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True Crime Story It Couldnt Happen Here S03E04 Love County Oklahoma
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00:04So what was the last time you spent time with Molly?
00:07The last time me and Molly spent time together we went to a concert down in Dallas.
00:14Saw the band Tesla and had a ball.
00:17Sang along and we were making videos, making vines, recording, laughing.
00:25And we stayed at one of the nicest hotels, went to the pool on the 17th floor.
00:36And...
00:39Yeah.
00:58We're in southern Oklahoma.
01:00This area specifically, where we're going back and forth between Carter County and Love County,
01:07is a very different area than previous small towns that we visited,
01:12because this is the heart of Indian country.
01:16Around here is Chickasaw.
01:19And as you go east, it's Choctaw.
01:23And if you go north, there's Cherokee.
01:25So there's three tribal nations within very short distance.
01:31It's worth noting that today, most of the residents of this area are white.
01:37But it is still official Chickasaw Nation land.
01:43Now Oklahoma has this dark distinction of being the state that has the highest number of missing people per capita.
01:53And that disproportionately affects the Native American population here.
01:59So many kids come up missing every day.
02:03I don't understand what's being done about it.
02:09This is Wilson, Oklahoma.
02:11It's a little small town inside of Carter County, population less than 2,000 people.
02:17But of the people who live here, they've been here for generations.
02:22And two of these very long-standing families were deeply affected in July of 2013,
02:28when Molly Miller, 17-year-old athlete at the high school and member of the Chickasaw Nation,
02:36went missing with her friend Colt Haynes.
02:39Eleven-plus years later, no one has any answers.
02:43And recent changes in the way this case is being investigated
02:47are affecting the way that their families are able to get answers.
02:53My name is Melissa Henderson, and Molly Miller is my daughter.
02:59Molly is Chickasaw, being on my side of the family.
03:03I was born and raised in Wilson.
03:06Does it feel like a safe place to live?
03:10It used to.
03:11I don't know that anywhere would really feel safe anymore.
03:19The last text I got from Molly was on that Saturday.
03:23She was going to the lake to hang out with her friends around the 4th of July.
03:27I tried to call her number, and someone answered the phone,
03:32and then they hung up, and that was really aggravating
03:35because I had not physically seen her, had not heard from her.
03:39It was time for her to come home.
03:42I got a phone call, an old family friend,
03:45and he told me, you need to get down here.
03:48Something ain't right.
03:50My name's Garrett Lambert. I'm Molly's brother.
03:53Part of me felt that Molly was fine.
03:58This is just teenagers being teenagers
04:00because there's times when I was a teenager
04:03I wouldn't come home.
04:06I know I've taken many hours of sleep from my parents and grandparents.
04:12By Monday, I knew that something was wrong.
04:15I went to the Wilson Police Department.
04:18They just said not to panic.
04:20It's not unusual that teenagers run away from home
04:24or they're mad at their parents.
04:25In that situation, they always encourage you to wait
04:28to let's give it time.
04:36My name is Richard Parsley.
04:38I was the captain of the Wilson Police Department in 2013.
04:43It was Sunday.
04:44We were right in the middle of the shift change
04:47when a black Honda turned into the parking lot
04:53and just did donuts,
04:56slinging rocks all over my patrol car.
04:59It was like they were taunting me.
05:02So at that point, I activated my lights and siren,
05:06and I went after them.
05:07They got a pursuit?
05:08Yeah, it's a black 2012 Honda Accord.
05:11The vehicle then turned left onto the South Highway.
05:15I was able to call out the tag number to my dispatch
05:18and trying to call out every road that we're passing and direction.
05:23They're about to come in to Love County on 76.
05:26We noticed he was heading towards Love County.
05:29I clocked the car at about 120 miles an hour
05:33in a 65-mile-per-hour zone.
05:35At this point, this is a felony pursuit.
05:41Be advised, they just turned on Water Moccasin now.
05:44Water Moccasin Road is the county line of Carter County and Love County.
05:49The vehicle continued east,
05:52and at that point, it was all gravel roadway.
05:55All the dust was kicking up in front of me,
06:00and I lost sight of everything.
06:02And I was losing control of my patrol car.
06:05They're on a gravel road, and they can't see them.
06:08Right at that point, the Honda turned off all headlights and taillights.
06:15I stopped pursuit because it was far too dangerous to continue.
06:19Are they still running with their lights off then?
06:21He's lost sight of them.
06:22Whenever I slowed down to where I could see again,
06:25the vehicle's gone.
06:26Be advised, Wilson is lost sight of the vehicle.
06:28My dispatch was communicating everything to Love County.
06:33Love County has sight of the vehicle. They are now in pursuit.
06:35The Love County Sheriff's Office is in active pursuit of this vehicle at this point.
06:41My unit's advised that they do believe it's Conn Nip,
06:43probably going to Long Hollow.
06:47Conn Nip was a convicted fellow,
06:49and Conn was living down on Long Hollow Road at this time.
06:54My name is Joe Russell.
06:55I was the Sheriff of Love County in 2013.
06:58I called Officer Blagg and told him to block Long Hollow Road.
07:04And all he seen was dust when he got to Long Hollow Road.
07:07And he followed the dust.
07:09But nobody seen the car on Long Hollow Road,
07:12so they didn't know which way it turned.
07:14I had officers all over Long Hollow Road.
07:18We searched for tire tracks or anywhere the vehicle could have gone.
07:24It was a lot of wooded area, and we couldn't see anywhere.
07:29Well, they was out there till 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning.
07:34It was like the car just disappeared.
07:37On July 8th, the following day after the pursuit,
07:41I was notified by Chief Hernandez that Molly Miller had been reported as a runaway.
07:46I followed up with the first lead I had, which was Jessica Williams, the friend of Molly Miller.
07:54The last time she talked to Molly, she was with two other people, Colt Haynes and Conn Nip.
08:01While I was interviewing Jessica, she said that Molly, Colt and Conn were hiding out from the police
08:09because they were involved in the pursuit the other night.
08:13I realized that was the same vehicle that I was involved in the pursuit in.
08:20So after I was able to run the tags, the vehicle returned to Sabrina Graham.
08:26She was a friend of the Nip family.
08:28Sabrina had reported the vehicle stolen.
08:31It was speculated that Conn Nip was driving the vehicle
08:35and had in the car with them Molly Miller and Colt Haynes.
08:39Early on in the investigation, we knew Conn Nip's whereabouts.
08:44He refused to speak to any law enforcement at that time, and we could not locate Colt Haynes.
08:54I'm pretty sure it was July 10th when Molly's cousin got ahold of me and asked if I had seen
09:02Colt or Molly, and I told her I hadn't.
09:05But I would try to get ahold of Colt and get back to her.
09:09My name is Monique Stewart, and Colt Haynes is my baby brother.
09:14I started messaging Colt, and I don't know, I probably sent him 30 or 40 messages over the next two
09:20days.
09:20Just let me know you're okay, let me know you're okay.
09:23And then when he wasn't answering, then I was getting worried.
09:29When I went to file the missing persons report, my older brother Jesse stood up and started saying no.
09:36He's like, you can't file a missing persons report.
09:38They're in Wichita Falls. I know they're in Wichita Falls.
09:40So what's the big deal if I file a missing persons report?
09:44If they're in Wichita Falls, they find them in Wichita Falls, then they can disregard the report.
09:48It kind of made me uncomfortable that he would argue with me about it.
09:52I went home and tried to get ahold of Colt several more times.
09:56And then on the 18th of July, I went to Wilson and filed a missing persons report.
10:03We began to put the cases together.
10:06My hopes were they were just running and hiding.
10:10There's nothing that we know of other than they are still missing.
10:21I have a teenager and it is unimaginable that any mother would have to live any amount of time, but
10:31especially not 11 plus years, not knowing what happened to their kid.
10:36There have been news stories, podcasts, you know, TV shows, coverage of this case.
10:43And those stories are largely pushed by members of Molly's extended family.
10:48But the person closest to her, her mother, Melissa Henderson, has remained pretty silent.
10:55So she's been gracious enough to invite us over today, but we're also going to speak with Colt's sister, Monique.
11:03It's so nice to meet you.
11:05You too.
11:06I'm Hillary.
11:07Monique.
11:07Nice to meet you.
11:09How long have you two known each other?
11:11We met when Colt and Molly went missing.
11:14Had you ever heard of Molly?
11:17No.
11:18I mean, I talk to my brother often.
11:20He's never told me about a girl named Molly.
11:23If we can get a sense from you guys, who was Molly?
11:27Who was Colt?
11:28And so I'll start with you, Melissa.
11:30Well, she was just a fun girl.
11:33Friends with everyone.
11:36She was a ball player.
11:37She was a dancer.
11:39She was a lot more athletic than I was, that's for sure.
11:42She had grit.
11:44And then what about Colt?
11:47We were really, really close.
11:48I was nine when Colt was born.
11:51So I put my baby dolls down and carried my little brother everywhere.
11:56So you were practically a little mom.
11:58Yes.
12:00And then when he got to being a teenager, he just got into partying, drugs.
12:07And then he went to juvie for a while, but got himself cleaned up after that.
12:12And he was doing really good.
12:13You know, had a girlfriend, had a baby.
12:16And then they broke up and he fell apart again.
12:21I would love to go back to July of 2013.
12:27Did you know who she was with that night?
12:30I was told that she was with Con.
12:33Con.
12:34Con Nip?
12:35Mm-hmm.
12:36And is that someone that you had known before?
12:40Mm-hmm.
12:40I knew Con's mother.
12:42And then Con's mother's parents knew my parents.
12:46Okay.
12:47And I never had a concern about her being with him, because I knew him.
12:53Yeah.
12:55When I found out Con was accounted for, but Molly and Colt were MIA, I didn't immediately
13:00think that Con had done something to them.
13:03I thought, you know, maybe they had gotten lost out there.
13:07What was the last communication that anyone had with them?
13:11Later, I got in touch with one of Colt's friends who was like, listen, Colt called me asking
13:19to come pick him up on the 7th.
13:21And it was kind of frantic that he was lost out in the woods and they're trying to find
13:26the road and they can't get out.
13:27And they've been walking.
13:29They're hot.
13:30So they're dehydrating fast.
13:35My family owns property off of Pike Road.
13:37And I can tell you that I would not want to be out there on a night in July in
13:43that area.
13:44My name's Connor Choate and I'm the publisher of the Marietta Monitor here in Love County.
13:48The area between Long Hollow and Pike Road off of Oswalt Road is a rural part of our community.
13:57And the area they went into would have had animals from wild hogs to rattlesnakes.
14:04And you have to remember, July in Oklahoma is not very friendly.
14:09It can reach to temperatures of well past 100 degrees.
14:13You're talking about being in a wooded area.
14:16It's thick.
14:17You're scared.
14:18You're nervous.
14:19You're trying to get out of there.
14:20You're lost.
14:21You don't know where you are.
14:26He told his friend, he's like, I climbed a tree trying to find a road.
14:30And then he fell out of the tree and broke his ankle.
14:32The bone was sticking out.
14:34So he wasn't getting anywhere.
14:35Yeah.
14:36On his own.
14:37And poor little Molly, there was no way she could drag him.
14:39Colt was huge compared to her.
14:41So she wasn't going to be able to help him.
14:44Yeah, there was no way she was going to help him out of there.
14:47The friend was on the phone with Colt.
14:49So that friend had went down there looking, driving up and down the road, honking the horn, to see if
14:56Colt could hear it.
14:57Yeah.
14:58And Colt was like, I can't hear it.
15:00So at what point does this not become, you know, 911 showing up and paramedics and people going out looking
15:08for two kids who are in peril?
15:11That question was asked and they were like, well, we're not calling the cops.
15:16We're down here with drugs.
15:18We're not calling the cops on ourselves.
15:21What about the calls that your daughter was making?
15:24A lot of the people she called said the calls were dropping, that she was breaking up because of the
15:30service down there.
15:32After the chase, around 12.57 a.m. on the morning of July 8th, Molly Miller does make a call
15:42to 911.
15:44However, that call disconnects.
15:46The dispatcher tries to call back and cannot reach them.
15:50Allegedly, the calls eventually stopped that morning around 9.30.
15:55So at that point, all communication that Molly Miller and Colt Haynes had with the outside world ceased.
16:01And they are never heard from again.
16:05There's acres and acres and acres of land that if you were down there and got, you know, injured, people
16:12probably wouldn't find you for years.
16:14There is absolutely nothing out there.
16:18I mean, you could fall off in a hole and nobody would ever know it.
16:22There's a lot of theories on what happened.
16:25When we look at it from a journalism perspective, we really just try to stick to the facts.
16:30What we do know about the case is that you have three people in a car, Conn Nip, Molly Miller,
16:36and Colt Haynes.
16:38One of them shows back up and then two of them have still yet to be found.
16:41And I think that's what's led to a lot of people pointing at Conn Nip.
16:51I did talk to Conn in the beginning and he said that he hadn't seen her.
16:55And I was kind of disappointed that he didn't have any more information than what he had.
17:00But he quit talking to me.
17:01Just early on, it seemed like he knew something and he didn't want to tell us.
17:06James Conn Nip quickly wanted to distance himself from this case.
17:11There was a lot of rumors going around that Conn done something to Colt because Conn had reasons to be
17:19jealous of Colt.
17:20Colt had a child with Conn's past girlfriend.
17:23So he had all the reasons not to want Colt alive, I guess.
17:28He was our person of interest because he was the last person to be with Molly Miller and Colt Haynes.
17:36What Conn told me when I interviewed him, he said, we got out of the car.
17:42I said, I asked Molly if she wanted to go with me.
17:44She said, no, I'm going to go with Colt.
17:46Conn left the car.
17:47And he said, I went home and they went the other direction.
17:53Colt was still alive when Conn got home.
17:55In the morning, Colt's friend went to Conn's house.
17:58While he's on the phone with Colt, Conn answered the door.
18:02Conn, I guess, takes the phone.
18:04So Conn and Colt talked on the phone.
18:07So we know Colt was still alive when Conn got home.
18:11The property where we lost sight of the vehicle turned out to be a family member of Conn Nips,
18:17who owned a lot of property in that area.
18:23We were given permission by the family to search.
18:30It was a Wilson PD case and we'd assist them any way we could.
18:37I had one officer who stayed out there all week from sunup to sundown walking.
18:42Not driving around, walking around.
18:44They're looking for him.
18:47No, it was two weeks later before we found the car.
18:51On July 21st, 2013, we received notification that the vehicle was found in between Pike and Long Hollow.
19:02It was impounded, untouched.
19:05Then they investigated the whole vehicle as if there was a crime scene.
19:11There was nothing found in the vehicle.
19:14You hear stories about people go missing all the time and everybody links hands searching through woods or fields.
19:22Does that ever happen in the area where this car chase ended?
19:26We got access to the land where they found the car to do a search, which was the end of
19:34August, early September.
19:37But as we're searching, we've got the landowners on horseback with shotguns not letting us go in certain areas.
19:46That sounds super fishy.
19:49Right.
19:51They're not welcoming anybody, especially not the cops.
19:53There's some outlaw stuff going on down there.
19:56They might have a stolen piece of property, they might have a dope cook, whatever.
20:03As this investigation is going, the Oklahoma State Highway Patrol is able to link James Conn Nipp through phone records
20:11to the Honda Accord that Molly Miller and Colt Haynes were both inside of when they ran away from police.
20:17The car that was left abandoned was actually owned by James Conn Nipp's friend at the time.
20:23She actually filed a theft report on the car being missing.
20:27It turned out that there were text messages that showed that she knew where the vehicle was and that James
20:33Conn Nipp had the vehicle.
20:36She was later charged for filing a false police report and insurance fraud.
20:41And Conn Nipp was charged with endangering others while looting police officers and reckless driving.
20:49And holding Conn accountable, it wasn't bringing Molly back.
20:52It wasn't telling us where they were, but it was something.
20:58We have reports in the Marietta Monitor that he verbatim told them, I don't know what happened to them.
21:04He could have easily been cooperative with law enforcement, cleared himself, but he didn't.
21:12The only person he would speak with would be the Sheriff Joe Russell.
21:17There were several accusations on Sheriff Russell that he was helping Conn hide evidence,
21:26helped him wipe the car, all kinds of rumors about Joe being involved.
21:32Joe Russell's also been in the area for many, many years, and it was widely known that he was related
21:40to James Conn Nipp.
21:43Joe Russell, what is his affiliation with Conn Nipp?
21:48So Joe is Conn's distant cousin.
21:52Okay.
21:52But Joe was also a family friend of ours.
21:56You know, I was around Joe growing up my whole life.
21:58What is your family's position on Sheriff Joe Russell's potential for help?
22:03Well, I thought, being a family friend and it being in Love County at this point, that he would at
22:09least try to help us.
22:11But when I talked to him, it was, I don't know anything.
22:14You're going to have to go to somebody else.
22:16And that was it.
22:17He never struck me as a bad guy.
22:21But then, you know, now we're getting into this case and he's basically, I can't help you.
22:26So I did find it strange that he was refusing to help.
22:31Yeah.
22:32It was either the first week or the second week.
22:34I called Joe Russell.
22:36He told me I needed to call Wilson and talk to the chief there.
22:40And I demanded and persisted and he hung up on me.
22:46The relationship between Sheriff Joe Russell and James Conn Nipp fueled a ton of speculation.
22:54Him being related to Conn, yes, Joe Russell hindered the investigation.
23:01So Joe, why did you agree to talk to us today?
23:07Well, I've been wanting to tell my story, let people know, you know, what I've done, what I've done and
23:15ain't done.
23:16And they got to accusing me of trying to cover stuff up.
23:22And were you?
23:23No.
23:25I was not covering up for the Nipp family or no other family.
23:38You can't stop people from telling rumors.
23:42They said that I knew who'd killed Colt and Molly.
23:46Good.
23:47And do you know what happened?
23:49I have no idea what happened to Colt and Molly.
23:53I think if Joe Russell wasn't Sheriff, that car would have been found that night.
24:03And so what of Molly and Colt?
24:05Joe messed this up.
24:08In a small community like Love County, it's not uncommon for someone to make a career out of being a
24:14sheriff.
24:16When they get elected, they're most likely going to serve in that position until they decide to move on or
24:22they do something really bad that gets them in trouble.
24:25When Molly Miller went missing along with Colt Haynes in Love County three years ago, the Miller family believes that
24:31Russell did not do enough to investigate because his nephew was a person of interest.
24:35Well, today, Russell was in court on an entirely different matter, accused of harboring a fugitive and maintaining a meth
24:42house while serving as sheriff.
24:45Not long after Colt and Molly went missing, Willie, the sheriff's son, got busted for dealing drugs.
24:53The rumor was Sheriff Russell was allowing his son to deal out of his house.
25:01And I think that there was even reports about he was harboring a girlfriend of his son's that he knew
25:07had an arrest warrant.
25:08And the investigation was launched into him by the FBI.
25:13As far as I know, Willie never sold no drugs out of my house.
25:16Willie's girlfriend, supposedly girlfriend, she come over one night, but she was not living in my house.
25:24And I did not know she had warrants.
25:28Sheriff Joe Russell was ultimately charged with two felony charges.
25:33From a news point of view, when your sheriff is indicted and arrested by the FBI, it's massive.
25:39And so we had an influx of news media coming from all over to cover what was going on with
25:46Sheriff Joe Russell.
25:48When I told my friends back in Dallas that I was going to be moving to Love County, that was
25:51everything that everybody talked about was that, hey, you know, that's where the sheriff got arrested.
25:56My reaction when I found out that our sheriff was arrested, they did not surprise me one bit.
26:02During the time of the arrest of Joe Russell, there were also accusations that he had allowed James Conn to
26:10be in a room with evidence within the Love County Justice Center that was not under the watch of a
26:17Love County sheriff's deputy.
26:20All I can say is that's not true.
26:23I never let Conn go in the office and shut the door and visit with his family.
26:27Now, with a lawyer, yes, but not with his family.
26:32We always had somebody standing there watching them.
26:37I never would give Conn no special privileges or nothing.
26:48The end result is really twofold.
26:51Joe Russell lost all of his credibility and really just fueled the theories about his department, the Love County Sheriff's
27:00Office, and also about Molly Miller and Colt Haynes.
27:04And he loses his position that he's held for many, many years.
27:14Well, my lawyer taught me to resign.
27:18I told him, I said, I don't want to do this.
27:20I really don't.
27:21He said, Joe, it's a good deal.
27:23It's a good deal.
27:23I said, I understand that, but I ain't guilty of nothing.
27:27I mean, I'm not wishing for Joe's demise, but it was definitely a W to get Joe out of office.
27:35Well, do you feel like the headlines about police corruption stole the spotlight from your case?
27:45You know, and that's where I was getting so aggravated on so much focus being on him.
27:51I still didn't care about anything about him and what he did.
27:54I wanted to focus on my child.
27:59There were rumors that they had seen Molly and Colt alive.
28:02They were in Norman, Oklahoma, that they went to Wichita Falls, Texas.
28:08There were rumors that they were probably in California.
28:11Jesse is the one that told me that, you know, Colt and Molly are in Wichita Falls.
28:16You know, they're down there having fun.
28:20I was all over from Norman to Wichita Falls to Gainesville to Durant.
28:27Most of those leads never panned out.
28:32Even before the sheriff has to resign, local law enforcement turned the case over to the OSBI, the Oklahoma State
28:40Bureau of Investigations.
28:43I was not happy.
28:44Not happy that I couldn't do anything more.
28:47I still wanted to find out what happened.
28:51I think about it every day.
28:53There's been all kinds of law enforcement to work this case.
28:56Early on, you could tell the agencies weren't communicating and there was no urgency.
29:07I was skeptical about the new agent, but he actually took the time and listened and investigated.
29:15He didn't give us any answers, but started asking the right questions.
29:19And the right questions being asked, that gave me some hope.
29:23Once OSBI took over the case, I do know that they most likely followed a bunch of leads.
29:30However, to my knowledge, there was very little movement.
29:33As far as any charges that were filed, there was nothing of that nature that the OSBI did during that
29:39timeframe.
29:40I spoke with an OSBI officer.
29:43He said, every lead I have looked at has led nowhere.
29:49Nowhere.
29:54I feel this case has been passed around to, I couldn't even tell you how many agencies.
30:01It's got to be upwards of 10.
30:02Just back and forth.
30:04Feels a whole lot of not it to me.
30:11In 2020, the Supreme Court ruled on a case called McGirt v. Oklahoma.
30:17And this case essentially established the sovereignty of the tribal nations.
30:23And with that sovereignty also comes that if something were to happen against a Native American on tribal land, that
30:30local law enforcement or state law enforcement couldn't get involved in investigation.
30:35It would be solely federal and tribal law enforcement.
30:39It was a huge ruling for the state of Oklahoma because most of Oklahoma is tribal land.
30:46The McGirt ruling for Molly Miller means that state and local law enforcement were not allowed to be the lead
30:55agency involved after 2020 due to Molly being part of the Chickasaw Nation.
31:05In the media coverage of Molly and Colt's case, it's largely gone unmentioned that Molly is a member of the
31:14Chickasaw Nation.
31:15Unfortunately, Molly's case is not a rarity.
31:19There is a disproportionate number of Indigenous women who go missing every single year.
31:26And talking about this epidemic is so important.
31:30And so we are going to go speak with Carissa Hodge.
31:33And she runs an organization called MMIP Chadha.
31:38And that's the Missing and Murdered Indigenous People Chadha.
31:42So I'd love to know from Carissa what a family is supposed to do in a situation like this.
31:52Hi.
31:53Hello.
31:54How are you?
31:55Good. How are you? I'm Carissa.
31:56It's so nice to meet you.
31:57Nice to meet you as well.
32:00Can you tell me what the purpose of the organization is?
32:04We started it to help our Indigenous people.
32:08So in Oklahoma City, we had 271 missing last year.
32:11And in Tulsa.
32:12Just last year?
32:13Yes.
32:13And then in Tulsa, we had 221.
32:16And so we had two cities out of Oklahoma that were some of the highest out of all the United
32:21States for missing Native people.
32:23I understand that, especially in this case that we're talking about of Molly Miller, you know, there's lots of jurisdictions
32:29at play here.
32:30And that's kind of true of any small town.
32:32There's the local PD.
32:33There's the county sheriff.
32:35There's the state.
32:36But the McGirt ruling has even taken that further.
32:40Yes.
32:40So the BIA is at Bureau of Indian Affairs.
32:43They are located here in Oklahoma, and they'll get involved in any missing or murdered cases that we have as
32:49long as it's on tribal land.
32:51Okay.
32:51There's also our own law enforcement.
32:54The Chickasaw Nation has a light horse.
32:56They're tribal police officers.
32:58Do you feel like if the BIA had been involved from the jump, we would be further along in this
33:03investigation?
33:04I 100% do, just because they do this all the time.
33:09The Bureau of Indian Affairs is a federal agency, and this agency allowed a fresh perspective on the disappearance of
33:16Molly Miller.
33:17And they have a lot more resources than state or local law enforcement does.
33:23Vincent Marcellino is the investigator for the BIA that's leading the case.
33:29And him and I talked at length about the investigation.
33:31He seemed that he had a really strong desire to see the case solved.
33:38But now, two years later, hearing nothing, there's not really movement, and it gets discouraging.
33:44Because you know, as an investigator, he's getting more cases every single day.
33:50Vincent Marcellino, he is amazing, but they are completely overwhelmed.
33:54Yeah.
33:55We have four BIA detectives that cover Oklahoma.
33:58Four Bureau of Indian Affairs agents for the entire state.
34:02Yes, ma'am.
34:02Why so few?
34:03I don't know if it's budgets or what it is.
34:07What do you say to families like Molly's and Colt's, who are left with no answers, I mean, this many
34:15years later?
34:16I tell them all the time, um, don't give up.
34:20Okay.
34:21Always say their name, always share their story, and continue finding resources.
34:26You know, it's never too late.
34:28Yeah.
34:30It sure is aggravating when people come to me saying, why haven't they done this, or why haven't they done
34:35that?
34:36And if you try to call and get information, there's still certain things they can't tell you.
34:40They'll tell you a little bit, but they still won't tell you everything that they know.
34:44If you were to go to a little local cafe around here, and the subject of Colt and Molly came
34:50up,
34:52it would pretty much be a unanimous thing that nothing was done the way it should have been done.
34:56There's no closure, and it's kind of a black eye on the county that nobody seemed to be able to
35:04find what happened.
35:05Somebody knows where they are, but nobody's talking.
35:08Who do you think is responsible for your brother's disappearance?
35:13I wholeheartedly believe my oldest brother, Jesse, is the person that killed Colt and Molly.
35:25I was at my grandma's house talking to my brother, Jesse, and he told me that him and Colt had
35:31gotten into a fight over a girl.
35:33You know, Jesse just said, next time I see that little MF-er, I'm going to stab him.
35:39Growing up, if he would get mad, he would grab me by the throat and hold me up against the
35:44wall with my feet dangling until I turned blue.
35:47That's what we survived.
35:49I think that f***ed Jesse, doesn't it?
35:53I think there was a situation where the brothers got heated, and Jesse probably killed his brother.
36:00And Molly, Molly's not going to let it go.
36:02So they had to shut her up.
36:06Monique, did you ever speak with law enforcement about your older brother, Jesse?
36:11Yes.
36:12Okay.
36:13There was a private investigator hired.
36:16This is still pretty early on, about a year.
36:19And when he come in, I was telling him that I thought Jesse was involved.
36:24He was like, no, we know who did it.
36:25We just have to prove it.
36:26You need to quit spreading family rumors and keep your mouth shut about that.
36:30Jesse's not involved.
36:31So he made me feel about this toll, because, you know, who accuses their brother?
36:39But he had motive.
36:40He had means.
36:41To me, that would be enough to investigate.
36:44Yeah.
36:45There are certain parts of this case that we know.
36:50We know that your brother Colt was making phone calls.
36:55Yeah.
36:55We know that he was near Connip's family compound.
37:01How would your brother Jesse have known where to find them?
37:07Well, I believe Conn or one of his family members called Jesse to come get Colt and Molly.
37:15So I believe that they went and got Jesse so they didn't have to get law enforcement involved.
37:23And I think Jesse took his chance while Colt was down and couldn't defend himself.
37:30And I think Molly just was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
37:41And trying to live with the thought that your own brother is involved.
37:59And I'm the one pointing the finger.
38:09There's been a multitude of things that I've heard on what happened on the early morning of July 8th.
38:17I've heard that the NIPS were involved in some way.
38:21I've heard that Colt Haynes' brother might have had involvement.
38:24But the truth is, is that no one knows.
38:28And hopefully someone will know eventually and hopefully we'll all know eventually.
38:34We do not have an answer on what happened to them.
38:37And it's been 12 years this year.
38:40I lost the daughter of natural causes.
38:43And I used to tell people, I know how you feel, but you don't.
38:47I can't imagine how the Miller family feels.
38:51The Miller family and the Haynes family need closure.
38:55I always feel like I've not done enough.
38:57I mean, there's got to be something.
38:58I just hope no one ever has to go through a missing person or anyone missing.
39:04Because they're kind of on their own.
39:06I just want it to be over.
39:07You know, I just, I want the truth.
39:11What would it mean for you to have people come forward after all this time?
39:17It would mean everything to us.
39:21I want what's my brother's body, where he can be buried, and we can have the closure we need.
39:30For us to get answers.
39:31It'll take someone on their deathbed that doesn't want to take that with them.
39:37So, that's where we're at.
39:59The last thing that we know for sure is that Molly and Colt were on this road.
40:05And they ended up somewhere in these woods.
40:09And then everything else is speculation.
40:13We didn't come here trying to solve this case.
40:16That's not our job.
40:17Our job is to talk about the systemic failures.
40:22I think the call to action here is for law enforcement.
40:27So many different agencies have had their hand in this investigation.
40:32But what's been missing is the communication and the collaboration.
40:36And so, my hope here is that by shining a light on this story, someone feels brave enough and safe
40:45enough to come forward.
40:46Because these families deserve to know what happened to their loved ones.
40:51mogÄ… be safe.
40:57So much better.
41:01For me, my son will give him a chance.
41:02That's who will keep them safe.
41:03That's how we want to have them to move.
41:03For me, only one day, one day, one day, one day, one day.
41:49you
41:59you
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