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04:32downloading, governments have not

04:33respect some fundamental principles,

04:35including this principle that is not

04:37a vague principle, it's

04:39in fact the principle that is

04:41in the treaty, it's in the Lisbon Treaty

04:43I 법 4, number 3,

04:45it's the duty of sincere

04:47cooperation among member states.

04:49So if one country is now

04:51briefing or debriefing

04:53other countries

04:56on very sensitive matters

04:57and other countries, in this case Russia

04:59being today a clear opponent

05:01not to say an enemy, of the European Union.

05:04So, of course, it is greatly concerning.

05:06And the clarifications provided so far

05:09by the Hungarian government

05:12are not really clarifications.

05:14In fact, in a way, it's even worse

05:15because, if I understood correctly,

05:17according to the media reports I've seen,

05:19the Hungarian foreign minister said

05:22that he irregularly briefs

05:24not only Russia, but the United States,

05:27Turkey, Israel, and Serbia

05:29on this matter.

05:31So, the very fact that the government

05:34of the European Union and a NATO country

05:36puts at the same level

05:38the United States and Russia,

05:42it's quite strange, I would say.

05:45And I think it raises very important matters

05:48of loyalty among member states.

05:51But the question, sir,

05:52and obviously you know the tweet is very well,

05:54is what can the EU do about this?

05:56Because the feeling that we get in Brussels

05:58is that there are no tools to counter this.

06:00No, there are tools.

06:02But first of all, I think I always thought

06:04this is basically political.

06:05So, there are ways of European countries

06:08and European institutions to show

06:10their concerns

06:12and also somehow politically

06:15to act on this matter.

06:16So, it means that tomorrow,

06:19if Hungary makes the point

06:21or any country says,

06:23we are a sovereign country,

06:25we can do this on our own.

06:27Yes, they are sovereign.

06:29But one thing they should understand

06:30is that the others are also sovereign.

06:32So, the others can also meet without Hungary.

06:35So, what does that mean?

06:37It means that tomorrow,

06:39for sensitive matters,

06:40there is nothing in the treaties

06:42that makes it impossible

06:44the others, the other 27,

06:45or in this case,

06:47the other 26 or 25,

06:49depending on those countries

06:50who break the rules,

06:51not to be in the same room

06:53with the others.

06:54In the past,

06:55it already happened in a way.

06:57It was not so dramatic.

06:59But you remember,

07:00during the financial crisis,

07:02when some countries pushed

07:04for a fiscal compact,

07:05a fiscal treaty,

07:06I remember,

07:07it was the United Kingdom

07:08that said,

07:09our sovereignty should be respected.

07:12We don't want that treaty.

07:13And at that time,

07:15other countries said,

07:15look, you have your own sovereignty,

07:17but if you don't have that treaty,

07:19OK, we don't do it

07:20with the European Union,

07:21but we do it ourselves.

07:23There are very clear,

07:25besides the legal matters,

07:27because from a legal point of view,

07:29the European Union

07:30can launch infringements

07:31if there is a violation

07:33of Article 4

07:34of the Lisbon Treaty.

07:35But beyond the legal measures,

07:38I think it's even more effectively,

07:39politically,

07:40we can always show

07:42to a country

07:43that behaves like that,

07:44not respecting

07:45the basic principles

07:46of decency,

07:47that the countries

07:48can move on

07:49politically as well.

07:50So, Mr. Barroso,

07:51because this is very important,

07:52your advice

07:53for the head of the commission,

07:55Fondre Lyon,

07:55for Kayakalas,

07:56the capitals right now

07:57is not to wait

07:58for the clarification

07:59or the legal assessment,

08:01but to simply cut them out.

08:02Don't invite them

08:03into meetings.

08:04No, I did not say that.

08:06No.

08:06What I said,

08:07by the way,

08:07not just to the president,

08:09basically,

08:09this is for the president

08:10of the European Council.

08:12This is not for

08:12the European Commission

08:13and such.

08:15because it's a matter

08:16of breaking

08:16the confidence

08:17between the countries

08:18themselves.

08:19And it is,

08:20in fact,

08:20leaking information

08:21about the European Council.

08:23So,

08:24what I think,

08:25first of all,

08:26they should clarify

08:27if the clarification

08:28is not sufficient.

08:29I think,

08:31in some matters,

08:32the president

08:32of the European Council

08:33can perfectly say,

08:36now we are going

08:36to meet without Hungary.

08:38It's very important

08:39that we have,

08:40in Hungary

08:41and in all member states,

08:43countries

08:43and governments

08:44that respect

08:46the basic principles

08:47of decent behavior

08:48and trust.

08:50And if they don't,

08:51they,

08:51in fact,

08:52there should be

08:54a reaction

08:54of the other countries

08:55and the European institutions.

08:56When you look

08:57at the European leadership

08:58now,

08:58you talk about

08:59the different voices

08:59and the different sensitivities.

09:01Who is best representing

09:02the interests

09:03of the European Union

09:04on the global stage?

09:07I know.

09:08There is always

09:09that debate in Europe

09:10about a kind of a face

09:11or a...

09:12Yes.

09:12And I believe

09:12that's not the right approach

09:16to European leadership.

09:17The question

09:18that we have

09:18to ask ourselves,

09:19are we in Europe

09:20in favor

09:21of having someone

09:23in Brussels

09:24signing executive orders

09:25like the U.S. president?

09:27No,

09:27we don't have...

09:28The commission

09:28is doing its job,

09:30the president

09:30of the European Council

09:31is doing its job,

09:32and the governments,

09:32namely the governments

09:33of the most influential countries,

09:35are trying

09:36to do their job.

09:37So it's,

09:38by definition,

09:39European leadership

09:40is more institutional-based

09:41than personal-based,

09:43which is not necessarily bad,

09:45you see.

09:45And I think it's...

09:47With that experience

09:47of 22 years

09:48in European Union

09:49and decision-making,

09:50I tell you,

09:51we are not going to get

09:52in the future,

09:53in the foreseeable future,

09:55one voice,

09:56one face,

09:57one leader.

09:57and although

09:59very often

10:00I said,

10:00I would like to have

10:01because it will be quicker,

10:03it will be more decisive,

10:04the reality is that

10:05there are also

10:06some advantages

10:06in avoiding

10:07a centralized,

10:09completely centralized

10:10leadership

10:11because sometimes

10:12we have seen

10:13other parts of the world

10:14it does not work better

10:15because they are

10:16only one.

10:20José Manuel Broso

10:21there speaking

10:21to our Maria Tadeo.

10:23Now,

10:23apart from that

10:24diplomatic scandal,

10:25Hungary

10:26is also being criticized

10:27for blocking

10:28a 90 billion euro loan

10:29to Ukraine

10:30over the Dlusba

10:31pipeline spat.

10:32This was,

10:33of course,

10:33a major theme

10:34of a recent summit

10:35here in Brussels

10:36to find out

10:37if there's been

10:37any movement here.

10:38We can now turn

10:38to our Ukraine correspondent,

10:40Sasha Vakilina.

10:41Good morning, Sasha.

10:42So what are Ukraine's

10:43options now?

10:44Well, Ukraine publicly

10:45has been stating

10:46that it has full trust

10:48in the European Union

10:49and the President

10:50of the European Commission

10:51and the President

10:52of the European Council

10:53who have insisted

10:54that the EU

10:54will find a way

10:55of unblocking

10:56those 90 billion

10:57loan to Ukraine.

10:58But at the same time,

10:59Kyiv is running out

11:00of money

11:01and needs this financial

11:02support really urgently

11:03and it is looking

11:04at other possible partners.

11:07With the escalation

11:07in the Middle East,

11:08those partners

11:09could be indeed

11:10in the Middle East

11:11and in the Gulf regions

11:13among the countries

11:13who have officially

11:14requested Ukraine's

11:15help and expertise

11:16in countering

11:17Iranian drowns.

11:18And President Zelenskyy

11:19did admit it,

11:21saying that Ukraine

11:22is looking

11:23for other partners

11:24elsewhere away

11:25from Europe.

11:26Let's take a listen.

11:29Ukraine offers

11:30a mutually beneficial

11:32partnership.

11:32We can strengthen

11:33those who can

11:34strengthen us.

11:35We can see

11:36that we are being

11:36blocked in Europe

11:37and as long

11:38as the risk remains,

11:39we need to look

11:40for further opportunities

11:41to strengthen

11:42our position.

11:42The Middle East

11:43and the Gulf region

11:44represent,

11:45in our view,

11:46the right direction

11:47to take

11:47and offer significant

11:48opportunities

11:49to strengthen

11:50our position.

11:53President Zelenskyy

11:54there,

11:54losing a little bit

11:54of patience

11:55with Brussels.

11:56Of course,

11:56we've been discussing

11:56this potential loan

11:57for months here,

11:58but Brussels has promised

12:00they will find a way

12:01to unlock this loan,

12:02Sasha,

12:02but yet we're seeing

12:03Budapest now halting

12:05gas transit as well

12:06to Ukraine.

12:06Absolutely.

12:07Let's take a little

12:08step back

12:08and see what is it

12:10that Hungary

12:10has been blocking

12:11for a while.

12:12Now, we have

12:12this 90 billion loan.

12:13We also have

12:14the new package

12:15of sanctions

12:15against Russia

12:17also being blocked

12:17by Hungary.

12:18There is also

12:19a veto

12:20regarding the

12:21opening of the

12:21clusters

12:22and any

12:22proceedings

12:23regarding

12:23Ukraine's

12:24EU accession

12:25process.

12:25Now, recently,

12:26Hungary also

12:27announced it

12:28would cut

12:28diesel,

12:29electricity

12:29and now

12:30natural gas

12:31transit.

12:32Now, these

12:32are all

12:33those tools

12:34already used

12:36or announced

12:37by Budapest

12:38that doesn't

12:39really leave

12:39much rest

12:40in this arsenal.

12:42What else

12:42can Hungary

12:43do in this

12:44dispute

12:45with Kyiv

12:46over the

12:46Druzhba

12:47pipeline?

12:48Now, let's

12:49take a listen

12:49to what

12:49Viktor Orban

12:50had to

12:51say about

12:51these new

12:52measures.

12:56Ukraine has

12:57been blocking

12:57the operations

12:58of the

12:58Friendship

12:58oil pipeline

12:59for 30

13:00days.

13:01In order

13:01to break

13:02the oil

13:02blockade

13:03and ensure

13:03Hungary's

13:04secure

13:05energy supply,

13:06further

13:06measures

13:07are now

13:07needed.

13:08Therefore,

13:09we will

13:09gradually

13:09halt gas

13:10deliveries

13:10from Hungary

13:11to Ukraine

13:11and store

13:12the remaining

13:13volumes

13:13at home.

13:14As long

13:15as Ukraine

13:16does not

13:17supply oil,

13:18it will

13:18not receive

13:19gas from

13:20Hungary.

13:23Hungary is

13:24indeed a

13:24very important

13:25transit route

13:25for natural

13:26gas for Ukraine.

13:27It represents

13:27around 30%

13:29of all the

13:30inputs,

13:31but at the

13:31same time,

13:32Ukraine

13:32foreign ministry

13:32said that

13:33at this stage,

13:34Ukraine has

13:35enough to

13:36go on for

13:37a while,

13:37but also

13:38there are

13:38alternative routes

13:39that have

13:40already been

13:40discovered

13:41and used.

13:42First and

13:42foremost,

13:43this is

13:43Poland.

13:43So it

13:44remains to

13:44be seen

13:44how strong

13:46and how

13:46efficient

13:47for Budapest

13:48this new

13:48measure would

13:49be in

13:49this

13:49dispute

13:50over

13:50Druzhba.

13:51Thank you

13:51so much,

13:51Sasha.

13:52Sasha

13:52Vakilina

13:53there

13:53reporting.

13:53For us,

13:54and now

13:54to take

13:55a look

13:55at how

13:55all these

13:56issues

13:56are

13:56impacting

13:57Polish-Hungarian

13:58relations,

13:59our Polish

14:00reporter,

14:00Jakub Janos

14:01brings us

14:01this report.

14:04Not so

14:05long ago,

14:05Poland and

14:06Hungary

14:06used to be

14:07the ultimate

14:07power couple

14:08of Central

14:08Europe.

14:09Today,

14:10Polish

14:10Prime Minister

14:11Donald Tusk

14:12is publicly

14:12calling

14:13Budapest

14:13alleged

14:14handling

14:14of EU

14:15secrets

14:15a disgrace

14:16and strongly

14:17condemns its

14:18growing loyalty

14:18to Moscow.

14:19And this

14:20is no longer

14:20just a

14:21political

14:21disagreement.

14:23It's a

14:23full-blown

14:24fracture

14:24built over

14:25years of

14:25Russian

14:26connections

14:26and

14:27ideological

14:27clashes.

14:28So let's

14:29see the

14:29timeline,

14:30shall we?

14:32Under Polish

14:33previous

14:33law and

14:34justice

14:34government,

14:35Warsaw

14:35and

14:35Budapest

14:36were

14:36inseparable,

14:37shielding

14:37each

14:38other from

14:38the EU's

14:39penalties.

14:39But Russia's

14:41full-scale

14:41invasion of

14:42Ukraine

14:42caused a

14:43massive

14:43crack.

14:44Poland

14:44became

14:45Kyiv's

14:45biggest

14:46champion,

14:46while

14:47Viktor

14:47Orban

14:48refused to

14:48break his

14:49ties with

14:49Vladimir Putin.

14:50And the

14:51rift grew

14:51so deep

14:52that even

14:52Polish

14:53conservative

14:53leader

14:54Jarosław

14:54Kaczyński

14:55told Orban

14:56to get

14:56his eyes

14:57checked

14:57over Russian

14:58atrocities.

14:59Fast forward

15:00to today

15:01and the

15:01situation

15:02got even

15:02more tense.

15:03Budapest

15:04has become

15:05a safe

15:05haven for

15:06wanted

15:06law and

15:07justice

15:07politicians

15:08fleeing

15:08Tusk's

15:09new

15:09government.

15:10And

15:10former

15:11Polish

15:11justice

15:12minister

15:12Zbigniew

15:13Zbigniew

15:13is currently

15:14hiding in

15:14Hungary,

15:15evading

15:16criminal

15:16charges

15:17of

15:17corruption

15:17and

15:18abuse

15:18of

15:18power.

15:20And

15:20the

15:20relationship

15:21derailed

15:21completely

15:22this week

15:22after

15:23reports

15:23that

15:23Hungary's

15:24foreign

15:24minister

15:25was

15:25allegedly

15:26leaking

15:26EU

15:26meeting

15:27details

15:27to

15:28Moscow,

15:29prompting

15:29Tusk to

15:30admit

15:30Warsaw

15:31has

15:31suspected

15:32this

15:32betrayal

15:32for

15:32years.

15:34Now

15:34the

15:35conflict

15:35is

15:35tearing

15:36Poland

15:36itself

15:37apart.

15:38MAGA

15:39alliance

15:39Polish

15:39president

15:40Karol

15:40Nawrocki

15:41is

15:41defying

15:42pro-EU

15:42Tusk

15:43by traveling

15:43to

15:44Budapest

15:44to

15:45stand

15:45with

15:46Orban

15:46right

15:46before

15:47the

15:47April

15:4712

15:47elections.

15:49And

15:49it

15:49is

15:50an

15:50ironic

15:50twist

15:51of

15:51history.

15:52These

15:52two

15:52nations

15:53shared

15:53monarchs

15:54in

15:54the

15:54late

15:54Middle

15:54Ages

15:55like

15:55Louis

15:55the

15:56Great

15:56and

15:56Stefan

15:57Batory.

15:58And

15:58after

15:58centuries

15:59of

15:59surviving

16:00empires,

16:01world

16:01wars

16:01and

16:02communism

16:02together,

16:03it

16:03seems

16:04that

16:04current

16:04geopolitical

16:05alliances

16:06and

16:06Russian

16:06ties

16:07are

16:08breaking

16:08a

16:08relationship

16:09long

16:09defined

16:10by

16:10the

16:10old

16:10proverb

16:11Paul

16:12and

16:12Hungarian

16:13two

16:13good

16:13friends

16:14together

16:15for

16:15the

16:15sword

16:15and

16:16the

16:16wine.

16:22Jakob

16:23Janis

16:23reporting

16:23for us

16:24there.

16:24Now

16:25moving on,

16:25foreign

16:25ministers

16:26of the

16:26G7.

16:27So the

16:27group of

16:28seven

16:28that

16:28includes

16:29Canada,

16:29France,

16:30Germany,

16:30Italy,

16:31Japan,

16:31the UK,

16:32the US

16:32and the

16:33European

16:33Union

16:34are

16:34gathering

16:34in an

16:35abbey

16:35today and

16:36tomorrow

16:36near

16:36Paris.

16:37On

16:37their

16:37agenda,

16:38the

16:38ongoing

16:38wars

16:39in the

16:39Middle

16:39East

16:40and

16:40Ukraine,

16:40a global

16:41energy

16:42crisis and

16:42a choked

16:43Strait of

16:44Hormuz.

16:44For more

16:45on what

16:45we should

16:45expect,

16:46I'm joined

16:46here in

16:47the studio

16:47by your

16:47news's

16:48correspondent

16:48Maya

16:48Della

16:49Boom.

16:49So quite

16:50a context

16:50here that

16:51they're

16:51gathering

16:51in.

16:51What

16:52should

16:52we

16:52expect?

16:53Yes,

16:53as you

16:53said,

16:54the

16:54foreign

16:54affairs

16:54ministers

16:55of the

16:55G7

16:55are

16:56coming,

16:57are

16:57gathering

16:58near

16:58Paris

16:59to talk

16:59about

16:59the

16:59most

16:59pressing

17:00issues.

17:00We

17:00know

17:01what

17:01these

17:01issues

17:01are,

17:02mainly

17:02Iran,

17:03but also

17:04how to

17:04enhance

17:10reports

17:11now on

17:12whether

17:12America

17:13is really

17:14talking to

17:15Iranians,

17:15if there

17:16is a

17:16peace

17:16plan

17:17going on

17:18right now.

17:19Clearly,

17:20on Ukraine,

17:21the other

17:21issue is

17:22how to

17:23talk about

17:24Ukraine

17:24when this

17:25issue has

17:25been really

17:26overshadowed

17:27by Iran

17:27in the

17:28past

17:28weeks,

17:29so how

17:29to put

17:30back

17:30Ukraine

17:30on the

17:30agenda,

17:32and how

17:33to

17:33enhance

17:34support.

17:34And this

17:35will be

17:35very

17:36interesting

17:36for the

17:37G7,

17:37for Europeans

17:38in the

17:38G7,

17:39to talk

17:39to Rubio

17:40about this,

17:40to have

17:40a first

17:42account of

17:43what is

17:43happening

17:44in Iran

17:44and with

17:45Ukraine.

17:45Well,

17:45they're hoping

17:46they'll get

17:46more information

17:47on this

17:47peace plan,

17:48this potential

17:48peace plan.

17:49Yes,

17:49so we

17:49talk about

17:50a potential

17:50peace plan,

17:51but nothing

17:51is very

17:52certain,

17:52nothing is

17:53really

17:53confirmed.

17:53On one

17:54side,

17:54you have

17:56ongoing

17:56talks between

17:57Americans

17:58and Iranians,

17:59and Pakistan

18:00is the

18:02country

18:03brokering

18:03these

18:03negotiations.

18:05We

18:06hear about

18:07a 15-point

18:08peace plan

18:09there,

18:09but nothing

18:10is confirmed.

18:10And on the

18:10other side,

18:11you have

18:11ongoing

18:12strikes in

18:13Iran,

18:14and you

18:14have an

18:15announcement

18:15from the

18:16Pentagon

18:16saying that

18:17they will

18:17send 2,000

18:18airborne troops.

18:19So, you

18:19know, the

18:20war is still

18:21there, and on

18:21the other

18:22side, there

18:22are talks

18:23of peace.

18:24So, it's

18:25not very

18:26clear, as we

18:26know from the

18:27start, it's not

18:27clear, but it's

18:28not clear now.

18:29So, Rubio will

18:30be the one

18:30maybe giving a

18:31little more

18:32clarity on the

18:33situation.

18:33So, all

18:34eyes, of

18:34course, on

18:35Marco

18:35Rubio for

18:35some clarity

18:36on what is

18:37next on a

18:38war that, of

18:38course, is

18:38really impacting

18:39us here in

18:40the European

18:40Union.

18:41Maia de

18:41Le Boon, thank

18:41you so much

18:42for that

18:43update.

18:43Well, that

18:43brings this

18:44edition of

18:45Europe Today

18:45to an end.

18:46Thank you so

18:46much for

18:47tuning in.

18:47As always,

18:48stay with us

18:49here, though,

18:49on Euronews to

18:50catch a fresh,

18:51very fiery

18:52edition of The

18:53Ring, our

18:54weekly debating

18:55show that

18:55comes to you

18:55from the

18:56European

18:56Parliament here

18:56in Brussels.

18:57Thanks again

18:58for watching.

18:59Take care

18:59and see you

19:00soon on

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