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00:31Good afternoon and welcome to the Countdown studio.
00:34Now, let's think about what professions children would consider to be dream jobs.
00:39And I read the other day about a chap who's making a living out of building huge structures out of
00:47Lego.
00:48He's built a horse, a life-size horse. Fine, I suppose so.
00:52He's built the model of a jetliner engine, a dreamliner engine.
00:58And then he thought, well, I'll tell you what, getting near Christmas, I'll throw up a 35-foot Christmas tree
01:04made out of Lego.
01:05Wow.
01:06Now, I thought, when I was a kid, what would have been my dream job?
01:09And, of course, in the 50s, when I was a young kid, it was a sort of the time of
01:14world records.
01:16The jet engine was coming into commercial service.
01:19Now, I remember John Cobb, he was racing on water when he crashed and sadly was killed, and Malcolm Campbell
01:25came along.
01:26So there were these very exciting, accessible world records, and they were just pushing it right to the very limit.
01:33And I thought, are all those exciting times over?
01:36Mm, I don't know.
01:37But what about that chap the other day?
01:39I'm sorry, I can't remember his name.
01:41I'm sure it'll be in the Guinness Book of Records or the world records, who cycled around the world in
01:4679 days.
01:47Did you read about him?
01:49Quite extraordinary.
01:50Yeah, I saw all the interviews with him.
01:52Yeah, he did.
01:52Amazing.
01:53An incredible feat.
01:54Well, you're a big cyclist.
01:55Do you fancy that?
01:56When I was younger, I think I wanted to play for Man United.
02:00That was more my ambition.
02:01Is it too late?
02:03They still don't have a women's team.
02:05What?
02:05And I'm, you know, 31 now, knocking on 32.
02:08I think it's probably past it.
02:09You know.
02:11Well, you're one of their most faithful fans in the next life.
02:14All right.
02:16Who's with us?
02:17None other than Bradley Horrocks, Rachel, who had a bit of a narrow, narrow squeak.
02:22I think you won 82 to 70, but only on the last sort of throw the dice, as it were.
02:28Yes, yeah.
02:29But nonetheless, you've now got four wins under your belt.
02:32Yeah?
02:33That's correct, yeah.
02:33So, well done.
02:34Well done.
02:34You're joined today by Steve Harris, retired manufacturing supervisor from Warrington, who's a big Liverpool fan, Rachel.
02:41Yes.
02:42Big Liverpool.
02:42He was in Rome in 77.
02:44Yes.
02:45What sort of night did you have there?
02:47It was a fantastic night.
02:48It was the first time they won the European Cup, and there was about 30,000 Scousers there.
02:54Really?
02:54To cheer them on.
02:55It was a sea of red and white.
02:56And you were young to up in your 20s?
02:58Yeah, mid-20s then, yeah.
03:00Brilliant stuff.
03:00Yeah.
03:01All right.
03:01Well, here you are.
03:02You're in another arena.
03:04Another big competition here.
03:05Good luck to you both.
03:06Big round of applause for Bradley and Steve.
03:13And over in the corner, of course, Susie, once again joined by the wonderful Dr. Linda Papadopoulos, our psychologist expert.
03:25Bradley, it's time to start today's countdown with a letters game.
03:29Hi, Rachel.
03:30Hi, Bradley.
03:30Vowel, please.
03:32Start today with E.
03:33And a consonant.
03:36And a consonant.
03:49And a consonant.
03:51A consonant.
03:51M.
03:53A vowel.
03:55O.
03:57And a consonant.
03:59And lastly, R.
04:01And here's the countdown clock.
04:34Yes, Bradley?
04:35Just five there.
04:37A five.
04:37And Steve?
04:38Just five.
04:39Bradley?
04:40Malware.
04:41Now, Steve?
04:42Power.
04:43And power?
04:44Yes, both absolutely fine.
04:47Now, any more fives or can we beat five, I wonder? Linda?
04:51Can't beat five.
04:52We got amour, which is a pretty word, but yeah, still at a five, I'm afraid.
04:57All right.
04:57That's it?
04:57That was it.
04:58All right.
05:00Yes, Steve.
05:01Your letters came.
05:03Hi, Rachel.
05:04Hi, Steve.
05:05Consonant, please.
05:06Start with L.
05:08Consonant.
05:11F.
05:11Vowel.
05:13E.
05:14Vowel.
05:16U.
05:17Consonant.
05:18L.
05:20Consonant.
05:20R.
05:22R.
05:22Vowel.
05:23I.
05:25Consonant.
05:26K.
05:28And another vowel, please.
05:30And the last one, O.
05:32Stand by.
05:34I.
05:50I.
05:52I.
05:52I.
05:59I.
06:02I.
06:03Yes, Steve.
06:06I'll risk a seven.
06:08Bradley?
06:09I'll stick with seven.
06:11Now, Steve.
06:12Folkier.
06:14And Bradley?
06:16Flukier.
06:17And Flukier.
06:19And Flukier.
06:21Both happen to be in the dictionary.
06:23Yes.
06:23Surprise me.
06:25Excellent.
06:26Excellent.
06:27Now, Linda.
06:29Susie?
06:30Fluke.
06:31Therefore, Flukier.
06:32But yeah, that was it.
06:33Yes.
06:33We were with them.
06:34Yeah.
06:35Well done.
06:36And what have we got?
06:3712 apiece.
06:38Bradley's numbers game now.
06:39Yes, sir.
06:40The bottom row, please, Rachel.
06:42Thought you might say that.
06:43The bottom row.
06:44Six tiny little ones to start us off.
06:46And they are 4, 2, 3, 4, 9 and 7.
06:55And the target, 666.
06:57666.
07:00666.
07:02666.
07:02666.
07:06766.
07:08666.
07:09867.
07:09867.
07:10866.
07:11866.
07:14966.
07:15107.
07:17966.
07:18966.
07:18107.
07:23966.
07:241047.
07:27118.
07:28109.
07:30Bradley?
07:31I think I've got 666.
07:33Steve?
07:34660.
07:36660. Let's try Bradley then, shall we?
07:387 times 4.
07:407 times 4 is 28.
07:42Take 2.
07:44Take 2 is 26.
07:45Times by 3.
07:47Is 78.
07:48Take 4.
07:49Take away the other 4, 74.
07:52And then times by 9.
07:53And you haven't used that. Well done. 666.
07:56Well done, Bradley.
08:01Well done, Bradley.
08:0222 plays 12.
08:03As we go into our first Tea Time teaser,
08:05which is Elaine Tadd.
08:08And the clue,
08:09Since moving away, Elaine felt detached from things.
08:12Since moving away, Elaine felt detached from things.
08:23APPLAUSE
08:31Welcome back.
08:32I left you with the clue.
08:33Since moving away, Elaine felt detached from things.
08:37In fact, she felt alienated.
08:40Alienated.
08:41Now, 22 for Bradley.
08:43Steve on 12.
08:44Steve, your letters came.
08:45Consonant, please.
08:48Thank you, Steve.
08:48V.
08:49Consonant.
08:51S.
08:52Vowel.
08:54U.
08:55Consonant.
08:56Y.
08:58Consonant.
08:59S.
09:01Vowel.
09:02A.
09:03Another vowel, please.
09:05E.
09:07Consonant.
09:08T.
09:09And a consonant.
09:11And lastly, another S.
09:13Stand by.
09:45Yes, Steve just five of five Bradley seven and Steve seats seats and Bradley suavest
10:02Now Linda and then there essays six pretty good Susie anything else?
10:08Yes, Dave's for six, but suavest but the only seven that seems to be there
10:1429 plays 12 and Bradley your letters game vowel, please. Thank you, Bradley you
10:22consonant
10:23N
10:26Vowel
10:26E
10:28consonant
10:29T
10:31vowel
10:34I
10:36consonant
10:37D
10:40vowel
10:41O
10:43consonant
10:45L
10:47And consonant
10:50And lastly, C
10:52Countdown
10:54And
10:55You
10:55And
10:55And
11:08And
11:11And
11:23And
11:24And
11:26Yes, Bradley.
11:27Eight.
11:28And eight, Steve?
11:29Eight.
11:29And Bradley?
11:31Outlined.
11:32Steve?
11:33Uncoiled.
11:34Uncoiled.
11:35Great word, yeah.
11:36Very good.
11:36Well done.
11:40Yeah.
11:41Linda and Susie combined have produced...
11:44We found those two, but you found a great one, Susie.
11:47And there's a third one, yes.
11:48Eduction.
11:49From deducing something to bring something out,
11:52so latent talent might be deduced,
11:53and that is eduction.
11:54To read it out, yeah.
11:55Yeah.
11:5637 plays 20.
11:57It's numbers now for Steve.
11:59Two large and four small, please, Rachel.
12:02Thank you, Steve.
12:03Two big ones, four little,
12:05and the four little ones are seven, four, three, eight,
12:10and the big ones 50 and 75.
12:13And the target to reach 634.
12:166-3-4.
12:48Yes, Steve?
12:506-3-6.
12:52Two away.
12:53Bradley Horrocks?
12:556-3-5, not written down.
12:57Let's hear from you, Bradley.
13:0075 plus four.
13:0175 plus four, 79.
13:04Times by eight.
13:05Times by eight is 632.
13:07Another three.
13:08Another three, one away.
13:106-3-5.
13:11Pretty good.
13:13But 6-3-4 is really what we needed.
13:15How difficult is that?
13:17I found a way if you say 75 times eight is 600,
13:22add the 50 for 650,
13:24and then seven minus three is four,
13:27times it by the four for 16,
13:28and take that away, you get 6-3-4.
13:30Smashing.
13:31Perfect.
13:34So, of course, standing 44 to Steve.
13:37In Bradley's favour, we turn to Linda.
13:39And you've got some tips for us today.
13:42Yeah.
13:43So, you know, mental health is something people speak about a lot.
13:46And I think sometimes we forget that it's doing the basics that helps.
13:50So, for example, getting enough sleep.
13:53Now, we used to think that depression caused problems with sleep,
13:57sleep disturbance.
13:58Now we've kind of figured out that it's also the other way around.
14:01If you don't sleep, you're more likely to feel pain more intently,
14:06to feel moods more intently.
14:08So, making sure that you get seven or eight hours a night,
14:11really important.
14:12Move.
14:13There's study after study that shows that moderate exercise helps,
14:18not just physiologically, but psychologically.
14:20It helps clear your mind.
14:21It helps, you know, level out chemicals within your brain.
14:25You know, great endorphin rushes.
14:27A really, you know, great way to keep things under wraps.
14:30Eat well.
14:31Make sure that you're not eating junk.
14:34We know that proper nourishment helps.
14:36So, eat, sleep, and move.
14:37And then I think that the fourth one,
14:39and the one that I think is particularly interesting,
14:41is how you think about things.
14:43Get on top of your thoughts.
14:44It's interesting that nothing in and of itself is stressful or worrying.
14:51It's the way that we understand it.
14:52So, the theory in psychology goes is,
14:54first I think, and then I feel, right?
14:57So, on a good day, imagine you're walking down the corridor of your work,
15:01and someone sees you that you know, but they don't say hi.
15:03You kind of think, oh, well, they didn't see me.
15:05That's fine.
15:06On a bad day, what do you think?
15:07Have I done something to them?
15:08Are they upset with me?
15:10What's going on?
15:10So, you start ruminating, getting those really negative thoughts.
15:13So, it's really important to kind of be on top of those thoughts.
15:17Are you catastrophizing?
15:18Are you jumping to conclusions?
15:21Are you polarizing?
15:22Are you kind of thinking, either I have to be perfect,
15:24and everything has to be just right, or everything's terrible?
15:27Get on top of those thinking errors.
15:29So, doing these basic things, kind of the stuff around sleeping
15:33and moving and eating, but also being on top of your thoughts,
15:36I think, is a great way forward when it comes to making sure
15:39you're taking care of your mental health.
15:41Good advice.
15:43Yeah.
15:47Thank you, Linda.
15:48Brilliant stuff.
15:4944 plays, 20.
15:50Bradley in the lead.
15:52And is Bradley's letters again?
15:54A vowel, please.
15:55Thank you, Bradley.
15:56E.
15:56And a consonant.
15:58D.
16:00And a vowel.
16:02A.
16:03And a consonant.
16:05R.
16:06And a vowel.
16:08I.
16:10And a consonant.
16:12N.
16:13And a consonant.
16:15P.
16:16And a consonant.
16:18P.
16:21And a vowel to finish off.
16:23And to finish, O.
16:25And here's the countdown clock.
16:42And a vowel to finish, O.
16:46And a vowel to finish, O.
16:46And a vowel to finish, O.
16:46And a vowel to finish, O.
16:46And a vowel to finish, O.
16:47And a vowel to finish, O.
16:49And a vowel to finish, O.
16:58Bradley.
16:59Eight.
17:00An eight?
17:01Steve.
17:02Six.
17:03And that six?
17:04Rat.
17:06I'm fascinated about this eight.
17:09Pandiro.
17:10Sorry, bear with me.
17:11Yes, it's a tambourine, usually with jingles.
17:14You could tell that one was new to me.
17:16Excellent.
17:16Excellent.
17:17Well done.
17:23It's tremendous.
17:2452 to 20 now.
17:26Steve, your letters again.
17:27Consonant, please.
17:29Thank you, Steve.
17:30G.
17:30Consonant.
17:32B.
17:34Vowel.
17:35E.
17:36Vowel.
17:39I.
17:40Vowel.
17:41O.
17:43Consonant.
17:44W.
17:45Consonant.
17:46L.
17:48Another consonant, please.
17:50B.
17:50And a vowel, please.
17:52And finish.
17:54E.
17:55Stand by.
17:56Vowel.
17:57Okay.
18:17All right.
18:19All right.
18:27Steve?
18:28Six.
18:29A six, Bradley?
18:30Six as well.
18:31Steve?
18:32Gobble.
18:33And?
18:34Oblige.
18:35Any more sixes?
18:36Linda?
18:37Wobble.
18:38Wobble and gobble, why not?
18:40Perfectly suited.
18:4158 plays 26.
18:43Bradley on 58.
18:46Now, it's a numbers game.
18:48Yes, Bradley?
18:49Can I have two from the top and four from anywhere else?
18:51You can indeed.
18:52Thank you, Bradley.
18:53Two large this time.
18:54And more, little ones.
18:55And these four.
18:56Smalls are eight, four, seven and ten.
19:00And the big ones, 75 and 100.
19:03And the target, 392.
19:06Three, nine, two.
19:38Bradley?
19:39Three, nine, two, just about.
19:41Just about.
19:41How about Steve?
19:42Three, nine, two.
19:44Good.
19:44Bradley?
19:45100 times four, take eight.
19:47Yeah, very simple.
19:48Three, nine, two.
19:48And Steve?
19:49Four times 75 is 300.
19:51Yeah.
19:52Plus 100, minus the eight.
19:53Yeah.
19:54We can work that out.
19:54There we go.
19:58So, score standing 68 to 36.
20:01Steve on 36.
20:02We'll have our second key time teaser, which is Terry Does.
20:06And the clue.
20:06Terry does break a lot of things, but even he can't wreck a warship.
20:12Terry does break a lot of things, but even he can't wreck a warship.
20:32Welcome back.
20:33I left you with the clue, Terry does break a lot of things, but even he can't wreck a warship.
20:39And the answer to that is that it's a destroyer.
20:43Destroyer.
20:44So, 68 to 36, Bradley in the lead, and it's Steve's letters game.
20:49Consonant, please, Rachel.
20:51Thank you, Steve.
20:52J.
20:53Vowel.
20:55I.
20:56Vowel.
20:57E.
20:58Consonant.
20:59M.
21:00Consonant.
21:02D.
21:03Vowel.
21:05A.
21:06Consonant.
21:07T.
21:08Consonant.
21:09P.
21:11A vowel, please.
21:12And the last one.
21:14Aye.
21:15Stand by.
21:17Stand by.
21:18Stand by.
21:23Stand by.
21:23Stand by.
21:24Stand by.
21:26Stand by.
21:28Stand by.
21:29Stand by.
21:31Stand by.
21:32Stand by.
21:32Stand by.
21:32Stand by.
21:33Stand by.
21:33Stand by.
21:33Stand by.
21:34Stand by.
21:34Stand by.
21:35Stand by.
21:35Stand by.
21:47Yes, Steve?
21:49Six.
21:50A six. Bradley?
21:51I'll call you six.
21:53Steve?
21:55J-8. J-A-I-P-E-D.
21:58And Bradley?
21:59Timped.
22:02OK, there's no japes.
22:06With the I, I'm afraid, so that's not in there.
22:10And timped is not there.
22:12I'm pretty sure that won't be there either.
22:14I think I'm going to have to say no to both of those.
22:15Yeah, that's not there.
22:16Pimped, but not timped, sorry.
22:18I'd like a bit of a standstill.
22:19And over in the corner, what have you got there?
22:21Linda, Susie?
22:22We got tamped for a six.
22:25Yes, to pack something down.
22:27So either something with a hole with explosive,
22:29or you can tamp down tobacco in your pipe to pack something firmly.
22:33Mm.
22:33They had little tampers, little metal tampers, didn't they?
22:36So there's a packet in, as you say.
22:3868 to 36, and it's Bradley's letters game.
22:42Vowel, please.
22:43Thank you, Bradley.
22:44O.
22:45And a consonant.
22:47R.
22:48And a vowel.
22:50I.
22:51And a consonant.
22:53T.
22:54And a vowel.
22:55Vowel.
22:56U.
22:57And a consonant.
22:59S.
23:00And a vowel.
23:02O.
23:04And a consonant.
23:06L.
23:08And a vowel.
23:10And A.
23:13Stand by.
23:15And a vowel.
23:33And a vowel.
23:33And a vowel.
23:33And a vowel.
23:34And a vowel.
23:34And a vowel.
23:34And a vowel.
23:34And a vowel.
23:34And a vowel.
23:34And a vowel.
23:35And a vowel.
23:45Bradley?
23:46Seven.
23:48And Steve?
23:49Seven.
23:50Bradley?
23:51Sotoir.
23:52And Steve?
23:54Rioters.
23:55Rioters.
23:57Yes, absolutely fine.
23:58Yep, Sotoir is the fine gold necklace with the very fine chain, in fact.
24:03Very good.
24:04And Linda?
24:06Susie?
24:07Just one more, Taylors.
24:09All right, 75 pays 43 as we turn to Susie
24:12for her wonderful origins of words.
24:15Yes, Susie?
24:16Well, two book-related words today, Nick,
24:19and I'm going to start with something you really don't want in your life,
24:22and that's libel of any kind.
24:24That is a written defamatory statement about you
24:27or information about you, as opposed to Slandra,
24:29which is always spoken.
24:31Libel goes back to the Latin libellus,
24:33which meant a little book.
24:35A libe was a book.
24:36It gave us library too.
24:38And that's just what it was originally.
24:40It was a very short essay or a treatise on some particular subject.
24:43But it moved on to encompass a leaflet or a pamphlet
24:47that was circulated to lots and lots of people.
24:50And because of the political pressures of the day,
24:53very often they would contain quite vehement
24:55and aggressive attacks on the government,
24:58and they were often defamatory.
25:00So defamatory, in fact, that that's where we got from libellus,
25:03that little book, the idea of libel.
25:05And I mentioned a pamphlet that was distributed around,
25:09and I love the story of pamphlet
25:10because it's so far removed from the meaning it has today.
25:14Not all of us will appreciate the pamphlets
25:15popping through our letterbox most days.
25:18But it originated in the late 1300s.
25:20It's very, very old.
25:21And it meant, again, a small treatise,
25:24or another word consisting of pages without covers.
25:27But its origin is quite wonderful.
25:28It comes from Pamphile,
25:31which was a French title of a completely anonymous
25:34but extremely popular 12th-century comic love poem.
25:37It was written in Latin,
25:39Pamphilus Sudoemore, or Pamphilus on love.
25:43And Pamphilus was the name of the hero
25:45who got his name from Pamphilos,
25:47meaning beloved by all in Greek.
25:50Don't quite know the subject of the poem,
25:52but I do know it was incredibly popular.
25:54And Pamphilus then produced Pamphilet,
25:57a little edition of Pamphilus, if you like.
26:00And, as I say, it was so popular,
26:01it was widely copied and passed around from person to person
26:04in the form of a very thin leaflet.
26:06So from that hero of an extremely popular love poem,
26:09we get the very prosaic word pamphlet today.
26:13Very good.
26:17That's very good.
26:18And the pamphleteers,
26:20one who hands them out on the street, I guess,
26:22through your letterbox these days.
26:2475 to 43.
26:26Right.
26:27Steve, your letters again.
26:29Consonant, please.
26:31Thank you, Steve.
26:31H.
26:32Consonant.
26:35R.
26:35Vowel.
26:37Vowel.
26:40E.
26:41Consonant.
26:43D.
26:44Vowel.
26:45I.
26:47Consonant.
26:48S.
26:49Consonant.
26:51D.
26:52And a vowel, please.
26:54And finally,
26:55A.
26:57Stand by.
26:57Doing good.
27:13We're done.
27:19We'll see you next time.
27:20Bye.
27:20Bye.
27:24Bye.
27:26Bye.
27:29Steve?
27:30Eight, not written down.
27:31An eight. Bradley?
27:34I'll stick with six, then.
27:35And your six? Radish.
27:38Radish. Steve?
27:40Diehards.
27:42Ooh. I think that is going to be absolutely excellent.
27:44It's all one word. Well done.
27:46Oh, super.
27:51Well played, Steve. Yeah.
27:5351 now to Bradley 75.
27:56And over in the corner.
27:58Any more eights over there?
27:59We've got one more. We've got redheads.
28:02Excellent. Susie, anything else?
28:04Nothing else, no.
28:05That's it. Redheads.
28:0775 to 51, and it's Bradley's
28:10final letters game.
28:12Foul, please.
28:13Thank you, Bradley. O.
28:15Consonant.
28:16Q.
28:18Consonant.
28:20N. Foul.
28:24A.
28:25Consonant.
28:27T.
28:29Vowel.
28:30I.
28:33Consonant.
28:34L.
28:36Vowel.
28:38E.
28:40And consonant.
28:42And lastly, T.
28:45Stand by.
28:46C.
28:47C.
28:48C.
28:49C.
28:52C.
28:54MUSIC PLAYS
29:16Bradley?
29:18Seven.
29:19Seven.
29:20Steve?
29:21Seven.
29:22Bradley?
29:23Tonal.
29:25Tonal.
29:25And Steve Harris?
29:26Elation.
29:27Elation.
29:28Happy enough?
29:29Yes.
29:31What else can we find in the corner, I wonder?
29:34Or have we found?
29:35Linda?
29:36We found tonalite.
29:38What is this tonalite, Susie?
29:40It's a term from geology, quite a specialist term.
29:43It's a coarse-grained plutonic rock,
29:45plutonic rock being a type of igneous rock.
29:48Well done.
29:51APPLAUSE
29:52So, 82 to 58,
29:54and it's into the final numbers game.
29:56Steve?
29:57One large and five small, please, Rachel.
30:00Thank you, Steve.
30:01One from the top row, five little ones.
30:02And the final numbers game of the day is...
30:05Seven.
30:06Five.
30:07Six.
30:08One.
30:09Nine.
30:10And the large one, 25.
30:12And a target.
30:13Oh, 750.
30:15Seven.
30:16Five.
30:16Oh.
30:48Yes, Steve?
30:49£7.50.
30:51And Bradley?
30:52£7.50.
30:53And Steve?
30:53Five times six times 25.
30:56Yeah, perfect. Very easy.
30:57Same for Bradley.
30:59I'm sure you are.
31:00Yeah, all right.
31:01So, as we reach 92 to 68, we turn to the final round.
31:07We reach for our buzzers.
31:11And we roll today's Countdown Conundrum.
31:17Bradley?
31:18Wow.
31:19Yes, Bradley?
31:20Darkening.
31:21Darkening.
31:22Let's see whether you're right.
31:25Fantastic.
31:30Well done, indeed.
31:32Well done.
31:33Come to you in a second.
31:35102, my word.
31:38Steve, when you came onto the set early, you saw, oh, I'm a bit nervous.
31:42You played really well.
31:44And as soon as you scored, you were off.
31:47You scored first time, I think.
31:49And didn't show any nerves at all.
31:51You played really well.
31:5268.
31:52It's better than most of his competitors have done.
31:57Well done.
31:58Thank you very much.
31:58You take this back to Warrington with our very best wishes.
32:02Well done.
32:02Good luck to Liverpool.
32:04Try and get back to Rome some other time.
32:06Now then.
32:08102.
32:09You've only had one little slip up when you were sub 100, I think.
32:12So it's fantastic.
32:13You've got five wins.
32:15Brilliant.
32:15We'll see you tomorrow.
32:16Congratulations, too.
32:18Well done.
32:18And we'll see Linda tomorrow and Susie, too.
32:22But before you go, Linda, I think you were involved with a project called Inside the Mind of a Serial
32:27Killer.
32:28Is that right?
32:29Yeah.
32:29What's that about?
32:30It's a show.
32:32I believe it's on Netflix now.
32:33And it kind of looks at what it takes to make someone a serial killer.
32:38And it's quite interesting because, like most things, it's not just your experiences.
32:43It's not just your biology.
32:45It's kind of a combination of everything.
32:47It's a combination of who you are as an individual, your personality traits, how you were raised, what happens to
32:54you,
32:54and that awful opportunity that means you just kind of go over the edge.
32:58So there's some really kind of interesting cases that we try and examine and figure out at what point did
33:05it all go wrong.
33:06It was fascinating to work on, but also really chilling to work on, I have to say.
33:11I bet.
33:11I bet.
33:12Yeah.
33:12And I suppose, you know, we do get these characters.
33:17And it sends a shudder through a nation, doesn't it, these sort of terrible murders?
33:23It does.
33:23And, look, I think, you know, the way that we respond to tragedy when we hear about it is that
33:29it feels much closer to us.
33:30And we have to always remember the difference between probability and possibility.
33:34Absolutely, these things happen, but they're very unlikely.
33:36And I think, to a large extent, what our country's going through for the last little while with, you know,
33:41different, you know, horrors, different attacks and everything.
33:44I think these things tend to be exaggerated in our minds.
33:46But, again, cognitive therapy are, you know, are they horrific?
33:50Yes.
33:50Are they likely to happen?
33:51Not really.
33:52Exactly.
33:53We'll see you tomorrow.
33:54Well done.
33:54And see you tomorrow, Susie.
33:55See you then.
33:56All right.
33:56And Rachel, too, of course.
33:57See you tomorrow.
33:58See you tomorrow.
33:59Look forward to it.
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