We have Coco Jones on
00:51this album. We have Love Coco. Yeah. She was just performing at the Superbowl as well. Uh, we have Raven
00:56Lynette who's amazing. We have Jeff Goldblum on the album,
00:59we have Michael McDonald and Kenny Loggins. You can't, on the album, you can't make a yacht rock album. The
01:05guys who invented it on there. With Kenny G on the album, we have Hikaru Utada on the album. It's
01:10a very international kind of song. It's a, it's very exciting.
01:13It is very exciting. And I love too that you and Coco both had the experience at the Superbowl. And
01:17I love that. I forget where you were talking about, that you were talking about how you and Whitney Houston,
01:22two Jersey, two Jersey peeps doing the thing. How, I mean, I know, are you still like in disbelief that
01:27you did this?
01:27I am in disbelief and I know that there's, um, a video of me somewhere looking up at the sky
01:32there. Obviously I, I, I was very happy that we, me and the orchestra and the choir, the Oakland choir
01:38nailed the national anthem.
01:41I was very happy about that because it's musically very hard to, hard to do, but I just, I couldn't
01:45believe the flyover happened right on the mark.
01:48Like, uh, cause it didn't happen that way when we were rehearsing it. I was like, okay, it'll just be,
01:52but they, they nailed it.
01:54The NFL nailed it. You nailed it. You sounded so, you sounded so amazing. Thank you.
01:59This is going to be a big year for you. I mean, we're always here to hype you up.
02:03That's very nice. I'm excited to hear the rest of the album. And I love that you worked with Jimmy
02:07Jam.
02:07I think that is so interesting and a really cool link up. I mean, we are big, massive Janet Jackson
02:11fans.
02:12And so we understand the legendary Jimmy Jam. Do you feel like you have some of the, I mean, you
02:16were talking about yacht rock.
02:17Is there also some like Jackson influences on this? Absolutely. I mean, you listen to the snare on, uh, beat
02:22yourself up.
02:23It feels like a rhythm nation. What's the nothing, uh, love will never do without you.
02:35Janet is the first artist I heard, um, use those big snares in her music.
02:40And then I discovered that it was Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis who, uh, were part of that production.
02:44Yeah. And I loved watching that because it's like watching your TikTok videos, which I feel you're kind of like,
02:49I don't, are music schools mad at you that you're basically teaching everybody like the secrets of like, you're doing
02:53it for free.
02:54And I just can't stop watching them. Cause you just, I love seeing your passion in it.
02:58And also like stuff that I didn't even know was happening in music happen.
03:02Well, you know where I got the idea from, I was watching the food network and don't even write.
03:08Like how, how Oreos are made. You ever see the, the nineties food network and be like, this is how
03:13a Twinkie is made.
03:14This is how, uh, uh, uh, and, and I thought to myself, if people are, uh, interested, everyone eats, uh,
03:21and sometimes we skip breakfast, but like most of the time eat, but like if we, uh, I skip breakfast,
03:26maybe that's not good.
03:27Um, but we want to know where our favorite foods come from, how they're made. Why wouldn't we want to
03:32know that about music?
03:33Yeah. I loved your recent video about the, how the sound of 2016 became so 2016 and it all started
03:40with like some random SoundCloud.
03:42Yeah, it was a, it was a, it was a SoundCloud mix and it's just, I, I knew music progresses
03:49every, not to nerd out too much here on page six.
03:51Oh, please.
03:53All right. Talk to me.
03:54Glasses on.
03:56Glasses on, glasses on, apple in hand.
03:58That's right.
03:59A test happening, right? A quiz, a pop quiz right after this. Um, music progresses when there's too much of
04:05one thing and the world needs something different. Law of diminishing returns. So at 2010 to 2013, everything was, which
04:15is fun music. We'd like to, and it's going to come back again, but there was just an influx of
04:19it. There was so much of it. So, you know, then you hear the exact opposite, really chilled out Kygo
04:25tropical mixes.
04:26And then those started catching fire into pop music. And even we don't talk anymore. My own song, I would
04:32say it's kind of, thank you. It's kind of influenced by those early dance mixes from 2014, 2015.
04:39I love it. And also I'm kind of curious because you were saying how music is ever evolving and changing.
04:44And obviously you're now able to dance. Like you're saying this has yacht rock influence and everything. But do you
04:50ever look back and is there like a generation or decade that you're like, oh, that would have been so
04:53fun if I was making music and that era.
04:55Oh my gosh. I think I thought about that last night, like 1988, when rhythm, when rhythm nation came out,
05:01like 1987, 1988, when, you know, you, in order to listen to a song, you had to purchase this, this
05:06is a CD.
05:07You had to purchase a CD. You had to wait outside Jack's music shop in Red Bank. You had to,
05:12you know, you had to like go somewhere and like mute, like you had to mail in order a TLC
05:18CD.
05:19It's like, not everything was so accessible. I really hope music can get back to that, um, that point in
05:25time again, one day, because it is great that you can turn on Sirius XM and just hear everything.
05:30But it's nice to like, it's like, it's nice to have the dangling carrot.
05:34It's almost like ceremonial. Like I remember like going and being like, oh my God. Okay. I'm like, mom, can
05:38you drive me that? The CD's at the seat where you just feel.
05:40And the booklet and looking through the photos and the song credits and just the lyrics. Oh my God.
05:46But I think, again, I think law of diminishing returns, we had so much of like the streaming and stuff
05:50that that's still there.
05:52But like, I feel like kids are starting to like vinyls again and CDs and maybe they'll like cassettes again.
05:57But one thing that they, uh, I haven't forgotten about is live music. And like, that's why I want everybody
06:03to come to this show.
06:03Are you excited for the tour?
06:05I am so excited.
06:06Is that your favorite part of this whole experience of being a pop star singer songwriter is performing live?
06:10Or do you like being in the studio? Like, is that, how does it sort of compare?
06:13I, I like it an equal amount. I like it an equal amount because there's nothing better when a song,
06:19you know, a song is good.
06:20Like, we don't talk anymore. Again, I had that, that melody in my head and that chorus in my head,
06:26but I just, I was traveling.
06:27So I didn't have my speakers with me or my good headphones. So I, I wasn't really nailing the production.
06:32But then when I had a couple of days off and I had speakers set up in the hotel room
06:39and I found the perfect kick drum, that just like ignited my inspiration.
06:43I finished the entire song. Like that's a, it's, it's the same thing when a crowd likes what you're doing
06:48in a live setting.
06:49And I feel you probably just feed off of it because so what, whatever's clever dot world has all the
06:54information.
06:54And I do love when I went on the website, it is giving that like Y2K.
06:58Yeah, it's giving it like your AOL screen name and everything.
07:02Oh my God. I wanted like the door slam after I get my tickets.
07:05Oh my God. I will cry if I hear that. My username was the PuthFairy14.
07:10Really?
07:11Yes.
07:11I love that. That's so cute.
07:13Okay, punning from day one. I love that.
07:15Day one, my MySpace page had a Ashley Simpson song.
07:19Oh, which song?
07:20I'm a Monday, I am waiting.
07:23Oh, piece of me.
07:23Piece of me.
07:24We were literally talking about how like we could have been coders in another life of how much energy we
07:28put into our MySpace.
07:29Oh my God. The HTML, like the, the, the, the song would just magically pop up onto your page.
07:35And I love, oh my God. I love that you had Ashley Simpson as the MySpace song.
07:37I know. That really makes me happy.
07:39Yeah. Cause I just, I love that song. Cara Dioguardi wrote that song. I just, I love, I love music.
07:44I feel like you're such a fan of pop music.
07:45I was like, I always remember this one interview you did like years ago and you were very shocked and
07:49upset that Oops, I Did It Again was not a number one hit.
07:52It wasn't?
07:53No, it wasn't.
07:54Oh no, it wasn't.
07:54It wasn't.
07:55I'm still shocked.
07:56I'm a massive Britney Spears fan and I was like, yes, Charlie gets it. It should have been number one
08:01everywhere.
08:02It is, it is that, I mean, that is, that in my mind, that's producer Rami Yaqub and Max Martin,
08:07Britney Spears.
08:08That is, that, you know, there's a choir on that song as well. That's how I got the idea for
08:13putting a choir on all of my album.
08:16And that's why you turned on the Super Bowl and saw a choir in the background. I believe choirs are
08:20severely underused in pop music.
08:22And if you, go ahead and listen to the, after this, listen to the chorus of Oops, I Did It
08:27Again, you'll hear a little bit of a choir backing Britney up.
08:29Wow.
08:30It just lifts her voice up.
08:31I love that that has been so inspirational for you.
08:33Absolutely.
08:33And now I think back, yeah, and then Madonna's like a prayer with the choir. It makes me cry.
08:38Absolutely.
08:38I'm so glad.
08:38That's when you hear multiple voices, it's just multiple human singing. There's, it gives you this emotional, like, kind of
08:47response that you can't just get from one voice.
08:49Because you said you just love music so much. Is there pressure or excitement? Like, what is the first song
08:54you're going to show your kid?
08:55Oh, yeah.
08:56Is it, is it like the Oopsie Dootsie Spider? I don't know. I don't have kids. I forget what they're
08:59all called.
09:00That's such a good question.
09:00The Oopsie Dootsie Spider.
09:02Can you tell I have no children in my life?
09:06Wait, but Charlie's going to write that song and it's going to be a smash.
09:08The Oopsie Dootsie Spider.
09:10And you're going to play it in Long Branch.
09:12Oh, yes. We'll be at Max's, yeah.
09:14Oh, Max's Hot Dogs is still open.
09:16Oh, honey. Yes, it is.
09:17That's great. My mom used to go there.
09:19Oh, my God. I love Max's and then Lighthouse Ice Cream.
09:22Lighthouse, the real Lighthouse. You know, you know, the old Lighthouse. It's not there anymore.
09:26That one had better fries. The Lighthouse now is pretty good.
09:29It's pretty good, but I know it used to be, everything's changing.
09:31Everything's changing. It used to be real.
09:33I want Lighthouse to hear this.
09:35Oh, no. I'm thinking of the windmill.
09:36Oh, a windmill with the fries and the actual windmill.
09:38Windmill with the fries.
09:39Lighthouse is the one, like the Lighthouse Ice Cream.
09:41Strollos, yeah.
09:42The lines are too long and it's hard for me to go into public places.
09:45Wait, I'll get your ice cream for you.
09:47Perfect.
09:47Wait, literally, I'm always, they're always eating.
09:49Can you go online now, though? It's open in six months.
09:52Oh, wait, but what is the song? Do you have the song in mind yet?
09:55That I'm going to play my child.
09:56I would play Hit Me Baby one more time and be like, wow.
10:00We're going to raise an Evan.
10:01Like, wow.
10:02I'm going to be like, baby, this is what euphoria sounds like.
10:05Oh my God, you are speaking straight to my spirit, Charlie.
10:08I love Brittany so much and I love that you love her so much.
10:10It makes me so happy.
10:12Did we share the same birthday?
10:13Are you December 2nd?
10:14December 2nd.
10:15Wow.
10:15Oh, you do love her.
10:16Yeah, I love her.
10:17Oh my God.
10:18Charlie, you actually don't understand.
10:19No, she is within the fabric of my soul.
10:21Are you December 2nd at 9pm?
10:23But I love that you for your birthday, Sagittarius.
10:26Yes, Sagittarius.
10:27That's beautiful.
10:27All the best pop stars are Sagittarians.
10:29Yes.
10:29And so is my mom.
10:30Brittany, Christina, Kiki, Danny's mom.
10:33She's not a pop star, but she's a Sagittarius.
10:35Miley.
10:36Miley too, that's right.
10:38It's because we're Taylor.
10:40We're adventure seekers.
10:42Yes.
10:42And also because, of course, I have to bring it up.
10:45Number five, New Jersey.
10:47Yes.
10:47Is this a love letter to home or what's going on with it?
10:50You know what's funny?
10:51That song is, it has a West Coast beat to it, which is kind of, there's like bits of comedy
10:57sprinkled out through this entire album.
10:59There's something for everybody.
11:01Not like ha-ha funny, but just like, why is there a song called New Jersey with Raven
11:05Lene, who's from Chicago?
11:06I love that you just quoted Teresa Giudice without even knowing while talking.
11:09What did I say?
11:10Ha-ha funny.
11:11I did say that.
11:12And that's something she said at a reunion.
11:14I met her once.
11:15She's so funny.
11:16How was that?
11:17You had the same reaction as my sister.
11:19Oh my God.
11:19We need to move back here.
11:21I love New York.
11:22Please come home.
11:22Was she a vibe?
11:23She's a vibe.
11:24Yeah, she is a vibe.
11:24All of them are a vibe.
11:25We love her.
11:26Yeah.
11:26And I love that your sister's a fan of her, too.
11:28Oh my God.
11:29My sister needs to meet you.
11:30She loves you.
11:30Oh my God.
11:31Yes.
11:32Well, we're going to see her at the Whatever's Clever World Tour.
11:34Yes, you will.
11:35Yeah, so whatever's clever.world for tickets.
11:37Whatever's Clever is out on March 27th.
11:39Charlie, thank you so much for stopping by.
11:41We can talk to you.
11:41My favorite part of the day.
11:42Really?
11:43Yeah.
11:43Charlie, get out of here.
11:44You're feeling so mutual.
11:44My favorite part of the day, too.
11:46That means so much.
11:46You
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