00:00Egan, uusad na sa hearing proper ay ikatlo at ikaapat na impeachment complaints
00:05laban kay Vice President Sarah Duterte sa susunod na linggo.
00:09At kauna niya, maapanayin natin si House Justice Committee Chairperson
00:12at Batangas 2nd District Representative Jerville Luistro.
00:16Maganda umaga po, Congresswoman.
00:18Good morning, Egan, and good morning sa lahat ng mga nanonood at nakikinig sa unang hili.
00:24Salamat po. At ito na, anong paghahanda po ng Justice Committee?
00:27Sabi niyo nga, parang mini-trial ng impeachment complaints saban kay VP Sarah Duterte.
00:34Well, apparently, since ang mangyayari dito sa mini-trial or hearing proper
00:41is the presentation of evidence, una ng complainant, tapos susunod ang respondent,
00:49ang paghahanda na ginagawa ng committee dito, of course, is itong ground rules,
00:55kailangang pag-usapan. Paano ba ang pagtatanong ng mga Justice Members?
01:01We call it direct examination. At paano ba ang cross-examination naman
01:05ng mga Justice Members?
01:08Maliwanag-Egan sa ilalim ng rules of impeachment ng House
01:11na ang pwede lang mag-participate sa direct and cross-examination
01:16are Justice Members, no?
01:19So, maraming nagtatanong about the participation of lawyers.
01:22The participation of lawyers are limited to assisting their clients or the parties, no?
01:29Let us understand na ito pong proceeding before the Justice Committee
01:33is synonymous to a preliminary investigation of a fiscal in a criminal proceedings, no?
01:40Ang full-blown trial po ay magaganap lamang tuon sa Senate
01:46after the transmittal of the House of Representatives
01:51kung papasa sa mga required number of votes, no?
01:55Ito pong mini-trial na ito, we are using this for the better understanding of the Filipino people
02:01dahil pagkakaroon po ng presentasyon ng witnesses, presentasyon ng mga evidence,
02:08ng complainant at ng respondent.
02:10But again, let me state for the record, Egan,
02:12the full-blown trial will happen only in the Senate of the Philippines.
02:17Kung ito'y preliminary lang, hindi naman siya kailangan dumalo ng personal?
02:22Well, option niya yan, Egan.
02:24But definitely, papadalhan natin ang notice, ang respondent,
02:28kung dadating siya o hindi, prerogative niya yun, option niya yun, choice niya yun.
02:34Aha. So dito maglalabasan na na ebidensya, congresswoman.
02:38That is correct.
02:39As a matter of fact, ngayon pala, may mga nakabimbina sa Justice Committee
02:44na mga requests for issuance of subpoena of documents from AMLA,
02:50from COA, at yung mga dokumentong nagamit sa Good Government Committee
02:56investigation during the 19th Congress.
03:00This is actually the correct time when to avail of this compulsory process
03:07ng Justice Committee of the House of Representatives
03:10sapagkat dito po talaga nire-receive ng Justice Committee
03:15lahat ng ebidensya coming from both parties.
03:18Kaya lang po ito magsisimula at gaano ang itatagal po nito?
03:23Alam mo, Egan, we are on recess, right?
03:26That is why we deliberately determined or predetermined
03:31few or a number of hearing dates
03:34para makabuelo naman ang ating mga kasama sa Congress
03:38coming from their respective legislative districts
03:41makarating sila sa House upang mag-join dito sa ating hearing.
03:46So the schedules that we have identified already include
03:49March 25 as our initial hearing date
03:53and then this will be followed by April 14
03:55and then April 22 and then April 29.
04:00So for may apat tayo nakahandang hearing dates.
04:03If you're asking gaano ito tatagal, no?
04:07Well, initially, let us understand na tayo po'y pinagkalooban ng rules
04:12ng 60 session days to finish the entire proceeding before the Justice Committee.
04:17But as to the idea kung gaano katagal ang magiging proseso ng hearing proper,
04:24it will depend on the amount of evidence which the parties will present.
04:30Hindi pa natin alam gaano ba karaming dokumento
04:33at gaano ba karaming witnesses ang gustong ilatag ng complainant
04:37at ganun din ng respondent for us to be able to assess
04:40kung gaano kahaba itong magiging hearing proper na ito.
04:44So may ebidensya na, hindi parang ngayon pa lang kayong mangangalap ng ebidensya.
04:49Well, definitely, meron na.
04:52Yeah.
04:52Meron na, Egan, remember the video of the Vice President
04:57making threat to the highest official of the land
05:00as part of the attachments ng complaint, no?
05:03Tapos, there are certifications from COA
05:06naka-attach na rin yun sa mga complaint nila.
05:08Ang wala pa lang ngayon, of course, are the bank records.
05:13Why?
05:14Because bank records are protected by the bank's secrecy law.
05:18And the exception to that ay during impeachment proceedings.
05:22Kaya ang manifestation ng mga congressman
05:25during the deliberation before the Justice Committee,
05:29we cannot expect,
05:30hindi natin pwedeng asahan ng mga complainant
05:33na may hawak ng bank records.
05:35Because we know for a fact na ito'y protectado,
05:38confidential sa inalim ng bank's secrecy law.
05:41And under claim law, the only exception that we have,
05:46actually, dalawa exceptions,
05:48one is by court order,
05:50pangalawa is impeachment case, no?
05:52And this is an impeachment case.
05:54So we expect na ngayon pa lang,
05:56magkakaroon ng pagkakataon ang mga complainant
05:59na inabas yung alleged bank records.
06:02Ito, yung motion to reject the entry of appearance
06:05ni Atty. Michael Powa at Atty. Raymond Monsayak
06:08dahil sa umunyong conflict of interest,
06:10may posisyon na ho ba ang committee?
06:12Well, ito'y isa sa ating pag-uusapan
06:15sa initial hearing on March 25.
06:17But just to amplify,
06:19bakit ba sinasabi nila na may conflict of interest?
06:22Because during the inquiry before the Good Government Committee,
06:27lumabas na at least persons of interest
06:29si Atty. Monsayak at si Atty. Powa.
06:33We remember that they are either the chief of staff
06:36or the spokesperson of the DepEd or the VP, no?
06:39During that time,
06:41the alleged period,
06:42nagkinamit itong confidential fund.
06:45So in other words,
06:47sila'y malaking bahagi ng naging proseso
06:50ng paggamit ng confidential fund.
06:52And ang sabi ni Atty. Ridon,
06:55kung papayagang maging counsel of record,
06:58itong dalawa ni VP Sarah,
07:01eh baka kapag hiningi na ng prosecutors
07:03yung testimonya nila,
07:05i-invoke nila ang privileged communication
07:08between a lawyer and a client
07:10because this cannot be disclosed,
07:14divulged even before the courts of law.
07:16Meron tayong rule
07:18under the law on evidence
07:21na lahat ng pinag-usapan
07:23sa klaw ng pag-uusap
07:25ng isang lawyer at ng kanyang kliyente
07:27ay bawal
07:28na sabihin kanino man
07:30sa publiko
07:31or sa mga investigation at hearing, no?
07:34So ito ang apprehension ni Congredon
07:36na kung papayagan
07:38ang entry of appearance
07:39ni Atty. Monsayak
07:40at ni Atty. Powa,
07:42baka hindi na magamit
07:44ang testimonya nila ng prosecution
07:46because they will be invoking
07:48the privileged communication
07:49between the lawyer and the client.
07:51Okay.
07:52Paliwanag na lang po natin
07:54ba't nung 19 Congress
07:56dumiretso sa Senado
07:57yung impeachment complaint
07:58laban kay VP Sarah.
07:59Ito, may mini trial
08:01o hearing proper
08:03na nangyayari
08:04sa kaso niya.
08:06Let us remember, Igan,
08:08that there are two modes
08:09of initiating an impeachment complaint, no?
08:12One is by a private citizen
08:16endorsed by a House member
08:18or by a House member himself
08:20in which case
08:21kailangan ito
08:23i-refer sa Justice Committee, no?
08:25That's the first mode.
08:26The second mode is
08:28by at least one-third vote
08:30of all the members of the House.
08:32This is what we call
08:33express lane.
08:34Ibig sabihin
08:36from the plenary
08:37diretsyo na sa Senado.
08:41Itong impeachment complaint
08:42na nasa atin ngayon
08:44before the Justice Committee
08:45was filed by private individuals
08:47endorsed by House members
08:49and therefore
08:50under the first mode.
08:51At sa ilalim ng batas,
08:53ito ay dapat
08:54i-refer sa Justice Committee
08:56to complete
08:57the initiation process, no?
08:59Okay.
09:00Tayo naman,
09:00pinahintulutan din
09:01ng saligang batas
09:03to come up with
09:04our own rules of impeachment.
09:06At ito yung rules of impeachment
09:08na sinusunod
09:08ng Justice Committee
09:09ngayon,
09:10including
09:11the requirement
09:12of having a hearing proper.
09:15Aha.
09:15So, ano aasaan ng publiko
09:17next week?
09:18Madugo?
09:18Well,
09:20ang aasaan ng publiko
09:22during our initial hearing,
09:23of course,
09:23we will be acting
09:24on the request
09:26for issuance of Sabina.
09:28Ito na yung mga sinasabi nating
09:30SALEN, ITR,
09:31and bank records
09:32with AMLA, no?
09:34Mm-hmm.
09:34Pangalawa,
09:35we will be acting
09:36on the petition
09:37for protective custody
09:38of Ramil Madriaga.
09:40Itong dalawang to,
09:41parehas ang requesting party
09:43dito,
09:43eh si Congressman Chaljok, no?
09:45And number three,
09:46we will be acting also
09:47on the concern
09:48of Congressman Ridon
09:50about the entry of appearance
09:51of Attorney Monsayak
09:53and Attorney Powa.
09:54Maraming salamat po.
09:56tama ganigan?
09:58Salamat po sa malinaw
09:59na pagpapaliwanag
10:00at taabangan po
10:00ng publiko yan.
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10:04Good morning.
10:05Good morning.
10:05Especially sa aking mga kababayan
10:07mula sa Lalawigan
10:08ng Batangas.
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10:09House Justice Committee
10:10Chairperson Jervil Luistro.
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