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00:02don't be a bitch don't be a bitch if jenna confirms dakota is still lying i'm done i said
00:10are you dating taylor and he told me no no it's just for clove all i wanted is a family
00:17you're sitting there telling me that he came over and had sex with you what does that say
00:22about you that's what i'm saying i was trash is that miranda holy shit wait she looks hot
00:28ladies miranda and her ex-husband chase were the couple involved in the swinging with taylor and
00:34her ex-husband you've never touched a wiener never touched a wiener i came here to take
00:39accountability and so yeah we've had sex in the same room like we had crazy parties in mexico
00:44why would you believe him fuck you you're a liar your girlfriend's literally crying
01:03i can't do this will you please cut the camera i don't even know where my marriage is at
01:07i just had a thought that i don't want to be here anymore i'm focusing on my mental health hope
01:15to
01:15talk to you soon yep i'm pregnant
01:21who's pregnant
01:23no one is
01:26we're gonna play talking to see roulette
01:34we have some new mom talk drama it was awkward that every single one of my friends was silent
01:40demi has now gone off the rails she doesn't think you're good at hair and she told me not to
01:46go to
01:46you for hair and that's why i went to a different salon because she doesn't think you're good at all
01:49and she said that she's like stuck in a thing with you huh to see what she's capable of doing
01:54online
01:54to her friend if taylor's in i'm out if you feel that way the door's there okay bye guys i
02:02can't
02:02believe i'm about to say this out loud but i think i want to come back into mom talk majority
02:06rule
02:07she's back in consent is that okay with everyone i guess we'll see
02:13demi and brad specifically they have more skeletons in their closet does jen know they're skeletons
02:20some things went down in italy like she was literally playing truth or dare with a ton of single men
02:28it's not even just demi it's a rumor that wasn't a rumor did you guys fuck yeah it's not just
02:36like a
02:36one-time hookup thing no it's a full-blown fucking affair
02:50i'm a little sad that we're not with the rest of the crew jesse absolutely confirms that she did
02:57block demi and said and i'd do it again oh i wish i could say that i regret the way
03:03that i handled that
03:04i don't demi officially walked away from mom talk i have heard from multiple sources and there was
03:09more going on between demi and murciano during vanderpump villa i think there's definitely a lot
03:15of moments that were not shown do you think the ladies will have opinions on your absence
03:20for sure they have opinions about everything but yeah i don't really care
03:45i'll bring you to your knees baby you're gonna believe
03:50i'll bring you to your knees baby you're gonna believe
04:06i'm sorry oh my god
04:08you're home
04:08i'm sorry
04:18i'm sorry
04:18i'm sorry
04:19i'm sorry
04:19i'm sorry
04:20i'm sorry
04:23i'm sorry
04:42hey guess what you're gonna go to church with daddy
04:49big bite yummy good job the last year has been a lot you're exhausted i'm exhausted i feel like
04:59taking a good step back and i don't want to be alone and it sucks because i do i have
05:04to be alone
05:05now i know i have been praying more than i ever have and i came to a point where i
05:12wanted to take
05:13a step back and focus on my mental health i talked to my therapist and i decided that i wanted
05:18to
05:19attend a therapy retreat for the next two weeks hi ever you ready to go to church
05:26yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i know look how cool that is i hate getting clothes on me
05:33too
05:34i'm glad you're here though yeah it's so hard to do this by yourself like getting ready
05:40when it's really hard though is when i have the other two oh yeah i know i think about that
05:44dakota is gonna take ever because he's gonna be watching him while i'm gone at the retreat
05:50i don't like leaving my kids that long however i feel like it's needed dakota and i have been
05:57participating in toxic cycles so i want to go and better myself and his part is up to him
06:05are you sure you don't want to come to church yeah um i think i'm just feeling a little exhausted
06:12but thank you for the invite when it comes to church i only go for like the foundations of it
06:17like love family service and i like going but i like to go when i want to go it's like
06:23a personal
06:23thing for me and i know not a lot of people can live in the gray but for me i
06:27i can't you want to
06:34mom talk events going on while i'm gone but the girls are very supportive as all of us as mothers
06:40your mental health comes first because if you don't have that you don't have anything
06:44i just hope all the girls will be able to survive a couple events without me so we'll see
07:12well these interviews are harder now i'm fatter i can't even breathe okay
07:27i'm a little over 20 weeks pregnant and i'm starting to feel it like my back and my boobs
07:32be hurting but i need to show up to this event because we don't really know what's going on with
07:37mom talk right now and we need to have a united friend so i feel like it's really important for
07:40the rest of us to all be there oh my gosh this is not good for my sweet tooth i
07:49know
07:49those are sour i'm gonna get like acid reflex i feel like mom talk is at its absolute lowest right
07:56now taylor and jen are on a mental health break and whitney left mom talk again it's not a shock
08:03recently we all renegotiated our contracts but whitney apparently didn't want more money she wanted
08:09tickets to the oscars and a scripted role in another tv show and clearly she's not here so
08:16she didn't get it no one has heard from her in two weeks so in my head i feel like
08:22she's out
08:22all my prayers have been answered and the church is true
08:30amen
08:33leanne's here just go yeah heart who else is here
08:37well where's demy does it matter i haven't seen demy since she was trying to tell all the girls to
08:42choose between her or taylor and we all sided with taylor there was a little part of me that thought
08:48after this last mom talk meeting that demy would come back to mom talk and everyone would make up
08:52but with a new season she was wanting to get paid three times more than everyone and when she didn't
08:57get that she officially walked away from on top
09:02whitney and demy are out of mom talk but it somehow seems like they're still friends and they've created
09:06some sort of alliance they have been going to influencer events together but they're also still
09:10invested in what we are doing in mom talks so i feel like time will tell if they're actually going
09:15to
09:15stay out of mom talk for long we don't drink alcohol or do drugs and so it's kind of our
09:20vice
09:20whitney and i did ketamine it feels like whitney and demy are kind of taunting us and it's pretty
09:25bad timing because we're busier than ever with non-stop events so the rest of us who are in mom
09:31talk
09:31have to just focus on staying strong and united during this time
09:39i am sick to my stomach a couple weeks ago i was told by marciano that marciano and jesse
09:45have been having an affair and i'm super nervous going into tonight i'm seeing jesse for the first
09:50time since i found out it's not that i necessarily want to tell jesse at the major tour of it
09:54but i
09:54just feel like i can't see her face to face and act like everything's okay i love jesse and i
09:59want
09:59to hear her side of it but this isn't talking about like her shoes are ugly like this is something
10:03that could destroy her family and i really don't know what to do
10:06hello hello did you just grab my ass i'm like oh
10:24although i do find ourselves at a lot of the same events not too long ago i wasn't sure that
10:29i wanted
10:30to be part of the group and i do still have friendship with demi and whitney but since
10:35demi and whitney have left i'm surprised by how much calmer the group seems and i'm starting to
10:42think that maybe this is a good place to be now i just need to get the girls to officially
10:47vote me
10:47back in how funny is that just like waddling around so at the minky couture event when the dj
10:56rings the bell you have to run to any number you find and wait and if the dj calls that
11:01number then
11:01you win a prize and even though i'm over 20 weeks pregnant when there's a competition for a
11:06designer bag you bet you'll see my ass sprinting to win that bag but kayla get that one
11:11up one grab who's a coach black purse how about the leader of mom talk to me that's me and
11:16mikaela
11:17demi runs through the door all of a sudden she wants to do you say the leader of mom talk
11:2239. i was 38. dang it mikaela we're losing this whole thing has been so stressful i hate having
11:32this information when it comes down to it this is jesse jordan and marciano's business
11:46i'm so confused right now because i didn't ever think jesse would be the person that would cheat
11:50i can't see her doing this and i just i don't know marciano can be completely lying so i just
11:55want to protect jesse and find out the truth and i know that's just by telling her first
12:04hey hey are you here yet um i'm just about to get away okay um i'm gonna come to your
12:09car and talk
12:09to you for a sec okay okay bye bye
12:16is 22 your lucky number it's not my lucky number 22 is the winner
12:27that's okay okay
12:28hi how are you i love that dress thank you you look so pretty um you just want to go
12:33my car
12:33yes yeah where's your car see just right here yes how are you i'm good um i like don't even
12:40know where
12:41to like start okay with this um this isn't like easy i'm literally gonna cry thinking about it
12:48because i feel just bad that this has to like come out like the way that it is um so
12:52i met with
12:52marciano to see what was the truth behind like him and demi i just kind of want to like get
13:00the
13:01truth yeah um and i went into it and thinking that he was only gonna say that and he told
13:07me
13:07that you guys have been having an affair the past couple months
13:17okay um
13:28there's so much more to that story but i'm so confused and so overwhelmed by this situation right now
13:37i'm just internally freaking out so much because i've been hiding the secret of my affair for a
13:44while
13:46i'll tell you the truth i'll tell you the truth
13:50i've been hoping and praying this secret would never come out it's the biggest mistake i've ever
13:54made in my whole life but i now have to face what i did own it and tell the truth
14:02jordan and i have been struggling it's been really up and down and we did separate back in
14:08september no one knew and then i went to la marciano was there and i didn't go into it thinking
14:13anything was going to happen at all like i didn't even know he was coming till the day before
14:16and then we were drinking and stuff i kissed him twice
14:21we did have an emotional affair if that's what you want to call it
14:24but on my end like i was just looking for like validation like i was just
14:29so heartbroken and like hurt over like what was going on in my life that i just needed a
14:32distraction that's really what it was jordan's known for six months so he's known the whole time
14:37as soon as i told jordan about the affair i cut it off immediately we decided to keep this affair
14:43private because we're gonna stay together and we didn't need outside opinions and voices
14:47so i am furious at marciano the last time we had talked it was like i have your back and
14:53to see
14:53him just turn on me so quickly is so confusing because i don't know what the purpose is
14:59these will mean that you guys hooked up what does he mean by hooked up like what do you mean
15:04i had sex are you kidding me he said we had sex yes oh my fucking hell i can't i
15:13can't
15:14we did not have sex absolutely not like no i really don't know who to believe at this point
15:22i want to believe my best friend i feel like that's logically the person that i should lean
15:27towards believing but i just feel like there's no way to tell who's lying and telling the truth
15:32but he told me that you came at him that you the first second you saw him you like wrapped
15:37your legs
15:37around him and you're like embracing him this big hug yeah i jumped up and hugged him and he grabbed
15:41my legs and pulled them up but i hugged him because he's taller than me so i had to go
15:44up
15:44like he's a victim like i came at him no it was literally the words like he that you manipulated
15:49him
15:52yeah are you kidding but like why would marciano like make this up i don't know
15:57like i almost want to like call him right now would you be open to that let's do it
16:06hey what are you doing working out um i just have a question i was able to talk to jesse
16:13and jesse is saying that you guys never had sex so i just like
16:19i did admit to everything she admitted to everything else though she said that like you guys
16:24kissed but she like swore in like her kid's life basically that she never had sex with you
16:29i said that that was what was gonna happen i don't know what you want me to say if that's
16:32her prerogative then that's her prerogative like i don't really want me to say that's fine
16:37if that's what she's saying then i'm just at this point like hey marciano i'm here hey
16:42marciano i'm here so but you know like genuinely you know that didn't happen right
16:47oh my god okay i remember i took a cialis and i remember like i had like cum stains in
16:57my shorts
16:59but okay whatever you say we did not have sex that didn't happen
17:05okay it didn't you know that okay sounds good mind-boggling to me it's like for me i'm the one
17:14who did something wrong but you're making it sound 10 times worse when i know i didn't do that
17:20i'm freaking layla where is she where is that skinny bitch i'm surprised jesse's not here and
17:26hasn't said anything to us because i'm like we're supposed to go to this together where the heck you at
17:31ho damn this food looks good what are those potatoes potatoes i think i wish we had our location
18:00that's not what happened like i don't know if there's like how i'm gonna prove this but i will
18:04prove this i'm so sorry like everyone's gonna be affected by this i feel so bad
18:15no this is like my worst nightmare like this is something that like me and jordan have been
18:19struggling with and like i didn't ever think would come out because we've worked through it but like
18:22now he's gonna be affected our kids are gonna be affecting our families like i just feel so bad
18:26you're not a bad person jesse you were going through a hard time you and jordan were literally
18:31on a break like i just don't want anyone to blame jordan like i just it's my fault i think
18:34i'm gonna
18:35go so i can talk to jordan i'm sorry and then i'll fill you in tomorrow but um thank you
18:39you know i
18:39haven't told any of the girls they had no idea thank you i didn't even know that i walked out
18:42right now
18:43so i'm gonna tell everyone i'm a little bit panicked because i never thought marciano would talk
18:49about our affair on camera and when this airs it's all going public and i have a lot of people
18:55in my life that are still actively mormons and infidelity is definitely frowned upon in the church
19:01and i'm really afraid of the backlash that's going to come with it
19:14the worst part of this whole thing is that marciano is lying he said we had sex and we didn't
19:20i'm terrified that jordan's going to believe him over me i've worked really hard to earn his trust
19:24back and now it feels like all of that progress is just going to go out the window
19:30hey um so layla talked to marciano and he told her everything
19:36it's all coming out and i'm freaking out
19:42yeah i can't do this okay i'm coming home
20:04i cried myself to sleep last night but then i had to wake up and be a mom and not
20:09let my kids
20:10know what's going on i don't want them to feel that from me just having to like do that while
20:16i'm dying inside is really hard i filled jordan in last night on everything that happened he was
20:23obviously not happy his first reactions were like we're not talking about this like i don't want to do
20:27this and it reopened some wounds but as we started discussing it more he did agree that we're going to
20:34share this story and we're going to try to get through it the best we can hey baby okay um
20:40i just
20:41took the kids to school how are you feeling after last night just wanted to chat and kind of like
20:48see
20:48where you're at
20:52i just feel broken me too i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm the one that did that to you
20:57i don't deserve to be treated this way i don't deserve the
21:01deceit i'm sorry for now how it's coming out i don't know why i did it um obviously we've had
21:07our struggles but i think it has more to do with me and i i was being stupid and i
21:12was going through
21:13a lot and i made stupid decisions and i'm really sorry for what i did to you there's dark parts
21:18of
21:19me that just sometimes want to throw up my hands and just say i don't want to do this anymore
21:23can i live with that that lingering disrespect can i live with that emasculating feelings
21:30that your decisions gave me his narrative is completely changing now and there are things
21:35that make me question the story um i just want to i would tell you right now
21:53but the question that i have to ask myself is are you still the person that i want to be
21:59with
22:01seeing how upset jordan is just kind of solidifies the thoughts i've been having that this is all my
22:08fault and this is so detrimental it's our relationship and to him as a person just like
22:14knowing what i've done to our family and like
22:19that i've put us in this situation makes me really sad and i just feel so regretful and i'm so
22:25disappointed in myself i think the only like silver lining i feel right now is you can tell your
22:32friends and your family and get comfort hopefully and i think that'll be healing for you for me i
22:39have to tell the girls and i'm just i'm so scared to talk to them i am really nervous to
22:45tell the girls
22:46about this because once this gets out it's another scandal for mom talk and that's really shitty because
22:52mom talk we've been trying to get back together and like be a sisterhood again and i feel like this
22:56is just going to break things apart
23:00i'm so sorry
23:16hello hi dude did your baby get so hard like look how hard it is right now it probably goes
23:22on its back
23:22and just like pushes up where's jesse by the way i'm like she better be here to do my hair
23:26i don't think she's coming also i hope not because i parked in her spot so
23:32jesse didn't show up at the minky event and now she's not here to get our hair done for layla's
23:36birthday we have not heard from her no texts no calls when jesse is sick she still comes around
23:42she'll be puking and come hug you which i think is disgusting but anyways i feel like i'm getting a
23:48little concerned because it's very out of the ordinary for her i feel like she's being weird
23:52she is being weird and she's so responsive and she's not being responsive
24:02i'm still getting over everything that happened last night a lot of things are definitely not adding
24:06up but at the end of the day this isn't my story to tell and i feel like it's only
24:10fair to let jesse
24:11tell the other girls herself hi hi how are you gonna curl my hair happy birthday at this point
24:19i'm just gonna take a step back and try to focus on my birthday this week wait your birthday's soon
24:23too huh when is it the 17th how old are you turning 25 my birthday gift was whitney leaving mom
24:31talk again i'm dead so who from mom talks all going who your birthday party tomorrow the four of us
24:38it's just us four again it's me you miranda and jesse but i also invited kate so that means that
24:44i
24:44feel like chase will probably come what are you talking if he's coming everyone's leaving why would
24:51you want to be around him i'm trying to be good with people well don't be chase is miranda's ex
24:57-husband
24:58obviously chase has evolved in the swinging situation i used to see chase a little bit as
25:02well and now he's seeing my friend kate and i feel like it's so awkward to invite her but not
25:06her
25:06boyfriend i mean just like who would do that i'm not gonna be anything that he's at it was like
25:12someone in mom talk who would suck it up and still go like michael would go if whitney was going
25:16right
25:17but she just wouldn't enjoy it i can't handle toxic men i can probably handle toxic women a lot
25:21better it's the men i feel like if he goes he's gonna start something i already feel it
25:25leila got duped by demi and she got duped by whitney and now she's getting duped by chase
25:30i can be duped by women but not toxic men so i feel like leila is being a little bit
25:35naive in
25:36this situation and with everything going on right now we should be protecting mom talk i just cannot
25:43i know that some of the girls have their feelings about chase and mom talk barely survived the
25:47halloween party we're talking about you your boyfriend's a fucking liar you're lying hey we're not
25:52doing this here no no get out so that was fun but kate and miranda both are assuring me that
25:58chase
25:58has been doing a lot of changing recently and he's just becoming a better person and he has a really
26:03cute brother named mason that i kind of want to get to announce he's just a walking red flag but
26:09if
26:09he's dating kate and if she's going to start coming around more but is she going to come around
26:13more we don't even know her because she's my friend i'm really trying to work on finding my
26:21voice in this group and i just don't want to make anyone uncomfortable but i don't know what to do
26:25in this situation what are you wearing to your birthday so the vibe is slutty not when we're
26:33pregnant it's not yes it is you can be slutty and pregnant how do you think you got pregnant
26:39on accident just kidding oh you know you want a drink yeah what do you got i got your favorites
27:01yeah don't show me your alcohol so yeah no no not that not those
27:08dakota has been someone who i've gotten really close to let's go sit down for a minute i want
27:13to talk to you about something he's the first person that i'm going to be telling about the
27:16marciano situation he's the only person that i know that's dealt with relationship struggles
27:22on such a public level and keeping this bottled up has been hell dude i i wanted to invite you
27:29over
27:29because you've been like super uh you've been super vulnerable with me and um i've been holding
27:39something in for a minute and uh it's just been eating me alive so when um jesse went out to
27:48um
27:48la for press marciano was there and they went out to the bars and uh she ended up having some
27:55drinks
27:55drinks and they ended up um kissing a couple times and she basically had like
28:01like an emotional affair for a few weeks
28:06it's just been tough because i haven't had anyone to talk to about it bro
28:11dude first off bro i wish you would have came to me sooner jordan
28:20i'm pretty surprised mostly just because jordan kept it from me for so long that's just a lot to
28:26carry around obviously from what i've gone through in my life i'm not judging jesse and i i can't i
28:33just
28:33feel for both of them i just hope that they can figure it out it's gonna be tough
28:40it's about you know explaining this to my oldest daughter
28:46that situation is so hard because just being a dad now for myself it really puts things in
28:52perspective about like just your family and just the lanes that you'll go to protect that
28:58that's a tough spot to be in it's super emasculating 100 it would uh it would do the same to
29:05me
29:05just remember dude at the end of the day it's between you and jesse like
29:10don't listen to anybody on the outside yeah everything coming out i can say from first-hand
29:16experience it sucks now you're gonna be hearing from the whole world making fun of him or calling
29:22his wife things jordan growing up mormon too the men are the providers that's what he's always seen
29:28his whole life now it's completely opposite there's nothing wrong with that it's great
29:32but i just think for a man that adds another layer of feeling not enough dude i'm just here
29:39for you you know from now on you freaking tell me shit dog dude how do you how do you
29:45take your
29:45hard times like what do you do to cope i say this because it has been the only thing that
29:50has ever
29:51helped me by just praying and i mean i'm pray with your heart dude like put everything into it
29:57and if you don't believe in god like no i do just believe in a higher power i believe i
30:02believe in
30:03jesus yeah so it's like for me i i turn everything to that i'm really dreading telling friends and
30:11family about what's occurred it really sucks and tonight is layla's birthday party i'm dreading it
30:19focus on doing what's best for you and your family that's it everything else out of your control
30:25what everybody says yeah fuck them
30:34be someone to confide in because everybody else is going crazy
30:49we're gonna go pick up mama right now baby
30:59hi baby hi how was it it was it was long therapy is exhausting
31:09did you do it oh yeah jen affleck take one don't forget the affleck
31:17when i took a break from mom talk from my mental health we decided to move back to arizona
31:23zach has still got five to six months to decide on whether he wants to go back to med school
31:28we're just using that time to focus on our marriage because when i first found out i was pregnant i
31:34was
31:34to be honest like mortified
31:42i think everyone knows about postpartum depression but i think what's not talked about enough is
31:52prenatal depression and that's what i dealt with not being able to get out of bed isolating yourself
31:59feeling worthless but now i feel honestly grateful for this pregnancy because this baby is what's
32:07gotten me to where i'm at now i wouldn't trade anything that we went through this last year
32:15because it made me realize what's actually most important like my kids
32:24and like my relationship with you
32:28and like who i want to become
32:31zach and i have gone through a lot in the past year
32:35and yeah through time therapy and healing we're finally in a better place
32:40so how are you feeling about the girls and are you wanting to get back involved with them
32:46feeling definitely a lot more hopeful
32:50yeah i just feel like sometimes you like look to these girls like for support and empowerment
32:54and like you get let down a lot
32:57i hope that this next time you guys can be there for each other
33:00yeah
33:01a lot of what i've gone through i think a lot of other girls have gone through too
33:06they just haven't talked about it
33:07and
33:08it's a good point
33:09i feel like we need to have more of those deep conversations so we can be there to lift
33:15and support each other
33:16in a few weeks zach and i are going to be driving back to utah and we're going to decide
33:21if we should have the baby in utah or in arizona to be honest since leaving mom talk i definitely
33:27have a lot of fomo but i know that i'm going to have to have a lot of tough conversations
33:32with
33:32the girls
33:34hi can i do the number 12 uh crispy tender dinner
33:38sorry ranch
33:39uh sorry sorry can i do ranch as well
33:42my uh my wife's pregnant so i think the cravings are hitting her
33:48i'm still scarred from everything that happened with demi and jesse
33:53hopefully they can give me an apology for the way that they've treated me
33:58but i'm also very stressed because the last time i had a conversation with jesse i said something
34:04about her husband having a small wiener
34:12yeah
34:14no that's everything
34:35we've been so anxious i know i'm sorry
34:40no wait what i'm like we're gonna have to shit when we walk in
34:44no i'm sorry
34:45you know we have the anxious shit so why would you do that
34:48i know i'm such a bad friend
34:49i'm really scared to talk to macy and mikaela
34:51i love them so much and their friendships meant everything so i don't want to lose that
34:56what are you doing
34:57i'm all right
35:00um i'm gonna give you a backstory
35:03basically jordan and i have really been struggling for years
35:06and it got really bad and in september i cheated on jordan
35:16it was with marciano
35:21i'm sorry it's just it's been really hard but anyway jordan's known the whole time
35:26basically it was two kisses that's it
35:29i am an absolute shock i don't think my brain is processing like what jesse just told us
35:34i've never seen jesse cry or break down so i'm just trying to be a good friend and be here
35:39for her
35:40but there's also a part of my mind that's like
35:44i still just don't have words
35:46don't have words
35:46i've been like sick to my stomach because like you guys have been so
35:50amazing to me
35:51i wouldn't blame anyone if they didn't want to be my friend
35:54no oh my gosh
35:56no
35:57that's not a true friend
35:58like i don't think any less of you
35:59i don't either
36:00i'm still here to support you
36:01thank you
36:02i think it's not to say
36:03like oh i'm so happy you did this
36:05but it's not going to make me like think any less of you
36:08or like put any shame and guilt on you
36:10we all make mistakes
36:11no one's place to judge
36:12yeah
36:12it's okay i don't deserve sympathy at all
36:15no it's okay but we still love you
36:18shouldn't have happened
36:19but we did continue to text for a few weeks
36:21and that was it
36:22so anyway i guess he decides to say also i had sex with jesse
36:30my brain is like scattered
36:32i i know
36:33and me and mercy on it ended amicably like
36:37i've been trying to wrap my head around him
36:39that is so disgusting to me and slimy
36:41yeah
36:41oh i don't like that one
36:42but he blacked out and he fell asleep on my bed
36:44and it was after we kissed one time and i was up all night sick about it
36:48so i i was coherent the whole night i didn't get any sleep
36:50and then he was like well there was like a cum stain in my underwear
36:53so like i figured
36:55i'm like have you ever heard of like a horny guy having pre-cum in his sleeve
36:58like that happens
36:59like also you're on drugs i can't control what your body's doing
37:02what is wrong with people
37:04like no genuinely
37:05people are okay
37:06no it's fine it's all my fault
37:07like this is my own doing
37:08like i created this nightmare
37:10but like now i need to fix it
37:12and i know the truth
37:13that's all that matters the people i love
37:14like that's all i need to focus on
37:16but i will not sit back and let him spin that narrative
37:19because i know what happened
37:21like yeah yeah
37:22macy and mikayla are so supportive of what i'm telling them
37:25but i don't know if they fully believe me
37:27because i do know that it looks bad
37:29i'm just speechless
37:32i don't even know what to say
37:33yeah
37:34oh my gosh what a nightmare
37:36right now with what i'm going through
37:38i need mom talk support more than ever
37:40so i really need to find a way
37:42where i can prove my innocence
37:44and shut down this rumor
37:45love you guys
37:46i love you thanks for having us over
37:47thank you
37:48thank you guys again for listening to me
37:49i'm so sorry again
37:51that is not what i expected that to be
37:53no i was in shock
37:55i was shook it
37:58i made like a cheese fry after that
38:01you have no idea
38:03how confused i am right now
38:05i bet
38:06like i every
38:07like i think i keep replying
38:08jesse telling us she had an affair
38:10over and over my head
38:11before i met jesse i did hear rumors
38:14that she cheated in her past relationship
38:16so part of me questions whether this is the whole truth
38:19well i'm like i was with her the whole time
38:21in the actual villa
38:23she's really good at like acting like nothing's wrong
38:26people she did leave a lot to get like pretzels and a coke
38:29she was like i'm gonna get pretzels
38:30i'm gonna go get a coke
38:31she's like i'm gonna shit
38:32and i was like i know you're not eating that much
38:34jordan's always just really in your face
38:36and he is kind of a dick
38:38but i had no inkling that something was wrong with their marriage
38:42and just motivates me to make sure that my marriage is in a good place
38:46because it's the first time in my life that i think i've felt safe with somebody
38:52and i talked to jesse about it so many times
38:54well just about like
38:55you think they had sex
38:56i just i don't know what to believe
39:00something feels very off about this
39:03with this new scandal that is about to quite literally rock mom talk
39:07i feel like trust is more important now than ever
39:10originally trust jesse
39:11we need to know that she's telling the whole truth
39:13i don't think anything could have prepared us for this
39:16oh lordy
39:18that's why i'm playing the church
39:19they don't like your drinks
39:20because things like these happen
39:21we have alcohol
39:24she shouldn't have left the church
39:25i'm just kidding
39:54so tonight we are in salt lake for layla's
39:56birthday dinner
39:57it's all the mom talk girls plus marana
39:59the dad talk guys are just across the street
40:01we're gonna meet up with them after our dinner
40:03we're here for layla's birthday
40:06how's it going
40:07how are you
40:08good
40:08okay thank you
40:09i appreciate it
40:11tonight is all about celebrating layla
40:13however there is some mom talk business that needs to be conducted
40:17and that is the fact that demie texted me and michaela
40:20as soon as we got home from jesse's
40:22and then jesse told us that jordan caught brett driving by her house
40:27when jesse was telling us about the affair with marciano
40:30and then demie started making offensive videos about mom talk
40:33approved
40:35excellent argument
40:36approved
40:37i don't know what demie wants out of this situation
40:40like is she trying to hurt mom talk
40:41something definitely feels off here
40:44have you guys been talking more about what was going on with jordan jesse
40:49yeah
40:56tonight's the first time that jordan and i are going to go to a public event together
41:00since we started telling people about my affair
41:07jordan did think it was a good idea that we do this together to just show that we are a
41:11united front
41:12and it means a lot to me
41:13and it means a lot to me
41:17this beat really makes me move right there
41:20oh my gosh
41:23oh my gosh
41:24i love it
41:25everyone with the leather
41:27i know
41:28it looks so good
41:30oh you look so long
41:32i'm getting the steaks
41:33i need my iron
41:35my meat
41:39okay
41:40well i just wanted to address a little bit of the elephant in the room
41:44and it's not us
41:46just kidding
41:47i'm like it's not me actually
41:48so
41:50so demie texted me and macy and was like
41:52oh you guys know
41:53and we were like
41:53how did you
41:54well she said like now that
41:55now that you know
41:57we can talk about it
41:58now that you guys know dot dot dot
41:59like can we talk about this
42:00and how would you know that that's what we're talking about
42:02and how would you know the exact timing
42:04that we were gonna be there
42:05yeah
42:05yeah
42:05it's just weird
42:06oh hell
42:08now what
42:09why do you care so much about what's going on
42:11if you don't want to be a part of this experience
42:12like stay the fuck out of it then
42:16demie knows what
42:17i'm so confused
42:20demie she's been trying to reach me ever since
42:22i met with marciano at the hotel
42:24so yeah i've been kind of dodging her phone calls for the last little bit
42:30i just it doesn't make sense to me but okay so how did brett know to drive by at that
42:33time
42:35he like was driving slow like looking which is creepy
42:38i'm just confused why anyone's giving demie information right now because demie chose to leave mom talk
42:44and she was a really bad friend to me last year
42:46i don't know who the mole is but i feel like layla and miranda are the two best options
42:51i also don't know why she cares so much
42:53if you're constantly having your husband drive by my house that means that you left but you're still obsessed with
42:58this experience
43:00it's definitely weird
43:01i don't understand i did not i can show you my phone logs
43:03if you want me to
43:04brett conveniently drove by jesse's house
43:06i have no idea how she did that do you want to see my phone logs
43:08well you can delete things too it just doesn't make sense
43:10that you'd be driving by and know that i was there too
43:13when i drove in macy's car
43:15right now for a situation that's literally nothing to do with me
43:18you're the only one talking to demie
43:19no one i didn't tell her shit
43:21i genuinely have no idea
43:22it's my birthday dinner for crying out loud
43:24can we just lay off of me for two seconds and let me have one goddamn good birthday
43:28i don't know who the source is i don't know who the mole is but it's not me
43:31and i will die on that hill
43:33that's what year 24 is for is not taking people's bullshit
43:37i am gonna be nervous about anyone who's friends with demie
43:41like she is up your guys's asses trying to get information about me trying to talk about this
43:45she already no but she didn't get new information
43:47i'm just telling you guys i'm gonna be very cautious and aware about what i say in front of anyone
43:51like if i was like feeding information to people i would have told marina about it
43:58so you don't know anything that's going on just right now i know nothing
44:01she still has no idea right now what the hell we're talking about
44:04she's so lost
44:05i don't want to like pressure you into telling me anything that you don't feel comfortable telling me
44:12marciano he told layla we had sex and we never had sex
44:15so i'm like you're disgusting because i kissed you twice
44:18oh damn i did not see that one coming
44:23that's what happened jesse is one of the most honest people that i've met
44:28which is what makes this so shocking
44:30however based on my trust issues i have a little bit of doubt
44:36i feel like maybe she could be lying
44:40how are you like doing though are you guys doing good or as good as you can be
44:43i mean it's up and down i think the last couple days have been hard just because we're trying to
44:47navigate this now
44:47but there's going to be judgment from people who don't know all the details
44:51and then also people saying things that aren't true too that i'm having to fight
44:54like this isn't just it coming out now i have to fight a narrative that's not true
44:57and that's i think what's been really hard
44:59i feel like mom talk is crumbling right now like our members are dwindling down
45:04feels like there's a mole in the group and we also don't know for sure if jesse is telling the
45:08whole truth
45:08and if we can't trust each other then what do we even have left
45:11it's really hard and i'm doing okay but like it's cool
45:14yeah it's a lot and for it to come out like this sucks
45:17but me and jordan are just gonna like use it as a chance to better ourselves
45:21and like go to therapy and work through this and like hopefully come out on the other side you know
45:26yeah
45:28oh
45:29so how you doing
45:31oh i haven't slept in a couple days
45:33so to have it all unravel
45:36it's super easy to spiral
45:37yeah
45:38because the whole world's gonna know now
45:40i know
45:41and have that exposed for anyone to see i imagine is terrible
45:46it's emasculating as hell and it's embarrassing
45:49i don't want to be looked at less of a man because my wife did what she did
45:53and i don't want to be looked at less of a man because i decided to stay around because of
45:57it
45:57if he's choosing to stay and work on it then that's all that matters you know
46:01we've been working through it so like it would have sucked if at the time it got exposed publicly
46:05because we were like not sure what was going to happen
46:07so do you 100 trust jesse's story
46:13i have those doubts
46:18i made a mistake like i will never downplay that like i did a really bad thing but i didn't
46:24do what he's saying
46:26let's just maybe plan anytime the girls are going to la let's just go also go we'll go out there
46:32what someone's gonna do someone's gonna do
46:34and do you feel like you've 100 forgiven her
47:04you know i had
47:06i don't want to sit here any longer i'm gonna follow her next
47:16hello how are you how are you okay it's time to get this party on track for our girl layla
47:22i think it's clear we could all use a little bit of fun right now but not too much fun
47:25considering the group we're in
47:28how was that i'm just sick of talking about hi how are you how are you good to see you
47:32so you have a business event in the area my friends she invited me and jeremy to go meet her
47:37at a another influencer event so it's just round the corner
47:41so you're like hopping in between the two how are you how are you good thank you
47:47oh my goodness i'm so on i know
47:51see you fucking for real oh no oh
47:55oh
48:01what the f is he doing here
48:04we just can't get rid of him
48:12hello you're here
48:13how are you doing
48:16chase has a podcast
48:17where he likes to talk shit on everyone on mom talk
48:20he insulted jesse about her business
48:22you know the hair girl
48:23loaded i've heard some mixed reviews
48:26about jay-z styles hair
48:27he insulted taylor for her affair that she had
48:30taylor breaking ball arm
48:31he's gonna be hating us dude
48:34and then he said something like i only have a social media platform because my baby daddy died
48:37died in a car accident
48:40i'm not i ain't gonna touch this one
48:42i'm just telling you what like yeah
48:43what made her rise to prominence
48:45chase is a scumbag and no one even listens to his podcast
48:48so good luck with your 20 views you get
49:03not only am i worried about chase finding out about the affair
49:06and exposing that on his podcast reviews
49:08but if he hears about the lie that marciano's saying about me
49:11he's gonna definitely try to blow that up and make it bigger than it is
49:14that's his mo especially with mom talk
49:16hello
49:33earlier chase called me to apologize for things he said in the past about mom talk
49:37i wanted to first and foremost say that i apologize wholeheartedly for the things that i said
49:44on the podcast
49:45i probably should have this conversation with a couple other people
49:48yeah
49:49i invited chase tonight because he said he wanted to come and apologize to all the other girls and their
49:53husbands
49:54and he's also dating my really good friend kate
49:56so i felt like it was only fair to let him come tonight and give him the opportunity
49:59what's new with you are you still dating mindy
50:01no
50:03no
50:04how about you i heard you
50:06i've seen someone for a little bit yeah
50:08we broke up like two months ago
50:10just didn't work out just different morals standing in the line
50:13he wanted someone that was more like active in the church
50:16really
50:16that's not me
50:17so yeah
50:22i don't see mary
50:23do you want to go to the bathroom really quick
50:25okay let's go
50:26we're gonna run to the restroom real quick
50:31me and chase we had a really good talk about just like
50:34kind of laying on the sword and like
50:36apologizing
50:36yeah i'm not gonna be having a conversation
50:39we have a lot bigger things going so
50:41you guys okay
50:42we'll talk later
50:43is jesse okay
50:47kate has always been like a long time family friend
50:50but i know that chase is gonna try and get his five minutes of fame tonight
50:54and i'm just not in a place to give that to him right now
50:57how are we doing
50:58oh we're doing so good leila i was not expecting
51:02you know our favorite person to walk in the door today
51:04i know
51:05yeah he gave me a call
51:07he did what
51:08he called me
51:09yeah
51:09so
51:10who gives a
51:11i feel like i'm good with him though
51:17no i'm pissed
51:19because i invited someone to my birthday
51:21yeah but don't tell us he's not coming
51:22and then he called me before this
51:24you want to tell us the dinner why didn't you tell us then
51:25why didn't you tell us it's my birthday thing
51:27you can still give us a heads up
51:29when we are uncomfortable around a man
51:32that has harassed us online for years
51:34it is appropriate to give
51:35exactly how do you get over it
51:37yeah but we're not over it we don't want to be around that kind of person
51:40who would have been like hey by the way he is coming
51:42like he is like sorry
51:43what would that have changed
51:44then maybe wouldn't have come at all
51:51honestly just like really fucking pissed right now
51:54i wanted to give him the opportunity to come tonight
51:56and just kind of leave the past in the past
51:58i'm in this era right now i'm trying to stand up for myself
52:00so this upsets some of the girls me inviting him then that's their issue
52:05he didn't think it was that big a video
52:06it's not even about that
52:07then what is it
52:08i don't give a shit to explain it to you actually
52:10okay cool
52:13it pisses me off
52:14because you don't give a sense of respect to telling us
52:17is there a good time to be trapped
52:19um no
52:21you'll probably you'll get that opportunity it's just not going to be tonight
52:25sure
52:26let's just say this
52:27if he's a leech and wanting to leech onto something
52:29if someone doesn't want a leech to be on them
52:31they have the right to just not go to an event
52:33okay yeah you guys have every right to leave right now
52:37i'm not staying there
52:39you guys make literally everything so fucking negative all the time
52:41well great happy birthday
52:43okay thanks so much
52:46all chase does is trash talk mom talk for clout
52:49because that's the only way he can get views
52:51and to me it's very disrespectful that leila would allow him to come
52:56jesse really mad at me
52:57i think i think like something is going on with the family
53:01i don't know what's going on here they just started hiding
53:04it's like if we are your friends then you would have told us
53:06so clearly we're not friends to you
53:08so you're gonna choose this disgusting man who's talked some shit on you
53:11and all your friends
53:13i i can't i'm sorry
53:15what the hell is going on
53:18i feel like he said things about people online
53:21i'm not going to discredit what he's done
53:24i'm staying until jesse leaves i guess
53:26after someone apologizes i move on
53:28you're validated in that
53:29we do not need a big dramatic fight at leila's birthday party
53:33especially because of what just happened in my life
53:35what i'm now bringing to mom talk
53:36i just want to get in the middle of this and try to remedy it
53:39i feel like the reaction is so over the top and unnecessary
53:43and i feel like that's what like
53:45that's their feeling and so they just would appreciate it
53:47then communicate that then rather than like
53:48blowing up and like cussing them
53:50i'm just so tired of this shit
53:52being at this party feels overwhelming
53:54jesse and i are in a place of crisis
53:56and for jesse to be getting involved in the drama
54:02feels like i don't have any value
54:04i shouldn't have to give give give give give
54:05and they don't want to bring that
54:08there's just no reason
54:10i'm just sick of painting this smile
54:12this doesn't sit well with me
54:14and i can't be here right now
54:27dude i just i just can't be in here anymore
54:32i met ben writer
54:35jesse's yelling at layla
54:36and then jesse's talking shit about chase
54:39and it's just like dude like if you want to come pick me up
54:42i just can't be around this anymore
54:47right now i feel frankly emotionally abandoned by my wife
54:51makes you really think about who you made your choice
54:55in deciding to marry
54:57and it is something that i do need to take some time
55:01to figure out for myself
55:04and i don't know what's going to happen
55:05welcome to the blind girls
55:09welcome to the show
55:11welcome to the show
55:13crazy can't move
55:14now we can't
55:16do you want
55:18oh my god
55:21is that awful
55:23jordan left by the way
55:24what do you mean
55:25he left home
55:26like went home are you sure
55:27jace i'm going in the elevator
55:29oh my god
55:30my life
55:36hello
55:37welcome in bitches
55:39hey let's go
55:40are we gonna die
55:41we don't know yet
55:41woo
55:42mom talks about
55:44any of you guys done anal
55:46either you swing
55:47or you have anal sex
55:48she has a good ass
55:49i've been wanting to talk to you guys
55:51do we have to do that here
55:56it's like a common theme in our friendship
55:58it's toxic men
55:59no
56:02you have to act and be a certain way for people to love and accept you and for god to
56:07accept you
56:07you know i support you either way
56:09yeah
56:10there's a lot of things i don't resonate with anymore when it comes to the church i just wanted to
56:14fit in really badly
56:15in utah i get called whitewashed a lot
56:17the fact that you even were gonna try and keep this a secret
56:20you're my mom
56:21stop sticking up for him please
56:23we're fighting for our marriages and the girls are just putting us through hell
56:27he's feeling rejected
56:28it's getting harder
56:30if the roles were reversed you guys wouldn't be okay with it
56:33no one said leave jordan
56:34i wish we got back
56:38why did you lie to layla about us
56:40i was being influenced
56:41influenced by who
56:46everyone's just a little concerned that you're still posted to me
56:50we have a leak in mom talk
56:52i don't like to give anyone blind loyalty
56:55would you be open to the lie detector test
56:57you ready moment of truth
56:59he's literally sitting right here
57:01oh my god
57:02why are you here we're not gonna have people coming and going why are you here today
57:08i'm gonna start my own mom talk
57:10i'm sorry i'm sorry sorry
57:12we need to come together they can be the crazy ones
57:15you know nothing
57:16you know nothing
57:18you know nothing
57:18she turned the whole group against me
57:20that proves exactly who you are
57:22that will make your life a miserable fucking hell
57:24look at the bottom of this
57:26all right how do you want to start this
57:29mom talk is sisterhood
57:31we're gonna get through anything
58:06we're gonna have to Teilen
58:07we have to start my life
58:07everything
58:08where are you
58:08what are you going to say
58:08to eem
58:12i do the same thing
58:14this may be a lot of words
58:14you
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