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02:29would always hang out with younger girls,
02:32always American girls,
02:33which restaurants he would take them to,
02:35and they just started giving me information.
02:37Random people would give me information.
02:54During this time, it was just on Facebook still.
02:57Like, I was just posting every single...
02:59I mean, I would literally go to bed on my email,
03:04wake up, email, Facebook, talk to people,
03:07like, all day, all day.
03:10I wasn't sleeping.
03:11I was just on my phone nonstop talking to people,
03:15trying to, like, figure out what the fuck was going on.
03:28Gabriel, I was talking about Discover Excursions,
03:31and I was telling a story
03:32that seemed like a lot of the story that I remember.
03:48When we got to Sevilla,
03:50every group had a cultural guide,
03:54who was assigned.
03:56The cultural guide was directly
04:00directly to an office of a travel agency.
04:04This agency was called Discover Excursions.
04:09Welcome. So here we are, the Discover Sevilla office.
04:12We're open Monday through Friday, 10 a.m. to 8 p.m.
04:15No CS is for us. Come by anytime you like.
04:18Let's check it out right now.
04:19Let's check it out right now.
04:24And the agency was full of the flags of our universities.
04:30The flag of my university at Penn State was there.
04:35And behind a library was Manuel White.
04:42At that moment I thought I was about 40 years old.
04:46I had dark hair and a very white smile.
04:52He asked me where I studied.
04:55And I'm studying at Penn State.
04:57And he said,
05:00Well, what a joyous feeling,
05:01because I love Penn State girls.
05:03They are fun and they know how to celebrate.
05:08And I remember that at that moment I felt like,
05:11Well, that's strange that you would say.
05:13Because in my mind I was like a professor.
05:18I thought,
05:19OK, Discover Excursions
05:21and Manuel White are associated with the university.
05:25And here is where we are going
05:27and we want to take another trip.
05:30Well, I would never have imagined
05:31what really happened.
05:34Manuel said,
05:35We are traveling to the lakes and Marruecos.
05:39We are doing everything for you.
05:41And we also have, every night,
05:44an activity.
05:50He had a party at the office.
05:54Something very informal.
06:00Manu would host free sangria nights
06:05for the study abroad students.
06:09Where the office was open
06:11and we would just go
06:14and drink as much sangria
06:16as we wanted.
06:19It seemed like he was creating friendships
06:22with everyone.
06:24I spent,
06:25I spent,
06:27I spent many nights there.
06:31Manuel Blanco
06:32is a person
06:33a great acquaintance
06:35of the night
06:37sevillian
06:37at least
06:38from the student area.
06:39Alfa,
06:40Alfa,
06:40Cuesta del Rosario,
06:42Calle Betis,
06:43Alameda de Hércules.
06:45He went to all those places
06:46with the American students.
07:00Even in the office
07:02the book of the trip
07:03of the Viaje agency
07:06the coast of Seville
07:07an exit plan
07:07of the arrival
07:07of Sevilla
07:08that
07:09would not resist
07:09the most
07:11most-marchist body
07:12all day.
07:14Lunes en Calle Betis, martes en Alfalfa, miércoles fútbol, y jueves en la discoteca en Buda.
07:27Sentía que tenía una inn, puedo llegar a Buda, no necesito pagar.
07:32Entonces muchas chicas siempre repiten este horario cada semana,
07:39porque si no tienes algo para hacer, tienes este plan.
07:45Whenever there was an event at a bar or a discoteca that was geared towards study abroad students, he was
07:55there.
08:00Manu was like a man about town. He was handsome. He knew everyone.
08:09And every bar we walked into, every restaurant we walked into, he would clap the bartender on the back.
08:18It was very clear that he knew everyone that we were interacting with.
08:28I don't remember if he used Manuel White or Manuel Blanco.
08:32I think he put it in English, but I don't really know why.
08:40I just remember, at some point in the welcome party, meeting him with some of my friends.
08:47He just was like fairly charismatic, talkative, kind of a playful sort of personality.
09:01Manuel Blanco se llega a presentar como el príncipe de Sevilla.
09:06Después de una pista de cómo era este personaje, o de cómo es este personaje.
09:11Tenía mucho poder y conexiones, pero también sentía algo que este hombre no tiene una alma, su onda fue un
09:20poco rara.
09:27Luego también hacía una serie de actividades como rifas de viajes.
09:36Manuel estaba en la fiesta de la rifa y estaba regalando los viajes.
09:45Fueron entregando como papelitos.
09:50Y yo recibí el mío como sin pensarlo, porque no había pagado para una rifa, nada así.
09:58Y como unos minutos, una hora después, por ahí, llegó alguien, me miró el número y dijo, ganaste.
10:05Y yo como, bueno, que gané.
10:09Y me dijo, ganaste un viaje gratis a Lagos, Portugal.
10:16Siempre eran chicas muy monas las que eran agraciadas, nunca le tocó a un chaval.
10:21Y mis papás me dijeron como, no creo que sea una buena idea.
10:39Para mí, encontrar estas mujeres cambió mi química cerebro.
10:43Y me dijo, no sé si es lo que sea, no sé si erra.
10:53Entonces, mi mamá quedé en el curso.
10:55Y yo empecé a hacer un trabajo para los investigadores,
11:07I was an art student, like I didn't know anything, and so my dad created this Excel sheet for
11:12me, added the dates, how many were inappropriately touched, how many did he try to kiss, how
11:27many did he try to corner in a bathroom, how many did he rape, all the different things
11:33I started to try to get organized.
11:36I was like the administrator, the public kind of outreach, organizing everything, and I refused
11:47to let anyone help me because I felt like that would be a breach of their trust, so then
11:53I just had to work on all of it by myself.
11:57It was very taxing for Gabrielle.
12:00She would say at least three or four times a week, for months and months, she'd be like,
12:04I have to get on a call with somebody.
12:06And she would go in the room, close the door, and come back out and she would say, he raped
12:12that girl, or he, you know, tried to rape her, or he did this to her, that to her, it
12:17was
12:17like, you know, but always the same scenario.
12:27I don't think I was the first.
12:28I don't know that for sure, but the system was already in place.
12:50I think that he had been doing this for a long time before I got there.
13:06I think it was about the last week that I was in Spain that he started texting me and they
13:16were very flirtatious, I mean, pretty direct, let's get together texts.
13:25As far as I was concerned, this was a friend.
13:42Manuel texted me either on Facebook or WhatsApp and had basically said, like, we could meet
13:51here and have some free drinks or have a night out, and then me and my female roommate and
13:59our other friend, we met Manuel.
14:21It was really dead outside.
14:25We were walking along the river, kind of on the main Sevilla side towards the Torre de Oro.
14:39It was pretty dark.
14:45And this man in a motorcycle cuts in front of us and he's in, like, all black, black helmet.
14:59He kept walking to us with his helmet on and he takes his helmet off and he's like, girls,
15:07it's Manu, like, I'm joking.
15:10And we were like, oh my God, Manu, you scared us.
15:13And he was like, well, why don't you come and have a drink with me at the Phoenix.
15:41And so we were there and we, like, had a few shots of tequila, but they were, like, baby
15:48shots, so it was fine.
15:57He was flirting with this friend that I was with and I was kind of, like, trying to be
16:01a good wing woman.
16:02And I was like, he was like, let's go back to my apartment.
16:04We can play guitar and, like, hang out for a bit.
16:09And I was kind of like, all right, like, went insane.
16:14I was nervous to meet him alone.
16:19So I brought my best friend with me and he picked us up on his Vespa.
16:28And he drove us to his apartment.
16:34At some point, he invited me and my friends back to his apartment.
16:41And then, yeah, that's where things get really blurry and where I have a lot of trouble remembering.
16:54From what I can remember, when you get into Manu's apartment, you walk into that and there
16:59might have been, like, a little, like, living room to the left.
17:06There was a balcony.
17:08So, like, sliding glass doors.
17:14He opened two Coronas.
17:18And he had to sit on his bed with him.
17:31He and my friend were sitting together.
17:34And so we, um, he was playing guitar with this friend.
17:39And I was just kind of sitting there.
17:41Like, he clearly wasn't interested in me, which was fine.
17:44I know for the majority, it was only the three of us girls and Manuel at his apartment.
17:55I remember, um, my roommate at the time, she was, like, getting sick.
18:05I think at a certain point, Manuel got, um, a taxi for my sick roommate to go home.
18:14But I, I don't remember too much.
18:25And he was like, let's play a game.
18:28He was getting very touchy.
18:30I remember his hand on my thigh.
18:33And he was encouraging, I can't remember whether it was directly or not, to have a threesome.
18:39I didn't feel comfortable.
18:42Like, I wasn't, I didn't really feel safe.
18:48I just remember feeling, like, really heavy.
18:52Like, I, like, couldn't really, like, move with, like, much, like, confidence.
18:59And, like, kind of just, like, fell into his bed and, like, fell asleep.
19:12I just remember, like, little pieces, like, I remember, like, a door slamming.
19:17And I remember, um, my other friend and Manuel kissing.
19:22And I think I remember Manuel kissing me.
19:26But I don't remember, like, the sequence of events, really.
19:34It's just, like, little flashes and little moments.
19:41And I wake up to Manu saying, your friend's left.
19:45Can you give me a hand job?
19:48We finished our beers.
19:50And I was like, I think we have to go.
19:56And he was like, no, no, no.
19:58Just stay for one more drink.
20:01I gave him a hand job with, like, my arm behind my back.
20:04Like, not even looking at him.
20:06I just kind of felt, like, let's get through this.
20:11Like, I just need to, like, have this happen.
20:13And then this will be over.
20:17And I remember him trying to block the door.
20:21And then he said, are you going to leave me with blue balls?
20:26By the grace of God, I don't know how my phone ended up in bed with us.
20:30Or, like, how I heard it.
20:34But I heard my phone and I picked it up.
20:38He, like, moved enough for us to get out of the apartment.
20:42And I just remember, like, I felt like I flew down the stairs.
20:49My friend was like, where are you?
20:52And I, like, couldn't form words and gave the phone to Manu.
20:56And he was like, oh, she's fine.
20:59And thankfully, my friend was like, no, like, I'm coming to get her.
21:03Like, text me your address.
21:06I remember afterwards walking home, trying to find something familiar
21:10and just being like, that was weird.
21:14But I guess it's a Spanish man thing.
21:19I just, like, literally left the house.
21:24And my friend brings me back to my apartment.
21:28I knew I was, like, safe.
21:30And I was like, I can, I can go to bed.
21:31I slept and, like, slept the rest of the day.
21:50When I woke up, no one else was there.
21:54I was completely alone with Manuel.
21:56And I was completely naked in the bed next to Manuel.
22:01And Manuel was also naked in bed next to me.
22:05I just remember, like, spiraling because I didn't have any memory
22:11of taking off my clothes or of him taking them off.
22:17And I just remember being, like, frozen and, like, like, what the hell happened, basically.
22:28My whole body felt, like, heavy and I couldn't move.
22:33And then Manuel, like, rolling over and assaulting me.
22:39And I remember that, like, really clearly and just, like, laying there
22:46and not being able to really move or get him off.
22:51And then it was just him doing whatever he wanted.
23:08I remember just, like, not knowing what to do.
23:12And so I, like, got dressed really quickly.
23:18And then I just went downstairs and went back to the Residencia.
23:29I never talked about it with anyone except the two girls that were implicated.
23:39And also, yeah, I just felt, I think, so, yeah, nervous and ashamed
23:47and helpless at that point in time.
24:13Yeah, there was a, there was definitely a pattern that was established.
24:19Young women who are very vulnerable, who are in a place where they don't speak the language,
24:25who are in a place where they need someone to trust, they need someone to kind of guide them.
24:30I started to realize that it wasn't just rape.
24:33Like, it was anything this fucker could get from these girls he did.
24:39It was expanding and expanding.
24:41The story just kept getting bigger.
24:47And I remember I got a direct message on Facebook.
24:52And then the second Carrie came into the picture and told me about Lauren,
25:00it was like one of those moments where I had no idea what I was involved in.
25:07I mean, at the time, I didn't know what happened.
25:10All I heard was, he killed my daughter.
25:17It's terrifying.
25:36I was in my mom's apartment when I would get a message from Carrie Bajorek.
25:47Sarah, it's Lauren Bajorek's mother.
25:50There's been a tragedy with Lauren.
25:52If you have a chance, please call me.
25:59I can't remember exactly what she told me, but it was whatever the basics,
26:04like she had fallen from a man's apartment balcony.
26:11That she had fallen and that she had died.
26:17I was the person that she knew because Lauren and I coordinated our trip to Spain for the summer.
26:24And we went on the trip to Lagos, Portugal, with Discover excursions.
26:53Lauren was my best friend, so sorry.
27:04That Lauren's mom, Carrie, was so important to her.
27:07And so I had to, sorry, help out.
27:10And I wasn't there, but I was still in a position to connect her with a lawyer.
27:18I talked to my host family immediately after as well, asking them if they, like, knew someone
27:23or recommended someone that can bring some light onto this.
27:30Karen Bajorek is the mother of Lauren Bajorek, the person who contacted me as a lawyer.
27:36In a terrible mental state, of absolute disorientation and absolute disperation.
27:44All this, besides, to miles of kilometers.
27:48His daughter was only daughter, she had 21 years old.
27:53She had sent her to Spain, with all the illusion that some parents would send her to a foreigner,
27:57to learn, in this case, a language.
28:00In a very few weeks, she calls her and tells her that she has died because she has fallen from
28:05the tenth floor.
28:09And, without further explanation, they give her the option to repatriate her.
28:13And that's where the story ends.
28:17So, she asked us to try to determine what were the circumstances that were facing the death of her daughter,
28:24beyond the conclusions of the autopsy, which were obvious, that it was a death by polytraumatism.
28:32Gabriel Vega denuncia that she was violated by a tourist tourist company.
28:37In 2015, two years ago, another young American woman died in the house of the same Guía Empresario denunciado.
28:46Hombre, no es casualidad.
28:51The police did an analysis of the existence or not of the holes in the wall that there was in
28:59the terrace.
29:02It was a very small, very small, of an height of 80 cm,
29:05which becomes a very dangerous wall in a tenth floor,
29:08because with 80 cm, you approach it and you reach your knees.
29:11So, as you climb a little, you go down.
29:13And the wall, logically, had a metal and wood protection throughout the attic,
29:19except in a extreme, where the protection had been removed,
29:26which coincided with the extreme of the attic, where there was a jacuzzi without water.
29:31And they were removed.
29:33Or, rather, they didn't find holes,
29:34which led to the police to avoid that Loren Bayorek
29:37would have been sitting on the wall,
29:40because there were no holes of piercings or hands.
29:44It is to say, their fall was from the interior of the terrace to the outside, directly.
29:51It is compatible with a push-up, and it is also compatible with an accident,
29:55since the wall was only 80 cm.
29:58It is compatible with the two hypotheses.
30:00In the description of the police report,
30:03there is a picture that Manuel says that he has already taken away.
30:09When you have someone who has precipitated from a tenth floor,
30:12it may be an accident, it may be a homicide, but it may be a suicide.
30:18And the police did an autopsy,
30:21based on the WhatsApps,
30:23that the same girl had sent, minutes and hours before,
30:28to her mother and her partner in the United States.
30:42And Loren dated back in college.
30:48She was just different.
30:49You know, she just always had a bubbly energy.
30:53She was very warming to everyone around her.
31:02July 19th was her birthday.
31:05I remember, you know, I mean, it was tough in ways, at least for me,
31:11you know, not being able to be there for her to celebrate.
31:15But she was definitely excited.
31:17And I was excited for her.
31:19It was definitely going to be a night of celebration.
31:22She's turning 21, which is a big deal in the United States.
31:26Yeah, it was just something that she was very much looking forward to,
31:30to celebrating with friends and with dancing.
31:35So Loren went with her friends, Sarah, Ellie, and Loren.
31:42We didn't really have, like, a plan.
31:46We were just, we went out to dinner in the centro, you know.
31:57They were at the restaurant, and...
32:04Emanuela showed up.
32:10I remember him further in the restaurant, up by the bar.
32:16And then we sat at a table, and...
32:20We saw him, or he saw us, and he came over to our table.
32:25And then he asked if we all wanted to go to Belindo.
32:30He was like, no, come with me.
32:32Like, I'm going to show you guys,
32:34I'm going to take you guys to this discotheca, and whatever.
32:36And so we just went with him, because we were like, why not?
32:45We went with him to Belindo,
32:48and we went into, like, the VIP, you know, section.
32:56And he had a bunch of drinks, and there was, like, hookah.
33:00And...
33:02That was kind of the majority of the night.
33:08We were texting the whole time during the night.
33:11And, you know, and she just kept me updated,
33:15with all the details while she was there.
33:18She said, I don't feel comfortable around him.
33:22She definitely did not like him.
33:25She wrote me a text saying that she was very drunk.
33:29And I was like, aha, great.
33:32Like...
33:34Sounds good.
33:40I think they had a couple of drinks.
33:44And then I think it was Ellie, and then her friends left to go home.
33:56Ellie was sick.
33:58And it was 3 in the morning.
34:01Ellie was like, I don't feel good.
34:04It was not a normal feeling, I feel like, that night.
34:08Like, I don't...
34:09Looking back, like, I remember afterwards, I'm like, did...
34:12I wonder if there was something in the drinks or what?
34:15Because he was giving us all of the drinks,
34:17and they were all up there in the VIP section.
34:23And we talked to Lauren and Sarah, and they didn't want to leave yet.
34:27I was like, well, I'll go with Ellie.
34:29I'll walk Ellie home and make sure she gets home.
34:30And then I walked home.
34:32But I do remember saying goodbye to Lauren.
34:36And she was, like, very intoxicated.
34:42And Sarah was also intoxicated.
34:47Obviously, looking back, I shouldn't have left her.
34:59But I just, you know, made a mistake.
35:11For some reason, they ended up going to his house.
35:16I'm not sure what he said exactly to get them there,
35:18but it's a bit surprising that she would have done that.
35:23And that Sarah C would have done that, too.
35:25Given that neither of them was interested in Manu.
35:31It didn't fit.
35:34I was receiving things that didn't make sense
35:36in terms of, like, drivers.
35:39I thought that was weird.
35:41I was wondering if she herself got drugged or something.
35:45At one point, she said that...
35:49She missed me, and then, like, I answered back,
35:51and then I didn't get any response from there.
36:01The police said that it would have been a suicide.
36:04The police said that it would have been a suicide.
36:05Therefore, there were only two options.
36:06Either it was an accident or a homicide.
36:09What happened in that attic,
36:11only two people were alive.
36:14They were Manuel Blancovela and Sarah.
36:37She said they got to his house and she said they were standing around for a little while.
36:51went out on the balcony.
36:57They had all been on the balcony, but Lauren stayed inside, like, a jacuzzi that was empty on the balcony.
37:08Sarah and Manu had gone inside to get water.
37:21And then they heard a noise.
37:25And so then they went out there and she was on the ground, off the balcony.
37:35I never have, like, pushed more on Sarah to give me more details of that night because it was so
37:43traumatic for her and awful.
37:45And I know you probably, like, she probably doesn't even remember half of it either because she was so wasted.
37:50It was such a blur and then the trauma on top of all of that.
37:53Looking back, it just feels like a really weird story.
37:57It feels like Sarah.
38:02I want to say this without saying that Sarah, Sarah did not have anything to do with this.
38:10Sarah is very much a victim, but I think that she was also trying to protect herself in telling a
38:19story that was kind of vague.
38:22I believe the story, I just think there were a lot more details that maybe weren't told.
38:28Some of it's kind of a blur.
38:33I think it was, like, three days I didn't sleep for a while.
38:36Just, like, everything was keeping me up.
38:42It was tough.
38:46You know, so much of my life was taking away from me, like, once.
38:58When the accident happened, although it seemed like it was a accidental accident,
39:02they didn't allow me to do the alcohol test to both Manuel Blanco and Sarah.
39:12This is produced two hours more or less after the accident.
39:16Sarah was at 0.48, if you remember.
39:19It was more or less of an alcohol level.
39:22It was higher.
39:23Loren Bayorek gave a result of alcohol in blood of 2,99 grams per litre of blood.
39:30That alcohol was close to the etilical coma.
39:34In the words of the forense, with 2,9 grams of alcohol,
39:39one is either dead or unconscious.
39:44And Manuel gave 0.0.
39:490.0.
39:51It is to say, he took them to the two of the party,
39:54both drinking one of them until the point of getting to the etilical coma,
39:58and he gave 0.0.
39:59It is to say, he had control of the situation at all times.
40:03They didn't find any alcohol in Manu's,
40:07which was weird because he was at the clubs with them.
40:11I think Manuel is a depredator.
40:14Is a depredator.
40:16Is a cazador.
40:18I think that night, he came out to caza
40:20and he had the attitude that the depredators have.
40:23It is to say, a plan, a strategy
40:25and the patience that the depredators have.
40:29He took hours to end where he wanted to end
40:33and in the situation that he wanted to end.
40:35It was at 5 o'clock in the morning in his attic
40:38with two girls absolutely, in fact,
40:44as a consequence of the drink,
40:45at least of alcohol.
40:49And he 0.0.
40:51Those are the facts.
40:52And we've been doing it all.
40:58It's not a problem.
41:00I'm not sure what it is.
41:05I'm not sure what it is.
41:07I'm not sure what it is.
41:09I'm not sure what it is.
41:11I just need to call it,
41:14because I have no idea what it is.
41:17I'm not sure what it is.
41:19and I realized how I could have been very easily.
41:34When I looked at the photos of that time,
41:37I was very vulnerable.
41:38We were all very vulnerable.
41:41And we didn't realize that.
41:45But Manuel saw it.
41:55When the new group of students arrived,
41:58they said,
41:59we heard that a girl died.
42:01What happened?
42:02And I told them,
42:04don't go on a trip with Manuel White.
42:07Don't trust that guy.
42:09I don't know what happened there,
42:11but there was something strange.
42:19When Karey Bayorek was working on the issue,
42:23the case,
42:24the case,
42:24the case,
42:25the case was archived.
42:27The judge of instruction in Sevilla,
42:29without any other investigation,
42:32he agreed to the archive saying
42:33that there was no sufficient evidence
42:34to continue investigating.
42:36But in my opinion,
42:37it was absolutely precipitated and unjustified.
42:41There were no elements
42:42to discard absolutely nothing.
42:45Without taking a declaration
42:46to a witness,
42:47he archived the procedure.
42:48And at a few hours,
42:49they mounted it in an airplane
42:50and took it to the United States.
42:52So,
42:53that was also called the attention.
43:03We explained to him
43:04that the penal route
43:05was closed
43:06and there was no possibility
43:08to reopen it,
43:10but there was a possibility
43:11through the civil route
43:14and that was the charge,
43:16that was the charge,
43:16that was what we did
43:16and that was the trial
43:17we went to Sevilla.
43:23A few days before the trial
43:24was celebrated,
43:26the mother of Lauren,
43:27Caraiva Llorek,
43:28told me that she was dying
43:30and told me that I was going to wait
43:32until the trial ended
43:34and we had a sentence.
43:36And so it was.
43:37The judge tested the demand,
43:39gave us the reason,
43:41established that there was
43:43a responsibility
43:44for negligence
43:46by the part of Manuel
43:47and established
43:48an indemnization
43:48that was established
43:49in 70.000 euros.
43:53I communicated the sentence
43:54and in a few days
43:55he died.
43:58He felt relieved
43:59in the sense of
43:59knowing part
44:01of what had happened.
44:02But, of course,
44:02what he wanted,
44:03the sentence
44:04could not give him.
44:13the empathy you feel
44:14for that mother
44:15is just horrendous.
44:18And that mother
44:18was, like,
44:19so alone in it,
44:21you know?
44:21And that's what
44:22I just kept thinking of
44:23is, like,
44:23how alone she was.
44:24And she was desperate.
44:26Um, she was desperate
44:28to, to get this story out
44:31and to get justice
44:32for Lauren.
44:32And I said to Gabrielle,
44:33just today, I said,
44:34can you imagine
44:36being her mother
44:37and seeing you
44:37on the Megyn Kelly show
44:39and the realization,
44:40like, this is
44:41a serious predator?
44:51This motherfucker
44:52was walking down
44:53the street,
44:54getting his fucking
44:55tapas and copas
44:57and doing whatever
44:57the fuck he wanted
44:58to do,
44:58and you guys did nothing?
45:03He's still outside.
45:04He's on the street
45:04this whole time.
45:05I think I would be
45:06really upset.
45:09I had to face the fact
45:10that this person
45:10is never gonna
45:11take accountability
45:12for anything
45:13he's ever done.
45:21If that was my community,
45:22I'd be like,
45:23what the fuck?
45:29Yeah, that makes me sick
45:30that he's on the streets,
45:31that he's doing
45:32intercambios
45:33with these young girls.
45:36Look at these little kids
45:37that are going out
45:38into the world
45:39and their parents
45:40are sending them away.
45:41They think they're safe.
45:44I hate to think it,
45:46but I'm pretty sure
45:48that he hasn't stopped
45:49what he's been doing
45:50all these years.
45:53That he's laughing
45:54and smiling
45:55and going out with friends
45:56and pretending
45:57to be a person
45:58who isn't dangerous
46:00and doing exactly
46:01the opposite,
46:02telling girls
46:03that you'll be safe
46:04with me,
46:04and it just sickens me
46:08that he's still free.
46:10Nothing is happening
46:11to Manuel,
46:14and so there was almost like,
46:16what can I do?
46:16Like, what can we do
46:18to, like, make this stop?
46:21And so that's,
46:22my role was to just figure out
46:24how to do it.
46:25So it doesn't surprise me
46:27in one iota
46:29that she's determined
46:30to do this
46:31for the other girls.
46:32When she was
46:33in elementary school,
46:34anybody that was being bothered,
46:35Gabrielle was in the middle,
46:36and I remember saying to her,
46:38Gabrielle, you're a rebel
46:39without a cause.
46:40You're like James Dean,
46:42and you need to just stop it.
46:44And this is Gabrielle.
46:45I mean, it was who she is.
46:51I didn't want to do this.
46:53I don't want to go to trial.
46:56I don't want to deal with this fucking bullshit,
46:59but if there are all these other women,
47:02and this is a fucking,
47:04every semester there are new girls,
47:08I felt like I needed to do something.
47:10Suddenly, it went from,
47:11I don't want anything to do,
47:13I'm not prosecuting,
47:14I don't want to talk about it.
47:16It went from that to,
47:17we have to do something.
47:20So, this is just like the beginning.
47:23It was the beginning for the both of us.
47:25For him and me.
47:40Yes.
47:40As accused in this trial,
47:42you have no confess,
47:44you're guilty,
47:44you don't want to be guilty,
47:46you don't want to be guilty,
47:46you don't want to be guilty.
47:48Do you want to say something to the victims?
47:49Hey, don't touch me.
47:51Well, I'm talking about it.
47:52If they don't know each other,
47:54how do they coincide all the declarations?
47:57I don't have anything to do with those facts.
47:58I don't have any kind of relationship with that person
48:00on the trip.
48:01I don't do anything.
48:29I don't do anything.
48:32I don't do anything
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