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00:16The book Yoni Shakti I wrote between 2010 and 2012 and Yoni Shakti is a woman's guide
00:26to power and freedom through yoga and tantra it's about bringing people back into a respectful
00:34reconnection with the rhythms of earth and their vitality of life I was interested to see who else
00:43is connecting to these practices and that is how I found out about the school in Denmark and I was
00:51like that is interesting so I put a two-line reference almost like a footnote and I didn't
00:59think any more about it until 2020 when I was contacted by a reader and she expressed horror
01:08because she had been studying at that school and knew about the terrible things that had happened
01:15and then from that I connected with other people who'd had similar experiences so they all were
01:21saying the same kind of thing so I found their website and this little Danish yoga studio was
01:31actually part of this Atman International Federation there are members across the world and when you
01:40look on each one each one has got a different name in Romania it's called Lisa in Sweden it's also
01:48called
01:48Nata yoga so when you get to England Tara so you wouldn't know that's anything to do with it and
01:56at
01:56this point I was like oh my god it's everywhere it was my life okay this is 10 years ago
02:07for me but
02:08there are still women going through this now they claim that it was consensual and frame me as a liar
02:18I wanted to move to kind of leave from this position I was and he grabbed both my wrists and
02:23put them
02:24on the bed like be quiet this felt like I've got to get out of here I couldn't take any
02:29more at that
02:29point he is portrayed as sexually obsessed this is what we see from the files the testimony of Ashley
02:40he's the missing piece that I needed just watch them squirt it started and ended with him
03:14July 2019 when I left Paris I guess I knew that there was sexual abuse happening but I didn't at
03:23that point piece together trafficking but I was just on this kind of constant reading rampage becoming
03:31really kind of obsessed with understanding it more and more the school was still operating everything
03:38was fine and I just knew that every single day more and more women were going through those same
03:43experiences and being sent to Paris so I actually got in contact with me and basically revealed why
03:52she had left the school I was just up the fuck is going on so I confronted the main coordinators
04:02from
04:02Sweden and they're just like it's all lies I think he sort of thought he could make some change from
04:10within and that perhaps people would understand and they could break free from Bivalaru and continue all
04:15the good parts of the school and he wasn't able to recognize that Bivalaru was the school the response
04:22was our belief is so strong that we will do whatever it takes and we will support him no matter
04:28what and in
04:29that moment I just felt like this this shudder and this coldness come over me just thinking like
04:34that's the sort of indoctrination that leads people to drink kool-aid that's the Jonestown's sort of
04:40ideology of you're so aligned with this individual that you would do whatever it takes at whatever cost to
04:49protect him and I just got so scared I thought holy shit these they're gone so it was around May
05:012020 that I first spoke out hi everyone I'm Ashley and I run the cult awareness page this is the
05:07first
05:08story there was a lot of fear of being judged or misunderstood at the time there was so much fear
05:13in me and I was still trying to understand what had happened and I still wasn't sure where I sat
05:17and
05:17how I felt about it and I was kind of oscillating between being really certain that something was
05:22wrong and that I'd left a cult and then also at other times wondering if I was wrong to leave
05:28and
05:29that perhaps I'd fallen off a spiritual path but I just kind of had this need that I needed I
05:34just
05:34needed to say something ask the teachers actually ask them are you sending women to be initiated by
05:40the Guru is that happening just watch them squirm I thought that I would feel really silly if I just
05:46went to my local police station and said hey I had this experience in France can you help me I
05:52just
05:52felt really silly I didn't know where to go so when I first heard about the experience of the people
06:05in
06:05the first school in Scandinavia they put me in touch with Ashley Ashley Freckleton and what she sent me I've
06:13never forgotten it I actually got it received it here I remember it coming through on the email and it
06:17was her testimony the photo was taken the night before I was trafficked to a foreign country for
06:27want of a better of a word a cult people don't show up at yoga classes because you know they
06:32want to do
06:33bad in the world they're like looking for self-improvement to be a better human so that's why she's there
06:39and
06:39there she is in the middle of London looking like really vibrant young woman who's totally destroyed
06:44by this experience it's just wickedness to do that isn't it Uma wanted to publish my testimony anonymously
06:53in the book that was the first time I felt like she gave a voice sort of on a larger
06:59scale but then
07:00they came after her in April of 2021 I got a letter of claim a legal letter it basically says
07:10that all
07:10the allegations I've made are false defamatory severe and it's going to cause their client loss
07:16of potential students serious financial losses is their main concern initially I think I felt disbelief
07:26and then I was just terrified they want me to tell them the identity and whereabouts of all the
07:34parties who provided me with the information for you to make the defamatory allegations they want to go
07:39after the survivors that's what this is about isn't it the whole process ended up with me going to court
07:46three times and it took about two years to complete and in the end the judge decided that they had
07:56been
07:57out of time and that there were so many procedural errors that I won the call to get it thrown
08:02out of
08:03court it couldn't go any further it was a disaster financially disastrous yeah but I kept thinking you
08:11know the stress I was under was nothing compared to the deep suffering that those young women had gone
08:19through what I felt was a kind of sickening sense that these really essentially good teachings had been
08:30twisted up to serve the greed for power of the person who was in charge who was teaching them
08:53people didn't really speak about him as a human being more of a spiritual being
09:00we were really encouraged to look at him as somebody who was enlightened and elevated and whatever he
09:08taught was the truth almost as if he was Jesus
09:16I knew that the school had originated in Romania and I was told don't bother looking him up because
09:24there's this long history with Romania and religious persecution and he started teaching yoga when it was
09:32illegal and he's been persecuted and demonized by the Romanian authorities and that's all that you'll find so
09:41don't bother this is a neighborhood in the outskirts of Bucharest it's called Ferentard and this is known because the
09:59houses that are used as
10:00as ashrams by the group Misa most of them were around the streets
10:11you can see that there are no windows or very small windows very high fences many of them have very
10:18large satellite antennas and in 2004 police got information that there was much more going on inside these houses
10:29than some normal yoga classes than some normal yoga classes
10:35the police had received a lot of complaints coming from parents who told the authorities that their children were missing
10:59because they had joined this movement Misa
11:02because they had joined this movement Misa
11:04my exact împrejarea că copiilor aderaseră la o mișcare aderaseră la un cult și ajunsese să se rupă din de
11:15familia din nucleu fără o explicație foarte clară
11:21besides the fact that a lot of minors were believed to live in those ashrams the police told the media
11:28that they had information that there might be human trafficking going on that there might be organized crime activities
11:38F – Bineînțeles că am avut niște surprize cu ampătră pagan Hoover
11:58Bineînțeles că am avut niște surprize după ce am împătrunască
12:02I find some boys who are well working at the hall, some...
12:10Let's go here.
12:11Let's go here.
12:12Let's go here, let's go here.
12:13Let's go here.
12:14Let's go here.
12:15At any question I was asked,
12:19they were opposed to me.
12:24One of them were scared,
12:26they were angry.
12:28They didn't feel free.
12:32They remained, I can say,
12:35really scared.
12:40There were, I think,
12:41about twenty-four,
12:44maybe fifteen,
12:45but not all,
12:46they had in the head
12:47an image of the Bivolar.
13:05I was born in Transylvania,
13:07which I think is a very captivating place and magical place.
13:14Yoga entered through the contact with my mom,
13:19which was always a search for spirituality.
13:23It was a world more attractive,
13:26which we didn't have access to before,
13:29because it was communism,
13:31it was a more open mentality,
13:34we didn't have access to such information.
13:39After all the communism period,
13:42people,
13:43sometimes,
13:43people,
13:43sometimes,
13:44they need to be agitated,
13:46to believe,
13:47and to deposit all hope and illusion
13:51in someone else.
13:57These courses,
13:58I think,
13:58when I had 11-12 years old,
14:01and I said,
14:02of course,
14:02that I could participate too.
14:04I was curious.
14:07It was quite captivating to discover that there is a spiritual guru
14:12that created this yoga school,
14:15that there is someone who has answers
14:18to all our questions.
14:23The fact that I found myself there,
14:25along the Maia Rele Maestro,
14:28you can see,
14:29that it was something sacred to receive
14:30something so intimate.
14:36So,
14:37girls,
14:37they saw the Greek
14:39as the supreme shiva,
14:42the masculine masculine symbol,
14:44the masculine symbol.
14:45Do you see that,
14:46in my vision,
14:47as a child of 15 years old,
14:49I started to see myself,
14:50as a god,
14:52as a god.
15:00I was talking to myself,
15:01I was talking to myself,
15:01until we started the investigation,
15:04and it was very much
15:06predated and implemented
15:09this vision
15:11that those who are out there
15:12do evil,
15:13we want evil,
15:15that there is a conspiracy,
15:17so we are spiritual.
15:21right after the raids that were taking place MISA started building up a defense and organizing
15:28protests and then exactly when all the heat was going on and all eyes were on MISA
15:38Gregoriami Volaru decided to appear on this very popular TV show Mario Stucca just a few days after
15:44the raids that happened
15:53Good evening. Good evening. I would like to tell you from the beginning that I'm not the leader of MISA,
16:02but the mentor of these movements.
16:05What do you want to tell the Guru?
16:07I don't want to tell the Guru, except for the press and for those who follow me to criticize me.
16:14I have always considered that I am the professor of yoga Gregoriami Volaru.
16:20Did you have sex with one of the sympathizers of MISA, sympathizers of MISA?
16:25So, I don't do sex with anyone at all. Because having sex is something degrading.
16:30Did you have sex with one of the sympathizers of MISA?
16:33So, if I made love, I made love.
16:37I made love.
16:38I made love.
16:38Not the degradation of sexuality.
16:40But the romantic relationships, intimate relationships, as we all know.
16:45Based on love, respect, reciprocity.
16:51And the beginning of my life was happening in the beginning of the 2000s.
16:59I was a virgin.
17:02So, I don't want to give a lot of details about my initials, but it wasn't very special.
17:10I didn't feel any pleasure.
17:12No, no.
17:14I don't want to give back to it.
17:16I was a virgin.
17:16I kept telling you that my heart was full of blood.
17:17But it didn't get hurt.
17:19I kept telling you that at some point, I lost touch.
17:29I kept telling you that when I got tears.
17:39Everything is resonant, and God is the supreme creator of everything that exists,
17:47and the spirit, through the yoga practice, must get to know it more deeply,
17:52to reach the state of consciousness.
17:56He got a common charisma.
17:59The charisma was not so physical, because he is not a person,
18:04and he was not a person.
18:07It was the fact that we would constantly transfigure him
18:10and put him on a constant pedestal.
18:15Well, I have to do this for all those who are following me,
18:20for a minute, if I can create a state for those who are open,
18:26to accept, with happiness, my branching into infinite spheres of power
18:32and benefit from the macrocosmos.
18:36So, I have to start now.
18:38He said that he is going to transmit a state of absolute happiness
18:43to the viewers who are open to believing in his philosophy.
19:07You would start to wonder if that man is okay from a mental point of view.
19:20I have been involved in fighting against types of movement and cults for many years.
19:28So, that's how I became to be interested in MISA.
19:36I wanted to understand the motive of parody, what was going on with MISA in France.
19:42And I started to read and slowly investigate.
19:46It was something very well organized and always the same.
19:52So, they organize a kind of strategy
19:56where they ask women from everywhere around the world, except from France,
20:02to come in France for initiation, to improve their personal development and so on.
20:10After that, they go back to the origin country.
20:14And when you are a thousand kilometers, what can you do? Just nothing.
20:22It's difficult to accept that somebody is completely under the control of someone else.
20:29First of all, you absolutely need to have testimonies from the victims.
20:34And it was a kind of protection for Bivolari to not have compliance influence from French victims.
20:41I had reported to the Royal Charity Commission in the UK.
20:45Nothing had come of that.
20:47Like, I put something on Crimestoppers International,
20:50and I followed that up maybe once or twice, and it never came to fruition.
20:56No one ever got back to me. No one ever seemed to want to take my testimony.
20:59You ready?
21:02I put some alerts on my computers.
21:06Paris, Omania, Guru, Cult.
21:10And I quickly found this article in Australian newspapers.
21:17Paris, Omania, Guru, Cult.
21:20The testimony of Ashley.
21:24Hello, Ashley.
21:26Allow me to introduce myself.
21:30It actually is, yeah, it's pretty wild because from where I was sitting at that point,
21:34he was just some random guy in France.
21:37And yet, he's the missing piece that I needed to connect in with the foreign police.
21:43So I was in touch with Ashley and transmitted this testimony to the department of police
21:50in charge of what is going on in terms of cults in France.
22:05We knew there were difficulties with this movement.
22:08But before 2021, in reality, we wouldn't start an investigation on this movement.
22:20The first crucial step is the audit of the victims.
22:24Kaimard, which is a very specialized anti-cult unit,
22:29did reach out and said that they wanted to receive my testimony verbally.
22:34Then they asked me if I wanted to make a formal complaint.
22:38And I said yes.
22:41On s'est dit qu'il y avait visiblement une possibilité
22:44que Grégorien Bivou-Laru soit sur le territoire français.
22:49Mais c'était très précieux parce qu'il y avait un risque
22:51que Grégorien Bivou-Laru s'échappe
22:53et par le réseau qui était en place, disparaisse
22:57et qu'on ne puisse plus mettre la main dessus.
23:20After the raids, Grégorien Bivou-Laru denied all of the charges.
23:25Ce avez de gând să faceți de acum încolo?
23:28Veți încerca să vă ascundeți?
23:30Nu, nu, nu voi încerca să mă ascund. N-am de ce.
23:33But then, a trial had begun
23:35and he was nowhere to be found.
23:38He didn't show up in court.
23:40And the next thing we found out was that Grégorien Bivou-Laru
23:44appeared somewhere in Sweden.
23:47Safturați, Grégorien Bivou-Laru, cel mai vânat român din ultima vreme,
23:50a fost prins și reținut în Suedia.
23:52Să vă mulțumesc și reținut în România.
24:07Să vă mulțumesc că România este un land corrupt,
24:11un land pe care poliși îndreptă forțe.
24:15Totul în urmă pentru a convincere autorități swedicii
24:19de a refusă extradition.
24:21Slavitură sub centură dată justiției române,
24:23Grégorien Bivou-Laru nu poate fi extradat.
24:25Asta a decis astăzi Curtea Supremă de Justiție de la Stoppul.
24:30Agistrații suedese au temut că liderul spiritual Misa
24:32va fi persecutat în România.
24:35În 2004, eu vă așa vă așa în România
24:38a vă ajuns în Suedan.
24:40În 24, eu vă așa vă ajuns în Suedan.
24:42Dar în acest 2007, eu vă așa vă ajuns în Franța
24:48și vă ajuns în Franța.
24:49S arrangeam în comunitate es.
24:59videogoleul ileg din acesteile.
25:02Seva mă după cântat susține.
25:08and then I started to date people outside of the school and met somebody and had a child so my
25:16focus shifted I was quite disappointed because there wasn't so much understanding that life
25:24with a small child requires huge amounts of dedication and energy and I felt very much left
25:34behind I was dedicating myself wholeheartedly to motherhood and a friend of mine called me and said
25:41look you know there are some things that I would like to share with you so my friend came an
25:49evening
25:49and sat on the sofa and began to give me accounts of women having really awful experiences for me
26:00I went in because I wanted to like I really really wanted it so I never felt that I had
26:06to do anything
26:07against my own will it was a hundred percent my choice but at the same time there was a huge
26:18underlying pressure for a lot of people to do things against themselves and against their will
26:25and against their boundaries because it wasn't really that safety to say actually I don't want to do this
26:40video chaturile erau a fost o afacere destul de recentă în perioada în care eu ajunsesem în nucleu
26:50nu am putut să oficial nu puteam să fac așa ceva pentru că nu avea vâstra de acum am spus
26:55este lucru
26:57cel mai normal să faci câteva apariții pe acolo pe pașaportul altor fete că era atâta timp cât erai asemănătoare
27:04puteai să faci ce vrei a fost în perioada aceea când am înțeles magnitudinea și când vezi 40 de așramuri
27:14clădiri întregi
27:15cumpărate când vezi comandamente la Costinești când vezi hotelul la Costinești și mi s-a confirmat că toată
27:22prosperitatea aceasta unei organizații non-profit vine din site-urile video chaturile
27:36I signed a contract they took a photo and they said one of the reasons why this place is so
27:46special is because the profit from the site goes to him goes to Greek
27:59In terms of our growth and our development in the school it started and ended with Greek
28:09There were very many teachers in the school who were incredibly intelligent and charismatic and all of them were just
28:20so devoted to this human being
28:25But anybody familiar with the yin and yang symbol we know that in each light there's always a speck of
28:33darkness
28:35Just like in each darkness there's always a speck of light
28:41I guess I made an assumption that the speck of darkness in him was really small
28:47But from everything Stubman uncovered maybe the speck of darkness is much bigger than what we assumed
28:59Missa and Gregorian Bivolaru have always presented Bivolaru as both a victim and a hero
29:09That he has always been oppressed, attacked, harassed, jailed, tortured, beaten
29:18By the hands of the former secret police of Romania
29:23It's called the Securitate
29:31During the communist regime we indeed lived in a closed and totalitarian society that is true
29:40But now years after we can actually look up in these files and see what really happened
30:03The first mention of the Securitate surveilling Gregorian Bivolaru dates back from 1971
30:16Back then Gregorian Bivolaru was 19 years old and he was in his last high school year
30:26They discovered that he was in contact with foreign citizens
30:34Whom he was asking for pornographic materials such as like photos, magazines
30:42So we have one of those letters
30:44I think it was 72
30:49I know a lot of things about your sexual freedom in Sweden
30:54And I want to obtain pictures
30:56Do you want to send me sexy photos and sexy slides from Sweden?
31:02Another letter
31:03I have a great sympathy for the German people
31:07And in your sexy photos I can see the emancipated comprehension of the sexuality in Germany
31:14Later on he was actually convicted to prison
31:18Because he owned and distributed pornographic materials
31:23He was not jailed because he was a yoga practitioner
31:26This is what we see from the files
31:28In the summer of 1989
31:32Raids were organized by Securitate
31:34In several cities in Romania
31:36To dismantle groups that were practicing yoga
31:43Yoga had been forbidden since 1982
31:46Bivolaru was leading such a group
31:49So he was again detained
31:50But this time the Securitate decided that his place was not in a prison
31:56But in a psychiatric medical unit
32:02He is basically portrayed as sexually obsessed
32:10So in his own words back from 1989
32:14He tells the Securitate agents
32:17That one day somewhere in 1986 or 1987
32:22I met near my house
32:24A young 12 year old brunette girl
32:28I think she was a gypsy
32:32And I asked this close friend of mine
32:35To have intimate relations with the girl
32:39And afterwards to present her to me
32:43In order for me to initiate her in sexual tantrism
32:47This shows a potential interest in very young women
32:52Since so many, many years ago
32:56And also it goes on saying that Bivolaru over the years
33:01Has asked his women friends to recruit other women for him
33:08He was subject to psychiatric exam
33:12Which says that he lacks the mental capacity
33:17To assess his own actions, his own deeds
33:21And then just a few months later
33:23The communist regime in Romania fell
33:27And soon after special commission of this psychiatric unit
33:33Decided to release Gregorian Bivolaru
33:35And soon after that
33:38In 1990
33:40The group called MISA
33:42Took birth
33:49So after Prague
33:52I travelled back to the UK
33:54And I started to realise
33:57How extremist the teachings and practices of the school were
34:03And there was this website
34:05And there was this website
34:06That was made by people who were enemies of the school
34:10We were told that it was demonic
34:13And it was better not to look at it
34:15So New Year's Eve, 21, 22
34:18At home on my own
34:20I did look at it
34:22And it was like a mirror
34:26It just confirmed what I was already feeling
34:31All of those moments of doubt
34:33Or incongruence
34:35Now made sense
34:36And this word, cult
34:38That before I hadn't been willing to accept
34:42I thought that it was a term that was used to denigrate
34:46Religion and spirituality
34:47And keep people away from it
34:50At that point
34:52On that New Year's Eve
34:53I realised for the first time
34:54That I had to leave
34:55And I had to leave completely
34:57And I had to do something about it
34:59And I had to speak out
35:01And then
35:02It became really clear
35:05Their true colours
35:06And what they were actually capable of
35:12So
35:12They claimed that everything was consensual
35:15And framed me as a liar
35:17And people who I thought were my friends
35:20Were
35:21Lying about me
35:22And saying
35:23You know, how I'd fallen from the path
35:25It made me feel sad that
35:27That whole
35:29Foundation of community
35:31Which had been such an important part of me
35:34Remaining in there for those years
35:36Was completely inauthentic
35:38Wasn't a real community
35:40Those weren't real friendships
35:41And
35:42There was no opportunity for you to truly be yourself
35:52I got a phone call from my first relationship at the time, Paula
35:59Initially she wasn't prepared to discuss any of it
36:01But she revealed everything
36:03And it was just
36:04The final confirmation that I realised, like
36:07This was the last straw
36:16The fourth and last visit was in October of 2019
36:27I wanted to move, to kind of live from the position I was
36:31And he grabbed both my wrists
36:34And put them on the bed
36:35Like, be quiet
36:36And then
36:38Eventually, a little bit more after that
36:40He didn't keep them, but he put them, you know
36:42And then took his hands off
36:44And then
36:45A few minutes afterwards
36:46I started crying
36:47So that he would
36:47Just
36:48Get off me
36:51And then he was screaming at me
36:53For like three hours
36:55Saying that I was never going to be invited there again
36:58Because I didn't deserve it
36:59Because I didn't love him
37:02Then
37:02After I left his room
37:03And I went to the room
37:04With the girls
37:05He came into the room
37:06And he continued
37:08Saying horrible things to me
37:09Like he just repeated everything
37:10He said in his room
37:11To me alone
37:12In front of the girls
37:15At that point I said
37:16I'm never again coming here
37:17Like I had it really clear
37:18Like this is just
37:19This is the opposite of
37:21What I ever thought it would be
37:24You know
37:25Like this is super traumatic
37:27Like it's not enjoyable at all
37:29Like I'm being
37:31Forced to pretend
37:32That I want to do something
37:33I don't want to
37:34And I'm being humiliated
37:36Because I don't want to
37:37You know
37:42That was the straw
37:43That broke the camel's back
37:45I just
37:45I couldn't take anymore
37:46At that point
37:47Just felt
37:48Like I got to get out of here
37:49I can't do this anymore
37:54This investigator from France
37:55Conducted me
37:56So I did agree
37:58To give my testimony
38:19Got me
38:25I was contacted by the lawyer
38:28this special unit and through the questioning techniques and the use of
38:34language of this French unit I could tell that they understood I gave them my
38:40testimony I just knew that that's what I had to do there was no other choice for
38:46me by the time they spoke to me they'd already taken statements from a few
38:52others and I really felt that okay this is ten years ago for me but there are
38:58still women going through this now I mean I knew that I was a victim of sex
39:03trafficking and rape and that was clear from like even the therapy that I had
39:07done and some of the things that I had read until that point but it was
39:10something about having the police actually say it back to me after hearing
39:14all of my very personal details for multiple days having them say yes this is
39:19what happened and it's a very serious crime under French law and we will be
39:24absolutely pursuing this as far as we can
39:26a moment avec l'autorisation des magistrats on a déclenché une opération
39:34d'envergure on avait près de 170 enquêteurs qui étaient sur le terrain
39:39juste avant l'intervention on avait encore des incertitudes qu'est-ce qu'on
39:45allait vraiment trouver derrière ces portes c'est qu'on n'avait jamais pu avoir un
39:52regard
39:56175 policiers mobilisés une quarantaine d'arrestations simultanées toutes liées
40:00Ã un groupe sectaire de yoga tantric yoga guru arrested over accusations of sexual
40:05abuse and exploitation in france il est soupçonné d'avoir abusé de dizaines de femmes
40:09just elated i don't know it's just i don't like i honestly when when ziggy called
40:14me i didn't really have it i don't i can't really find the words
40:17le gourou habitait ce petit immeuble d'ivris-sur-selle près de paris là où il a été
40:22arrêté hier it just feels like the start of the reckoning that we all wanted to see happen
40:28il va choisir sélectionner un certain nombre de femmes provenant des quatre coins de la
40:33planète pour être initié par lui il s'agit d'initiations sexuelles sous prétexte de développement
40:38personnel at first i wasn't sure if it was real it was like just a lot of shock and awe
40:45and gratitude
40:45and relief come in we're not there yet this is just the first step in what will be a pretty
41:02lengthy process but at least we know he can't be doing this any longer
41:08moment d'intervention les charges qui étaient retenues contre le mouvement étaient les suivantes
41:19l'abus de faiblesse de personnes en état de sujets sont psychologiques traite des estres humains et viol
41:32le fait que je pense qu'il est en train de faire des crimes
41:40une fois que j'ai pris mes expériences et les événements qui ont fait
41:44me out of the contexte de leur dogma et appliquées à la contexte d'autres personnes
41:51reactions my own feelings and experiences legal definitions then i understood that what had
42:00happened was trafficking and rape
42:06there's a yes in my system and and also the story's complicated
42:20but ultimately the responsibility lies with him
42:29to me was just like a bad experience something then and and then talking to my therapist she was
42:34like you know let's just put the name for the things that happened
42:40when you were kidnapped inside she started to use all of these words in therapy was it was really
42:45conflicting it was like i don't want to hear that that's why that's not what happened and she was
42:49like like she really helped me to start putting names on the things that really like to really name
42:55properly the things that happened and then when i saw the charges that we were accusing him off and
43:02then it said rape and then it was an explanation of what rape means for the french law any type
43:10of
43:11sexual interaction that you had that was done through manipulation or coercion it's also called rape
43:26we don't have to talk a lot we just have to read after your declaration to check that there are
43:32no
43:33mistakes i do worry about the fact that i ultimately resisted and i ultimately did say no and i left
43:40and i
43:40wasn't initiated i didn't endure the same horrors that others did therefore is that an indication that
43:49their consent was valid because i was able to say no so this is the beginning of the shops on
43:58the cowdy
43:59road so you can see the sign from here you see it they're not going to say that this didn't
44:07happen
44:07they're going to say that everybody consented and therefore no crime occurred
44:13c'est tout le débat c'est-à -dire qu'évidemment ce que soutiennent les mises en examen c'est
44:22que
44:22tout le monde était libre every branch that was open when i left is still open they target students
44:30particularly so it's really upsetting to think that a young impressionable person but potentially anyone
44:36could just walk into that yoga studio and have a yoga class just like i did without knowing that it's
44:45connected to bivalaru and miso and that man
44:50je vois à mon niveau comme praticien du droit et parce que c'est des dossiers que je traite souvent
44:57que
44:58toutes ces jeunes femmes étaient sous suggestions psychologiques au moment où elles ont subi les faits
45:05dont elle se plaît ce que poursuit la france c'est le fait dans un groupe et par un certain
45:13nombre de
45:13techniques de conditionnement vous privez de votre libre arbitre je pense que s'il doit y avoir un procès il
45:24se
45:24tiendra pas avant un an c'est sûr mais sans doute pas avant deux ans ou trois ans on attend
45:33on attend de
45:35façon active comme on dit en français je sais pas si votre traducteur arrivera à le traduire on
45:41attend larmes aux pieds comme les militaires prêts à agir
45:46je pense que c'est ce qui a fait que c'est ce qui a fait que c'est ce
46:07qui a fait que c'est
46:17I miss the community, I miss the teaching, I miss being so incredibly inspired.
46:24And I've also learned that we can't just keep our gaze up to the light when we're standing
46:32in a pile of shit.
46:36The time that I spent actually in there and working alongside the other community members,
46:41I still feel like there's a sense of accomplishment behind all of that.
46:48I have often wondered what my life would be like if I hadn't been in this organisation
46:53for seven years.
46:55Maybe I would have had children, I don't know, like maybe I would have been in a long-term
47:00monogamous relationship for that time.
47:02It's just really hard to know what would have happened and how life would have been.
47:10I think it's good to be curious about why we're here in this incredible planet.
47:21But life is hard, life is painful, life is confusing, a lot of really horrible things happen and we
47:31don't have the explanation for why and maybe we're not supposed to.
47:59But if you lose your fear, you have the power to take their power.
48:07I'm still trying to figure out where I sit on the spiritual spectrum.
48:13There is a sense of spirituality there but I don't know what I believe in anymore and
48:18I'm still trying to make sense of that.
48:22Since then I realised that I have this really deep connection with the spirituality if we're
48:29going to call it God or the universal source that I have such a deep experience that I
48:34don't need a guru, I don't need anybody else.
48:38I guess all of this exists within me.
48:41Yeah.
48:53Yeah.
48:55Yeah.
48:57Yeah.validate
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