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Europe Today: El embajador de EE.UU. ante la UE explica la nueva estrategia de seguridad del presidente Trump

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00:00Good morning, it is Wednesday the 10th of December. I'm Maeve McMahan and this is Europe Today,
00:21Euronews' daily live fix of European news and analysis.
00:25Coming up today, Europe is a decaying group of nations led by, quote, weak people. The words
00:31of President Donald Trump, speaking to the European Parliament, Europe's Foreign Chief
00:35Kaia Callas downplayed the slurs, refusing to get into a, quote, word fight. But the
00:40EU Council President, Antonio Costa, asked the US President to show respect. For more
00:45on this story, I'm joined here in the studio by Euronews' EU Editor, Maria Tadeo. Good
00:50morning, Maria.
00:50Good morning.
00:51Fill us in on this story. And does President Trump not have a point, though, because EU leaders
00:55are weak. They're never working together, but often alone, defending their own interests.
00:59Well, look, it is clear that the EU does not have the sort of presidential powers that come
01:06with an executive order. That is not how the European Union works. Although I should note
01:10in the past week and the sort of political storm around the EU, diplomats I've spoken
01:15with in Brussels say this is not constructive criticism. It's been a pounding from the US
01:21administration. And just to give everyone up to speed, in the past five days, the US
01:25administration, the president and people adjacent to the US government have said the EU is weak
01:31politically. Correct. They are too attached to green policies. They are risking now civilizational
01:36erasure. There is too much illegal immigration. We want Europe to stay Europe. We will cultivate
01:42relations with European patriotic parties. And there is a system within the EU that does not
01:47promote freedom of speech. Again, for some of the diplomats I spoke with, they say this
01:52is not criticism, it's political interference. Nonetheless, President Trump yesterday repeated
01:57they do believe in the US that Europe is not going in the right direction for the Europeans.
02:01Of course, this is language that has rattled them. Let's take a look.
02:04Look, Europe has to be very careful. We want to keep Europe Europe. Europe is going in some bad
02:17directions. It's very bad, very bad for the people. We don't want Europe to change so much.
02:23They're going in some very bad direction.
02:25Parts of the document the US published are understandable, but some of it is unacceptable for
02:31us from the European point of view. That the Americans want to save democracy in Europe now.
02:36I don't see any need for that. If it needed to be saved, we would manage that alone.
02:43And that is, of course, the German Chancellor and Maeve. Just to be very clear in the US
02:50national security strategy, they do say that the Europeans are an ally to the US. But the question
02:56now in the EU is whether America's Trump, do they really want to work with the European
03:01institution? And is there even a plan to perhaps weaken the EU from within? I'm not saying there
03:06is one, but that is clearly a question that is permeating in Brussels and has come up this week.
03:12And it's great to have the ambassador, of course, to debrief.
03:14Indeed, Maria. Today, our EU news editor, thank you so much for that. And as she said there,
03:18coming up, we will be joined, in fact, by the US ambassador to the European Union,
03:22Ambassador Andrew Puzder, a former business executive and well-known media commentator.
03:27This year, Andrew Puzder was appointed the US ambassador to the European Union. So he is now
03:33literally the eyes and the ears of President Trump right here in Brussels. So Ambassador Puzder,
03:40thank you so much for joining us. What a day to have you with us here on Europe Today. There's a lot
03:44to digest. But first, let's just start perhaps with President Trump's attempts to end the war
03:49in Ukraine. Is President Trump trying to push President Zelensky into signing a deal before
03:54Christmas? You know, I'm not involved in the negotiations on Ukraine, and I'm reluctant to
04:00comment. We've got Ambassador Witkoff, we've got Secretary Rubio, Jared Kushner, people that are
04:07involved in anything I might say, you know, since I'm not involved, might damage those negotiations.
04:13But the fact that you're based in Brussels, you do understand how the Europeans work. So why do you
04:17think the Russians are getting such soft treatment? Again, I'm not any any comments I made in that
04:22respect could impact the negotiations. And I it would be it just it just look, we all want peace
04:28in Ukraine. We all want the killing to stop. And I don't want to make a comment that might damage
04:33the negotiations that could lead to that peace. And since I'm not involved, it would be easy for
04:37me to make a mistake and say the wrong thing. Indeed, especially on live TV. You don't want to
04:41make that mistake. But perhaps you could talk to us about how the US administration feel about the
04:45frozen Russian acids. Is the US on board with this? Again, the United States hasn't taken a
04:50position on that. That's a that's a European event, a European solution. I'm and the European
04:57I'm not sure that all the Europeans are granted. I know how the Belgians feel. I know the rest of
05:01Europe feels. So that's not something again, that's not something we're going to get into the
05:06middle of. That's a European decision. But there are reports that the US administration
05:10have been calling bilaterally EU capitals telling them not to sign up to this deal.
05:14Yeah, I've heard those reports. I don't know anybody who's done that. And I haven't spoken
05:18to anybody at the EU who's gotten that kind of contact. So again, that's not this is just
05:23not I'm happy to talk to you about the economy or any areas you want to talk about or President
05:27Trump's comments. But while there's negotiations going on to end this horrific, this horrific war
05:33in in Ukraine, it just would be irresponsible of me to comment because I'm just not involved in
05:39those negotiations. You're not involved. But please, I'm sure our listeners would love you to
05:43comment on President Trump's plans and the various comments we've heard across the last couple of
05:48days on the national security strategy. Is this a campaign, do you think, Ambassador, to dismantle
05:52the European Union? Well, you know, it's interesting that the coverage of the national security
05:57strategy, when I read it, I thought, my, this thing's going to be terrible. I went and read it. And
06:02it's really not that bad. The section on Europe is titled a proposal for European greatness. It's
06:09not called we don't like Europe, we want Europe to go away. And if you read down a little bit,
06:14it says that Europe is, I think I'm going to get the quote right, Europe is strategically and
06:21culturally vital to the United States. You read a little further, it says our transatlantic trade
06:27relationship, which is the largest trade relationship in the world, is a pillar of
06:33the global economy and of American prosperity. So I don't there, I don't, I did not read it at all
06:39as an attempt to dissolve the European Union. But does it suggest going back to nation states?
06:43Well, I think the, the thrust of it is that you do have 27 sovereign states. So it's not going back
06:51to sovereign states, you have 27 sovereign states. The question is, how much of their sovereignty did they
06:56give up to be part of an economic union? Did they give up the sovereignty to determine who comes
07:01into or out of their countries? Did they give up the sovereignty on cultural issues that might be
07:07different in Eastern Europe than they are in Western Europe? So when it says Europe's weak
07:11and decaying, who's weak? Who is President Trump referring to?
07:14Well, if you, if you look at the European Union overall, you'll see the GDP, the nominal GDP,
07:20was ahead of the United States, the European Union in 2011. So that's 14 years ago. For me,
07:26that doesn't seem so long ago. That's recent memory. Today, if you include the United Kingdom,
07:32it's about 20% below that the IMF is projecting for this year. If you take the United Kingdom out,
07:38it's almost a third below. This is a huge drop. And even more impressively, I think for citizens
07:43in Europe, for the people of Europe, GDP per capita, in other words, economic growth in a country per
07:49person, GDP per capita in Germany, the industrial giant of Europe is now below that of the state of
07:58West Virginia in the United, the 49th worst state. I mean, Europeans know that as well. I mean,
08:01they don't really need this document to state it, but just this idea of what is Europe?
08:05Asked, what's the weakness? And then if you look at Spain, Italy, France, the French economy, and you
08:11look at the EU overall, and include the UK, I'll include the UK in this too, just for fairness,
08:17they're below the state of Mississippi, which is the 50th lowest GDP per capita US state. So when you
08:22ask where's the weakness, what's, well, this is an economic weakness. So it's not pointing at a
08:26particular particular person. And just this idea of Europe staying Europe, what exactly does that
08:30mean? Does that mean a white Christian Europe? No, I think it means, and I think it means,
08:35I would say this for the United States too, when people are immigrating into the United States,
08:40if you're not going to contribute economically, if you don't want to become a part of the society,
08:48if in fact you reject the basic tenets of that society, it's probably people we don't want.
08:54Those are the kind of people that come in and you see an increase in the crime rate.
08:58You see a decrease in the kind of cultural values people have. I think there are even European cities
09:02where the police now are afraid to go in or don't go into certain sections. They're governed by
09:05different legal standards. I think what he's saying is that we don't want to see Europe lose
09:13its identity as Europe because... And Ambassador, we're going to have to leave it there. But do come
09:16back to us, please, again, sit here on Europe today. Because we didn't get to talking a bit about
09:20Elon Musk, because of course he's furious about the 120 million euro fine that Brussels sent him last
09:26week for failing to meet transparency rules. Our reporter, Jakob Janis, has been trying to get inside his head
09:31of The Richest Man of the World. Take a look.
09:36Trying to understand Elon is like trying to assemble IKEA furniture in the dark. Except we have no
09:43instructions and the pieces keep changing shape. We Europeans often dismiss him as a barbaric cowboy.
09:50We pride ourselves on being the educated adults in the room. Well, if we are so clever, let's prove it.
09:58And for that, let's use Carl Jung to talk about Elon. The Swiss psychologist defines archetypes.
10:04But there is a catch. For every positive face, there is a shadow.
10:09First, the Creator. He is the visionary building rockets that one day will take him to Mars.
10:16But his shadow is the anarchist. He treats SpaceX explosions as data, and he is willing to burn billions,
10:24and occasionally break laws, just to see if his toys work.
10:29Second, the ruler. If money is the measurement of success, he is the most profitable CEO in the world,
10:37who just secured one trillion dollar deal at Tesla to keep him.
10:43But his shadow is the tyrant. When he took over Twitter, he didn't just restructure it, he decapitated it.
10:51He fired 80% of the stuff in weeks, demanding hardcore loyalty just to prove he holds the crown.
10:59And third, the jester. The internet troll posting memes that people laugh at.
11:06But here, the shadow is the nihilist. The cruel trickster who retweets posts comparing the EU to the fourth Reich.
11:13But not for the lols. He simply believes nothing matters anymore.
11:18Elon is a spectacle we cannot look away from.
11:22Maybe he's just seeking validation from his favourite former reality TV star.
11:28But that, on the other side, would be Freud.
11:31So, Mr. Musk, which Elon are you today?
11:38Jakob Yanis reporting for us there, but now going back to the ongoing war in Ukraine.
11:43As you're hearing a lot on your news lately, Europe is grappling with financing Ukraine in the long term.
11:48But, meanwhile, NATO countries are already working with private tech on how to best resolve the struggles on the front line using drones instead of manpower.
11:57For more on this story, we can cross overnight to our NATO correspondent, Shona Murray, who's actually in Rihimaki in Finland for us.
12:03Good morning, Shona. Thank you so much for joining us this morning.
12:06Just tell us, where are you exactly and what have you been finding out?
12:10So, this is Rihimaki, a small garrison town about two hours from the Russian border.
12:16As we know, Finland has the largest border with Russia inside NATO, 1,350 kilometres.
12:21So, this town sees itself really as a future innovation hub for the defence industry.
12:26As I said, it's a garrison town.
12:28I'm standing outside Sako, which is a rifle manufacturer.
12:31It's been here since 1921, but it's very much expanding.
12:34I spoke to the mayor here yesterday, who said they've given away a whole street to allow that expansion.
12:40So, what we saw yesterday was a collaboration between the public and private sector and, of course, a demonstration of NATO's eastern flank deterrence line.
12:49So, as you said, there are drones, unmanned ground vehicles, which are used to transport wounded soldiers from the battlefield, also to transport ammunition.
12:59These are very important on the front line in Ukraine, but also vitally important to protect Europe's eastern flank from a lot of the incursions we've seen over the last few months, whether it's hybrid war or airspace incursions.
13:11Maeve?
13:12And I believe you spoke to a Ukrainian soldier, Shona, who's just left the front line.
13:16How is he doing and what did he say?
13:17Yes, what was interesting about yesterday is not just soldiers that were there, Ukrainian soldiers who were in Kherson, but also private sector defence industry, which have also spent the last few weeks in Kherson, because they're obviously trying out all of their new drones and their new weapons on the battlefield.
13:36So, I caught up with Alexander Voitko, and I asked him about the situation in terms of development when it comes to innovation and also their counterpart, the Russians.
13:45Russians are moving now at many points of front line, but we are killing many of them too.
13:56We rely mostly on drones, so-called drones wall.
14:01We use all types of drones, small kamikaze, FPV drones, bombers, fixed ISR wings, and middle strike wings, kamikaze, all type of drones.
14:16Alexander Voitko and, of course, our Shona Murray there reporting for us live from Finland, so thank you so much to her for that.
14:22And thank you so much for tuning in to another edition of Europe Today.
14:26For more news and analysis, you can check out yournews.com.
14:29But thank you so much for watching.
14:31Take care and see you very soon here on Euronews.
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