00:00The defense ministry says it's tightening laws on spying in response to a report from
00:04Taiwan's government watchdog.
00:24Gu told lawmakers the military is working with the government to reform the military
00:28trial system, strengthen counterintelligence, and raise awareness among troops.
00:32His statements follow a control yun report that called on Taiwan's cabinet and judiciary
00:37to hand out harsher sentences for espionage.
00:41Chinese spying cases have risen sharply in Taiwan's military in recent years,
00:45with a threefold increase between 2021 and 2024.
00:49The government watchdog says average sentences range from around 13 to 28 months,
00:55much lower than in similar cases in the U.S. and Europe.
01:00For more on this, I spoke to Shen Ming Shi, a researcher from the Institute for National Defense
01:05and Research, or INDSR.
01:08Have past sentences for military personnel spying for China been too lenient?
01:14And if so, why do you think this happens?
01:16Yes.
01:17Yes.
01:18Yes.
01:19So, what's the case of this kind of situation?
01:22The case of this case is the military personnel, especially the military personnel,
01:53已经撤出军队了所以在军队里面所有的犯法事件通通要由地方的法院来审理跟判决有些可能是现役的官兵那现役的官兵他调查可能在军队那军队只能辅助调查然后再送地方法院那另外呢就是已经退伍的这个军人或者是军事官兵那他们受到渗透或者是威胁然后泻漏机密那这个调查就由民间
02:21民間司法都會調查來移送地方法院但是我們知道地方法院他的法官他其實審理的案件非常多的那審理案件非常多他又不一定對這個供諜案或者是軍事機密或者是國防工業或者是國防科技這個相會比較熟悉或者是對於這種犯罪的這種樣態還有他的嚴重性可能也不了解
02:47或者是他是從這種人權的觀點去看待這議題但是不是從國家安全或者是泄密的觀點來看這議題所以在審理的時候他的時效性會比較慢或甚至在引用法條的時候他可能他覺得不可以用這個陸海公尊刑法他用一般的刑法的這個法條那所以在量刑上就可能會比較輕Is
02:47there anything that's currently being
02:49done about the issue?那現在也有成立所謂的
03:02國安法庭國安法庭就是有關國安的犯罪有專門的這個法庭來審理但是因為只有兩個法官所以遠遠是不夠的So
03:02what additionally can the cabinet do
03:04to help resolve this matter?
03:33所以第一個就是增加國安法庭的能量然後而且審理要快速第二個就是一般地方法院的不管是檢察官或者是法官對於軍事法律的這個素養還有這個犯罪的樣態我覺得要定期的講席或者是能夠跟軍方有很多互動溝通的制度或管道
03:35That was Shen Ming Shi from INDSR
03:38那麼多人現在是有關國安法庭來審理現在是有關國安法庭來審理現在是有關國安法庭來審理
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