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04:06on Europe Today here on Euronews.
04:08We'll keep a very close eye on the next couple of weeks there.
04:11But moving on from one crucial election to another,
04:14Hungarians will be heading to the polls on the 12th of April.
04:18But ahead of the key votes,
04:19a major scandal has hit the Hungarian government
04:21regarding alleged leaks of private information to Russia.
04:25Jakub Janos takes a look.
04:29A political bomb exploded in Brussels.
04:31The reports regarding the Hungarian foreign minister
04:36allegedly disclosing to his Russian counterpart
04:39the closed-door ministerial-level discussion in the council
04:43are greatly concerning.
04:45And we expect the Hungarian government to provide the clarifications.
04:49So what's going on here?
04:52A Washington Post investigation claims Hungarian foreign minister
04:56Peter Siarto spent years stepping out of confidential EU meetings
05:00to directly phone Russian officials.
05:04And one security official stated
05:06that Moscow has basically been behind the table
05:09of every EU meeting for years.
05:11The European Commission wants answers,
05:14but orders are not so shocked.
05:16Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk
05:18admitted long-standing suspicions,
05:21revealing he strictly limits what he says out loud
05:23during these talks.
05:25And Budapest is not hiding their connections.
05:28Siyarto has visited Moscow 16 times
05:31since Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
05:35Meanwhile, Hungary is actively blocking
05:37a 90 billion EU loan for Kiev.
05:40In an unexpected burst of honesty,
05:43Siyarto admitted calling Russian officials
05:45before and after key EU meetings.
05:47He claims he also speaks to American,
05:50Turkish and Israeli officials,
05:52arguing this is just diplomacy.
05:54However, this is the same minister
05:57who was awarded Russia's Order of Friendship
06:00a year before Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
06:03And the Americans, Turks and Israelis
06:05have not handed him any similar medal.
06:09Perhaps the only thing left to add here
06:11is a quote from a movie Naked Gun.
06:14Freeze this purse!
06:16Nothing to see here!
06:18Huh, it's quite funny, but it's just a pity.
06:21All of that is about the future of European security,
06:24especially since over 70% of Europeans
06:27are now highly worried about nearby conflicts,
06:31according to the latest Eurobarometer survey.
06:34So who is laughing now?
06:40And for more on this story,
06:41we're joined here on set by Euro News' EU editor,
06:44Maria Tadeo.
06:45Good morning, Maria.
06:45So just fill us in.
06:46What is the latest now?
06:47Well, look, Maeve, this is a scandal that continues.
06:50And of course, at the core of it is allegations,
06:53very serious allegations,
06:54that Hungary shared private EU information with Russia.
06:58But we need to get the timeline right,
07:00because of course, over the weekend,
07:02this all started with a newspaper report,
07:04The Washington Post,
07:05which cited a European security source
07:08that suggested that the Hungarian foreign minister
07:10in particular would share information
07:12almost in real time with his Russian counterpart,
07:16Sergei Lavrov.
07:16This report also said that in some situations,
07:19he even spoke to him during breaks of meetings.
07:22So as I say, the allegations are extremely serious.
07:25Now, initially, the Hungarian foreign minister,
07:28Ciarto, said that this was all fake.
07:30He said it is fake news
07:31and that this was not true.
07:33Then, of course, on the Monday,
07:34a transcript of a call,
07:36allegedly between the Hungarian foreign minister
07:39and the Russian foreign minister,
07:40began to do the rounds.
07:41And then Ciarto changed the tune to say,
07:45well, this is normal because we speak to many countries
07:49and that is a part of diplomacy.
07:52Yesterday in comments to Euronews,
07:53which I want to read out to you
07:55and hopefully we can put up on the board,
07:57the Hungarian foreign ministry said
07:59that they talked to Russia,
08:01the Americans, the Turks, Serbia,
08:03and therefore it is completely normal
08:04that we consult with these countries
08:06if necessary before and after the meetings.
08:08So now he is talking about
08:09before and after EU meetings,
08:11about the consequences of those decisions.
08:14So you see how the timeline has now changed
08:16from his total fake news
08:18to this is part of normal diplomacy.
08:20Having said that,
08:21we should know that Russia is not just any country
08:24for the EU.
08:25Russia is heavily sanctioned by the EU
08:27because of the invasion of Ukraine.
08:29Increasingly, a number of EU countries
08:31consider it a hostile country to the EU,
08:34certainly a security risk for the European Union.
08:37And none of the countries represented
08:39across the board in EU meetings
08:41have given their consent
08:43so that private information,
08:44which is supposed to be confidential
08:46under the principle of sincere cooperation,
08:48be shared with Russia.
08:50So this is far from normal.
08:52If anything, the position of the Hungarians
08:53is a total anomaly.
08:55And that's why we've seen
08:56Prime Minister Donald Tusk of Poland.
08:57He's furious, right?
08:58Well, the Polish are really pushing
09:00into this line.
09:01Yesterday, the Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk,
09:04the behavior of the Hungarian foreign minister
09:06is, quote, a disgrace.
09:08He also repeated a line
09:10that he said over the weekend.
09:11He is the first, and at this point,
09:13only EU leader to have commented on this.
09:15But he did say over the weekend
09:16that for many years he suspected this.
09:18And therefore, that's why Poland
09:20is very cautious about the information it shares.
09:22and also introduced a new element
09:24that goes beyond the EU
09:25to now focus on NATO,
09:27saying that there were concerns
09:29going all the way back to 2019
09:30that Hungary is also providing information
09:33related to NATO.
09:34And this is delegate
09:35because, of course,
09:36you're talking about core security.
09:38Let's take a look.
09:42As early as 2019,
09:45as I recall correctly,
09:46Lithuania requested
09:47that the Hungarian delegation
09:49should be excluded
09:50from meetings at NATO.
09:51They informed that they suspect
09:53the Hungarian delegation
09:54to pass highly confidential information
09:57to Moscow.
10:01So that is, of course,
10:03the Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk,
10:05who said, again,
10:06the behavior from Hungary
10:07is, quote,
10:08a disgraced NATO mattress
10:09because here you're talking about
10:10core security capabilities,
10:13incredibly sensitive.
10:13I should also note
10:15just very briefly,
10:16the Polish government
10:17is also using this
10:19to tackle the Polish president,
10:21Nawrowski,
10:21who went to Hungary this week
10:23to celebrate
10:24the Polish-Hungarian friendship.
10:26What the Polish government says,
10:28of course,
10:28is that this shows poor judgment
10:30on behalf of the Polish president,
10:31who yesterday,
10:32he's getting a lot of heat on this,
10:34repeated that nothing has changed
10:35the position of Poland remains
10:37that Vladimir Putin is, quote,
10:38a war criminal.
10:40And meanwhile,
10:40what can Brussels do?
10:42What can the Commission do?
10:42Well, that's a very good question.
10:44It's a question
10:44that I put to sources yesterday.
10:46Some of them told me,
10:47look, this is a scandal.
10:48It's outrageous.
10:49It's unacceptable,
10:50but also said,
10:52color me shocked,
10:53color me surprised.
10:54There's been concerns for years
10:56now that when you talk
10:57to the Hungarians,
10:57you're not just talking
10:58to the Hungarian authorities.
11:00A diplomat told me,
11:01this is why we've switched
11:02the way that we work.
11:03Increasingly,
11:04there's a coalition of the willing.
11:05So countries that get together
11:07that do not include Hungary
11:09to talk about security,
11:10there's also now a question about
11:12should the format
11:13of meetings be changed.
11:15Sometimes phones
11:15do get taken in.
11:16There is restrictive format,
11:18but this is not always
11:19applied into every meeting.
11:20And we've seen that
11:21the head of the European
11:22Diplomacy,
11:23Kaya Kalas,
11:24is now demanding an answer
11:25from the Hungarians
11:26saying,
11:27did you share or not
11:28information,
11:29whether it was before
11:30or after.
11:31The point we need to stress
11:32is that none of the EU 26
11:34countries around the table
11:35consented to this information
11:37being shared with Russia
11:38in any way,
11:39shape,
11:40or form.
11:40and this is certainly
11:41going to now prompt
11:42a conversation around
11:43how do you deal
11:44with a country like Hungary
11:45and is there a different way
11:47in which sensitive information
11:48should be shared
11:49across the EU institutions.
11:51As I said,
11:52it doesn't come as a surprise,
11:53but it now highlights
11:54what many member states
11:55have now said
11:56has become a core problem,
11:57which is the use
11:58and the sharing
11:59of confidential information
12:00related to EU fundamental matters
12:03like foreign policy
12:04and security.
12:05OK, Maria Steyo,
12:06thank you so much
12:06for that very comprehensive update.
12:08We'll keep an eye
12:08on yournews.com
12:09for your reporting.
12:11But now,
12:11moving on,
12:12the war in Iran
12:13is still escalating
12:14despite claims
12:15from President Trump
12:16that peace talks
12:17were imminent.
12:18On the one hand,
12:19the Pentagon has ordered
12:20about 2,000 soldiers
12:21to be deployed
12:22to the Middle East,
12:23but on the other hand,
12:24the US has sent Iran
12:25a 15-point plan
12:26to end the war
12:27in the region.
12:28Meanwhile,
12:28Pakistan has offered
12:30to host talks
12:30between the US,
12:31Israel and Iran
12:32to try to end the war.
12:34For more,
12:34we can cross now
12:35to Dubai
12:35where our regional correspondent
12:37Jane Witherspoon
12:38is standing by for us
12:39this morning.
12:40Jane,
12:40any hope of diplomacy here?
12:42We heard Iran says
12:43the US only wants to talk
12:44on its terms.
12:47Well, yes,
12:48President Trump has said
12:49that those talks
12:50are happening,
12:51that the US
12:51are talking
12:52to the right people.
12:54He's also alluded
12:55very cryptically
12:57to a very big present
13:00in the way of oil
13:01and gas
13:02being gifted
13:02from Tehran.
13:04Now, as you mentioned,
13:05several media agencies
13:06are reporting
13:06on that 15-point plan
13:08that has apparently
13:09been given to Iran
13:10from the US
13:11via Pakistan.
13:12However,
13:13Iranian officials
13:14are still denying
13:16that these talks
13:17are even taking place.
13:19Now, in Doha yesterday,
13:20there was a Ministry
13:21of Foreign Affairs briefing
13:22where the authorities said
13:24they will not be
13:25mediating these talks
13:26as they're too busy
13:27protecting and defending
13:29their country.
13:30They did say,
13:31however,
13:31Iran has been here
13:32for millennia.
13:33Countries need to live
13:35and work together
13:36and it's now really
13:37up to Iran
13:38to reinforce
13:39that trust
13:40across the region.
13:41And meanwhile,
13:42Jade,
13:42what is the general
13:43mood there?
13:44Is still daily life
13:44very much disrupted?
13:47Well, yes,
13:48I must say that
13:49the attacks
13:49are still continuing.
13:51However,
13:52they have dropped
13:53a little bit.
13:54It feels a little bit calmer.
13:55However,
13:55overnight,
13:56we are having
13:56the military jets
13:57patrolling through the night.
13:59It feels like
14:00every five minutes.
14:01Now,
14:01across the wider region,
14:03of course,
14:04Lebanon is...
14:12Okay,
14:12apologies to our viewers
14:13there for that
14:14technical difficulty.
14:15But as you heard there,
14:16Jane Witherspoon
14:17reporting for us there
14:18from Dubai,
14:19alluding to the atrocities
14:20in Lebanon.
14:21Well,
14:21on that point of Lebanon,
14:22coming up,
14:23we'll be joined by
14:24Barham Saleh,
14:25the UN High Commissioner
14:26for Refugees.
14:28A refugee himself
14:30who fled
14:30as a young Kurd
14:31from repression
14:32in Iraq.
14:33He spent years
14:34and years in exile.
14:35But then one day
14:36actually became
14:37the president
14:37of Iraq
14:38back in 2018,
14:40a position he held
14:41until 2022.
14:43Welcome, sir.
14:44Pleasure to have you
14:44here with us.
14:45Thank you for having me.
14:46So just describe
14:47the situation
14:48on the ground
14:48in Lebanon.
14:50It's a very dire situation.
14:52More than a million people
14:53have already been displaced
14:54and it's in very,
14:56very harsh conditions.
14:57Our teams are working
14:59to deliver assistance
15:00and in that regard,
15:01I have to say,
15:02EU has been
15:03generous
15:04to providing
15:06two jets
15:07of supplies,
15:08also the government
15:09of Italy
15:09as well as
15:10Irish aid,
15:11but we need more.
15:12Indeed,
15:12the European Union
15:13has been sending
15:14millions in aid,
15:15but whereas the European Union
15:16has no say here
15:17in how this war
15:18will play out,
15:19how bad will the situation
15:20get in Lebanon
15:21in your view?
15:21I hope
15:23this thing
15:24will be put behind us
15:25before long
15:25because we need peace.
15:27This conflict
15:27has gone on already
15:28for far too long.
15:30It's highly destabilizing,
15:31and it is escalating
15:32and I have to say
15:34also human lives
15:36are at stake.
15:37The impact on civilians
15:38across the region
15:39is phenomenal,
15:41is profound.
15:42We already,
15:43as I said,
15:44about a million people
15:44have been internally
15:45displaced in Lebanon.
15:47Nearly 600,000
15:49to a million households
15:51in Iran
15:52have been displaced.
15:53Of course,
15:54there has been
15:54significant population
15:56movements in the Gulf,
15:57not to mention Iraq
16:00that has been subject
16:00to terrible attacks,
16:02including yesterday
16:03in the Kurdistan region,
16:05and the civilians
16:06across the region
16:07in Israel,
16:08in Lebanon,
16:09in the Gulf,
16:10in Iran,
16:12are being affected
16:13in a profound way,
16:14and in that context also,
16:15this conflict
16:17is spilling beyond
16:18the region,
16:18immediate region.
16:19We are seeing
16:20a lot of Afghan refugees
16:22in Iran
16:22and in Pakistan
16:23are being forced
16:25to go back
16:25under adverse conditions
16:27to Afghanistan.
16:28All of this combined
16:30is really presenting us
16:31with a terrible
16:32humanitarian challenge.
16:34Pakistan have offered
16:35to mediate here.
16:36Any hope in those?
16:37Let's hope that
16:38this will lead
16:39to some useful,
16:40tangible peace arrangement.
16:43This region needs peace.
16:44This conflict cannot go on
16:46like this,
16:47destabilizing
16:48and impacting
16:50human lives
16:50across the region.
16:51And I hope that
16:53we need a durable
16:53and just peace
16:55that will not
16:55put us in a place
16:57where six months
16:58from now
16:58or a year from now
16:59we will have
17:00another recurrence
17:01of this type of things.
17:02This region cannot afford
17:03these cycles of violence.
17:04And you describe
17:05so many people
17:05on the move
17:06in the region.
17:07Should Europe prepare
17:07for potential waves
17:08coming here?
17:09At the moment,
17:10most of the displacement
17:11is within the countries.
17:13Our teams at UNHCR
17:14are already monitoring
17:16the situation
17:16very closely.
17:17There is no significant
17:18movements
17:19across the borders.
17:20Beyond that,
17:20what I spoke about
17:21in Afghanistan
17:22that people from Iran,
17:23Afghani refugees in Iran
17:25and Pakistan
17:26to a degree
17:27are being sent back
17:28or encouraged
17:29to go back
17:30or pushed back.
17:31But across the borders
17:32we do not see that.
17:34We are also seeing,
17:36in order to put things
17:37in proper context,
17:38a large number,
17:39nearly 130,000
17:41Syrian refugees
17:42who were resident
17:43in Lebanon
17:43have gone back
17:44into Syria.
17:45I would not call
17:46that voluntary returns
17:47per se.
17:48They are returning
17:49under adverse conditions.
17:51but in order
17:51to put the picture
17:52complete.
17:53Our teams are looking
17:54at that situation
17:55and I hope the world
17:56as a whole
17:57we will be paying
17:58enough attention
17:59to bring this situation
18:00under control
18:01to lead to a peace
18:03that will be lasting
18:04and basically rooted
18:06in the protection
18:07of interests
18:07of the peoples
18:08of the region,
18:09respectful of the dignity
18:10and the rights
18:11of the peoples
18:12across that region.
18:13This region has seen
18:14too many wars
18:15and too many cycles
18:16of conflict.
18:17So what would your message
18:18then be to President Trump
18:19who doesn't really seem
18:19to have a plan here?
18:20Well,
18:21the message is peace.
18:23The message is
18:24de-escalation and dialogue.
18:25We have to be emphatic
18:27about this.
18:28And what about
18:28his board of peace?
18:29The board of peace
18:30has already been
18:31very active in Gaza
18:32and thank God
18:34the active conflict
18:36in Gaza
18:36has been brought
18:37to an end
18:38at least for a while
18:40and let's hope
18:40that it will deliver
18:41something tangible
18:42for the people of Gaza
18:43and the region as a whole.
18:44Okay, Barham Salih.
18:46Thank you so much
18:47UN High Commissioner
18:47for Refugees.
18:48Thank you so much
18:49for coming in to us here
18:49on Euronews.
18:51And thank you so much
18:52for watching.
18:53That brings this edition
18:54of Europe Today
18:55to an end.
18:55Stay with us here
18:56on Euronews
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