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00:02So, thank you very much for accepting it.
00:06And the context is, I have some questions.
00:12Most of them are regarding the challenges of the mental and physical health of today,
00:20in this period of time where we have so many conflicts.
00:23So, how do you see these challenges of physical and mental health in present world
00:34with all those conflicts that are ongoing, with all the wars?
00:39Yeah.
00:44Well, so, the more anxiety there is in a person,
00:53the more their physiology gets affected.
00:56Their hormones, their nervous system, their guts, their heart, you know, every aspect,
01:01their blood pressure, like everything, their immune system.
01:05Number one.
01:06Number two, when there's tremendous pressure from the outside,
01:10when there's conflict, uncertainty, aggression in society,
01:23that's going to trigger anxiety inside a person.
01:29Number three, the degree of anxiety depends very much on how much internal self-regulation there is,
01:39how much the person can be grounded in themselves,
01:43or to what degree they're affected by what happens on the outside.
01:47Now, we're all affected by the world,
01:49but two people can be affected to different degrees,
01:52depending on how much internal grounding they have.
01:58And that means how much of an internal self they're capable of generating.
02:10So, for a lot of people, that's very minimal.
02:16So, there's all kinds of studies on the effect of social turmoil or economic insecurity
02:23on the health of the individual.
02:27Yes.
02:28And so, that's the relationship.
02:31I have the sense that we don't realize how interdependent we are on each other.
02:39And in many ways, the external conflicts become part of smaller communities.
02:46So, there is like a mirroring effect that also happens in smaller communities that I observed.
02:53Yeah.
02:53Do you think that it's normal, in a way, that when there is a larger conflict,
03:00it comes down and boils down to the smaller conflicts, community conflicts, even in family conflicts?
03:09Well, again, it depends on how much internal grounding there is.
03:17But, should I get to the United States right now, for example,
03:24because of the political disagreements,
03:27families are having a hard time sitting down with each other.
03:31Absolutely.
03:32Or you can see it in Jewish communities,
03:36where there's been tremendous
03:39and growing distress over what's happening in the Middle East.
03:46But, people have a hard time talking to each other.
03:48And, you know, it's very painful for a lot of people.
03:52So, yes, a general political turmoil or conflict will translate into familial conflict.
04:03And that will have an impact on individual health.
04:10What is the most essential habit or pillar that is necessary to live with everything that we have today on
04:20our plate?
04:22I hear you saying groundedness, which depends on the individual.
04:27Yeah.
04:29How can we work toward that groundedness?
04:36Well, that depends on what issues you're dealing with.
04:42But, certainly, in the world that I understand,
04:46all of us are troubled by multigenational traumatic imprints.
04:50And the more we can work on those,
04:52the less we'll be at the mercy of our unconscious.
04:56Number one.
04:57Number two.
05:02It's really a very difficult line between being engaged with the world,
05:11but not being overwhelmed by the world.
05:15And I think that takes, for me at least, that takes some daily practice.
05:20Some breath work, some, I'm a very poor meditator, but some degree of meditation,
05:29some disengagement so that I can stay engaged without being overwhelmed.
05:34And it's very easy for the personality to get pulled in by outside forces.
05:42And you can see, like in a society, in major crisis, like, say, Germany,
05:50in the 1920s, 1930s,
05:54the tendencies for people to suppress their individuality
05:57and to just belong to the group
05:59and to give up any sense of individual thinking, morality,
06:04or capacity to hold on to human values.
06:14So there's a tremendous tendency to try and regulate your anxiety
06:21by belonging to the group, by suppressing your own independence.
06:27Yes, and this can take us beyond our humanity
06:31if we don't keep it regulated with our own practice.
06:35Is it what you say?
06:36Yeah.
06:38Yeah.
06:38So to keep our own practice, whatever it is,
06:41that helps us to stay maybe connected to ourselves
06:45and also to the world without getting overwhelmed.
06:49Yeah, some kind of practice.
06:51For some people, there might be meditation.
06:53For the people, there might be other spiritual work.
06:57It might be yoga.
06:58It could be nature.
07:00It could be journaling.
07:01But something that keeps you,
07:05that gives you a space from constant,
07:07and of course, constant involvement with the world.
07:10And the other problem, of course, is the social media,
07:13which is like we carry the world in our hands all the time,
07:17and it's so easy to get lost in the external world.
07:24What is it that you do to keep yourself grounded?
07:29Is the daily practices that you mentioned,
07:31is there anything else that is important?
07:34Well, these days I do.
07:36I haven't always, but these days,
07:40the last couple of months, I begin every morning.
07:43I don't open up my cell phone first thing I wake up.
07:46It's on airplane mode.
07:48Oh, yes.
07:49It stays on airplane mode until I sit down
07:52and read a little bit of the Bhagavad Gita,
07:54the Hindu epic,
07:57and some other reading
07:58and a bit of breathing
08:01and just even a few moments of meditative awareness.
08:09And only after I make my breakfast and sit down
08:14do I open up the cell phone.
08:17You know, and most days,
08:20I'll do a meditative yoga exercise
08:25before I go to bed, you know.
08:27And several times a day,
08:29I do just a very short breath practice.
08:32Yes.
08:34Just like...
08:35That's what I do these days.
08:37Thank you.
08:38Wonderful.
08:42And how can we,
08:45or how should we reconnect to joy
08:47after having lived a traumatic experience?
08:51Is that possible to reconnect with joy?
08:56I have no idea.
08:59I'm just reading a book here.
09:01It's by a psychologist called Alan Shore,
09:05S-C-H-O-R-E.
09:06And he's one of the leading thinkers
09:10about human development.
09:11He's been an influence on my work for 30 years.
09:15And his most recent book is called
09:17The Right Brain and the Origin of Human Nature.
09:20And it's about how the right brain,
09:25which is the emotional brain,
09:26and the intuitive brain,
09:28and the holistic brain,
09:30develops before the left brain.
09:33Both in terms of human evolution,
09:35animal evolution,
09:36but also in terms of the individual human being.
09:39And that right brain is so programmed
09:41by our early experiences,
09:43beginning in the universe,
09:44in the first year or two,
09:45with our nurturing caregiver.
09:47Now, I didn't have a whole lot of joy
09:50in the first two years of my life.
09:52And I don't find joy an easy state to get to.
09:56I can't, and it's,
10:00I know they tell me it's possible,
10:02and the mystics talks about
10:03this ecstatic joy that you get
10:05from that unitary experience
10:08of self-realization.
10:11But honest to God,
10:12I'm not familiar with it.
10:14And so I'm not here,
10:15I can't guide anybody to joy.
10:17It's not a state that I know very well.
10:21Have you met with joy in your life?
10:27Personally?
10:29Yeah, moments.
10:36But it's not something I can easily talk about.
10:40I just don't,
10:41I don't think my right brain is organized that way.
10:44No, that doesn't mean
10:46that the possibility isn't there.
10:48Yes, I hear you.
10:51I just read an article
10:54on near-death experiences
10:56or the dying experience,
10:57and apparently Steve Jobs,
11:01the founder of Apple,
11:03as he was dying,
11:04he said,
11:05oh, wow, oh, wow.
11:07He saw something.
11:08Maybe in my last
11:10mini-second on Earth.
11:13I don't know.
11:16Yes.
11:17But I'm,
11:17what I cannot do
11:19is guide anybody else to joy.
11:21What are you
11:23guiding people to?
11:26Self-awareness.
11:27Self-awareness.
11:29Okay.
11:30Could self-awareness
11:31be,
11:32could self-awareness
11:34be
11:34one step
11:35toward
11:36joy?
11:38When I get to joy,
11:39I'll let you know.
11:42But I'll,
11:43but lack of self-awareness
11:46means that you're,
11:52you're not in,
11:55you can't guide yourself
11:56without self-awareness.
11:57You just kind of
11:58pushed and pulled
11:59by the unconscious.
12:06If our body knows
12:07and remembers,
12:08is there any way
12:10to soften
12:11the impact
12:12that
12:13any traumatic
12:14experience
12:15had
12:15on our bodies?
12:17Well,
12:18first of all,
12:25yeah,
12:26so again,
12:27just recall
12:28what I,
12:28how I see trauma
12:30is trauma
12:30is not what happens
12:31to you,
12:32it is what happens
12:33inside you.
12:35Yes.
12:36And not only
12:38is it what happens
12:38inside you,
12:39it's what you
12:39still carry
12:40about the past.
12:43So I can be
12:44in an interaction
12:45with somebody
12:46and have a certain
12:47bodily reaction
12:48that has nothing
12:49to do with
12:50the present moment.
12:52Absolutely.
12:53That is triggered
12:54by the present moment,
12:56but isn't caused
12:57by the present moment.
12:59But once I realize
13:00that,
13:02now until I realize
13:04that I think
13:05I'm feeling this way
13:06because she said this
13:08or they did that
13:09or they didn't do that.
13:12If I can recognize
13:14that this body state
13:16that I'm experiencing
13:17right now
13:18is actually
13:21an old imprint,
13:24then I can have
13:25some distance
13:26between myself
13:26and that body reaction.
13:29And so then,
13:30yes,
13:31that can be let go of.
13:33That's what
13:33self-awareness
13:37comes in.
13:39Absolutely.
13:40This is what
13:41I wanted to add.
13:41Here is self-awareness.
13:43Yeah, yeah.
13:45When I know
13:46what's happening
13:47inside,
13:49what I am reacting
13:50to.
13:51Yeah,
13:51and
13:53you notice
13:54that you are
13:56not the reaction.
13:59Exactly.
14:00Because as long
14:01as we're just reacting,
14:02we are the reaction,
14:03that's all there is,
14:04is the reaction.
14:05As soon as you notice,
14:06oh,
14:07then you're no longer
14:09the reaction.
14:10You're no longer
14:10identified with the reaction.
14:12Yeah.
14:13Our language
14:14doesn't help a lot
14:15because we say
14:15that I am angry,
14:17like I am anger.
14:19Yeah,
14:19as opposed to
14:20I have anger
14:20or there's anger.
14:21You know,
14:22what the Buddha says,
14:23like the Buddha says
14:24to his
14:26bhikkhus,
14:26his monks,
14:27he says,
14:28when there's anger
14:29in the buddhi,
14:30he doesn't say
14:31that the
14:33bhikkhu,
14:33the monk,
14:34doesn't get angry.
14:35He doesn't say that.
14:36He says,
14:38when there's anger
14:39in the monk,
14:40the monk recognizes
14:41that there's anger
14:42in me.
14:44To say that
14:45there's anger in me
14:45is different
14:46from saying
14:48I am angry.
14:49Exactly.
14:51Because with the
14:53I am angry,
14:54there's an identification
14:55with the emotion
14:57of anger.
15:00Yes.
15:01When
15:04regarding
15:05food addiction,
15:06work addiction,
15:07or
15:09any type
15:10of addiction
15:10that
15:11holds us
15:12in a pattern,
15:14would
15:15self-awareness
15:16be the key
15:17to overcome it
15:17or would it
15:18be something
15:19yes?
15:22Well,
15:26self-awareness
15:27is not enough.
15:28It's essential,
15:30but it's not enough.
15:31I mean,
15:32any addiction
15:33is driven
15:34by some need.
15:38So,
15:38food addiction
15:39is driven
15:39by a need
15:44for something.
15:46Stress release
15:47or
15:49feeling a sense
15:49of emptiness
15:50inside.
15:54Yes,
15:55or not wanting
15:55to feel.
15:56So,
15:57being aware
15:58of that
15:58is a necessary
15:58step,
15:59but it's not enough.
16:00You also have to say,
16:01well,
16:01what is this need
16:02and how can I feel
16:06that need
16:06through some
16:07healthy way?
16:09And also
16:11to recognize
16:11that that need
16:13is a traumatic
16:16imprint.
16:20When we
16:22walk this path,
16:24we recognize
16:24the need
16:25and we
16:25find
16:28maybe meaning
16:29in it.
16:31That's right.
16:32That's right.
16:33Because
16:34all addictions
16:40are aimed
16:41at meeting
16:42genuine
16:43needs.
16:45The need
16:46is not
16:46for the food,
16:47but if there's
16:48a sense
16:49of deficient
16:50emptiness
16:50inside,
16:51we do have
16:52a need
16:52for fulfillment.
16:54Hmm.
16:56You know,
16:57or
16:59if an opiate
17:00gives you
17:01a sense
17:02of peace,
17:02you don't
17:03have a need
17:04for the opiate.
17:05Your addicted
17:06mind thinks
17:07it does.
17:08Yeah.
17:09But you do
17:09have a need
17:10for peace.
17:10That's a genuine
17:11human need.
17:13And it's the same
17:14with alcohol
17:15and other
17:16substances?
17:17And any
17:18addiction.
17:18I don't care
17:19what it is.
17:19Pornography,
17:20bulimia,
17:21self-cutting,
17:22alcohol,
17:23they all serve
17:24some kind of need.
17:25They serve
17:25a genuine need.
17:28At least
17:30they're trying
17:31to substitute
17:31for a genuine
17:32need.
17:34Yes.
17:36Absolutely.
17:38Hmm.
17:40You said
17:41in many times
17:42in previous
17:43interviews
17:43that
17:46you believe
17:47that
17:49healing
17:50is available
17:51for everyone
17:52except
17:53yourself.
17:54How are you
17:55standing today
17:56with this?
17:57Well,
17:58wait a minute,
17:59I don't say that
17:59anymore.
18:00I used to
18:01believe that.
18:02Okay.
18:03And there's
18:03a lot of
18:03people out
18:04there who
18:04think
18:06that they're
18:07so uniquely
18:07hurt
18:09and so
18:10devastatingly
18:10hurt that
18:11they can't
18:11heal.
18:12That's just
18:12that belief
18:13itself is an
18:14impact of
18:15trauma.
18:17And I used
18:17to believe
18:18that out
18:18myself.
18:19I don't
18:19any longer.
18:20Hmm.
18:21Yeah.
18:22What changed?
18:23If it is
18:24possible to
18:24say.
18:25If not,
18:25what was
18:26changed,
18:27I mean,
18:29give up
18:29the idea
18:30that healing
18:31is some
18:31end point.
18:32Okay.
18:33Yes.
18:34Because
18:35then you
18:35think,
18:36I'm not
18:36at the
18:36end point
18:37yet.
18:37I'm not
18:38totally
18:38healed yet,
18:38therefore,
18:39it's impossible.
18:39But if
18:40healing is
18:40a process,
18:41which is
18:42what it
18:42is,
18:43healing is
18:43actually a
18:44process,
18:48then it
18:49doesn't
18:49matter how
18:49bad I
18:50might feel
18:51at any
18:51moment,
18:52if I look
18:53at where I
18:53was a year
18:54ago,
18:54two years
18:55ago,
18:55or ten,
18:55or God
18:56forbid,
18:5640 years
18:57ago,
18:57there's a
18:58huge change.
19:00There's a lot
19:00of stuff I
19:02don't do
19:02anymore,
19:02I don't
19:03believe in
19:04anymore,
19:04it doesn't
19:05bother me
19:05anymore,
19:07so,
19:07you know,
19:12the belief
19:13itself is a
19:13traumatic
19:14imprint,
19:14that's all
19:14it is,
19:15it's not
19:15nothing to
19:16do with
19:16reality.
19:18And often
19:18like I
19:19just spoke
19:20at a
19:20conference
19:20in San
19:21Diego
19:22on Friday,
19:23today's
19:24Monday,
19:25and people
19:26come up
19:26and say,
19:27you know,
19:28is healing
19:28possible for
19:29me?
19:29I said,
19:30well,
19:33compare
19:33yourself to
19:34where you
19:34were ten
19:34years ago,
19:35you're the
19:35same person,
19:35no,
19:36I'm much
19:36more self
19:36aware,
19:37you know,
19:37well,
19:38then you've
19:39just answered
19:39your own
19:40question.
19:41I love
19:42that,
19:42thank you,
19:44that's
19:44brilliant,
19:45yeah.
19:46So,
19:47you will
19:47be coming
19:48to Spain,
19:49is this
19:50the first
19:50time that
19:51you come
19:51to Spain?
19:53No,
19:54it's the
19:54first time
19:55I've come
19:55to speak,
19:56but I've
19:57visited Spain
19:58twice before,
20:00I was in
20:01Barcelona once
20:03for a
20:04film on
20:05psychedelics,
20:06and that was
20:07a few years
20:07and then
20:09my wife
20:10and I
20:10visited
20:10Spain
20:11some years
20:12ago,
20:13we were
20:14in
20:14Andalusia
20:15and
20:17Barcelona
20:17and a
20:18few other
20:19places,
20:20but this
20:21is the
20:21first time
20:21coming to
20:22speak.
20:22It's the
20:23first time
20:23you come
20:24to speak
20:24on the
20:2531st of
20:26May?
20:27That's
20:27correct,
20:27yeah.
20:28Organized
20:29by Estim,
20:30and you
20:30will be
20:30here in
20:31person with
20:32Saddam Kaur,
20:33the
20:35director of
20:36Compassionate
20:37Inquiry,
20:38and it's
20:38going to
20:39be a
20:39one-day
20:39compassionate
20:40inquiry.
20:43Can you
20:44summarize?
20:45Workshop,
20:46yeah.
20:47Workshop,
20:47yeah,
20:47so one-day
20:48workshop.
20:49So how
20:50can you
20:50summarize this
20:51therapeutic
20:52approach and
20:53what makes
20:54it different
20:55from other
20:56ones?
20:59Well,
21:01you know,
21:02when I
21:03look at the
21:03different
21:04modalities of
21:05trauma treatment,
21:06and there's
21:06many of
21:06them,
21:07you know,
21:08they're all
21:09based to
21:09some extent
21:10on the
21:10personality
21:11of the
21:11person who
21:13founded
21:13them,
21:14you know.
21:15Then they
21:15create a
21:16method out
21:16of themselves,
21:17you know,
21:18a method
21:19that reflects
21:20their own
21:20particular
21:20talents and
21:21insights and
21:22capacities.
21:24So I
21:25don't compare
21:25them one
21:26with the
21:26other.
21:27It's just,
21:28you know,
21:28and there's
21:30no one that
21:31works for
21:31everybody.
21:32Now this
21:33particular
21:34Compassion
21:34Inquiry does
21:35reflect my
21:36own personality,
21:37which is,
21:44I like to
21:45ask questions.
21:46And I do
21:48believe that
21:48the answers
21:50are inside
21:50everybody,
21:53so that it's
21:54not for me to
21:55tell you what's
21:55true about
21:56you,
21:57but for
21:58you to
21:58discover what
21:58is true
21:59about you.
22:02But two
22:04elements that
22:04are important
22:05in that
22:06self-discovery
22:07are genuine
22:09curiosity,
22:11like curiosity
22:12says,
22:13I don't know
22:13what I want
22:14to find out.
22:16But compassionate
22:17curiosity,
22:18because without
22:19compassion,
22:20we're in
22:21defensive mode
22:22and we
22:22protect
22:23ourselves
22:23and we
22:24don't want
22:25to look at
22:26what's painful.
22:28We defend
22:29against what's
22:30painful.
22:32So,
22:33compassion
22:33inquiry is
22:34simply a
22:35method by
22:36which the
22:39right questions
22:40are asked
22:40so that the
22:42answers can
22:42emerge from
22:43the individual
22:44in a setting
22:46of compassion
22:46where they
22:47feel safe,
22:48they're not
22:49going to be
22:49judged,
22:51and they'll
22:52be helped
22:53not to
22:53judge
22:53themselves.
22:58And all
22:59of this is
23:00based on a
23:00certain
23:00perspective,
23:02which is that
23:03there's nothing
23:03wrong with
23:03anybody,
23:04fundamentally,
23:05that many of
23:06the problems
23:08that we face
23:09in life,
23:09whether they're
23:10relational,
23:11psychological,
23:12emotional,
23:12or physical
23:13illness in
23:14many cases,
23:15reflect early
23:17traumas and
23:18our defenses
23:20and our
23:21attempts to
23:21escape from
23:22trauma,
23:23from the
23:24impacts of
23:24trauma.
23:25But those
23:26early adaptations
23:27which were
23:29necessary for
23:31the small
23:31child are
23:34self-defeating
23:35for the
23:35adult.
23:38So it's a
23:39question of
23:39recognizing
23:41compassionately
23:42how we
23:43adapted to
23:44early
23:44situations,
23:46which adaptations
23:47no longer
23:47serve us as
23:48adults to get
23:49in our way.
23:49So we have to
23:50have some
23:50awareness,
23:51and how do
23:52you get to
23:52that awareness?
23:53Through a
23:53compassionate
23:54process of
23:55inquiry.
23:57That kind of
23:57sums it up.
23:59But also to
24:00add, it's
24:02very body-based
24:03because we
24:04talked about
24:04the body
24:05earlier,
24:05and all of
24:07this is held
24:07in the body,
24:08so just talking
24:09about it
24:09intellectually
24:10isn't going
24:11to release
24:11anybody.
24:12It's
24:13helpful, but
24:14it's not
24:14enough.
24:15Yeah, we
24:16need the
24:16body with
24:17us when
24:18we want to
24:19release
24:19something.
24:20Yeah.
24:23Why do
24:24you think
24:24it's so
24:25impactful
24:25compassionate
24:26inquiry with
24:28people who
24:29suffer chronic
24:29diseases or
24:30are dealing
24:32with addictions?
24:32Oh, well,
24:33so if you
24:34look at
24:35chronic
24:36illnesses,
24:36autoimmune
24:37diseases,
24:39they're not
24:40just
24:40biological
24:42events.
24:43In fact,
24:43they reflect,
24:45and there's
24:45all kinds of
24:46studies relating
24:47the more
24:47trauma in
24:48a person's
24:48childhood,
24:49the more
24:50they're likely
24:51to have
24:51autoimmune
24:51disease.
24:53It's not
24:54even controversial,
24:54not that doctors
24:55don't know that,
24:56but only because
24:56they don't look
24:57at the science.
25:00and there's
25:01certain
25:02personality
25:03adaptations
25:04which have
25:05to do with
25:06self-suppression.
25:08Suppression of
25:09healthy anger,
25:10suppression of
25:11one's individuality
25:12in order to
25:13belong and to
25:14be acceptable.
25:15That self-suppression
25:16ends up,
25:18because of the
25:19mind-body unity,
25:20because our
25:22psychological and
25:24emotional states
25:26are connected
25:27to a physiology,
25:29that emotional
25:30psychological
25:31self-suppression
25:31also disorganizes
25:34the immune
25:35system.
25:36Now,
25:36that also means
25:37that healing
25:38the psychological
25:39emotional
25:40aspects can
25:41heal the
25:42physiology.
25:43And I've seen
25:44people heal
25:44from roachnoid
25:45arthritis,
25:46from lupus,
25:46from multiple
25:47sclerosis.
25:47Other people
25:48have seen it.
25:49So,
25:49in other words,
25:51when I see
25:52somebody with
25:53autoimmune
25:53disease,
25:54I'm not
25:55working as
25:55a physician
25:56anymore,
25:56but if I
25:57was,
25:58yes,
25:58I'd give
25:58them the
25:59medication
25:59that they
25:59need to
26:01deal with
26:01the inflammation,
26:02to reduce
26:03the pain,
26:03but,
26:05and I
26:06would also
26:06help them
26:07work on
26:07their
26:07psychological
26:08emotional
26:08issues,
26:09so that
26:10those
26:11medications
26:11will no longer
26:12be necessary.
26:13And I've
26:13seen many
26:13cases like
26:14that.
26:17So,
26:18who is
26:19this
26:20workshop on
26:21the 31st
26:21of May
26:22is for?
26:23Is it
26:23for
26:25healthcare
26:25professionals,
26:26psychos?
26:27I think
26:28there'd be a
26:28lot of
26:28therapists
26:29there,
26:30but it's
26:31for everybody
26:32because I
26:32don't talk
26:33differently to
26:33therapists than
26:35when I talk
26:36to the general
26:36public,
26:36and I hope
26:38to speak in
26:39a way that
26:40holds both
26:41their attention.
26:43And so I
26:43think it's,
26:45you have to
26:45ask the
26:46organizers who
26:47their intended
26:47audience is,
26:49but usually
26:50I speak
26:51to everybody
26:52and I
26:53don't speak
26:53differently to
26:54one group
26:54than to
26:54another.
26:55I think
26:56it's for
26:56everybody
26:57pretty much.
26:58Yeah,
26:59yeah.
26:59And will
27:00you be
27:00offering some
27:02signatures for
27:03your book?
27:04This is a
27:04Spanish edition
27:05of your
27:05book.
27:06El mito
27:07de
27:07la
27:09Noregna.
27:10Yeah,
27:11well,
27:11yeah,
27:11sure.
27:12If there's
27:13time,
27:14I'm happy
27:14to sign
27:14books,
27:15yeah.
27:17What would
27:18be the
27:19last thing
27:20that you
27:20would say
27:21to the
27:22readers that
27:23you think
27:23is important?
27:26Well,
27:28only what
27:28we've covered
27:29before that
27:30whatever you
27:30think is
27:32fundamentally
27:32nothing wrong
27:33with you.
27:34And as
27:35long as
27:35it's
27:35consciousness,
27:37self-awareness
27:39and healing
27:39are possible.
27:42Yeah.
27:45Yeah.
27:45Yeah.
27:45Yeah.
27:45Gracias por ver el video.
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