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05:27Turkey, Israel and Serbia
05:29Correct
05:30So the very fact that the
05:33Government of European and a NATO
05:35Country puts at the same
05:37Level the
05:39United States and
05:41Russia it's quite
05:43Strange I would say and
05:45I think it raises very important
05:47Matters of
05:49Loyalty among member states
05:51But the question sir and obviously you know the tweet
05:53Is very well is what can the EU
05:55Do about this because the feeling that
05:57We get in Brussels is that there are no tools
05:59To counter this
06:00There are tools but first of all I think I always
06:03Thought this is basically political
06:05So and there are ways
06:07Of European countries in the European institutions
06:09To show their
06:12Concerns and also
06:13Somehow politically to act
06:15On this matter so it means that
06:17Tomorrow
06:19If Hungary makes the point
06:21Or any country says
06:23We are a sovereign country
06:25We can do this on our own
06:27Yes they are sovereign
06:28But one thing they should understand is that
06:31The others are also sovereign
06:32So the others can also meet without Hungary
06:35So what does that mean?
06:37It means that tomorrow
06:38For sensitive matters
06:40There is nothing in the treaties
06:42That makes it impossible
06:43The others
06:44The other 27
06:45Or in this case
06:46The other 26
06:47Or 25
06:48Depending on those countries
06:50Who break the rules
06:51Not to be
06:52In the same room
06:53With the others
06:54In the past
06:55It already happened
06:56In a way
06:56It was not
06:57So dramatic
06:59But you remember
07:00When
07:00During the financial crisis
07:02When some countries
07:03Pushed for
07:04A fiscal compact
07:05A fiscal treaty
07:06I remember
07:07It was the United Kingdom
07:08That said
07:09Our sovereignty
07:10Should be respected
07:12We don't want that treaty
07:13And at that time
07:14Other countries
07:15Said look
07:16You have your own sovereignty
07:17But if you don't have that treaty
07:19Okay
07:19We don't do it
07:20With the European
07:21As such
07:21But we do it
07:22With ourselves
07:22There are very clear
07:25Besides the legal
07:26Matters
07:27Because from a legal
07:28Point of view
07:29The European Union
07:30Can launch infringements
07:31If there is a violation
07:33Of Article 4
07:34Of the Lisbon Treaty
07:35But beyond the legal
07:37Measures
07:37I think it's even more
07:39Effectively
07:39Politically
07:40We can always show
07:42To a country
07:43That behaves like that
07:44Not respecting
07:45Basic principles
07:46Of decency
07:47That the countries
07:48Can move on
07:49Politically as well
07:50So Mr. Barroso
07:51Because this is very important
07:52Your advice
07:53For the head of the commission
07:54Founder Lyon
07:55For Kayakalas
07:56The capitals
07:57Right now
07:57Is not to wait
07:58For the clarification
07:59Or the legal assessment
08:01But to simply
08:02Cut them out
08:02Don't invite them
08:03Into meetings
08:04No I did not say that
08:06No
08:06What I said
08:07And by the way
08:07Not just to the president
08:09Basically this is for the president
08:10Of the European Council
08:11This is not for the European Commission
08:13And such
08:15Because it's a matter
08:16Of breaking
08:16The confidence
08:17Between the countries
08:18Themselves
08:19And it is in fact
08:20Leaking information
08:21About the European Council
08:23So
08:23What I think
08:25First of all
08:26They should clarify
08:27If the clarification
08:28Is not sufficient
08:29I think
08:30In some matters
08:31The president
08:32Of the European Council
08:33Can perfectly say
08:35Now we are going
08:36To meet without Hungary
08:37It's very important
08:39That we have
08:40In Hungary
08:41And in all member states
08:42Countries
08:43And governments
08:44That respect
08:46The basic principles
08:47Of decent behavior
08:48And trust
08:49And if they don't
08:51They in fact
08:51They should
08:52There should be
08:54A reaction
08:54Of the other countries
08:55And the European institutions
08:56When you look
08:57At the European leadership
08:58Now
08:58You talk about
08:59The different voices
08:59And the different sensitivities
09:01Who is best representing
09:02The interests
09:03Of the European Union
09:04On the global stage
09:06I know
09:07There is always
09:09That debate
09:09In Europe
09:10About a kind
09:10Of a face
09:11Or a
09:11Yes
09:12I believe
09:12That's
09:14That's not
09:15The right approach
09:16To European leadership
09:17The question
09:18That we have
09:18To ask ourselves
09:19Are we in Europe
09:20In favor
09:21Of having someone
09:22In Brussels
09:24Signing executive orders
09:25Like the US president
09:27No
09:27We don't have
09:28The commission
09:28Is doing its job
09:29The president
09:30Of the European council
09:31Is doing its job
09:31Other governments
09:32Maybe the governments
09:33Of the most influential countries
09:35Are trying to do their job
09:37So it's
09:38By definition
09:39European leadership
09:39Is more institutional based
09:41Than personal based
09:43Which is not necessarily bad
09:45You see
09:45And I think
09:46With that experience
09:47Of 22 years
09:48In European
09:49In decision making
09:50I tell you
09:51We are not going to get
09:52In the future
09:53In the foreseeable future
09:54One voice
09:56One face
09:57One leader
09:57And although
09:59Very often
10:00I said
10:00I would like to have
10:01Because it will be quicker
10:02It will be more decisive
10:04The reality is
10:05That there are also
10:06Some advantages
10:06In avoiding
10:07A centralised
10:09Completely centralised
10:10Leadership
10:11Because sometimes
10:12We have seen
10:13Other parts of the world
10:14It does not work better
10:15Because they are
10:16Only one
10:19José Manuel Broso
10:21There speaking
10:21To our Maria
10:22Tadeo
10:23Now apart from
10:24That diplomatic scandal
10:25Hungary
10:26Is also being criticised
10:27For blocking
10:28A 90 billion euro loan
10:29To Ukraine
10:30Over the
10:31Dlusba pipeline
10:32Spash
10:32This was of course
10:33A major theme
10:34Of a recent summit
10:35Here in Brussels
10:36To find out
10:37If there's been
10:37Any movement here
10:38We can now turn to
10:39Our Ukraine correspondent
10:40Sasha Vakilina
10:41Good morning Sasha
10:42So what are Ukraine's
10:43Options now?
10:44Well Ukraine publicly
10:45Has been stating
10:46That it has full trust
10:48In the European Union
10:49And the President
10:50Of the European Commission
10:51And the President
10:52Of the European Council
10:53Who have insisted
10:54That the EU
10:54Will find a way
10:55Of unblocking
10:56Those 90 billion loan
10:57To Ukraine
10:58But at the same time
10:59Kyiv is running out
11:00Of money
11:01And needs this financial
11:02Support really urgently
11:03And it is looking
11:04At other possible partners
11:06With the escalation
11:07In the Middle East
11:08Those partners
11:09Could be indeed
11:10In the Middle East
11:11And in the Gulf regions
11:13Among the countries
11:13Who have officially
11:14Requested Ukraine's help
11:15And expertise
11:16In countering Iranian drowns
11:18And President Zelensky
11:19Did admit it
11:20Saying that Ukraine
11:22Is looking for
11:23Other partners
11:24Elsewhere away from Europe
11:26Let's take a listen
11:29Ukraine offers
11:30A mutually beneficial partnership
11:32We can strengthen
11:33Those who can strengthen us
11:35We can see that
11:36We are being blocked
11:37In Europe
11:37And as long as
11:38The risk remains
11:39We need to look
11:40For further opportunities
11:41To strengthen our position
11:42The Middle East
11:43And the Gulf region
11:44Represent in our view
11:46The right direction
11:47To take and offer
11:48Significant opportunities
11:49To strengthen our position
11:53President Zelensky
11:54There losing a little bit
11:54Of patience with Brussels
11:55Of course we've been
11:56Discussing this potential loan
11:57For months here
11:58But Brussels has promised
12:00They will find a way
12:01To unlock this loan
12:02Sasha
12:02But yet we're seeing
12:03Budapest now halting
12:05Gas transit as well
12:06To Ukraine
12:06Absolutely
12:07Let's take a little step
12:08Back and see what is it
12:10That Hungary has been
12:11Blocking for a while
12:12Now we have this
12:1290 billion loan
12:13We also have the new
12:14Package of sanctions
12:15Against Russia
12:17Also being blocked
12:17By Hungary
12:18There is also a veto
12:20Regarding the opening
12:21Of the clusters
12:22And any proceedings
12:23Regarding Ukraine's
12:24EU accession process
12:25Now recently
12:26Hungary also announced
12:27It would cut diesel
12:29Electricity
12:30And now natural gas transit
12:32Now these are
12:32All those tools
12:34Already used
12:36Or announced
12:37By Budapest
12:38That doesn't really
12:39Leave much rest
12:40In this arsenal
12:41What else can Hungary
12:43Do in this dispute
12:45With Kyiv
12:46Over the
12:46Druzba pipeline
12:48Now let's take a listen
12:49To what Viktor
12:50Orban had to say
12:51About these new measures
12:55Ukraine has been
12:57Blocking the operations
12:58Of the friendship
12:58Oil pipeline
12:59For 30 days
13:00In order to break
13:02The oil blockade
13:03And ensure
13:03Hungary's secure
13:04Energy supply
13:05Further measures
13:07Are now needed
13:08Therefore
13:08We will gradually
13:09Halt gas deliveries
13:10From Hungary
13:11To Ukraine
13:11And store the remaining
13:13Volumes at home
13:14As long as Ukraine
13:16Does not supply oil
13:18It will not receive
13:19Gas from Hungary
13:23Hungary is indeed
13:24A very important
13:25Transit route
13:25For natural gas
13:26For Ukraine
13:27It represents
13:27Around 30%
13:29Of all the inputs
13:30But at the same time
13:32Ukraine foreign ministry
13:32Said that at this stage
13:34Ukraine has enough
13:35To go on
13:36For a while
13:37But also
13:38There are alternative routes
13:39That have already
13:40Been discovered
13:41And used
13:41First and foremost
13:42This is Poland
13:43So it remains to be seen
13:44How actually
13:45How strong
13:46And how efficient
13:47For Budapest
13:48This new measure
13:48Would be
13:49In this disputowy
13:50Druzhba
13:50Okay thank you so much
13:51Sasha
13:52Sasha Vakilina
13:53There reporting
13:53For us
13:54And now to take a look
13:55At how all these issues
13:56Are impacting
13:57Polish-Hungarian
13:58Relations
13:59Our Polish reporter
14:00Jakub Janos
14:01Brings us this report
14:04Not so long ago
14:05Poland and Hungary
14:06Used to be the ultimate
14:07Power couple
14:08Of Central Europe
14:09Today
14:10Polish Prime Minister
14:11Donald Tusk
14:12Is publicly calling
14:13Budapest
14:13Alleged handling
14:14Of EU secrets
14:15A disgrace
14:16And strongly condemns
14:17Its growing loyalty
14:18To Moscow
14:19And this is no longer
14:20Just a political
14:21Disagreement
14:22It's a full-blown
14:24Fracture built over
14:25Years over Russian
14:26Connections
14:26And ideological clashes
14:28So let's see
14:29The timeline
14:30Shall we
14:32Under Polish
14:33Previous law and justice
14:34Government
14:34Warsaw and Budapest
14:36Were inseparable
14:36Shielding each other
14:38From the EU's penalties
14:39But Russia's full-scale
14:41Invasion of Ukraine
14:42Caused a massive crack
14:43Poland became
14:45Kyiv's biggest champion
14:46While Viktor Orban
14:48Refused to break
14:48His ties with
14:49Vladimir Putin
14:50And the rift
14:51Grew so deep
14:52That even Polish
14:53Conservative leader
14:54Jarosław Kaczyński
14:55Told Orban
14:56To get his eyes
14:57Checked over
14:58Russian atrocities
14:59Fast forward
15:00To today
15:01And the situation
15:02Got even more tense
15:03Budapest
15:04Has become
15:05A safe haven
15:06For wanted
15:06Law and justice
15:07Politicians
15:08Fleeing Tusk's
15:09New government
15:09And former
15:11Polish justice
15:12Minister
15:12Zbigniew Żobro
15:13Is currently
15:14Hiding in Hungary
15:15Evading criminal
15:16Charges of corruption
15:17And abuse of power
15:18And the relationship
15:21Derailed completely
15:22This week
15:22After reports
15:23That Hungary's
15:24Foreign minister
15:25Was allegedly
15:26Leaking EU meeting
15:27Details to Moscow
15:28Prompting Tusk
15:30To admit
15:30Warsaw has
15:31Suspected this
15:32Betrayal for years
15:33Now the conflict
15:35Is tearing Poland
15:36Itself apart
15:37MAGA-aligned
15:39Polish president
15:40Karol Nawrocki
15:41Is defying
15:42Pro-EU Tusk
15:43By travelling
15:43To Budapest
15:44To stand with
15:45Orban
15:46Right before
15:46The April 12 elections
15:48And it is
15:50An ironic
15:50Twist of history
15:51These two nations
15:53Shared monarchs
15:54In the late
15:54Middle Ages
15:55Like Louis the Great
15:56And Stefan Batory
15:57And after centuries
15:59Of surviving empires
16:00World wars
16:01And communism
16:02Together
16:03It seems
16:04That current
16:04Geopolitical
16:05Alliances
16:06And Russian
16:06Ties
16:07Are breaking
16:08A relationship
16:09Long defined
16:10By the old
16:10Proverb
16:11Paul and
16:12Hungarian
16:13Two good
16:13Friends
16:14Together for
16:15The sword
16:15And the wine
16:45Jakob Yanis
16:47In the studio
16:47By Iran
16:47Mayat
16:49So quite a context
17:17Going on
17:18And Ukraine
17:20Is how to talk
17:23Is how to talk
17:23About Ukraine
17:24When this issue
17:25Has been really
17:26Overshadowed
17:27By Iran
17:27In the past
17:28Week
17:29So how to
17:29Put back
17:30Ukraine
17:30On the agenda
17:32And how to
17:33Enhance support
17:34Y esto será muy interesante para el G7, para los europeos en el G7, para hablar con Rubio sobre esto,
17:40para tener una primera cuenta de lo que está sucediendo en Irán y con la Ucrania.
17:45Bueno, supongo que van a obtener más información sobre este plan, este potencial plan plan.
17:48Sí, así que hablamos sobre el potencial plan plan, pero nada está muy certain, nada está realmente confirmado.
17:53Por un lado, hay talks, ongoing talks entre los americanos y los iranianos,
17:59y Pakistán es el país brokering estas negociaciones.
18:05Nosotros hablamos, hablamos, hablamos, hablamos, hablamos, hablamos de 15 pointes plan plan, pero nada está confirmado.
18:10Y en el otro lado, hay ongoing strikes en Irán, y hay un anunciamiento de la Pentecostal diciendo que van
18:17a enviar 2,000 aeronaves.
18:19Así que, la guerra es todavía ahí, y en el otro lado, hay talks de paz.
18:24Así que no es muy claro, como sabemos desde el principio, pero no es muy claro ahora.
18:29So Rubio will be the one maybe giving a little more clarity on the situation.
18:33So all eyes, of course, on Marco Rubio for some clarity on what is next on a war that, of
18:38course,
18:38is really impacting us here in the European Union.
18:41Maia de la Boone, thank you so much for that update.
18:43Well, that brings this edition of Europe Today to an end.
18:46Thank you so much for tuning in.
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