00:00It was only when I talked to Craig that I became extremely excited of what this adaptation might look like.
00:16We asked Nico Parker to play an incredibly challenging part.
00:21We have to fall in love with her and she also has to be a specific kind of person,
00:26very different than the person that Joel is going to meet later in the episode in the guise of little
00:31Ellie.
00:32It was important for us to present the audience with a Sarah that we felt we could follow for the
00:37rest of the series.
00:38She's almost the protagonist until disaster strikes,
00:43something that Nico Parker and Pedro Pascal pulled off gorgeously.
00:48Nico Parker, my original daughter, my Sarah, she's the person that I live for.
00:54Without her, I don't have purpose.
00:57He's the best. I could not ask for a better on-screen dad.
01:04A lot of the time with acting, you're not always seeing what you're reading and what the audience is seeing.
01:09So a lot of the time you're kind of making up in your head, which on one hand is really
01:12amazing
01:12because you can create this whole narrative in your brain that then you get to follow through with.
01:17On the other hand, it's like you're watching someone die and you're just staring at like a patch of grass.
01:22The amazing thing about Fort McCloud is it was like you could just really immerse yourself because it's all in
01:26front of you.
01:27Like any time where I was scared, I was genuinely really scared.
01:30Dad!
01:32Oh shit!
01:33And I just remember being like, oh my god!
01:38We are not sick!
01:41So this is how it begins. It begins with tragedy.
01:45Which is ultimately the event that shapes the character for the rest of the show, for the rest of his
01:52life.
01:52It is the point of identity for Joel.
01:55That kind of love, that unconditional love is beautiful and can be very scary at the same time.
02:02We didn't do a lot of rehearsing because I think we both kind of wanted to savor all of the
02:06passion and everything.
02:07The feeling I had after the first take of adrenaline.
02:12The emotion there is heartbreaking and it's ugly. The way she dies is not pretty. It's not meant to be
02:22pretty. Her death is the fulcrum point for everything.
02:35My name is Marlene. I'm the leader of the Fireflies and the Boston QZ.
02:40I first met Marlene almost exactly ten years ago in 2012.
02:45It was to audition for the video game.
02:48As far as the HBO series, I don't remember when I first heard about it, but when I did I
02:54was like...
02:57Mommy want that!
02:59Did I think that they would actually cast me? No, I didn't.
03:02The hundreds of people that work on the game make you look like Marlene, make you look like the character
03:07and turn it into a masterpiece.
03:10It's another thing to step in front of the camera and embody her with my own instrument.
03:15And I had a couple of things on my side, which was I grew into her, I aged into her
03:21a little bit, and I guess my deep passion and love for her.
03:24As a writer you're trying to construct a scenario where a person is trying to avoid a fate worse than
03:30death.
03:31For Joel it would be losing a daughter again, and he probably would not survive that.
03:35So then, how do we put him in a situation where now he has to be with this girl and
03:40he immediately tries to reject it?
03:42You're gonna do it.
03:43The hell we aren't.
03:44We don't have time for this.
03:46Joel is a broken man, and he meets this kid.
03:52Ellie's not a big fan of Joel when she first meets him.
03:57Their initial meeting doesn't really set them up to be the greatest of friends, but I think that's also because
04:01they're like similar personalities.
04:03They just clash, and they don't know how to relate to each other yet.
04:07Assholes!
04:09In the final moments of this episode, Joel forgets that the girl that is standing behind him is not his
04:16daughter.
04:17Primitive instinct takes over.
04:19He can't help but act.
04:21Something else took control of him in a similar way to how the cordyceps does, except for him it's a
04:26version of love.
04:27The most remarkable thing about that moment is that when Ellie watches him beating a man to death, she is
04:36activated.
04:38Earlier in the episode, when Sarah sees him killing this old woman who's infected, who he has to kill,
04:44she cries.
04:47Ellie doesn't cry.
04:49Ellie likes it.
04:50She likes the idea of somebody defending her like that, and she likes the idea of that guy being punished.
04:57And this is where you begin to see the problem, but also the deliciousness of the pairing.
05:04These two were meant to be together, but look out.
05:21She likes it.
05:21Margaret, if you do get into the pattern, they just disminINT her up.
05:22She doesn't want to be, you don't know.
05:22She likes it.
05:22She wants to be together.
05:22We can't give her a kiss.
05:22She doesn't like her to the'll be so cute.
05:22Grazie.
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