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00:01You spin me right round, call me when your time runs out, cause I know, I know, I know
00:07what you're, what you're all about, yeah.
00:10You spin me right round.
00:15I'm sure you've heard of like the dirty sodas.
00:18Yeah.
00:19Yeah, so I want to take you to try one.
00:22Are you down?
00:23Yeah, of course.
00:23Do you call it pop or soda?
00:25Haven't heard anyone under the age of like 60 call it pop.
00:30Yeah, I invited Ben to come visit me for the first time.
00:34He's from Virginia originally, but I met him off TikTok live.
00:41Lately, I've been chasing daydreams.
00:44I don't know why I was just like, immediately was like crush, crush.
00:48Weeks go by and we've had obviously phone calls, you know, I've watched him on his TikToks and
00:53we've communicated.
00:54Life's been pretty crazy right now, but despite my busy schedule, I wanted to make time to
00:58fly Ben out and meet him in person.
01:00The plan is to just get to know him.
01:02I just feel like it's time for bringing him to Utah.
01:05I get really nervous meeting people.
01:07Yeah.
01:08Especially guys.
01:09Like it's kind of like, if they bail, good.
01:12Good.
01:13It's relief.
01:14Yeah, like sweet.
01:15I'm like, oh, you're bailing.
01:17Like, I didn't think you'd come.
01:18So in my head, I'm like, eh, it'll be fine.
01:20And then you're like, yeah, I'm coming.
01:22And I was like, oh shit.
01:23It's honestly kind of odd to date after Dakota.
01:27I think since I haven't dated much, I haven't dated recently.
01:31You know, I've been, you know, was married for a lot of years and then had a relationship.
01:35So I don't have a lot of experience in that department.
01:38And so I'm kind of just keeping this like nothing serious, to be honest.
01:42Like, it's just, I'm barely getting back into it.
01:44All right.
01:45I want to know.
01:45I want to know.
01:46Yeah.
01:49Disgusting.
01:50No.
01:51No, it's actually so good.
01:52The timing is kind of awkward for Ben's visit because I just found out a podcast that I did
01:56is coming out with some big news.
01:58You're a big boy.
02:00I told Ben he knows about it, but let's see.
02:04Come ye saints and come ye sinners.
02:09Hallelujah.
02:13Listen, I'm the one you've been dreaming of.
02:17I got everything you could ever want.
02:21Try me in your sleep.
02:23I'll bring you to your knees.
02:25Baby, you're gonna believe.
02:35Listen, I'll bring you to your knees.
02:59Hi.
03:00Oh my God.
03:01Hi.
03:01I am excited and honestly honored to be on Call Her Daddy.
03:07I have a big announcement, and obviously she's one of the biggest podcasts in the world.
03:11I think let's just get right into it.
03:13You are on Call Her Daddy, so we can officially announce that you are this season's Bachelorette.
03:24How are you feeling?
03:26To be honest, surreal.
03:27It has not hit me right now in this moment.
03:30I'm just thinking about it, and it's like, it's not real.
03:34You can't really process it.
03:35It's just like so crazy, and like the Bachelorette, like saying that out loud is crazy.
03:40The Bachelorette, like that is huge.
03:42It's the crossover we didn't know we needed.
03:44MomTalk sensation and Mormon Wives star Taylor Frankie Paul is America's next Bachelorette.
03:50Will MomTalk survive you as the next Bachelorette?
03:54I think so.
03:55I think we'll survive this one.
03:57Taylor just got the Bachelorette.
03:59This is so exciting.
04:00You're going to meet new men.
04:02I couldn't be more excited.
04:03Like, I'm going to be posting watch parties.
04:06Like, I will be there.
04:07I think Taylor's going to thrive in the environment, truly.
04:09I love to see her yell at Dakota.
04:12So I would love to see her put other men in their place, too.
04:15It's about to be your moment.
04:16Everyone wants you to find your person.
04:18This is crazy.
04:18So thank you.
04:19So thank you.
04:20Ooh, I'm going to have you sleeping in my bed tonight.
04:26Bed tonight.
04:27Bed tonight.
04:29I'm going to have you sleeping in my bed tonight.
04:33Bed tonight.
04:34Bed tonight.
04:35Bed tonight.
04:36Bed tonight.
04:38Bed tonight.
04:40I'm curious about your religion.
04:44Really?
04:44I am.
04:45Because you said you grew up with, like, you're a Christian.
04:47Mm-hmm.
04:48I grew up, like, born, raised Christian.
04:51Went to church all the time, growing up, like, every Sunday.
04:54What do you think about Mormons?
04:56Like, what you know about them?
04:58People say that you guys are a cult.
05:01I am keeping a guard up with Ben because I have a history of, you know,
05:06falling maybe a little too fast or jumping into things too fast.
05:09So that was something I did not want to do again,
05:12especially before the bachelorette.
05:13We're just kind of, like, I don't know, hanging out.
05:16So, you know, I'm practicing getting out of my comfort zone
05:18into my uncomfort, and that's really all this is.
05:20I don't really see an issue.
05:22If anything, it's just, like, good practice.
05:25Well, sorry, my friend's going.
05:28Hello?
05:29Hi.
05:30Hi.
05:32It's me and Mikayla.
05:33We're all genuinely excited for Taylor becoming the bachelorette,
05:37and I thought it could be fun to give her a little rundown
05:40and just kind of give her that experience
05:41before she enters it herself without the sex.
05:44Yeah, yeah.
05:45You guys should, uh, come over.
05:46But one thing also.
05:50Well, I have a friend here, too.
05:53Wait, who?
05:55Ben is in town.
05:57He's, like, here, like, right now.
05:59Yeah, he's sitting right next to me,
06:01and you're on speaker, so be nice.
06:02Oh, amazing.
06:04Wait, so can we come meet him then?
06:06If you guys want...
06:07No, of course, yeah.
06:09Yeah, he said it's...
06:10No, please, yeah.
06:11He said please.
06:13I would love to hear a nice voice next to me.
06:15We would love to come meet Ben.
06:17Would it be just you two or, like, all of you guys?
06:21It's a whole MomTalk initiation, I think.
06:23Oh, okay, cool.
06:24I think it's, like, six of us or nine of us.
06:25Oh, yeah.
06:26Well, you guys are all welcome here.
06:28Come on.
06:29Come on.
06:30I do think it's very intimidating
06:32that MomTalk is going to be meeting Ben.
06:34I'm actually shocked he agreed to it
06:36because, I mean, he is a little bit more passive
06:39and a little bit shy,
06:41but I think it'll go well.
06:43I hope...
06:44I mean, I think...
06:45I hope so.
06:46Okay, we'll see you soon.
06:47Okay, love you.
06:48Bye.
06:49Love you.
06:49Bye.
06:50Do you like my sexy socks?
06:56I was just going to comment on your sexy socks.
07:00I was going to say, damn, those are sexy.
07:03Yeah.
07:04Yeah.
07:04They are.
07:21All right, we've got so, so many things happening
07:25within the next few weeks.
07:26We've got Press in New York, the GMAs, the Emmys,
07:30and then we also have a couple events.
07:32I think we start with green and see what we like.
07:36Yeah.
07:36Okay, amazing.
07:37Yeah, life has been absolutely insane
07:39since we've moved to L.A.
07:41Before Zach left a villa,
07:43we were able to find a home that we absolutely love,
07:46and so I couldn't be happier.
07:47Jenny, come upstairs.
07:51I'm here.
07:52Today, I am visiting Jen's home in L.A.
07:56I am so relieved that they finally found a place.
08:00Okay, let's stop the screaming.
08:04Should we hose him out back?
08:06Hello.
08:08Having Zach being away, to be honest, is a bit challenging.
08:12I'm not getting a lot of sleep,
08:14and holding down the fort by myself is kind of hard.
08:18Despite all the chaos, I truly am grateful.
08:21I wouldn't be living my dream without MomTalk,
08:24and so I'll forever be grateful for MomTalk.
08:27All right, let's take a look and see how we feel.
08:31I know, right?
08:33That one's pretty hot, Jen.
08:35I love that one.
08:37Main character?
08:38It is.
08:39Yeah, well, maybe not that.
08:40It's giving main characters.
08:41Yeah, well, we won't wear the thong.
08:43We can't with that.
08:44They're like, what happened to the super 90s?
08:46What is this?
08:47It's so crazy to see Jen from season one and Jen to now.
08:51Jen season one had a lot of anxiety about being this perfect Mormon.
08:57I personally would never promote a sex brand.
09:03I feel like now she's finding ways to express herself,
09:06finding more of who she is, her own identity, her own fashion,
09:10and not letting this anxiety of being the perfect Mormon identify her.
09:15Thank you, Jen.
09:16Hello.
09:17There's a library.
09:18Hi, Trudy.
09:19Hi.
09:20Hi.
09:21Hi.
09:22Tell me the tea.
09:25Report back.
09:26Who's there?
09:29Some girls from Alex Cooper's dating show just showed up today.
09:33Okay.
09:34And then just the staff.
09:36What happened?
09:38For the most part, yeah, there's some crazy stuff that went down.
09:41I've been asked not to tell you.
09:44Oh?
09:46Just tell me.
09:48Uh, no.
09:50Zach isn't giving us any specifics about what's happening.
09:53I don't know if it's because he's worried that we're going to tell the other women
09:56and stir up some shit, but it's feeling very tight-lipped right now.
10:01And I find that very interesting.
10:06Neon soul with a neon light.
10:10You're a neon soul in the dark blue light.
10:22You smell good?
10:23Do you put cologne on?
10:24No.
10:25No?
10:26Do I smell good?
10:27Yeah, I smell cologne.
10:30Yeah, you smell good.
10:31All right.
10:33I'm excited to meet Ben.
10:35I'm also interested to see who Taylor is kind of attracting.
10:39The whole situation's kind of weird to me, considering she's dating this guy.
10:43But also, she's said yes to the bachelorette, and she's going to go date, like, 30 men in
10:47less than a month.
10:48Hey.
10:48Hi, how are you?
10:50Oh, it's me.
10:50No, what's your name?
10:51I'm just going to be Taylor.
10:54Taylor.
10:56Oh, naughty.
10:57He's going to get his ass handed to him.
10:59Just kidding.
11:01Hello.
11:01Hello.
11:02What's up?
11:03Nice to meet you.
11:03Nice to meet you.
11:04I'm Ben.
11:04Nice to meet you.
11:06Benjamin.
11:06Hi, Ben.
11:07Benjamin, yeah.
11:08You answered the door already.
11:10He's pretty crazy, Benjamin.
11:11Who the hell is this guy?
11:13I mean, he's cute, but I just feel like he kind of looks similar to Dakota.
11:18Hello.
11:19What's up?
11:20This must be Ben.
11:21Oh, my gosh.
11:22I'm Ben.
11:22Hi.
11:23How are you going?
11:24Nice to meet you.
11:25I'm all going for a hug.
11:26Yeah, this is a lot for you to, like, walk into.
11:29I'll sit there until she comes.
11:29Yeah, there you go.
11:29There you go.
11:30We'll put her on the hot seat.
11:31I like feeling like I'm part of the group.
11:32You said Macy's sitting here.
11:33It's like Joseph Smith with all his wives.
11:36Jesse.
11:36That's exactly what I was thinking.
11:38Wait, wait.
11:39Do you know much about Mormonism?
11:40Do you know much about Mormonism?
11:41Okay.
11:42We got to entertain you this night.
11:43Wait, that's kind of refreshing.
11:44It is, yeah.
11:45He knows nothing.
11:46Like, that's like our whole life.
11:47I think it's important for Taylor to get a little practice before going into dating so
11:54many men.
11:55Hopefully, she can meet her dream man.
11:57I mean, what that will look like.
11:59Hopefully, somebody that's not Dakota.
12:03Hopefully, somebody who can calm her internal storm.
12:07That's what I hope for her.
12:09You know what I was saying to Jesse we should have done is, have you seen those videos where
12:12they're all doing a seance around the fire and they have the bedsheets?
12:15And when the boyfriend comes to the guy, and you're like, he's trying to scare him away.
12:20Like, this is what Mormons do.
12:22So, since Ben is here, we have to put him through a little interrogation, you know, because that
12:27is what MomTalk does best.
12:28I need to get these facts out of him.
12:30I need to know the answers.
12:31I need to know the dates.
12:32We need to get all this out of the way so that, like, there are no future issues.
12:37What do you do?
12:45I was a program manager for a tech company.
12:48Okay.
12:49And then I got laid off, like, a month ago.
12:52It's all good.
12:54I think that's definitely a red flag right now, especially because Taylor does have
12:58a pattern of attracting these guys who are using her for clout and money and fame and
13:03whatever.
13:04Dakota, for example.
13:05Oh, yeah.
13:06Have you dated a mom before?
13:08Oh, good mom.
13:09No.
13:10Do you want to hold a baby?
13:11Let's see how you do.
13:13Hey, child, am I holding?
13:16Oh.
13:18Very natural.
13:19Very good.
13:20Look, she said dada.
13:27What do you, what do you, what do you do when this guy and give us a line?
13:31Get out.
13:31Red flag.
13:32We're not doing weaponized incompetence.
13:34Get out.
13:35Okay, wait.
13:35I want to know how you feel about all of this.
13:38Like, being the bachelorette.
13:39It's not even, like, going on the bachelor.
13:41Like, she is the bachelorette.
13:44It's good for, for her and everything.
13:47It's not good for you.
13:50Are you a little nervous?
13:52No.
13:53What if she finds her husband?
13:54Where do you stand?
14:04Are you a little nervous?
14:06No.
14:06What if she finds her husband?
14:07Where do you stand?
14:09I mean, if that's how it happens.
14:11Give him a break.
14:12Let him settle in.
14:13I mean, if that, like, if she finds someone who she's happier with, then that's good.
14:17I have a lot of questions about a lot of the shit that Taylor does, and I don't think I'll
14:20ever understand.
14:22But with her going on the bachelorette, I feel like she's getting really close to this guy.
14:25I don't know what the intentions are there.
14:27I feel like it might just be her subconsciously sabotaging her happiness and her experiences
14:32and the bachelorette, but I don't know.
14:36Who knows with Taylor anymore?
14:38Speaking of the bachelorette, we were supposed to be doing our fantasy suite mock-up tonight.
14:42So we can still maybe, like, do a mock run-through and, like, you could be the contestant movie.
14:46Oh my gosh, hell yeah.
14:49All right, are we ready?
14:50We have the rose ceremony platter.
14:53Listen up.
14:54Okay, Taylor, this is how it's going to look on the night of, okay?
14:58You're going to...
14:59I'll turn it off.
15:00Dramatic pause.
15:04Make eye contact.
15:19I'm like, if I get divorced, it's on.
15:22Wait, that was kind of hot.
15:23Okay, you're good.
15:24And they have the names in there, right?
15:26So look down.
15:27Give us a dramatic pause.
15:28Okay.
15:30Taylor.
15:30Make eye contact or we're going home.
15:32I know, this is incredibly awkward.
15:35I can't do this.
15:36I can't do this.
15:37Yes, you can.
15:38You know, there's going to be 30 minutes.
15:40Just pretend they're women and that they're naked.
15:42I'm like...
15:43Um, Ben.
15:45Oh, my bad.
15:46Uh, let's see.
15:47Do I just sit here?
15:48Yeah, walk towards her.
15:49Like you're walking down the aisle.
15:51Ben, I chose to give you my first impression, Rose, because you felt like home.
15:56Mm-hmm.
15:57And I feel like we resonated on a lot.
15:59And so...
16:00He's kidding me?
16:01Will you accept this, Rose?
16:02Kiss.
16:02No, make out.
16:03Kiss.
16:05Kiss.
16:05Kiss.
16:06Kiss.
16:06Kiss.
16:07Woo!
16:08Wait, the hat cover was so cute.
16:11Oh, okay, let's go.
16:12MomTalk does think the whole Ben situation is complicated before The Bachelorette, and sure,
16:17it may be to them.
16:18But I had already told him that I was going out to do this.
16:21We kind of knew to, like, you know, guards up.
16:23I think it's a first step of, like, opening up to dating.
16:26It's really exciting.
16:27And I think it's fair to say that it's always messing with me.
16:29So it's like, are we shocked?
16:31Not really.
16:32I mean, if I was in a relationship, that would be a completely different story.
16:34But I'm not.
16:35I'm having fun.
16:37Oh, my gosh.
16:38I need to practice now.
16:39You did so good.
16:40You did do good.
16:41I feel like Taylor being The Bachelorette is a huge opportunity for her.
16:45We're all just hoping that she can go and represent herself in the best way to find that real and
16:50genuine, authentic love, but also represent MomTalk in the best way as well so that we can thrive
16:56as a business and MomTalk on top of it.
16:58Yeah, we need to...
16:59Now you're going to be less nervous night one, right?
17:02I was so distracted by this little rose ceremony that I look at my phone and I missed a call
17:06from Jacob, who's in London with the boys.
17:08So I need to hurry and call him back because I'm definitely excited to get the tea and see
17:12if the boys are behaving themselves.
17:14And I know that Jacob is a reliable source for this information.
17:17Well, I have to call Jacob.
17:19Let's see what he has to say.
17:21Oh, he's FaceTiming.
17:21Ooh.
17:22Hello.
17:23Hey, guys.
17:24What's going on?
17:25Spill the beans, Jacob.
17:27There's no tea.
17:27Like, have a good time, like, just getting some people.
17:31Don't lie.
17:32Literally, I can tell when you're lying.
17:34And you're a horrible liar.
17:36There's nothing going on.
17:37Did anyone else come?
17:38Because I said that girls were coming.
17:40Yeah, they were.
17:41Wait, so which one did Dakota sleep with?
17:46Dakota didn't sleep with anyone.
17:47Okay, which one did Dakota go back to the room with?
17:50You were, like, the worst liar.
17:52Like, Jacob, I know you too well.
17:54I know when you're, like, lying.
17:56This is the hard thing, is I don't think that you guys have healthy boundaries with your friends.
18:01Ew, Jacob, no.
18:02Who is this person?
18:04Did I call Jacob?
18:05I'm getting heated.
18:06Who did I call?
18:08Get accustomed with those single man boundaries, because you're about to be one.
18:13Did you just hang up on him?
18:15What the hell?
18:17Dude.
18:17What the hell?
18:19That was disgusting.
18:21I hate that for you.
18:22What have you guys been doing?
18:23Oh, we've just been yelling at Jacob on the phone.
18:26Why?
18:27You guys, he's drinking the Kool-Aid of Dakota and Jordan and Chase, and I'm like, get out
18:32of there.
18:33What is he doing?
18:34Kool-Aid.
18:35You guys.
18:35I told you that you guys, he was going to start to, like, chase.
18:39He's like, he's like, I'm not going to tell you what Dakota's doing.
18:43Mason wouldn't tell me shit.
18:45I'm definitely grateful that Chase did not go to the villa, because I feel like it's
18:49now causing issues in everyone's marriage.
18:51Just the fact that the guys are being so quiet about everything, and it's leading everyone
18:56to think that they're hiding something.
18:57I just feel sick to my stomach right now.
18:59I don't blame you.
19:00I would, too.
19:01Don't spiral.
19:02But I did, like, suck.
19:03But you don't know.
19:04You don't know.
19:05I don't know.
19:06I wouldn't spiral and, like, do something crazy before knowing.
19:09No, I'm not going to do anything crazy.
19:10I just texted him.
19:11I just texted him.
19:12No, but I didn't text him.
19:13Like, is there more that I should know?
19:14You're beating him.
19:16Oh, my God.
19:16You are.
19:17I do think I have every right to be worried about Mason in the villa, especially because
19:22Jordan is basically pushing Mason to have fun and let loose and, you know, have a great
19:28time.
19:29I want him to have fun.
19:30However, I just don't trust some of dad talk, especially Jordan, and I wouldn't put it past
19:35him to encourage bad behavior while in the villa.
19:38This is my boyfriend.
19:40I have every right to ask.
19:41I'm not insecure for asking questions.
19:43Also, he wouldn't be there if it wasn't for me, so I have every right to fucking ask.
19:46I can see you getting triggered, and don't take that to him immediately and scare him
19:50away without knowing details, is all I'm saying.
19:52If you get scared away by me asking questions, that's on him.
19:54I think it's just the fear of the unknown because there is something they're hiding.
19:58For me, I would be, if I'm in a relationship, I would also be, in a fresh one, I'd be
20:02scared.
20:20Hey, where are you at?
20:22Oh, I see you.
20:23Come on over.
20:24I didn't want to navigate with this wagon, so.
20:29It's so good to see you.
20:31Today, Demi and I are meeting up.
20:33We haven't seen a ton of each other since last season, and I think right now, Demi and I
20:39are friendly, and we're on the path to becoming friends again.
20:43We have talked about some issues off camera, but there are still some things that are unresolved.
20:48Kind of feels like the pressure of Demi coming back to MomTalk is on my shoulders.
20:51I think I was the most hurt by her out of everyone, so I think their way of thinking is
20:55like,
20:56if Jessie can forgive her, we all can.
20:58How did Sunday go?
20:59The bon voyage.
21:00It was so dramatic.
21:02It was so bad.
21:03Because Jordan.
21:04On a huge fight.
21:05And then he went to the villa, which I told him, I was like, I do kind of need some
21:08space.
21:08I said, I think it's a good time that you're going because I just kind of need a breather.
21:12And yeah, kind of like figure out what I want.
21:13Yeah.
21:13Have you talked to him at all in the villa?
21:15So he called me today, FaceTimed me.
21:18How was it?
21:19Oh, today's been eventful.
21:21Lisa asked me if I'd be willing to talk with Marciano, and I said, yeah.
21:24They went into Lisa's office, and it was just them two.
21:27And he said that Marciano was kind of like a dog with his tail tucked between his legs
21:30and was like, I'm just sorry.
21:32And Jordan's like, well, why now?
21:33Like, now that there's cameras out, you're sorry?
21:35Because you had almost a year to apologize to me.
21:36Yeah.
21:37Yeah.
21:37And he was like, you know, you're right.
21:38I've just been thinking about it.
21:39And he said he just kind of talked in circles a little bit.
21:41He was like, I am sorry.
21:42What I did was wrong.
21:43Yeah.
21:43I wanted to tell you this because Jordan goes, well, what happened with Demi?
21:47Like, now's the time to tell the truth.
21:48Yeah.
21:49And he goes, he doubled down.
21:51And he was like, we did kiss in the villa, and we said, I love you.
21:56Where did the I love you come from suddenly?
21:58This was in the villa, he said.
22:00What?
22:01Yeah.
22:01Demi, what's your reaction to these allegations made by Marciano?
22:12So then Jordan's like, this isn't working.
22:13You're not changing, and got up and left.
22:15Dig your grave, buddy.
22:16I think it gave him a lot of closure that he's like, okay, Jesse was telling the truth.
22:21Like, no more bombs are going to be dropped, which was probably freeing.
22:24Yeah.
22:25But yeah, like, along with healing, like, I've been going to therapy, and I've seen Gabby
22:28a little bit for NLP and stuff.
22:30Yeah.
22:30But I think it might be a good idea for us to meet with her.
22:32Like, close the, you know, gap on what went down with us.
22:35Like, it'll be a good way to, like, bring it back.
22:37I agree.
22:38You know.
22:38Gabby is an energy healer slash psychic, and she counsels both Demi and I.
22:43Um, it feels like something's coming up with you and Jordan.
22:47Like, I see you kind of having, like, walls up.
22:50Okay, we've been going to therapy, and the biggest thing is I do have walls up, and I
22:54say it exactly like that.
22:56Gabby's been so great for me, because since leaving the church, I don't have, like, a bishop
23:00to turn to.
23:01And Gabby fills in that, like, spiritual void that I'm missing.
23:05I'm hoping that it helps us and that it's good.
23:07We can just get insight, and it'll be good.
23:10So, I'm like, if you're open to it.
23:12Yes.
23:13The thing that's most confusing about my friendship with Demi is there was so much pain and so much
23:18that happened, but we also have a lot of fun together.
23:21But she also almost broke MomTalk last year, so I need to be more cautious and more careful
23:26of who I allow in my life.
23:27But I'm hoping that the session with Gabby can give me, you know, feeling that I can trust
23:31Demi and that her intentions are pure.
23:42I live in the summer, and we can take some of this summer.
23:46I live in summer.
23:47Yo!
23:48You look so good.
23:50Kate, tell me everything.
23:52It's a great detail.
23:54I'm out of the airport right now to pick up Chase and Mace.
23:57They're getting back from Vanderpump Villa, and to say I'm excited to hear all the tea
24:01would be an understatement.
24:08It's kind of zilch.
24:09It's kind of silent and crickets.
24:11I feel like they are hiding stuff, and they don't want us to know what happened.
24:15Lay it on me, boys.
24:16I need to hear it all.
24:17I'm, like, confused why you guys are, like, not wanting to say things, because it's literally
24:21going to come out in a couple months.
24:30London was a bonding experience for Dad Talk.
24:32I feel like we all came together.
24:34And right now, like, I'm looking out for my boy Dakota and making sure I have his best
24:37interest in mind.
24:38Dakota right now doesn't need to be faithful to anyone.
24:40He's not dating Taylor.
24:42I don't think there's any reason for him to be telling all the girls exactly who he's
24:46hooked up with.
24:46So right now, I think we all need to keep our lips shut and just get back home and let
24:50Taylor enjoy her life, because I think right now the worst thing for Taylor is Dakota, and
24:55I think the worst thing for Dakota is Taylor.
24:57And I think everyone can agree on that.
24:59We're back.
25:00Whoa.
25:01Hey.
25:02My naughty husband.
25:05Hi.
25:10Yeah, yeah.
25:12I was ready to come home after the first day, to be honest.
25:15Yeah.
25:19Do we just have a pack that we're not telling anyone anything that happened?
25:25First night, drank a lot.
25:28We're in the hot tub.
25:30We played.
25:32Truth or dare.
25:33But I mean, with respect to Mace, the entire time was a perfect blend of someone that would
25:39hang out with the crew.
25:40And then when it was time to go to bed, he was in bed.
25:47Zach was a dog.
25:49I fucking loved Zach.
25:50Zach's so cool.
25:51Zach, he was such a homie the whole time.
25:52Really?
25:54Dakota is literally one of the funniest people I've ever hung out with.
25:57He's one of my favorite people.
25:58My face was cramping from laughing.
26:00It's so funny.
26:01My cheeks.
26:02I've never experienced that side of that man, but.
26:04Oh, dude.
26:05I think Dakota, I'm going to, on record, I think he is one of the fucking best dudes.
26:09I would love to hang out with Dakota.
26:11All the time.
26:13I feel reassured with Chase telling me that Mason didn't do anything.
26:17I feel like it feels good to hear, but I'm definitely shocked to hear that the boys are
26:21just so infatuated by Dakota.
26:23I did not think that they were going to come back loving him.
26:26That's definitely a shocker to me.
26:28I don't know what occurred in the villa to make that happen, but I mean, to each their
26:33own.
26:34I don't know if it's the good idea to be on Team Dakota.
26:36Are you going to like start hanging out with Dakota now, though?
26:38Both of you?
26:39Yeah.
26:41Oh.
26:46How are you?
26:47How was it?
26:4819.
26:49Did you guys have fun?
26:50Uh, yeah.
26:53So much fun.
26:58Coming back from the villa, I'm excited to continue to work on my relationship.
27:02I think I did get somewhat of the closure with Marciano.
27:05I think that there was some peace in kind of burying the hatchet to the best that we could
27:10have.
27:10Well, this trip was about dad talk coming together.
27:14It wasn't about the drama.
27:16If you say that one more time, I swear to you, you won't be sleeping in my bed.
27:20I know a lot about the couch.
27:21I think that I could teach you a couple things.
27:25I know, obviously, you guys have your opinions about Chase, but it was like a really good
27:28time.
27:28I mean, um, Mason was fun to hang out with Mason and Chase were both fun and good.
27:35And they were good?
27:36They were good?
27:36What does that mean?
27:37I was good in bed?
27:37Oh.
27:39Okay, you can lift that.
27:41In terms of relationships and people being faithful, dad talk, for the four faithful dudes,
27:46four out of four.
27:46Yeah.
27:47For the girls...
27:49I wasn't faithful in the villa.
27:51Yeah, but...
27:52Mine was after.
27:53Okay, anyway, tell us what dad talk was up to in the villa.
27:57Everyone was trying to kiss me.
28:00And I said, no.
28:01And I was like, leave him alone.
28:03Leave him alone.
28:04Jesus, get off.
28:05And then Jordan kissed him.
28:08And then I said, no.
28:08I don't kiss him.
28:09It was the opposite.
28:10It was like...
28:11What was that?
28:12Lost drama.
28:15I'm trying to keep my mouth shut in this situation to avoid a potential outburst because
28:20I'm not only getting the ick really badly from both of them.
28:23I mean, Jordan always gives me the ick, but now Jacob is starting to in this situation.
28:28Together.
28:29Nice one, boys.
28:31I'm like, what the hell is going on here?
28:33I'm like, who's a stranger that Jordan brought back from London?
28:35Because it's not Jacob.
28:36There was this one girl there, and I could tell, like, when she walked in, Dakota was,
28:40like, eyes locked.
28:42What did she look like, Taylor?
28:42But Dakota will screw anything that has eyes.
28:45Yeah.
28:45And boobs.
28:48Jordan's like a little Mormon boy on his first night after getting married, you know?
28:51He's only going to last a few seconds with a secret like this.
28:54And right off the bat, someone dares Alyssa to come and kiss Dakota.
28:58And she comes up and kisses Dakota, and the girl flips her shit.
29:02What?
29:03Gets up and leaves.
29:05No, well, we were like, you just met him.
29:07Okay, then did Dakota do anything else?
29:09You went to bed and then went to bed.
29:10No.
29:11You guys are...
29:13What is happening?
29:15Dad talk!
29:18And then we all went to bed and happily ever after.
29:20Oh, my God.
29:21If you want to lie, be good at it.
29:23What did Dakota do?
29:24He slept with her.
29:25Unequivocally, yes.
29:29I just think in the place that Jessie and I have been in, that it's really important
29:34for me to put my relationship and my marriage and being honest with my wife first.
29:40Jordan, what the fuck, man?
29:42We had this pact.
29:43We were not supposed to tell our wives anything.
29:44And you went and blurbed everything to Jessie.
29:46Like, this is definitely going to get back to Taylor, like, any minute.
29:50So he had sex with her.
29:51Amazing.
29:52Has he moved on from Taylor?
29:53Did that help?
29:55Yeah.
29:57Am I shocked that Dakota slept with someone?
30:00Absolutely not.
30:01That man would sleep with a doorknob.
30:03If Taylor is questioning whether he slept with someone, she'll know.
30:06But I know that she gets really triggered by Dakota and everything that he does.
30:11And so I think that there is potential that she could freak out, crash out, and kind of
30:15lose her mind over it at the same time.
30:36Jen, you sleep good?
30:37I'm a little tired, not going to lie.
30:39I know.
30:41It's just the newborn stage.
30:42Four hours is the new six hours.
30:45There you go.
30:45And six hours is, like, the new eight hours.
30:49Jen and I's relationship is great.
30:51I'm so excited to share this experience with Jen because it is going to be very overwhelming,
30:57very daunting.
30:58But I'm going to be able to have a familiar face that I get to see every day in the
31:02dance
31:02studio.
31:02Are you guys going to church down here?
31:04We didn't go last week just because we were still moving in.
31:07We went grocery shopping last Sunday.
31:08Whoa.
31:09Whoa.
31:10Sinners.
31:11To be honest, I'm still struggling with my faith.
31:14So much has happened this year that I feel like I can't even keep up.
31:18I feel like there hasn't even been a moment or time for me to even just, like, really reflect
31:24and ask myself what I want, especially with having a career like mine.
31:28I do feel like I need to feel grounded, and I don't feel that right now.
31:34Broke this habit.
31:36I feel like church is different in different states.
31:41Yes.
31:42Yeah.
31:42In Utah.
31:43Like, completely different.
31:44I know.
31:44I want to start going again.
31:46I feel like I need that in my life.
31:49Going to church on Sunday was kind of my way to recharge and reflect.
31:55I do think that maybe it's possible to go back with a different perspective, different
32:00attitude, and somewhat of different beliefs.
32:03What can we do to help you feel ready?
32:06It's like, we need to have, like, a mom talk Bible study.
32:09Wait, that would be amazing.
32:10Wouldn't that be the best?
32:11Like, I feel like I still need to finish the Bible.
32:16Let's go fast.
32:18Go slow.
32:18Hit the gas.
32:19Here we go.
32:20Just sit back and join the show.
32:22We'll push a hundred or to go.
32:24Spinning out.
32:25Yeah.
32:25Spinning out.
32:27Spinning out.
32:28Yeah.
32:29Spinning out.
32:33If you would have told me six months ago when you were channeling mine and Demi's fight
32:37that we would be doing this, like, I wouldn't have believed you.
32:39What do you feel like your intentions are, like, going into this session?
32:43I want peace.
32:43I don't want to fight.
32:45So I'm, like, happy we're good.
32:47Yeah.
32:47But I still, obviously, like, I'm nervous.
32:49I'm scared to, like, let her in.
32:51I feel like Gabby's here to kind of be, like, a neutral third-party mediator for Demi and
32:55I.
32:56And she's also a bullshit detector.
32:57And she will tell us if one of us is lying or is on the wrong page.
33:01Oh, shit.
33:02Some of this burnt.
33:03Is that a sign?
33:03It was a sign or was it just...
33:05Or was it me being dumb?
33:07That's funny.
33:08I'm, like, our friendship's burning.
33:10Yeah.
33:11Oh, is she here?
33:12Yeah.
33:13I'll go get it.
33:14Live here.
33:15Hi.
33:16Come to my house.
33:17Hello.
33:18Oh, you brought a swig.
33:19It looks so good in here.
33:21Oh, you haven't seen it since we redid it.
33:23No, I literally almost got lost coming here.
33:25No way.
33:26It's not long, apparently.
33:27Yeah, that's funny because you live four minutes away.
33:29I know.
33:29I cannot believe it.
33:29How have you been?
33:30Good.
33:31Much better.
33:31I was not good.
33:32I've genuinely been, like, focusing on what I can control.
33:36Letting go of the rest.
33:37Yeah.
33:37Leaving the show was, like, the ultimate test of, like, letting go.
33:41Really?
33:41But you didn't for a while.
33:42No, I had to know.
33:43Like, Brett was driving by.
33:45No, literally.
33:45I'm, like, driving by.
33:46Who's filming?
33:47What's going on?
33:47We should look up the footage, too, to see if it was, like, really him.
33:50Like, are you sure?
33:50No, it was him.
33:51Is it?
33:51There is.
33:52Oh, wait.
33:53That was for sure him.
33:54I literally, like, had a psychotic break.
33:56I'm sure.
33:56I get that.
33:57It was insane.
33:58The fact that Demi is, like, admitting that, you know, she sent Brett to drive by the house is kind
34:04of funny and shocking.
34:05I thought for sure she would deny that because it's embarrassing.
34:08Maybe it's a good sign that she can be honest.
34:10To get started, I want to hear a little bit more about where you guys are at.
34:16We worked it out, like, as a group.
34:17Like, all of MomTalk.
34:18I just want to make sure that jumping back into the friendship, we're not just, like, okay, we're all good.
34:22And then it festers.
34:23This is what it feels like.
34:24It feels like things have been touched on, but not really.
34:27Like, does that feel true to your guys' conversations?
34:29Yeah.
34:29Yeah.
34:30Trust is a huge thing.
34:32And I do feel like there's a level to which I'm scared to, like, fully trust you.
34:37What's the reason for that?
34:39Like, I mean, I don't know exactly what to tie it to, but how you would, like, comment about me
34:44online.
34:45Not justifying it, but, like, I'm not one to, like, go do those things if everything's fine.
34:50I feel like it was, like, trigger points of, like, I didn't feel like you had my back.
34:54Like, you weren't being a real friend to me.
34:56There were so many things that were said online that I'm, like, either that's not true or it was spun,
35:01like, discrediting the Marciano situation.
35:03Like, I wasn't online talking about you having an affair.
35:06But the whole narrative around me, like, was awful.
35:12It was, like, all negative with the Taylor situation, with the Marciano stuff, with me potentially leaving the show, because
35:19that was, like, very hurtful.
35:20Especially to get it from everyone, but, like, specifically you.
35:26This Marciano thing, the pattern that I'm feeling just 100%, and you can tell me if I'm wrong, feels like
35:32maybe emotional cheating.
35:37Genuinely, truly, there were no romantic feelings that I felt towards this person.
35:43There's been multiple situations in the past where it was that, like, I felt like I was developing feelings.
35:47In this situation, it was not that.
35:49It wasn't that I was, like, attracted to him.
35:52I wasn't even physically attracted to him.
35:56Gabby's telling us that she feels like there was emotional cheating between Demi and Marciano, which Demi is now firmly
36:01denying.
36:02This is upsetting to me because Demi admitted to me off-camera that she emotionally cheated with Marciano.
36:07She admitted that she took things way too far.
36:10So the fact that she's denying it here right now means she can't be authentic.
36:13She can't be honest, both off and on camera.
36:16So it worries me that if we bring her back into MomTalk and we allow her back into this group,
36:20it's going to destroy MomTalk as a whole.
36:22You said there were multiple situations in the past where you developed feelings outside of your relationship.
36:29Can you elaborate on that?
36:34My head is, like, spinning a little bit.
36:36For your guys' friendship going forward, you've got to get to, like, the root of the patterns.
36:41Because right now, when I'm feeling into it, it's, like, I don't feel like this game is going to end.
36:49Where do you go when the devil puts a price upon your head?
36:53What do you see when you're stepping even closer to the end?
36:58Oh, nice.
36:58Thank you so much.
37:00I'm going to sit ahead.
37:01Yeah, yeah, you can sit.
37:02You want to sit that far away from me?
37:03Is this all of us?
37:04Tonight, Dad Talk is going to dinner.
37:06We all became really close at the villa, and we had a great time.
37:10Zach's back in L.A., so he will not be joining us.
37:12But I'm a little bit anxious because I kind of spilled the beans about Dakota having sex to Macy, Jesse,
37:20and Mikayla.
37:21Do you guys still feel jet-lagged?
37:22Bro, I actually feel like I was jet-lagged the whole time we were there.
37:25I still can't tell how I feel.
37:28Have you slept?
37:30I don't know.
37:30Well, when you get that much action.
37:32Yeah.
37:34Oh, really?
37:35No way.
37:35Oh, my God.
37:36My guys.
37:37You must have been good in the sack for her to want to DM you.
37:40Wham emoji, purple pickle, and the water.
37:44Ask Jimmy how to sex, bro.
37:45She'll tell you.
37:46She'll do that.
37:46Put the wet emoji bunch.
37:48Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:49You guys been all right with all your girlies after that?
37:52You guys.
37:53Jacob and I showed up.
37:55It was like, we don't care.
37:56We don't care.
37:57What happened?
37:58Like, asking every question left and right.
38:00They wanted it so fast.
38:01They didn't even say hi or anything.
38:04They're like, what the fuck?
38:05So what happened?
38:07Yeah, the conversation, like, got heated.
38:09Just because, like.
38:10Because he was like, he said, he's like, I like Dakota.
38:13I like Dakota.
38:13Oh, hell yeah.
38:14And Macy was like, we're getting divorced.
38:18Macy, you're always good for me to get here at the point.
38:20I'm like, I don't need to tell you because it's going to go right to Taylor.
38:22You guys don't need to know.
38:23But yeah, I was definitely sleeping on the couch for a night or two.
38:26So does Taylor know about the villa?
38:31I don't know.
38:33Dude, you told your wife he was hooking up with a bunch of people, like, the second you
38:37got out of the villa.
38:40No, it was while I was on the villa.
38:45So Jordan called me today.
38:46He started FaceTiming me.
38:47So he said that last night, he's like, things got crazy.
38:51Dakota did, like, a four-way kiss with, like, three girls.
38:55And then.
38:55Taylor's going to lose it.
38:58Hooking up with a bunch of people?
39:00Dude, yeah, that's crazy, Jordan.
39:01I said, I said he had a, I said he had a four-way kiss because he's my guy.
39:05Dude, but my guy also gets murdered, dude, so that's not my guy.
39:11Hey, I want to have the type of relationship where I can tell my wife anything.
39:15Wait, what?
39:17I feel betrayed by Jordan in this moment, I think, just because Jordan, of all people,
39:21knows kind of, like, my situation probably better than most and just kind of, like,
39:26how Taylor is and just, like, what that typically looks like for me on my end.
39:30We can't tell you shit because you will tell her.
39:33100%.
39:33And she does every time.
39:35Jesse told me that Taylor's guy was coming in town, and I didn't tell him because I
39:39didn't want him to freak the fuck out.
39:40Oh, so you only tell him when it's against his ass.
39:43That's fucking crazy, bro.
39:44That's not your boy.
39:45That's crazy.
39:46You think I would have told you about Jesse?
39:48Fucking.
39:48Sorry.
39:49Boom, bro, I would have told you.
39:50I get that.
39:50If you actually care about my situation, dude, at all.
39:54A heads up would help you?
39:55Absolutely.
39:56This is crazy, but I'm so sorry.
39:57You need to fucking say sorry.
39:59That was fucked.
40:00And take ownership for your shit.
40:02Oh, how the fucking turntables.
40:03That's fucking crazy.
40:04Take ownership.
40:05Take ownership right now.
40:06That's what I did.
40:07No, take ownership.
40:08I didn't mean to disrespect you.
40:09I thought, where's Brett?
40:10You did.
40:11I'm sorry for disrespecting you.
40:12Okay.
40:12I didn't mean to do that, and I'm sorry.
40:14Now get the fuck out of here.
40:14All right.
40:15I'm sorry.
40:15Didn't mean to do that.
40:16This feels awesome, by the way.
40:17Full circle.
40:18Now fucking do it.
40:18Fucking on up.
40:19I just want the context of something super important.
40:22I want to be seen.
40:23You know what I'm saying?
40:24I mean that.
40:25I'm getting real wordy over here.
40:26Getting real wordy to say I'm fucking sorry.
40:31All I'm trying to do right now is save my marriage at this point.
40:33That's it.
40:34Don't put his shit out there, though.
40:35I'm trying to explain where it's coming from.
40:37I am sorry.
40:37Don't say a fucking thing.
40:40If you want to keep anything locked at all, don't tell his ass.
40:44Because he owes his wife to tell him immediately on the phone, so he apparently isn't in the
40:48doghouse anymore.
40:49We told her.
40:49I said, she doesn't listen, and you know that.
40:52I know she doesn't.
40:52That's why I'm saying that feels like a jab at me, bro.
40:55Like, I'm not doing it for that.
40:56Like, if you're my friend.
40:57Dude, this is crazy.
40:58If you're my friend, that's why it feels so double.
41:00And then you don't tell me.
41:02I don't mean to tell you.
41:03Because she told me not to tell you.
41:05She said, hey, I want to have the type of relationship with this.
41:07I don't like that.
41:07That's where I was like, so you're mad at me for that or mad at her for that?
41:10I'm mad at you for that because you're my friend.
41:12You claim you're my friend.
41:13Big ownership, dude.
41:14Jordan was the one leading the conversations about what we should and shouldn't say.
41:19And we were going to, you know, handle this the right way.
41:22Because the girls will spin it out of control.
41:25And then for him to be the one to tell Jesse, fucking pissed me off.
41:28I just said, I'm sorry.
41:30Ownership.
41:31That's your whole fucking theme.
41:32I'm sorry.
41:32You're just meeting a dead horse.
41:33Stop fucking making up excuses afterwards.
41:35Don't say sorry to do some bullshit.
41:37I'm just telling you the content.
41:38This is why your wife's sleeping in a Hyatt every fucking two weeks.
41:50This is why your wife's sleeping in a Hyatt every fucking two weeks.
41:56This is exactly why no one likes Chase.
41:58He always shoots below the belt and says things that are so outrageous.
42:03I stand by the fact that I'm going to tell my wife everything that's going on.
42:07Don't ever ask questions about any of us then.
42:09I'm not going out sharing your shit.
42:11I think everything I've shared with you almost is like bit me in the ass.
42:15No one's being asked to lie to their wives.
42:17I would never advocate for you to lie for Dakota.
42:20That's not what we're saying here.
42:21Consider the fucking timing.
42:22Is that too much to fucking ask?
42:24Hey, good.
42:25Yeah, that's what I was trying to do.
42:27As long as production loved it, dude, you'd tell anything about anyone here.
42:30Yep.
42:30I didn't tell him about the thing that she asked me not to tell him.
42:33One for one, dude.
42:34Let's fucking keep that going.
42:35I'm trying to start.
42:35I was trying to start.
42:36Fucking, let's do it.
42:37Jesus Christ.
42:38We're in season four.
42:39We're starting this now?
42:40Fucking hell.
42:41Jesus Christ.
42:42I'm trying now.
42:43Welcome to your second season.
42:44All right.
42:44Yeah.
42:45No.
42:45Awesome.
42:46And that's why.
42:47We'll see if you get a fixed season or a longer marriage.
42:52All right.
42:52Give me my cheesecake.
42:53Whatever.
42:54What is this called?
42:54Butter?
42:55Butter.
42:56Some shit.
42:57Let me eat this.
42:57Some fucking good shit.
43:01I get that Dakota's upset and I totally understand why, but Chase over here acting like a tough
43:05guy is really pissing me off.
43:07The fact that he thinks he's that guy, he's just not that person.
43:10This is between Dakota and I and I don't care about his two cents.
43:13I feel like I'm put between a rock and a hard place.
43:15This took a turn, but it did take a little turn.
43:18I thought this was going to loosen it up a little bit.
43:20Do you feel like you can truly trust Jordan with your secrets?
43:28No.
43:29I get where he's coming from.
43:31I understand.
43:32I don't think he's doing it to be vile.
43:34I think he's just hurt.
43:35And I think he's just trying to find any way that he can relate or have a relationship with
43:40Jesse.
43:41But it's unfortunate because I think it affects our friendship too.
43:47I'm sorry.
43:49Genuinely.
43:50My intention was not to hurt you.
43:52Is that good?
43:54So I think we've spoken our piece on that whole thing, right?
43:56Yeah.
43:57I have.
43:57Let's move on.
43:58Move on.
44:20Hey.
44:21Oh, hey.
44:23What's up?
44:24Just about to go to the gym.
44:25Nice.
44:26I'm trying to decide what I should do for my reunion here because I got my dress.
44:31The reunion's next week.
44:32And I'm nervous for the reunion because doing this once before, it just makes things relevant
44:38again.
44:39You're talking about old wounds.
44:40You hash everything out, but it brings it to the surface.
44:42So I'm a little nervous for me and Jordan just because we're revisiting all of that darkness
44:47from last season.
44:48I'm trying to decide if I should do like a half updo like this because it's like a little
44:52more formal.
44:53I love your hair down.
44:54I mean, it would be a more formal updo.
44:55It wouldn't be a claw clip.
44:57But you know what I mean?
44:58Yeah.
44:58Or do we think I should wear it down?
45:01I can't decide.
45:02I like it both ways.
45:04Hello?
45:06Jesse?
45:07The reunion is coming up, but I procrastinated and Jesse is helping me find my dress in
45:14her closet.
45:15If you're naked, please put clothes on.
45:17Do you have pants on?
45:18Um, yes, I do actually.
45:20How are you?
45:21I've never been here.
45:22You haven't?
45:23This is bigger than my house.
45:25Oh, it keeps going.
45:26Yeah.
45:27It's crazy.
45:27Have you really never been in here?
45:28No.
45:28I've never been in here.
45:29I pulled dresses for you.
45:30I have all your dresses ready.
45:32You're so nice.
45:33Thank you for doing that.
45:34You're welcome.
45:34No, I know you've had a lot.
45:35I probably would have showed up in this.
45:36I'm actually really happy you're here.
45:38Um, you know, obviously it was really awkward when we left the Bon Voyage party.
45:44When we left, Jesse and I had a discussion, like about having like the type of relationship
45:49where like we can tell each other everything and have those things that are told to us.
45:54Like we're the end of that.
45:55Like that's it.
45:55Yeah.
45:56Because it's super important.
45:57What are you saying?
45:58Why are you coming to me?
45:59So I'm like kind of confused what this is at all.
46:01And when we were at Villa, she had told me about, at the time it was this guy that was
46:06flying out to see you.
46:07Yeah.
46:07And she's like, hey, like you, you had to promise me you're not going to tell Dakota.
46:10And it was really hard, honestly, but I didn't tell him.
46:14Did he sleep with someone?
46:15No.
46:16No?
46:17I'm not answering anything to do with any of that.
46:19Okay.
46:19Just say I'm not answering.
46:20But you, because you already said no.
46:22So is that, that's.
46:23I cannot confirm or deny anything.
46:25But you just said no.
46:26I can't confirm or deny anything.
46:27But you just did.
46:28Hey, you don't want to know.
46:29No, I'm not, I'm not talking about this.
46:30We were not going to tell Taylor about Dakota, but I do think she deserves to know if she's
46:34wondering and she's asking me straight to my face and I can't lie to her.
46:39If you want to know, I will tell you.
46:41I do.
46:43Right now.
46:44The point of this.
46:46Is it okay if I say something?
46:47I'm just going to call someone else.
46:48I just would prefer you to call someone else.
46:50Okay.
46:50I'm sorry.
46:50He did.
46:56My issue with Dakota is that he, before he leaves, is claiming to be like, I love you,
47:03Taylor, no matter what, our family, I'm a good guy, yada, yada, yada.
47:06But then you go out and do that.
47:07I don't think I'd be going out of the country to have a one night stand while I'm saying those
47:13things.
47:13It doesn't make sense to me.
47:14Your words are just lies.
47:16I'm sorry.
47:17I know.
47:18I know it's surprising.
47:19Like, he probably has fucked everyone.
47:20No, I really don't think he has.
47:22I really think that was the first.
47:24It feels like Taylor's just been stuck in this toxic cycle with Dakota and no matter what
47:28happens, she can't get out of it.
47:30And as the leader of MomTalk, it does put MomTalk in a weird situation because there is
47:34constant turmoil and drama in her life and it does affect the group as a whole.
47:39I'm sorry.
47:39I'm so sorry.
47:40It's okay.
47:42It hurts.
47:43It hurts.
47:44I'm sorry, Taylor.
47:46And he's like, you never loved me.
47:48And I guess I did.
47:49I assume for three years.
48:05Thanks for setting this up, dude.
48:06Yeah.
48:07Is it true that you heard that I was like DMing you in a way that like maybe seemed like
48:13I was flirting?
48:14Taylor, stop.
48:15No, I just want to know.
48:16Taylor, I just want to know why.
48:18What?
48:19Hello?
48:21Hello?
48:22How are you feeling about the reunion?
48:23You have a group of people that are constantly trying to poke holes in your story.
48:28Your stories don't add up because you keep changing them.
48:30You can't look at yourself in the mirror.
48:32I already have.
48:33Take accountability.
48:34What do you think I've done?
48:34Oh, you're not doing it.
48:35Clearly you're not.
48:36You're deflecting stuff.
48:37I'd rather fucking something happen at this point because it's excruciating and it's ruining
48:43my reputation.
48:44What do you mean she's not here?
48:50What do you know about me?
48:54Not a lie yet, split to see.
48:56You've been talking, talking, talking, but I won't get it.
48:59You've been shooting your shot and then dropping it.
49:01I'm safe, yes, I know I'm the real one.
49:03Well, I pray you will never be the day one.
49:05I'm okay, I don't need you to say much.
49:07Stay away, I don't need you to say much.
49:12Stay away, I don't need you to say much.
49:16Stay away, I don't need you to say much.