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This started as a simple weekly content meeting… and quickly turned into a full-blown debate on Dhurandhar 2.From performances and storytelling to the bigger question — is Dhurandhar 2 a cinematic masterpiece or a propaganda-driven narrative?What began as a discussion on viral trends spiraled into a heated clash of perspectives — covering:The film’s 4-hour runtime and storytelling
The use of real political events like demonetization
Whether cinema should show both sides of history
Performances, casting, and emotional impactNo scripts. No filters. Just a real conversation that escalated.Watch till the end — because this meeting didn’t go as planned.
The use of real political events like demonetization
Whether cinema should show both sides of history
Performances, casting, and emotional impactNo scripts. No filters. Just a real conversation that escalated.Watch till the end — because this meeting didn’t go as planned.
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00:00demonetization was not one of the successful steps in india people are sitting just to get
00:05offended how can you say this dude all of us were standing in those lines
00:28hi guys good morning hello hello hello how was your how was your weekend
00:38all good making was good yeah pretty relaxing fine okay um let's uh cut to the chase let's see what
00:49we're doing for this week uh tell me what you're doing for this week especially in terms of like
00:55sports and like you know the other thing uh i have some ideas about uh like we can do in
01:01a sports
01:02that covers soccer uh football actually and uh just now we have finished this final match uh that is
01:09being covered today and along with that we can take some in IPL and uh some in entertainment as well
01:16and uh viral news are always there and talking about viral i am getting fed up of these dhurandar
01:24memes these days that we are facing like it's right there on your face you just switch on your
01:29instagram and uh instagram and everything everything is all about dhurandar and up to a certain point
01:36like it's getting like quite yeah cliche these days but if you see they've connected cricket also to
01:42dhurandar that rohi sharma jersey 45 is going viral yeah even i saw that yeah so they have somehow
01:50connected dhurandar with all aspects of life yeah but the thing is uh people are calling it propaganda
01:58i'm not quite sure why why is everyone calling it a propaganda like it's right there on the internet
02:05all the data and everything is there on the internet and everything is like uh correctly put in the movie
02:12and what they have done is quite a brilliant job i guess uh agreed when you talk about uh why
02:20is it
02:20being called propaganda and also when you say that uh it's a fine art when it comes to movie agreed
02:26uh when you say that it's a fine movie uh if we go by how actors have performed what was
02:32the
02:32storyline and everything dialogues of course it was one of the finest movies we have seen in the longest
02:38time but if you look at it of course it's a bit propaganda driven because um how the idea or
02:45the
02:45actions of this current government has been uh propagated through this movie be it demonetization
02:55no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no how
02:58prime minister if you look at
03:00there are a few instances in the movie for example when prime minister had sworn in for the first time
03:07so they have this cliche dialogue saying of chai wala again all of that
03:16why is it being called propaganda is just for one reason is because it's putting a party putting a
03:24party on pedestal it should have been plain and simple about what i think i also like for us as
03:32viewers who have invested four hours of our time uh i agree with you that it was an interesting movie
03:41no i'm not saying it was boring i'm not saying i'm just contradicting your point wherein you have
03:47said that okay memes are there it's violent everything but why are people calling it propaganda
03:52it is pretty much propaganda it's there on the face of it that um how do you call a fact
03:58propaganda like it was there in the news whatever that happened in the new uh demonetization
04:05it was right there in the news on 8th of november and out right after that things started to
04:11happening like after that 26 days after that news that guy who was involved in trap uh this uh money
04:20land money issues those that guy did a suicide or it was never clear to the media that was it
04:29a
04:29suicide or somebody killed that guy and uh it happened right after that news and people are
04:35strictly calling this a propaganda because that clip was shown in the video when when no amina we are
04:42not getting it my all all all that i'm saying is that it's a movie it's a nice movie but
04:48if you have
04:49given uh if you've positioned uh if you've positioned it's uh some content of it but only uh on the
04:58basis
04:58of what a certain party has done if if you see uh demonetization or ram janma bhoomi or atik
05:06ehmad all that has been done in uh in the this government's time since 2014 that content has been
05:16that content has been used has been put on a pedestal and has been at the consumption of uh the
05:24viewers
05:25like we have the population if you look at the population of india they're consuming it in a way
05:31uh they're okay if you look at just the lines or the dialogues also no no no if you just
05:37look at
05:37the lines and the dialogues also how they're saying how they're saying it is it is in a way propaganda
05:44if you go through the exact meaning of propaganda this is propaganda if you are showing one thing
05:51okay just show it but then followed by it you have certain dialogues from the villains of the movie
05:57wherein only one example i'll use it uh once after the prime minister had taken over how the uh how
06:06the character uh playing dowd ibrahim and the other people how they were the dialogues so you the movie
06:14has tried to brainwash people into thinking something demonetization was not a very successful
06:21step by the government if you if you're talking about if you're talking about stats i would request
06:27you to go through stats demonetization was not one of the successful uh steps by the moody government
06:33they claim that it was to stop the fake currency to remove black money from the system no no no
06:40if you
06:41go through the statements of the bjp leaders back then multiple statements have come out and i can i can
06:49put a
06:50bet on this with you that multiple uh multiple reasons were given by the bjp leadership at multiple
06:56time time that okay this is why demonetization had happened and if you really want to go through
07:02right in the beginning of the movie that this movie is if you really want to go you should go
07:08through
07:08the stats of rbi how counterfeit uh notes the numbers have increased significantly post 2018 uh to
07:18so my bad 2016 after the demonetization you must go if you want to talk about facts you must go
07:23through these so demonetization was not a very successful step whatever the background of it is
07:30wait hang on hang on okay so uh since we're talking about oh my god the one thing that fell
07:39in the four and a half hours or whatever of the movie almost four hours of the movie the one
07:46thing that fell longer and the most boring part was actually the disclaimer itself i think the
07:51disclaimer was around more than 20 minutes long and it was so i i'm for all the things and you
08:00know
08:00like facts or you know fiction that was stated later in the movie i think that disclaimer was extremely
08:07important for aditya dhar to protect the entire setup itself right that was the most boring part of
08:16the entire movie because if you're taking a video if you're making a movie out of it you have to
08:24make
08:24sure that nobody gets offended offended and everything is right there on the table
08:28but nothing no the world doesn't work in a way where you know if you create one thing people are
08:35there'll be 10 people who will get offended and there'll be 100 who will who will get offended so
08:41knowing the fact that you know some of the things that is in india people are sitting just to get
08:48offended right just like swami is sitting over here
08:52i take offense okay this is very personal okay i can also say the same thing you you are on
09:01the edge
09:01right now and you have taken offense because i've contradicted your points with facts so you are
09:07sitting on edge and and waiting for i i am i am telling you go through the facts if you
09:14have
09:14made the mistake of saying that okay it's the completely fact based movie then please do
09:21yourself a favor and go through the facts demonetization was not a very successful
09:27uh success uh successful step taken by the modi government and you someone as as locals or as
09:36normal people as us we should be open if we are supporting the idea of a certain party we should
09:43also
09:43be in a position to question when we think that they're going wrong and demonetization was one
09:48such uh move by the modi government how can you say this dude all of us were standing for such
09:54long
09:55hours in those lines in the banks it was such a chaos why did they not show this side of
10:03the
10:04demonetization yes so i understand that demonetization was you know like a little weird for
10:18everybody but see the success rate again is dependable because there are 50 percent of the
10:25people who are telling that it is a success and then there is 50 percent of the people who are
10:29telling that it was not a success but the fact that 60 000 crores were ready to enter india through
10:36exactly this was true okay i'm not denying i'm saying it was good the movie was good but when it
10:44comes
10:45uh to the point wherein people are questioning that is it a propaganda movie my inclination is a little
10:52bit towards that and it has tried to uh polish a certain party's uh agenda i think almost all movies
11:04which are stating anything related to you know the indian uh politics is always either on they're always
11:12either people are polarized always will be because if god is the poster boy of i think at this point
11:21we
11:21should declare him as the poster boy he has made all these movies on everything that has been done by
11:28the modi government of course he has got that opportunity to present whatever that he has faced
11:35in his real life if you go through whatever that he has gone no kashmiri pundits i am not denying
11:42that
11:42if movies are made on that i will never deny that okay what kashmiri pundits had gone through
11:48and all of that but i am saying if a movie is made my simple point is if you're making
11:54a movie if just
11:55if you're complimenting if you give if you're presenting a step which has been taken by a government
12:02on such a uh big platform wherein billions of people are going to consume it you should show
12:09both sides of it you're just showing the good side of what you want people to feed in themselves
12:14uh what how you want to think uh how you want them to think about it that's all that i'm
12:20saying
12:20that's how it makes it a propaganda movie what in the movie they have shown exactly the reason behind
12:26it they could not like any government cannot say what is the actual but they have their 60 000 crore
12:33uh money was coming to india which were fake uh government cannot upfront say that so what they
12:40have to go like they have to choose a safer but they can upfront show it in the movie kept
12:49it's like it's a slang people were using against him it's it was not like whoever in the movie has
12:55used that slang those either are the pakistani or the supporters of the opposition so it is right
13:02there uh like the reason is well mentioned there but it's all there on the internet like the moment
13:08you open your instagram every news that whatever that you are looking for about durandar
13:17people are even telling that netflix is available even in pakistan that's how they
13:21how that's how pakistanis watched durandar part one but now it isn't your hot star it's going to
13:26release on your hot star and they don't have access to geo so they will not be able to see
13:31the second
13:31pirated movie if you guys have seen there was one of the journalists watched uh pirated version of
13:39durandar 2 and uh he posted something about it on uh online and then he received a lot of backlash
13:47from
13:48uh pakistani audience there so they are consuming no doubt uh even though it's the pirated version but
13:57they are yeah yeah let's give a moment for ranvir singh's acting oh my god i think he did a
14:04tremendous job and i have never like you know compared to all i mean he is always doing a
14:12but i think this particular movie actually put him if there had to be a movie which put him on
14:20the map
14:20i think this would be the one people are talking about the brutality that the movie has shown
14:25but i think that's that's the whole reality i mean if somebody kills a person it will be shown in
14:34that
14:34way itself so and in my case like in waranasi uh people were muting few words abusive words and
14:41everything but i think no that was universal no that was the muting of few words was universal it was
14:48like i saw the preview of the movie on 18th so it's already an adult movie why are people uh
14:55like
14:55muting those words there are already so many contradicting things in the movie that is shown
15:02there are already many controversies that have developed over time i don't think they wanted
15:07another one where yeah nothing can be more brutal just muting all these words for nothing can be
15:14more brutal yeah but something didn't sit well with me because if you look at movies like gangs of
15:19vasipur it had almost this similar kind of violence a the abusive languages were there those were not
15:28muted i haven't seen gangs of vasipur uh inside a theater and it's not just that you know i was
15:35absolutely not expecting see people claim you know on the internet people claim that davul has
15:42more you know like money than compared to many nations right and to see that you know this could
15:51be like you know the end that he is facing is really like crazy movie says that he is still
15:58alive
15:58so that is the question but if you see a lot of experts also no no i've heard i saw
16:06this video
16:06forgetting the name of this expert so uh there's this who asks who asks whether uh davul is still
16:17alive or not to which the expert responds the day people of uh dongri i think uh shut everything and
16:26moan something is the day when you'll know that uh david ibrahim has died until then uh nobody can say
16:33that uh he's uh dead or anything so and i think there are theories and people have gone on record
16:41people who have during his time in india who have who who have for for that matter few journalists
16:48as well that said that on record that he is alive it's just that he's not in that good of
16:55a condition
16:56he used to be in can we just talk about the resemblance of this character i don't know whether
17:01it was ai whether it was prosthetic or whatever it was but the resemblance was on that guy from up
17:12but i was shocked that looking at this character who's playing navas sharif it was so so spot on
17:23so something could have been done around narendra modhi also but they chose to go ahead with the
17:29original point you can use the real footage what's the point why one should use the but it also takes
17:36a lot to like get those footages like to be shown for masses again and you know like i'm pretty
17:44sure
17:44there's some strings to do that and also the casting casting wise because that guy or even the guy who
17:50was uh involved in money trafficking that guy they all look so similar resemblance is so good
17:57so heads off to the casting yeah anyway guys i think uh we've had a longer gurandar discussion
18:06than the actual meeting i will uh you know catch up with you guys tomorrow and uh let's keep updated
18:13about the video that we'll be doing uh see if you guys want to convert this into something you know
18:19which might actually go i think our discussion was so good that you know it can actually turn into
18:24it was good let's go ahead and uh see how we can produce this okay cool i will see you
18:31tomorrow
18:32then bye guys have a good day bye bye
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