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00:00Hello, coming up on the programme today.
00:02After skeletal remains of a man were found by campers in North Wales,
00:07can you help identify him?
00:10And do you recognise this man he's wanted in connection
00:13with the distribution of class A drugs?
00:15He's been on the run since 2021.
00:18And how a beauty queen turned detective
00:21to identify the UK's most prolific catfisher.
00:24It is literally like the plot from a Hollywood film.
00:27Yeah, it really is.
00:28Still watching, this is Crimewatch Live.
00:31He's been jamming the switchboard both here and at the Instagram room.
00:36Just to remind you, this was the Abduction and Rainbow Block campaign
00:40and the handgun debate.
00:43Hello and welcome to Crimewatch 12.
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00:57Hello and welcome to what is our last show for this series.
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01:19who've provided some interesting leads from those two.
01:22This morning, how a trusted friend turned bookkeeper
01:26swindled an elderly couple out of nearly £1 million.
01:31Within the space of a year,
01:32all the money was all transferred,
01:35leaving them penniless so they can't pay for their care.
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02:13But first this morning,
02:15the discovery of human remains near a campsite in North Wales
02:18led to a murder investigation
02:20that is still puzzling detectives 10 years later.
02:26At 2043 hours on the 14th of November 2015,
02:32North Wales Police received a call
02:33to report the discovery of what they believe to be human remains.
02:38Two brothers were visiting Cloquetnog Forest,
02:42a huge area of woodland in North Wales,
02:45to watch the Wales rally GB.
02:47In the evening, they were camping,
02:50and one of the brothers went off to look for firewood
02:53and in doing so,
02:54discovered what they believed to be a human skeleton.
03:03Cloquetnog Forest is well known.
03:05It's near to Llinbrennig,
03:06which is a very popular lake
03:08for walkers and outdoor sports enthusiasts and the like.
03:14There was a patch between Emain Road and the forestry track.
03:18So the brothers were camping a little bit further up
03:21from where the skeleton was recovered.
03:22And I would say in relation to the forestry track,
03:26that the skeleton was maybe 10, 15 metres away from that track.
03:31The particular area is not an area that I would expect people to have frequented
03:36because of the dense undergrowth and the fact that it isn't very easy to walk through.
03:42As you can imagine,
03:43receiving a call like that was very uncommon.
03:47Most of those police forensics teams identified that the skull did appear to be a human skull.
03:54A CSI team has started with archaeologists excavating the area.
04:01The discovery sparked a huge forensic police dig,
04:05which unearthed the near-complete human skeletal remains.
04:10The scene itself was particularly challenging.
04:13The crime scene investigators had to cut away the undergrowth
04:17and they've taken a layered approach.
04:20So not only have they done the undergrowth,
04:21they've taken away the soil
04:22and it's been a painstaking process that's taken place over a number of days.
04:29When we're examining that scene,
04:31not only are we looking to recover as much human remains as possible,
04:36we're also looking for forensics clues
04:38that will help us identify who that human remains belongs to.
04:43An experienced pathologist has had a look at the skull
04:47and has been able to say that there was inflicted trauma to the head,
04:50which has left us clear that this was a murder investigation.
04:58Confirmed as a murder,
05:00detectives began working on identifying the victim.
05:03We've been able to say that this person must have been born before 1950.
05:09We know through examination that the skeletal remains belong to a male.
05:14We believe that the male was of heavy build.
05:18We believe that he was between five foot eight inches tall
05:22and five foot ten and a half inches tall.
05:24From examining the spine,
05:27we know that this male had arthritis.
05:30He would have suffered with back pain.
05:32That back pain may not have been disclosed to family or friends or loved ones.
05:41Detectives called in a forensic odontologist, Dr John Rosey, for help.
05:47His premolar teeth have got some very extensive cram work,
05:52root canal work and filling work,
05:54which is of a high quality.
05:56Now, the style of the dentistry is typical of dentistry
06:01that was done in the 90s, 2000s, possibly late 80s.
06:07The teeth are particularly important to us in this investigation
06:10and we are told that if you were that dentist performing that procedure,
06:15you are likely to recognise your own work,
06:18which would hopefully enable us to identify who this person is.
06:26Detectives used a facial reconstruction expert
06:29to depict what the Clocaenog forest man may have looked like.
06:35They've given us three different date ranges,
06:37what they would look like in their 50s, 60s and 70s.
06:41So this is a useful guide to have this facial reconstruction.
06:45But what I would say is,
06:48this is a depiction of what that person might look like.
06:51It's only a guide.
06:55But despite detectives' best efforts,
06:59a decade later,
07:00and the identity of the man and what happened to him
07:03is still unknown.
07:07We've previously disclosed
07:09that the date range that we were looking for
07:10is between 1995 and 2005.
07:13However, through working with many different experts,
07:16we've been able to overlay all their expertise
07:19and now we firmly believe that that male
07:21would have been left at that location
07:24between the years 2004 and 2011.
07:28Because of the delay in the time
07:30where we believe that that body was left
07:33and the time that we got notified,
07:35we don't have the benefits of a traditional crime scene.
07:38We're now ten and a half years on
07:41and we're still no closer to identifying who that victim is.
07:45It's vitally important that we identify
07:47who this person is,
07:49who does this loved one belong to,
07:52and from then we can start other lines of inquiry
07:55to identify how he's come about,
07:57his demise and who was responsible.
08:05And I'm now with Detective Superintendent Chris Bell
08:08from North Wales Police.
08:09You saw from the film there, Chris.
08:11Remind us why you are treating this
08:13as a murder investigation.
08:15Good morning, Rav. Thank you.
08:16So we're treating this as a murder investigation
08:18because back in November 2015,
08:21two witnesses discovered
08:23almost a full human skeletal remains
08:27in a forest.
08:28Well, let's have a look at the area itself
08:29where he was discovered.
08:30This is the map here.
08:31Just talk us through what that area would look like.
08:33The brothers who discovered it
08:36were looking for firewood for camping.
08:39We've got a main road coming along here
08:42and then you've got a forestry track.
08:44So this is less well trodden.
08:47This is fairly well popular route.
08:51What have you managed to work out about the individual?
08:54So we believe from all the experts
08:56that he was Caucasian,
08:57that he was born between 1950s
09:00and that's based on carbon dating.
09:02We also believe that he was between
09:04five foot eight and five foot ten and a half,
09:07that he was heavy build.
09:09And we also believe that he would have had
09:11arthritis in his spine.
09:13So he would have known that he was uncomfortable.
09:16Maybe his friends might not have known,
09:18he might not have mentioned it to anybody,
09:20but that might have been a feature
09:21that somebody remembers.
09:22And we can see here,
09:24you've got three different images
09:25that experts have created,
09:26but three different age profiles
09:28of what he may possibly have looked like.
09:31On the left, we've got him
09:32as if he was in his 50s,
09:34then his 60s, then his 70s.
09:37Obviously, we've only got the skeletal remains.
09:39So this is a expert's interpretation,
09:42depiction of what he would look like.
09:44I'd like to stress that if the other things
09:46that I've mentioned, his height, his age,
09:49if they resonate with people
09:51and they think they may know who it is,
09:53but it doesn't necessarily look like this,
09:55please don't use that as a reason not to contact us.
09:57We want to hear from everybody
09:59if they think that somebody's gone missing
10:01between 2004, 2011.
10:03Anybody's friends, anybody's loved ones,
10:05please call us.
10:07I'd also like to stress, if I may,
10:09that we're looking for the victim
10:10and this is not the suspect or the offender.
10:14Yeah, it's really important to make that.
10:16And we heard from the film there,
10:17and you've touched on it already,
10:18but the dental work,
10:19that is a vital lead for you, isn't it?
10:22And it could really help this investigation.
10:24Yeah, correct.
10:24So we believe that he's had missing back teeth
10:28in his younger years.
10:29And some of the dentist work that you can see here now,
10:33he's had some crown work to a high quality.
10:36That work was seen in the late 80s, 90s,
10:40through to the early 2000s.
10:41And we firmly believe that if you were the dentist,
10:44you would recognise your work.
10:47It's quite unique.
10:48So if there's any dentists watching this,
10:51I would encourage you,
10:53please contact us if you recognise your work.
10:55Yeah.
10:55And also some clothing was found at the time.
10:58It was in a state of disrepair
11:01because it had been disintegrated over many, many years.
11:04But you've managed to piece together
11:06what it would have looked like.
11:06So we've worked with Pringle.
11:08They've been able to tell us that this jumper
11:11was an exact copy of what we found.
11:15They stopped manufacturing this in 2004.
11:18So it must have been worn by somebody
11:21or purchased by them prior to 2004.
11:25We also found some underwear.
11:28That was Marks and Spencer's underwear.
11:30And from the label,
11:31we were able to say that it was a large size,
11:34again, indicative of what the experts are saying,
11:36that our male would have been a heavier set male.
11:39So today, who do you want to hear from?
11:41We want to hear from friends, family,
11:44anybody who's got an idea, neighbours, loved ones,
11:47anybody who went missing between 2004 and 2011,
11:50that you think it could be him.
11:53But it is a murder investigation.
11:55If anyone has information about the murder itself,
11:58there is a Crimestoppers reward.
12:00Of course there is.
12:01Yeah, there's a £20,000 Crimestoppers reward.
12:03I'd like to emphasise that if anybody's got any information
12:06that can help us lead to identifying the offender,
12:10which results in a conviction,
12:11then you will be eligible for that £20,000 reward.
12:14Chris, thank you.
12:16If you have any information that can lead to an ID of this man,
12:21please do call.
12:22The contact details are on the screen now.
12:25We're going to talk now about Scotland's most prolific catfisher.
12:30So this is a woman who posed as a male doctor
12:33and then deceived over 100 women.
12:36It's an extraordinary story.
12:37It's actually on iPlayer now,
12:40so you can watch the documentary.
12:41But let's have a quick look at it.
12:45Time went so fast and I didn't sleep.
12:49Like, I was sitting on my phone looking for things and my laptop
12:53and it was like before I knew it,
12:54we were on to like 5, 6 in the morning
12:56and then I'd have a quick sleep and then I'd wake back up again.
12:58Like, I was consumed by it all.
13:06It's well worth a watch.
13:07We're joined now by criminologist Dr Elizabeth Carter
13:10and also Abbey Draper, who you saw there in the documentary.
13:13Thanks so much for coming in to talk about this.
13:15It is an extraordinary case.
13:17It's one, Abbey, you had experience with.
13:20So first of all, can you just explain
13:21what is a catfisher for those who don't know
13:23and how did it happen to you?
13:25Yeah, so catfishing is basically a tool
13:27that someone will use to deceive other people
13:29and by doing that, they use other people's pictures
13:33and they could change their name
13:35basically to create this online profile.
13:39My granddad had been taken into hospital in 2014
13:42and whilst I was visiting him back and forth,
13:45I was actually receiving messages by someone online
13:48called David Graham
13:49and through a few conversations,
13:51David Graham had suggested that he was my granddad's physio
13:55and actually worked in the hospital that he was in.
13:59And yeah, from there, it just kind of spiralled.
14:02Yes.
14:02So the interaction with you and this male medical expert
14:07that was messaging you started off quite normal,
14:11quite innocent.
14:12And when did you realise something wasn't quite right
14:14with what was going on?
14:15Well, David had then uploaded this beautiful flyer
14:19of having an NHS charity ball
14:21and he was looking for entertainers.
14:22At the time, I was dancing,
14:24so I had actually messaged him and said,
14:26oh, I would love to get involved in this.
14:28And then we shared the poster
14:30and from there, others had said,
14:33oh, how do you know David Graham?
14:34Because I also know David Graham.
14:36And then we kind of started to figure out
14:38that this person could possibly not be real.
14:42We then created a group called 007.
14:46And then from there,
14:48we gathered more evidence to suggest
14:50that David Graham wasn't actually who he said he was.
14:53So David Graham was actually a woman called Adele
14:56who was actually a nurse in the hospital.
14:59So not a doctor looking after your granddad, a nurse.
15:02And Dr. Carr, can I just bring you in at this point?
15:04Why do people do this?
15:06Because this wasn't financially motivated.
15:08No, this is quite an extraordinary story.
15:10Although it's not financially motivated,
15:12it still is reward driven.
15:14It's all about the emotional reward
15:16that you get from it.
15:17So you get the love and attention,
15:19also the psychological need,
15:21you get the power and the control and the influence.
15:24And also you have this more experience-based reward.
15:27So it's all about the thrill of getting away with it,
15:29particularly where there's this in-person element as well,
15:33endorsement saying, you know, I'm a doctor,
15:35you know, all that credibility you get from that.
15:38So it's really designed to influence individuals
15:41on that personal level.
15:43So we've seen many cases where scammers
15:46will pretend to be someone else
15:47in order to get money out of someone, for example.
15:49But this is slightly different,
15:51but it's still incredibly dangerous.
15:53Why?
15:54It's extraordinarily dangerous.
15:56And in this case, and in many others like it,
15:58although it's quite rare,
15:59it does follow this pattern for escalation.
16:01So we see, you know, the love bombing to start with,
16:04you know, pretending to be somebody else.
16:05But then we move into stalking,
16:07online deception,
16:08and then also sexual coercion as well.
16:11This is an incredibly dangerous escalation
16:13and it continues.
16:14It's all about power and control.
16:16And what's incredible about this
16:17is how sophisticated it was
16:19because there might be people at home going,
16:21well, hang on, how did you not realise it was a woman?
16:23But it was, she was using a voice app
16:25to change her voice into a male voice, wasn't she?
16:27And there was so many women connected to this,
16:30which you found out through your group
16:32and took to the police.
16:33Yeah, and I think as well,
16:34Adele was very good at manipulating people as herself.
16:38So she was also given the credibility
16:40that David Graham was real
16:41by saying that David was her cousin
16:43or she knew David
16:44and almost validating to people that David was real.
16:48Yeah, it's worth explaining that to people.
16:50So Adele, separately to this persona she created of David,
16:53was then also messaging you,
16:55was meeting some of the women
16:56and saying, oh, David's really lovely, I know him.
16:59Backing up the story that she'd created.
17:01And Adele just looks like a very normal woman,
17:04could be one of your mates.
17:05Yeah, you believe her.
17:06Yeah, so you totally believed her
17:07and you could see how that would then happen.
17:09But you took it to the police
17:10and then what happened?
17:11Took it to the police
17:12and then after a few years,
17:15more victims came forward.
17:16So we were building a big case here
17:18and eventually in 2017,
17:20she was put in prison
17:22and she was charged.
17:25And yeah,
17:26then it kind of escalated from there as well.
17:29And some heavy charges as well.
17:31So we've got stalking,
17:31as you said, Dr Carter,
17:32stalking, deception and sexual coercion
17:35were the charges.
17:36She was actually put in prison.
17:37So was that the end of it?
17:39No, unfortunately it wasn't.
17:40She has came out a few times now.
17:44We're now on the fourth time
17:45she's been put in prison.
17:46Every time she comes out,
17:47she actually does re-offend
17:48and she re-offends to previous victims
17:51and also new victims.
17:52And things do escalate even more
17:55and they do get worse.
17:56Yeah, that's the thing here
17:57is it's that escalation,
17:58as you mentioned, Doctor,
17:59and that's really scary for people
18:02how bad it got.
18:03And I imagine people
18:03a lot of felt shame,
18:04they didn't want to talk about it.
18:06It's all designed
18:07to make you feel ashamed,
18:08like you've done something wrong,
18:10like you're trying to tarnish
18:11the reputation of the person
18:12who's actually attacking you.
18:14And the speed of re-offending
18:15is incredibly important
18:17as well as the escalation.
18:18And we find in this case
18:19that victims that have pushed back
18:21have got this incredible,
18:22you know,
18:23anger towards them,
18:25aggression,
18:25and then physical threats as well.
18:27But in this case,
18:28there was some of the women involved
18:30thought they were talking to a man,
18:32they were exchanging explicit images
18:34because they thought
18:35they'd struck up a relationship
18:37with someone,
18:37which of course they had not.
18:39Psychologically,
18:39there's a big impact
18:41that something like this
18:41could have on so many people.
18:43Huge.
18:44Well, you feel incredibly vulnerable.
18:45You're at your most vulnerable state,
18:47you've exchanged intimate messages,
18:49images,
18:49but these were coerced out of you.
18:51In any other situation,
18:52you would definitely have said no.
18:54So that feeling
18:54that you've been used and abused
18:56is very real,
18:56even though there's no financial harm,
18:58the psychological harm
18:59is incredibly devastating.
19:01And what amazed me
19:02in this story as well,
19:03and I mean,
19:03Abbey, you play an incredible role in it,
19:05Detective Draper,
19:06pretty much throughout,
19:07but she turned on you at one point
19:09to make you look like you
19:11were the person
19:12doing something wrong,
19:13didn't she?
19:13Yeah, on the third occasion,
19:15I had spoke to Adele on the phone
19:18and she was even heavily
19:20manipulating me as herself
19:21to make me feel like
19:22I had got this wrong
19:24all these years
19:25and it wasn't her
19:26and I wanted to create
19:28this full thing
19:29and this was all on me
19:30and I actually did sit back
19:31at one point
19:32and thought,
19:32have I created this full drama
19:34and she doesn't deserve
19:35to be in prison
19:36and this is all on me?
19:37Classic gaslighting.
19:38Yes.
19:38And it did work.
19:40It worked for a little bit
19:41because I did feel like,
19:43oh gosh,
19:43but then I was like,
19:44actually, no,
19:45like, this is you.
19:46Well done as well
19:47for doing that.
19:48It's incredible, the story.
19:49I mean, it's really,
19:49it's well worth the watch.
19:50Yeah, it really is.
19:52Well, thank you so much
19:53for coming in
19:53and talking to us, you two
19:54and I'll tell you what,
19:55stick around for the rest of the day.
19:56I think we could use these two
19:57with some of our appeals.
19:58I know.
19:58We could actually.
19:59These two together.
20:00We'd solve plenty.
20:01Yeah, definitely.
20:02Thank you so much.
20:03Now, talking of abusive trust,
20:06how a friend of an elderly couple
20:08offered to be their bookkeeper
20:09and ended up stealing
20:10nearly a million pounds from them.
20:14Within the space of a year,
20:16all the money was all transferred,
20:18leaving them penniless
20:19so they can't pay for their care.
20:2118,000 pounds goes into your account.
20:23The next day,
20:25nine and a half thousand pounds
20:26goes to your account.
20:27It's a crazy amount of money.
20:29She has taken advantage of them
20:30when they are at their most vulnerable.
20:43In September 2023,
20:46Detective Sergeant Katie Lewis
20:47from the Thames Valley Police Fraud Unit
20:49received a call from a bank.
20:52They were concerned
20:53that a large sum of money
20:55had been moved out
20:56of an elderly customer's account.
21:00That was sufficient for us
21:01to request a safeguarding visit.
21:03So an officer went to the house
21:05where the victim is believed to live,
21:08but we identified
21:09that she had been in care
21:10for the last four years.
21:11To protect the identities
21:12of the two elderly victims,
21:14we have changed their names
21:16to Catherine and James.
21:18We spoke to Catherine's care home.
21:21They informed us
21:21that she did have a husband called James,
21:23but he was in a separate care home
21:24and a bit further away.
21:27Police found out
21:28the couple used a woman
21:29called Susan Bruland
21:31to help them with their finances.
21:33Susan was a bookkeeper
21:34and really was a close
21:37and trusted friend
21:38of Catherine and James.
21:41Susan obtained
21:42a power of attorney
21:43for James back in 2017
21:45and in 2018
21:47she obtained it for Catherine.
21:49A power of attorney
21:50gives a person
21:51the legal authority
21:52to make health,
21:53welfare and financial decisions
21:55on behalf of someone else.
21:57Police could see
21:58Susan had been withdrawing
22:00regular sums of money
22:01from Catherine's account.
22:03The intel itself
22:04raised concerns
22:05and flags for me
22:06but we need to ascertain
22:08if we think it is
22:08a criminal offence.
22:10So the biggest inquiry
22:12was with the banks
22:14and it showed
22:16quite a complicated money trail
22:17that money was moved
22:18between different accounts
22:19so we had to work out
22:20where the money had gone
22:22and what it had been used for.
22:24In 2019
22:25James and Catherine
22:27had both moved
22:28into care homes.
22:30The fees
22:31are quite high
22:32so Susan
22:33sold the house
22:34on their behalf
22:35which is
22:35in keeping with
22:36being a power of attorney
22:37and it's quite normal practice.
22:39The money from that sale
22:41was divided
22:42by Susan Bruland
22:43into two accounts.
22:45£300,000
22:46for Catherine
22:47and the same
22:48for James.
22:48The aim
22:49was to pay
22:50for their care.
22:52For the first few years
22:53all the finances
22:54were in order
22:54and there was nothing
22:55untoward.
22:56She was paying
22:57the care home fees
22:58and everything
22:59was as you'd expect.
23:03But then
23:04in August 2022
23:06two lots
23:06of £19,000
23:08was transferred
23:09to Susan
23:10titled
23:11toiletries.
23:13I think
23:14anyone
23:14would look at that
23:15and think
23:16£40,000
23:16is a considerable
23:18amount of money
23:19to be spending
23:19on toiletries
23:20when somebody
23:20is in a care home.
23:22A month later
23:23it happened again
23:24and another £18,000
23:26was transferred.
23:30It really changed
23:32from about
23:32January 2023.
23:34Lots of round amounts
23:35every month
23:36on average
23:37about £20,000
23:38at a time.
23:40Susan made it
23:41a little bit more complicated
23:42by moving money
23:43between accounts.
23:45So even between
23:45James and Catherine
23:47themselves
23:47potentially
23:48in a bid to avoid
23:50any concerns
23:51from the banks.
23:54In fact
23:55Susan transferred
23:56over £550,000
23:58into her own
24:00business accounts.
24:01She then went on
24:03to liquidate
24:03the couple's investments.
24:06Within the space
24:07of a year
24:07all the money
24:08that James and Catherine
24:09had which was substantial
24:10was all transferred
24:11from the bank accounts
24:12leaving
24:13almost nothing.
24:14On the 17th
24:16of January 2024
24:17she was arrested
24:18at her home.
24:22Susan Brulin
24:23Tenswelly
24:24please.
24:25Can we come in
24:25please?
24:28We've got a warrant
24:29from the court
24:30for your arrest
24:32and to search
24:33the house.
24:34So
24:35at this point
24:37601
24:37I'm arresting you
24:39on suspicion
24:40of frauds
24:41and money laundering.
24:42You do not have
24:43to say anything
24:44but it may harm
24:44your defence
24:45if you do not mention
24:46when questioned
24:47something that you
24:47later rely on
24:48in court.
24:49Anything you do say
24:50may be given
24:50in evidence.
24:51OK?
24:52She lived on her own
24:53in a rented property
24:54but there was
24:54absolutely nothing
24:55to suggest
24:56she had used
24:56that money
24:57to buy herself
24:59anything high value.
25:02on 28th
25:0318,000 pounds
25:04goes into your account
25:05the next day
25:069,500 pounds
25:08goes to your account
25:09the following day
25:1022,000 goes
25:11to your account
25:12and so on
25:12and so on.
25:13She claimed
25:14she had an agreement
25:15to pay off
25:15her loans and debts
25:16by borrowing
25:17this money.
25:18Was there any terms
25:19as to
25:21what money
25:21was to be used for?
25:23It was to help me
25:24get through
25:24and get the pub
25:25up and running
25:26and get me
25:27to follow my dreams.
25:28And that's what
25:28she agreed to?
25:29Yeah.
25:29OK.
25:32Catherine just
25:33wouldn't agree
25:33for it to all be taken.
25:34It's a crazy amount
25:35of money.
25:37We know
25:38around that time
25:39Susan had
25:40personal problems
25:41the issues
25:42with her business
25:42and she has used
25:44all their money
25:44to help herself
25:46leaving them penniless
25:47so they can't pay
25:48for their care.
25:49I need to sort it out
25:50I'm trying to sort it out
25:52I'm trying to get
25:53everything
25:54on an even keel.
25:56She told police
25:58she had bought
25:58£150,000 worth
26:00of cryptocurrency
26:01but that she had
26:02been defrauded
26:03and was trying
26:04to get it back.
26:06I'm surprised
26:07knowing her background
26:08and her profession
26:09that she had allowed
26:10it to happen
26:10but she didn't want
26:12to exceed
26:13reality of the problem.
26:14Would you care
26:15to venture a guess
26:16as to how much
26:17money you've
26:18taken?
26:22I don't know.
26:24That was in the excess
26:25of £900,000.
26:27Wow.
26:32I expected
26:33more remorse
26:34I'll be honest.
26:35There was never
26:36any point
26:36when she said
26:37I'm really sorry
26:38I can't believe
26:39I let this happen
26:39but those words
26:40didn't come.
26:42She has taken
26:43advantage of them
26:44when they are
26:44at their most vulnerable.
26:46Having taken
26:47over £900,000
26:49of her friend's money
26:50Susan Brulin
26:51was sentenced
26:52to five years
26:53in prison
26:54for two counts
26:55of fraud
26:55by abuse of position.
27:00Sadly
27:01Catherine passed away
27:02a few weeks
27:03after we started
27:03the investigation.
27:05James is
27:06still alive
27:07he's in care
27:08but I'm really glad
27:09that they have
27:10no idea
27:11that this happened.
27:12I would hate
27:13to think of
27:13the emotional impact
27:15it would have
27:15on them
27:16knowing that
27:16someone who is
27:17really close to them
27:17has abused their trust.
27:23Exactly that
27:24massive abuse
27:25of trust
27:25and a huge amount
27:26of money
27:26but I'm glad
27:27the detectives
27:28got a result there.
27:29Now I'm joined
27:30by Detective Sergeant
27:31Maria Isom
27:32from the
27:33South East Regional
27:34Organised Crime Unit
27:35who's urgently
27:36looking for the
27:37whereabouts
27:37of this man
27:38Charlie Salisbury.
27:40Maria what can you
27:41tell us about
27:42this man
27:43that you're after?
27:44Yes Raph
27:45this is
27:46Charlie Salisbury
27:47he is wanted
27:48by us
27:48for offences
27:49of conspiracy
27:50to supply
27:51class A drugs
27:52and associated
27:53money laundering
27:54offences.
27:55We last spoke
27:56to Charlie
27:57on the 18th
27:58of May
27:582021
27:59we went
28:00to his home
28:01address
28:01in Bicester
28:02which is in
28:02Thames Valley
28:03and we conducted
28:04a search warrant
28:04there.
28:05Unfortunately
28:06Charlie was not
28:07present.
28:08He did call us
28:08up though
28:09and he said
28:09he would hand
28:10himself in
28:10unfortunately
28:11he never did
28:12and we haven't
28:13spoken to him
28:13since.
28:14So that's
28:14five years
28:15almost
28:16exactly.
28:18Okay let's
28:19try and find him
28:19what does he look
28:20like give us a
28:20description if you
28:21can.
28:21Yes so Charlie
28:22is 34 now
28:23he's about
28:24five foot seven
28:25he previously
28:26had either cropped
28:27hair you can see
28:28in this picture
28:29or slightly longer
28:30hair
28:30he does have
28:32some very
28:32distinctive tattoos
28:33so he has a
28:35tattoo of a
28:36koi carp
28:37and also a
28:38dragon.
28:40You can see
28:40a large one
28:41on his calf
28:41there can't
28:42we?
28:42Yeah.
28:43Yeah another
28:43sleeve on his
28:44arm.
28:45Yeah.
28:46Charlie grew up
28:47in the Hayes
28:48and Hillingdon
28:48area so North
28:49London and as
28:51I said he was
28:52actually living in
28:53Bicester at the
28:53time that we did
28:54the search warrant
28:55and we know
28:56that Charlie is
28:57an avid
28:57Queen's Park
28:58Rangers football
28:59fan.
29:00Okay so good
29:01clues and if
29:02anyone thinks
29:03they know where
29:04he might be
29:04he was actually
29:06part of a wider
29:06gang wasn't he?
29:07that have been
29:08arrested.
29:09Yeah that's
29:09correct so this
29:10is actually part
29:11of a much
29:11wider nationwide
29:13investigation called
29:15Operation Venetic.
29:16So Operation
29:17Venetic involved
29:18organised crime
29:19groups across
29:20Europe accessing
29:21a highly secretive
29:23and encrypted
29:23messaging service.
29:25In early 2020
29:26law enforcement
29:27actually were able
29:29to get into that
29:29messaging service
29:30and Charlie was
29:32using that and
29:34he was using a
29:35false name and
29:36we call it
29:37handle name
29:38and his was
29:39Amused Penguin
29:40and when we
29:42looked through
29:42the messages
29:42we could see
29:43that Charlie
29:44was playing a
29:45really big
29:45significant role
29:46in an organised
29:48crime group
29:49moving large
29:50quantities of
29:51cocaine at that
29:52time that we
29:53were looking into
29:53those offences.
29:54Well it's a huge
29:55job and I know
29:56that some have
29:56been sentenced
29:57already.
29:58Yes that's
29:58correct so it
29:59was actually he
30:00was part of a
30:01bigger group of
30:02six individuals
30:03all of those
30:04people have now
30:05been convicted
30:06either found
30:07guilty or found
30:08guilty at trial
30:09and the combined
30:10total sentencing
30:11is about 30
30:12years and two
30:14of those
30:15defendants were
30:16found guilty of
30:17money laundering
30:18offences and
30:19one of those was
30:20Charlie's ex-partner
30:21who he has two
30:22young children with
30:23at the time.
30:25So it's five
30:26years, a long
30:26time to be on
30:27the run.
30:27Yeah.
30:28Where do you think
30:28he could be now?
30:29Who are you really
30:30appealing to?
30:31Yeah, so I
30:32think he's
30:32probably been
30:32supported by
30:33wider associates
30:35in the criminal
30:35network.
30:36We think it's
30:37possible that
30:37Charlie left
30:38the UK and
30:39is possibly in
30:40southern Spain
30:41and so our
30:42appeal today is
30:43really to those
30:44people that might
30:45recognise Charlie
30:45that can come
30:46forward but more
30:48importantly we are
30:49trying to appeal
30:49to Charlie
30:50himself.
30:51He has, as I
30:52said, two young
30:53children here.
30:54It's fair to say
30:55that the other
30:55defendants that have
30:56been convicted are
30:57now on probation.
30:59So that seems
31:01interesting.
31:01So when you
31:02spoke to him
31:03last five years
31:04ago he said he
31:05was coming into
31:05the police station,
31:06he didn't turn
31:07up.
31:07Those that were
31:08dealt with then
31:09have done their
31:10time and come
31:10out.
31:11Yeah, so had
31:12Charlie done what
31:13he said he was
31:13going to do he'd
31:14probably be out
31:14spending time with
31:15his children right
31:16now.
31:17So it's really
31:18important that he
31:18just gets in
31:19contact with us and
31:20we can make those
31:21necessary arrangements.
31:22Maria, thank you.
31:23Well let's try and
31:23make that happen.
31:24If you know this
31:26man, if you know
31:27where he might be,
31:28remember it's
31:28Charlie Salisbury.
31:29Charlie, if you're
31:30watching yourself,
31:31get in touch.
31:31We want to hear
31:32from you.
31:32We made it easy.
31:33The number's at the
31:33bottom of the screen.
31:34Give us a call, tell
31:35us where you are and
31:36we can make the
31:37necessary arrangements.
31:38But if you can help
31:39locate him, do get in
31:40touch.
31:42Yes, please do.
31:43Now, how a charity
31:45pay tribute to those
31:46officers who have
31:47fallen in the line of
31:49duty.
31:52Every day, police
31:53officers up and down
31:54the country put on
31:55their uniform and put
31:57themselves in dangerous
31:59situations or at harm's
32:01way.
32:03Most often, they come
32:04back home and go back
32:05to their loved ones.
32:06On small occasions, some
32:08officers don't make it
32:10and what they leave
32:12behind is shattered
32:13lives of families and
32:14loved ones that don't see
32:16them come back home.
32:22I'm Vinnie Waggiani.
32:24I'm a detective
32:25inspector at Kemp
32:27Police and I've been a
32:28police officer for 20
32:30plus years.
32:31In the early years of
32:33my career, I really
32:35felt the vulnerabilities.
32:37I never knew if
32:39someone was going to
32:40pull out a knife and
32:41stab me.
32:42When I do have
32:43conversations with my
32:44wife, she feels the
32:46fear.
32:47when I leave the
32:48front door.
32:53In 2011, we lost a
32:56police officer who was
32:57killed.
32:58A colleague of mine
32:59felt he had to do
33:01something to raise some
33:03money for the two
33:03children that were left
33:05behind.
33:06His vision was to get
33:08groups of people to
33:10climb mountains and
33:13when they got to the top
33:14of the mountain, they
33:15would light lanterns
33:16to remember the fallen
33:18officer.
33:21That's where Light the
33:23Lakes was born.
33:27On an event day, people
33:30will gather and they'll
33:31start getting ready with
33:33their hiking boots and
33:34start making the steady
33:36paces to scale the
33:37mountains that they're
33:38going to climb.
33:40during the journey of the
33:41mountain climbing, there'll
33:43be laughs, there'll be
33:45tears, and as we get to
33:47the top, there's a sigh of
33:49relief that we've got
33:50there.
33:51The feeling is hard to
33:53explain when you get a
33:54moment of silence and then
33:57at three o'clock in the
33:57morning, you start seeing
34:00lights lighting up from each
34:01peak to each peak.
34:02And it's that moment where
34:04people feel connected.
34:08And every year, when I
34:09light the flare, I have
34:12that same feeling of
34:13goosebumps, that
34:16peacefulness and that
34:17moment of reflection where
34:19you're just remembering
34:20police officers that have
34:21died.
34:24There'll be a moment where
34:26I will roll call all the
34:29police officers that have
34:30died during that year from
34:32duty.
34:35Daniel Golding from
34:37Metropolitan Police.
34:40Daniel Gower from
34:42Hampshire and Isle of
34:43White Constabulary.
34:49Richard Kemp from
34:51Lancashire Constabulary.
34:54Steve Creel from
34:56Sussex Police.
34:58Bruce Lister from
35:00Hertfordshire Constabulary.
35:10The event provides an
35:13opportunity for quite a lot
35:15of people where losing a
35:17loved one is still raw.
35:21And the journey to the top of
35:23the mountain gives them a
35:25sense of peace.
35:31We partnered with a charity
35:34who support the family of
35:36fallen officers.
35:38And we've seen the numbers of
35:41participants grow as the
35:43events grown year by year.
35:47Like the Lakes gives people an
35:48opportunity to connect and as
35:50part of that connection, we're
35:52able to remember our fallen
35:54officers together.
35:56And it's that togetherness that
35:58allows us to create stronger
36:00healing powers.
36:03Such an important cause, isn't
36:04it?
36:04And I'm delighted to say they
36:05have now raised over £200,000
36:08through those walks, which is
36:10brilliant.
36:11So well done.
36:12Now in the studio, we have some
36:13very special guests with us.
36:15Lucy McLeod is the Borough
36:17Commander for Hammersmith and
36:18Fulham for the London Fire
36:20Brigade.
36:20And she's brought with her the
36:22beautiful well-being dog,
36:24Blue.
36:24Lovely to see you both.
36:25Thank you for coming in.
36:27Loads to chat to you about
36:28Blue.
36:29But first of all, tell us a bit
36:30about you because, I mean, I can't
36:32believe the figures on how many
36:33women there are as firefighters.
36:35It's only 8%, isn't it?
36:36You're one of them.
36:37You've done really well.
36:38You're one of the most senior.
36:39What was your journey?
36:41So I joined late.
36:43I didn't think it was a job for
36:44me because it was never put out
36:47there.
36:48I joined at 29.
36:48I started as non-operational,
36:50became operational.
36:52And that's almost 17 years ago.
36:54And I'm trying to influence, you
36:57know, women to join the service.
36:59It's really important.
37:00We're lucky in London where we've
37:02got slightly more than 8%, 10%,
37:04but still it's not really enough.
37:06And one of the ways that I'm hoping
37:07to do that is by...
37:10Oh, you've got a book?
37:11Yes.
37:11It's you and Blue.
37:12A book.
37:12Yeah.
37:13So what I realised, sorry, what I
37:15realised was there's no real
37:16representation in children's books
37:18with women firefighters.
37:20Yes, so true.
37:21So I'm hopeful that that will help.
37:24Yes.
37:25And you've got a really senior job,
37:27haven't you, as well?
37:28So tell us a bit, did you face many
37:30barriers getting to the top?
37:33I think it's really difficult
37:35because I don't look like a
37:36firefighter.
37:37So generally every day I'll get
37:39some, there are barriers with the
37:41public.
37:43But if you were to put a firefighter
37:46into AI, you're not going to get a
37:47picture of me back.
37:48So I think...
37:48So true.
37:49Yeah.
37:50So that's a barrier in itself.
37:51So having people out there as role
37:53models so that people can look and
37:55go, oh yeah, I've, oh, he loves you.
37:58I know, yeah.
37:59He's coming over to give you some
38:00love so that people can aspire to it.
38:02And if you can see it, you can be it,
38:04you can believe it, can't you?
38:05Yeah, yeah.
38:05And that's what's really important.
38:07It's so key, as you've said.
38:08So tell us about Blue then.
38:10What's Blue's job?
38:11So Blue is a trauma and wellbeing dog.
38:13He qualified as an IK9 dog in 2024.
38:15And he comes with me to have difficult
38:17conversations about mental health.
38:20So we go to the fire stations and, you
38:23know, my uniform can be a barrier.
38:25So he acts as a bit of a buffer and a
38:27bridge.
38:28He'll come in just like he did with
38:29you.
38:29Yeah.
38:30And positive interactions with dogs
38:32will prove, are proven to lower your
38:34cortisol and up your feel-good hormones
38:36like serotonin and oxytocin.
38:38So then you might open up and speak
38:41about other things.
38:43Yeah, because when you came into the
38:44studio, literally everyone was around
38:45you.
38:46It was like you had cakes or something.
38:47They're the only occasions everyone
38:48will come to you like that.
38:49But it's that, isn't it?
38:51Yeah.
38:51And that's what you're getting with
38:52firefighters who are maybe struggling
38:54with, you know, what's going on with
38:56work having to do really tough stuff.
38:58Absolutely that, yeah.
38:59And it's about then me being able to
39:01have that conversation to signpost them
39:03to places that I can get help.
39:04And it's really positive.
39:06People do do that because they've
39:08opened up and they've, blues allowed
39:09that conversation to happen.
39:11So really important stuff.
39:12Yeah, because the reaction you've had
39:14has been quite incredible, hasn't it?
39:16Yeah.
39:17And I'm one of, I've one of, we've got
39:1910 dogs in London and we've got all
39:22shapes and sizes because he's very
39:24unusual looking and there's the bright
39:25blue eyes as well.
39:26Yeah, the eyes.
39:26Yeah, they just, people get drawn to
39:28him.
39:28And even, you know, the older sort of
39:31longer in the tooth firefighters, once
39:33you start talking to them, they can, you
39:35know, they've gone and got their own
39:36help.
39:36So that's great for us because we keep
39:38them in service then.
39:39And it's really important.
39:40Yes, because I know some people might
39:42be a bit like, oh, you know, that dog's
39:44not going to make a difference and think
39:46it's all a bit woo-woo and you've proven
39:47it isn't.
39:48Yeah, absolutely.
39:49And there's loads of other dogs working
39:51with the OK9 network as well, with the
39:54police and the ambulance, doing some
39:56really good stuff.
39:57So, yeah.
39:58Yeah.
39:59So I know I keep thinking saying we should
40:00get a studio dog.
40:01I think you should.
40:02It just calms everyone down, doesn't it?
40:03But you have, you've done so well for
40:05yourself because you've won a big award
40:06as well, haven't you, as the most
40:07influential woman in firefighting.
40:09What did that feel like?
40:12Yeah, that was in December and I was
40:14really grateful to get shortlisted in
40:16the first instance.
40:17There was a great group of people that
40:18I was up against and when they read out
40:20my name, I was like, oh, oh my goodness,
40:21that's me.
40:22I need to get up and get that award.
40:25I was a little bit embarrassed because
40:26it's about some of the work that Blue
40:27and I do.
40:28It's about the way I lead.
40:30It's a number of different things,
40:32but actually, you know, it's a great
40:34platform to be able to help more people.
40:36Yeah.
40:38I'm the only woman national tactical advisor
40:41in urban search and rescue in the country.
40:45I'm the only fellow of the Institute of Search
40:47and Technical Rescue as a woman and I think
40:49there's so much more to do.
40:51So it gives me a real platform to be able
40:53to do that.
40:54So what would you say then to anyone watching
40:56this who might think, oh, hang on,
40:58maybe this is for me.
40:59What would you say to them?
41:01Come down, come down to a fire station
41:02if you're in London and you're more than
41:04welcome to drop me a line, come and have a
41:07look, see how a fire station works.
41:09Do that.
41:10We've got some great outreach programmes
41:12that you can go and have a look.
41:13Actually, most fire services that happen
41:15down the country do.
41:16Go and have a look, see if it's for you.
41:18And if you're into sports and fitness
41:21and a different thing every day,
41:24then, yeah, it's for you.
41:25Yeah, it's for you.
41:26Brilliant.
41:26Well, thank you so much for coming in.
41:27Thank you, Lucy.
41:28Thank you, Blue.
41:28I know Rav will be jealous not to be here
41:30with us.
41:31Rav.
41:33Yes, I am very jealous.
41:35But I am hearing really good calls coming in
41:37about those human remains that were found
41:39in North Wales.
41:40So please do keep those coming.
41:42Now, for the last time this series,
41:44we have got wanted faces.
41:49First, we have Kyle Campbell,
41:51who also uses the surname Manners.
41:53South Yorkshire police are looking for the 25-year-old
41:56after he failed to appear at court
41:57following being charged with GBH with intent.
42:00His average build and height
42:01with a northern accent and links to Doncaster,
42:03though recent intelligence suggests
42:05he could be in the new Rossington area of the city.
42:09Next, Siwan Hassan,
42:11but he also goes by Siwan and Saban.
42:14He's also been recalled to prison.
42:16He's now at large.
42:17He's 42, has links to Midlands
42:18and also South Yorkshire.
42:21And last for today in the series,
42:22South Wales police want your help
42:24to find Hakim Sarvast.
42:27Police want to speak to him about a stabbing
42:28which took place in a kebab shop in Cardiff
42:31in January this year.
42:32It left a man with serious injuries.
42:35So if you know where any of these three men are,
42:37do get in touch.
42:38And I'm afraid that's all we've got time for today
42:39in the series.
42:40Thank you for watching over the last three weeks
42:42and for all those calls.
42:44Remember, you can catch us on iPlayer
42:46for the next 30 days.
42:47Yes, you can also watch our sister series,
42:49Crimewatch Court.
42:50That's going to be on from Monday at 10.45.
42:53Here's a little taster for you.
42:56Hello, police emergency.
43:02Oh, please, don't be here.
43:07Oh, you're here.
43:15We'll work around the clock
43:16if it means putting criminals behind bars.
43:18It only takes our one mistake
43:20for us to catch you.
43:22Crime doesn't pay.
43:23You will be caught.
43:28Oh, it looks good.
43:29Some cracking stories in that.
43:30We'll be back in autumn.
43:32Until then, take care.
43:33Yeah, bye-bye for now.
43:34See you.
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