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00:00We all want simple ways to feel better.
00:04Maybe you want to know how to kickstart your day.
00:07Or perhaps you're having trouble remembering things.
00:10Maybe you want something to lift your mood.
00:15Following in the footsteps of Dr. Michael Mosley in his hit podcast, Just One Thing.
00:20We're traveling across the country.
00:23Ta-da!
00:24This is going to be good for you.
00:26I'm really excited for this.
00:27Asking people to make one small change for big benefits.
00:32Any idea what it is?
00:33I haven't got a clue.
00:35I haven't done gardening before, but it's the first time for everything.
00:39Sharing the quick and easy ways we can all improve our lives.
00:43Oh, yeah!
00:45By doing just one thing.
00:47I feel so happy that we're doing this.
00:49I can't believe how much it has changed my life.
01:00This time, I'm in a city famous for its medieval walls and the World Heritage Site Cathedral.
01:07It's Canterbury.
01:10And all around, there are people reducing their stress levels and potentially lowering their risk of heart disease by doing
01:17just one thing.
01:18What is this rather wonderful health-boosting activity?
01:23I'll give you a hint.
01:24It can have a wagging tail.
01:27It's having a pet.
01:30Owning a pet can do wonders for your health.
01:33And if, like me, you're a little bit busy and it's tricky having a pet full-time, then you can
01:37do the next best thing.
01:38Borrow one.
01:40That's right.
01:41Just spending time with animals can give you some of the same health benefits without the huge responsibility that comes
01:47with being an owner.
01:50So, I'm meeting travel agent Tracy to find out if borrowing a pet is the just one thing for her.
01:56Hello.
01:57I'm Clive.
01:58It's good to see you.
01:59Lovely to meet you.
02:00Oh, what a glorious day we've got.
02:01No, absolutely beautiful.
02:03I hear you're looking to make some healthy changes to your life.
02:06My blood pressure goes sort of up and down.
02:09Right.
02:09And the doctors ask me to monitor my blood pressure.
02:13Mm-hmm.
02:13And it does.
02:14It just changes.
02:15It fluctuates.
02:16It fluctuates.
02:17Right.
02:17It doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason.
02:19So, you lead a stressful life, do you?
02:20Yeah.
02:21I've got my own travel business and that can be stressful.
02:24I have an elderly mum and obviously she's poorly.
02:28Right.
02:28So, you're a carer as well.
02:29Yes, I care for mum.
02:32Mum is 92.
02:34She won't mind me saying that now.
02:36A year ago she wouldn't have liked that.
02:39But she's in her home still, which is amazing.
02:42And she's a massive part of my life.
02:45As the years are going on, she needs more care.
02:48I spend as much time as I can with her.
02:52I get back home and then I go in my office.
02:55There's a lot going on in my life.
02:57I've always been a wee bit like that, I guess.
03:01Friends say to me, Tracy, how do you do all of this?
03:04I'm selling my house at the moment as well.
03:06I'm finding that a bit stressful, to be honest with you.
03:09While busy caring for others, Tracy hadn't realised her own health was at risk.
03:14Until a routine appointment identified her high blood pressure.
03:18I was really shocked.
03:20I was really shocked.
03:21I thought, God, that's not me.
03:23The doctor called me and she said,
03:26if you stay on this path, it can be incredibly dangerous.
03:31High blood pressure can lead to heart attacks and strokes.
03:34Tracy may have to take medication to manage it, but lifestyle changes can help.
03:40I run up and down my garden every day and I do weights every morning.
03:45Having high blood pressure, yeah, I really don't like it.
03:49I would like to really try and reduce it naturally if I can.
03:54I lead a busy life as well and my blood pressure is slightly elevated.
03:59I mean, it can be genetic.
03:59Yes, of course.
04:00But you'd be surprised how just a few small changes can lead to big benefits.
04:05Yes, absolutely.
04:07Do you want to know what your just one thing is?
04:09I think so, Clive.
04:12Because we're going to start today in this very park.
04:14Right, OK.
04:15OK, well, I'd like to introduce you to someone very, very special.
04:20Right, OK.
04:22And here he comes now.
04:25Have a look.
04:27Oh, OK.
04:30On the right, that's Ozzy.
04:32Oh, look.
04:34With Sharon and Amy.
04:36Oh, look at him.
04:38Isn't he cute?
04:39Hello, gorgeous.
04:40I love your scarf.
04:43Beautiful, isn't it?
04:44I love your scarf.
04:45Well, we're hoping that you're going to borrow a little Ozzy for a wee while.
04:50Right.
04:50Walkies three times a week.
04:52OK, OK.
04:54And we'll see what the effect might be on your general health.
04:57Because having a pet has been proven to lower stress levels.
05:01Yes.
05:02What do you reckon?
05:03Yes, certainly.
05:05Worth a go?
05:05Definitely worth a go.
05:08One of the obvious health benefits of caring for a dog is walkies.
05:13Regular brisk walking can help lower blood pressure.
05:17And a study showed elderly people with heart failure who were given a dog walked almost twice as far as
05:23those who walked alone.
05:25Hey, good boy.
05:29But for their first stroll, Tracy is taking it one step at a time, under owner Sharon's guidance.
05:35He's quite happy, isn't he?
05:38Oh, good boy.
05:39Oh, good boy.
05:40So how was it?
05:41It was gorgeous.
05:42Yeah?
05:42He's gorgeous.
05:44OK, so you're happy borrowing a pet is your just one thing.
05:47Yeah, very happy.
05:48That's a lovely thing to do.
05:50We've matched Tracy and Ozzy through an online platform that links dog lovers with local pooches.
05:56If you're thinking of becoming a dog owner, it's the perfect way to test the water.
06:01This is the app that we used to get you Ozzy.
06:04OK, very easy, isn't it?
06:06And you can pick a dog depending on where you live.
06:08So you pop in your postcode and you get the distance.
06:11He's asleep.
06:12He's had enough.
06:13It's funny, isn't it?
06:14All the scrolling up on screen.
06:16It's like Tinder for dogs.
06:19There you go.
06:20Oh, look at that boy.
06:20Oh, look at him.
06:22It's even lovely just scrolling through and looking at them, isn't it?
06:25You're right, yeah.
06:27Tracy is not wrong.
06:28A study found that watching a video of a dog for five minutes was enough to significantly reduce stress levels.
06:35And I can see why.
06:37Oh, that is a cutie.
06:42I think I'm going to have a lovely time.
06:44I think it will help me think about having time for me.
06:50I think Tracy's going to get a lot out of this.
06:53There seems to be a rapport between the two of them instantly.
06:56Fingers crossed over the next few weeks.
06:58Walking the dog, she'll be taking in the air.
07:01It'll be healthy for her.
07:02And her stress levels might, in fact, come down.
07:05Tracy's just one thing.
07:07Borrowing a dog could be just the thing.
07:12So what's the evidence that pets can be good for us?
07:15First, they could reduce Tracy's stress levels.
07:18In one study, people given a stress test found an unfamiliar dog a more relaxing presence than a friend.
07:26Pets could also be good for her heart health.
07:29Incredibly, dog owners have a 31% lower risk of death from cardiovascular disease.
07:36And people in a nursing home who were visited by a cat three times a week had significantly lower blood
07:43pressure after six weeks compared to those who didn't get a visit.
07:51But it's not just cats and dogs.
07:54Interactions with all sorts of animals can also have a calming effect.
08:00So I've arranged a bit of a field trip where Tracy can meet a variety of furry friends.
08:06And speaking of friends, she's roped in three of her own.
08:11Tracer, Linda and Tina have also agreed to take on this challenge without knowing what they've signed up for.
08:18Now that's friendship.
08:19Good to see you.
08:21You're all right.
08:21Hello.
08:22Hiya.
08:22You're all right.
08:23How are you, Clive?
08:23Well, it's great that you're here supporting your friend Tracy.
08:27With just one thing.
08:29Yes.
08:29With just one thing.
08:30Now, the aim is to try to help Tracy improve her mental health, bring down her blood pressure a little
08:38bit, and just feel a little bit more relaxed, de-stressed.
08:42And you're going to help her.
08:44Okay.
08:45And that involves just one thing.
08:48Any idea what it is?
08:49I haven't got a clue.
08:52Well, it is spending time with pets.
08:56Oh, okay.
08:57Yeah.
08:58Sounded okay?
08:59Sounds good.
08:59You think?
09:01Do we pet them or do we have to clean them out?
09:03You can...
09:03Oh.
09:05Cleaning them out might actually raise your stress levels.
09:09So you're up for the challenge?
09:10Yeah.
09:11Yes?
09:11Yeah, I think it's good, yes.
09:13Bring on the tigers.
09:16Bring on the tigers.
09:19Don't worry.
09:20Only friendly felines here, as well as rabbits, guinea pigs and chickens, to name a few.
09:26Foal Farm has been rescuing and rehoming animals for over 60 years, and Ali is going to introduce
09:32us to some that are still in their care.
09:35This is where we keep all of our rabbits, and we've obviously also got Gloria in here, as
09:39well as Penny and Sunshine the turkey.
09:41Aw.
09:42So, yeah, if you want to come round and meet some of the rabbits, then you're more than
09:44welcome to.
09:45Lovely.
09:48Today, I didn't really know what to expect.
09:51It is exciting to be helping Tracy and to be trying something different.
09:55Coming this way, we thought it was going to be wing walking, because we were coming towards
09:59an airport.
10:00When I arrived at the farm, I just thought, thank goodness I bought my boots and my hat.
10:04To be honest, I had no expectations, but it certainly wasn't this.
10:08Some of the group may be on the fence, but I'm sure these cuties can convince them otherwise.
10:14Oh!
10:17Over half of UK adults own a pet, but it comes with a lot of commitment and responsibility.
10:22If you're thinking about becoming an owner, reaching out to a rehoming centre like this
10:27one is a great place to start.
10:29It's really lovely.
10:30I'd rather be doing this than working.
10:33I was going to say.
10:35I don't get a lot of time, and it makes you realise that.
10:38But when you're here, you kind of forget the time.
10:40Yeah.
10:40Don't you?
10:41Exactly.
10:42It's important, isn't it?
10:43The minutes just tick by, don't they?
10:45Definitely.
10:46It's lovely to have my friends here today.
10:50And we've just been talking ourselves just now about slowing down, having time.
10:57The person that will find it most challenging is Tracer.
11:01She hasn't got a lot of time to herself.
11:04I'd say for now, she's definitely embracing it.
11:07It's chick-a-chick, chick-a-chick, chick-a-chick.
11:26This will definitely reduce your high blood pressure, Penny.
11:30Yes.
11:32They are beautiful.
11:33Oh, gosh, I've got both of them.
11:35You need to come this side.
11:36So how are you finding it?
11:38Like I've forgotten everything else at the moment going on in the world, in life.
11:42Yeah, honestly, you're just focusing on this.
11:44Yeah.
11:44It's really, really, really lovely.
11:49I am excited by the Just One Thing, but I do have a busy, stressful life.
11:53Whoever said that life slows down as you get older was totally incorrect,
11:58because I think life speeds up as you get older.
12:00And I think that, you know, just life in general is just really busy.
12:05But for now, they're all on board with this Just One Thing,
12:09in support of their friend, Tracey.
12:11Oh, hello.
12:13Tracey is a lovely, lovely lady, and she spends a lot of time helping people.
12:19So she really needs to slow down and take time for herself.
12:29My friends I know are concerned about my health.
12:33That is really important, knowing that they're, you know,
12:38rooting for me to reduce my blood pressure in a way I want to.
12:42And family tragedy is also weighing on her mind.
12:46My dad, unfortunately, died on the golf course at 57,
12:51just dropped down dead, just like that.
12:53So, of course, I worry about that.
12:56You know, it is...
12:57I don't know if it's a hereditary thing in the family, but, yeah.
13:02So that's been a massive hole in our family.
13:08Now more than ever, Tracey wants to be fit and healthy,
13:11as her daughter Hannah recently shared exciting news.
13:15I'm going to become a nana, nanny, granny, whatever they want to call me.
13:21I want to be a fit and well person for my grandchild, definitely.
13:28Let's hope borrowing a pet can help Tracey achieve those health goals.
13:34There are so many ways the group can take on this challenge.
13:38Whether it's pet-sitting for a friend or, like me,
13:41they can visit an animal in the family.
13:43This is my sister-in-law's cat, Binks.
13:46My wife and I, we had two cats.
13:50Rufus, a big ginger tabby, a bobble,
13:53a wee little black and white thing.
13:56And they died maybe 10 years ago.
13:59But we didn't replace them because it felt a bit unfair
14:02with all the traveling that we were doing in our lives.
14:06But if you can borrow a pet,
14:09then that's a whole different kettle of fish.
14:13And the idea that animals could help us stay healthy,
14:17it's not exactly new.
14:20Back in the 1850s, Florence Nightingale,
14:22the founder of modern nursing,
14:25she realized how important animals could be.
14:28Noting that small pets in hospital wards
14:31were excellent companions for ill patients.
14:35And look at this one.
14:38Always purring now.
14:42As for Tracy, her challenge is well underway
14:44and she is about to take the next step,
14:47embarking on her first solo walk with Ozzy.
14:50I've just left Chris and Sharon, Ozzy's owners.
14:54I've got the poo bags and I've got the treats.
14:57And we're just getting to know each other,
14:59walking along the beach, but he's lovely.
15:02Come on then, let's go this way, shall we?
15:04Come on then, come on Ozzy, let's go this way.
15:08That's a good boy.
15:10Yeah?
15:12Meanwhile, some of Tracy's friends
15:14are also embracing the challenge.
15:16Making you nervous alone.
15:22Linda has been volunteering at the local RSPCA.
15:25They're gorgeous.
15:27How could someone abandon them?
15:30They're moving around, don't they?
15:35Who's crying?
15:36You want to cuddle, do you?
15:40And Tina has joined her.
15:43Oh gorgeous, come on then.
15:46Are you going to come up?
15:48You look handsome.
15:50Little moustache, look at that.
15:52No sign of busy Tracer though,
15:54which is a shame because the others
15:55are already feeling the benefits.
15:58I've just come out from seeing little Bean.
16:00I actually feel quite sleepy.
16:02It's been wonderful to spend time with the animals.
16:05It's just really calming and just really relaxing
16:07and very therapeutic.
16:10Wonderful.
16:11Yep.
16:12To be out in nature
16:13and to be in my favourite place in the world
16:16is just gorgeous.
16:18I just feel really happy.
16:20Really happy.
16:21Oh, you've been such a good boy.
16:23You really have.
16:26Let's go this way now, shall we?
16:28I think Clive would be very proud of me.
16:33To help keep everyone on track
16:35with their Just One Thing challenge,
16:37I've arranged another surprise for Tracey and her group.
16:41Horses!
16:42Wow.
16:44They say that you should do something every day
16:47that comes out of your comfort zone, don't they?
16:50This is Thanet Disabled Riding Centre.
16:53It runs horse care and riding sessions
16:56for people with disabilities.
16:58Here volunteers muck out, groom
17:00and spend time with their ponies.
17:03Today Holly is going to put our lot to work.
17:05You're here today to do some jobs, get stuck in,
17:08meet our ponies, spend some lovely time with them.
17:11Do you have any questions at all?
17:13When you spend time with horses,
17:16is your mental health better?
17:18So, from like a personal experience,
17:21for your mental health I think it's one of the best things.
17:23Like, if I'm having a bad day, I'm like,
17:24I'm going to go to the stables.
17:25They don't talk back, so it's really nice to just talk to them.
17:28And they listen to my troubles on a daily.
17:30Oh.
17:31And I don't feel judged and it's great.
17:34Tracy, take that ball and we'll go through, guys.
17:38Oh, looks like chilli con carne.
17:42Horses are particularly sensitive to human emotions,
17:45which is one of the reasons they're often included in therapy programmes.
17:49Oh, you like that, don't you?
17:51Studies have shown this approach can help with mental health conditions.
17:55But a survey has also suggested that horse riding
17:58could reduce feelings of depression.
18:01Just gently?
18:02Yeah, just nice and gently over.
18:03And these horses do need some exercise,
18:06so it's time for Tracy and Tina to saddle up.
18:09You both look gorgeous.
18:10You do look gorgeous.
18:12You do.
18:16But the group are here to work,
18:18so it can't be glamour for everyone.
18:20You're poo-picking for us?
18:21Oh, that's the way it's shoveling away.
18:24This is what we're here for.
18:25Sorry, there's plenty of stuff over there for you guys.
18:28How is this good for my health, Holly?
18:29Clears your nose.
18:30Think of the workout, Tracer.
18:32Horse riding and activities like mucking out
18:35are classed as moderate intensity exercise,
18:38which we should all do for 150 minutes per week.
18:42So, keep up that shoveling.
18:44Don't you have to get every little bit here?
18:48That's it.
18:51It's high up here.
18:55Don't worry, Tracy.
18:56I hear it's just like riding a horse.
18:59You're looking really good, girl.
19:01You look very relaxed.
19:02Gorgeous.
19:03Very relaxed.
19:04You're really looking relaxed into it.
19:06Does it feel nice? Does it feel good?
19:07Yeah, it does.
19:09And it is really nice.
19:10Like, it's the man you've had a really stressful day
19:13and you just come sit in the saddle and it's like,
19:15oh, everything disappears.
19:16I can totally understand that.
19:18Oh, Bertie's going to go to the toilet.
19:20Oh, yeah, he is.
19:22Oh, thanks, Tina.
19:23Brilliant.
19:24Oh, we've just finished it all.
19:28Thanks, Tina.
19:30That looks a bit fresh, Linda.
19:31I think it's too fresh.
19:32A bit fresh.
19:32I'm not too keen on the fresh ones.
19:35No.
19:36Let's just hope it hasn't put Tracer off for good.
19:38I think it highlights to you how we don't take time out for ourselves.
19:45I would never have come to a stable on a Saturday afternoon
19:49and shovelled horses' poop.
19:53Had a lovely, lovely afternoon and to share it with my friends as well
19:58has been, we've laughed.
19:59I'm sure it's brought my blood pressure down.
20:02Absolutely.
20:04Maybe not getting on the horse.
20:09Tracey is not the only one making new four-legged friends.
20:13This is Mia.
20:17Studies have shown that stroking an animal or just gentle play
20:21can help lower the stress-causing hormone cortisol.
20:25And if you want a real boost of the feel-good hormone oxytocin,
20:31then just look into an animal's eyes.
20:34Works like a treat.
20:36I'm not going to try that with Mia here, though,
20:38because a borrowed animal might feel stressed out by that.
20:42So the best thing to do is to just stroke them.
20:45Like this.
20:48And that will give you a hit of that feel-good hormone oxytocin.
20:56Speaking of feeling good, I wonder how our group are getting on.
21:01I've been on that prom this morning, had a lovely walk with Ozzy
21:05and he recognised me as well, bless his heart.
21:08His tail was wagging away.
21:11I've got my steps in, my blood pressure is low.
21:14I couldn't think of anything nicer.
21:18What a lovely way to start your morning before work.
21:21I'm back at the RSVCA Canterbury for a second time.
21:26It was so lovely when I came the first time.
21:29Spending time with the kittens.
21:31It's so soothing and it's good for the kittens.
21:35Most of them have been abandoned.
21:37They just need some attention.
21:38So I'm really looking forward to this.
21:41Hello.
21:42Hello, look.
21:44Hold on.
21:44Hide.
21:46Look.
21:47I've got for you.
21:49Look at that.
21:51Sounds like something like that.
21:54I do have friends and family that have animals,
21:56but coming to the RSVCA and doing volunteering
21:59feels worthwhile, actually.
22:01So I'm really pleased I was given this opportunity.
22:05Andresa has joined in too.
22:06We've just arrived at the dogs' trust.
22:09See the clue?
22:10She and Tina are volunteering to walk some of the dogs.
22:14Oh, I'm great.
22:16I'm grateful.
22:17You're gorgeous.
22:19How are you feeling, Tina?
22:21Oh, I'm great.
22:22You're the phone, isn't she?
22:23Yeah, she really is.
22:25This way.
22:26You're so lovely to have the wish as well.
22:28It's not just being with the dogs,
22:31it's being outside.
22:32Aw.
22:34We've had a lovely walk
22:36and I think we're both feeling pretty calm.
22:39So calm.
22:39Yeah?
22:40Yeah, really enjoyable.
22:42I just thought, just stroking her and petting her,
22:45it's just so relaxing.
22:46She is a sweetheart.
22:48So, Prue,
22:49point at which one you want to come home with.
22:52Oh, Tina!
22:55Oh, Prue, you're supposed to be helping us convince Trasor.
22:59They all seem to be having fun,
23:01but is it making a difference?
23:03In this couple of weeks,
23:06the Borrow My Doggy has really made me
23:11feel less stressed.
23:12And I think it's maybe because
23:14I am focusing on calming,
23:21bringing my steps up,
23:23spending a bit of time on me, maybe.
23:26We asked Tracey to track her daily steps on her phone.
23:30Before the challenge,
23:32she was averaging around 4,000 per day.
23:34But now, she's doing almost double.
23:387,065 steps.
23:40I've not got up to that in my working day before.
23:44It's just brilliant.
23:45And I think I can feel my blood pressure lowering.
23:50I really can.
23:51I feel really good about that.
23:53I'm not surprised Tracey is all smiles.
23:57The physical exercise that comes with looking after animals
24:00releases endorphins,
24:02the feel-good chemicals that help relieve pain and stress.
24:06But interacting with animals can also create a relaxation response
24:10and mood boost.
24:12One study found people who spent time with dogs
24:15had increases in the hormone phenylethylamine,
24:18a natural stimulant associated with elation and euphoria.
24:23This happened in both the humans and the dogs
24:26after just a few minutes, suggesting that the feeling is mutual.
24:33Tracey's just one thing was to borrow a pet,
24:36Ozzy the dog.
24:37She wanted to take the lead on her health
24:40and find a way to reduce stress
24:42and work towards lowering her blood pressure.
24:45Right, I think we all deserve cake.
24:48Her best friends took on the challenge with her
24:50and it's pats on the back all round.
24:53But I'm keen to know if they'll be keeping it up.
24:56You're just a star, you are.
24:58Have you enjoyed having Ozzy Tracey?
25:00It's been absolutely gorgeous.
25:02You're a good boy, I'm talking about you.
25:04It's slowing you down a bit.
25:05Yes, absolutely.
25:07Linda, you're always saying that to me.
25:09You look calmer, you really do Tracey.
25:12I really can feel my blood pressure has gone down.
25:15I've loved every minute of it.
25:17Has it?
25:18Definitely, I'm going to carry on, it's lovely.
25:21Linda, are you going to keep up the just one thing?
25:24I will.
25:25Animals make you stop and think.
25:28It's a lovely feeling.
25:29And I find even with the horses,
25:31shoveling that we do.
25:32Did you keep shoveling the poop?
25:34That was quite relaxed.
25:35Was it, Linda? Was it?
25:37I think my blood pressure went up at that point.
25:41It sounds like Tracey won't be visiting the horses in a hurry.
25:44But have we persuaded her to keep up for just one thing?
25:48Having not had a dog for about 12 years now,
25:52I'm swaying and realising how much that dog used to get me out
25:57every morning come rinds, snow.
26:01So if I haven't got time to get a pet now,
26:03I think I'll go down the route you've gone and borrow one.
26:06I actually didn't think it would have this effect.
26:09So it's amazing.
26:10Oh, that's really good, Trace.
26:11Thank you, ladies.
26:12Well done, Tracey.
26:13Well done.
26:14Thank you so much for allowing me to do this.
26:17I wouldn't want to have done it with anyone else.
26:19Absolutely.
26:22But I am your favourite.
26:29It was hard.
26:31Life's just so busy.
26:33To keep it up and to make that effort
26:36to do all of those things has been a challenge,
26:39but a challenge I recognise that is very beneficial to my health.
26:43Strangely enough, my grandson keeps saying I need a dog.
26:48But it's the responsibility of 24-7, really.
26:52So to borrow a dog is a really good idea, actually.
26:56The quality of time that we've had together with the animals,
26:59it's brought us closer together, definitely,
27:01even though we're close, but just a little bit more closer
27:04and we definitely will do it again.
27:06We'll make a date, definitely.
27:08I am so pleased that I took up this challenge.
27:11It's made me really, really stop and think,
27:16gosh, Trace, you know, you only get one life.
27:19I need to be a strong person.
27:21You know, I look after mum
27:23and I've got a grandchild on the way
27:26and I want to be well for that.
27:28I want to be able to bring my granddaughter or grandson down here,
27:33go in the sea, do all of those lovely things.
27:37It's just rethinking my lifestyle.
27:41Totally. Yes, I am very committed to keep this going.
27:45And research suggests that this new routine
27:48could reduce her stress levels
27:50and improve her heart health in the longer term.
27:54Tracey, she's thoroughly enjoyed her just one thing
27:58and borrowed a pet
27:59and possibly improved her health as well.
28:03I reckon everyone should spend a little bit more time with animals
28:06because, frankly, you'd be barking mad not to.
28:11I know and that's nice to see now.
28:37But for a long time, you'll find great ideas.
28:38Thank you for turning forward,
28:42You
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