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03:02Here in Brussels
03:03What are you hearing there about the reaction
03:06How are they feeling about these threats
03:09Coming from the White House
03:10Well a few people have said this is just typical
03:12Trump-NATO bashing
03:13The other point, Nana, we heard this at the Arctic last week
03:16When I spoke to the German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius
03:18They're very annoyed that Donald Trump
03:20Has removed the oil sanctions against Russia
03:22Which means that Russia now has
03:24More money to spend on the war in Ukraine
03:26And more money to attack NATO allies
03:28They're obviously not going to respond publicly
03:30In relation to this
03:30But also there's a consensus that maybe he's not talking about NATO
03:33Maybe he's just talking about European allies
03:36But other people have said to me
03:37That they're quite annoyed with Mark Rutte
03:39Because he gave fulsome
03:41Full-throated support for this war
03:43He went on Fox News on the 2nd of March
03:45Saying that all European allies were fully behind Donald Trump
03:48And perhaps Donald Trump then expected
03:51Europeans to get behind him
03:53And in fact they did the opposite
03:54They rejected it
03:55Other things that Europeans are saying to me is
03:57Look, we can't afford to get into a mission like this
04:00It's drawing down assets from the Baltics
04:02From the Arctic
04:03If we do
04:03It's very expensive
04:05What can we do?
04:06In fact, let's be realistic
04:07And at the time when Donald Trump was calling for this support from the US
04:11He wasn't sending any US Marines
04:12And now he is
04:13So the Europeans are kind of standing back
04:16Saying there's not much we can do
04:17And very, very briefly, Shauna
04:18This will come up when you leaders gather here in Brussels tomorrow
04:21That's right
04:21Big European Council meeting
04:22Tomorrow wasn't expected to be on the table
04:24But the main part of this discussion
04:25Will also be the economic impact
04:27The price of oil and so on
04:29Of this war in Europe
04:30Okay, and we will of course be following those discussions
04:32Here in Brussels tomorrow
04:34But now moving on
04:36Civilians in the Middle East
04:38Are being caught in the crossfire
04:39Of the US and Israel's war against Iran
04:42With strikes hitting homes, hospitals and schools
04:45The UN says that the shockwaves of the war
04:47Including airspace closures
04:49And disruptions to trade and energy routes
04:51Are affecting its ability to respond
04:54Euronews' Maeve McMahon sat down
04:57With United Nations Humanitarian Affairs Chief Tom Fletcher
05:00She started by asking him
05:01Whether the UN is being increasingly sidelined
05:04In a world where international law is in retreat
05:07This is a time of impunity
05:09And division and polarisation
05:12And a lot of people are attacking the UN
05:14But every time you hear someone attack the UN
05:15Ask yourself what they gain
05:17By making us weaker
05:19Because actually
05:21Impunity, brutality, polarisation, war
05:23We were built for times like this
05:25This is why we were invented
05:27And look, in the last week
05:28I've lost four colleagues on the front lines
05:31Who've given their lives
05:32To go out there and save lives
05:34Because of the mess the world is in right now
05:36So is the UN perfect?
05:38No way
05:39But, you know, I'm not going to accept
05:40The attacks that come our way
05:42Will the UN still exist in 10 years?
05:44Yeah, absolutely
05:45Because we represent the imperfections of the world
05:48It's a complicated, messy world
05:50We wish we could do more, actually
05:53To end these conflicts
05:54To send out our peacekeepers
05:56And our peacemakers
05:56We can only do that
05:57Where we get a mandate
05:58From the world
05:59From the member states
06:00And right now
06:01The member states are in this
06:03Kind of transactional
06:05Muscular
06:06Geopolitical moment
06:07Where they're pulling apart
06:08Rather than pulling together
06:10And we've got to be a force
06:11For coexistence and solidarity
06:13And just before the war began
06:15President Trump inaugurated
06:17His so-called Board of Peace
06:19Did he get Board of Peace
06:20Very soon?
06:22Well, I mean
06:22We look forward to hearing more
06:23From the Board of Peace
06:24About how they're ending
06:25A number of conflicts
06:26Apparently around the world right now
06:28I'm dealing with the consequences
06:29Of so many of those conflicts
06:30Whether it's in Sudan
06:32Or South Sudan
06:33Or the DRC
06:33Or Gaza
06:34Or I say
06:35Lebanon
06:36At this moment
06:39The White House
06:40When I talk to them
06:40Are very clear
06:41That the Board of Peace
06:42Is not an alternative
06:43To the UN
06:43And certainly
06:44The other countries
06:45That have joined it
06:46Have been absolutely
06:47Categoric
06:48That this is not meant
06:49To replace the UN
06:51We're still here
06:52So you don't feel
06:53Threatened by it?
06:53I don't feel threatened by it
06:55You know
06:55We're a member state organization
06:56Of over 190 members
06:58Of course
06:59Different groups of countries
07:00Come together
07:01To try and talk about peace
07:02Or other issues
07:03There's enough conflict
07:04In the world right now
07:05If people want to bring some peace
07:07I'm completely relaxed about that
07:09How many people
07:09Are internally displaced in Iran?
07:12Hundreds of thousands
07:13We estimate
07:13What's interesting
07:14At the moment
07:15Is that they're not
07:16Crossing the borders
07:16At the scale
07:18That we expected
07:18So you've got
07:19A lot of instability
07:20In those countries
07:21Of the region
07:22And of course
07:23The economic crisis
07:23Is driving up
07:24That movement of people
07:26But we're not seeing
07:27The large numbers
07:28Of Iranians
07:29Cross the borders
07:30At this stage
07:31And what we're understanding
07:32From the local authorities
07:33Is that local communities
07:34Are responding
07:35And taking people
07:36Into their
07:36In their homes
07:37But that's
07:37A situation
07:38We're watching
07:39Very closely
07:39And of course
07:40What about
07:40Potential spillover
07:41Of refugees
07:42Coming to Europe
07:43Potentially
07:44Even though you're
07:44Not seeing that now yet
07:46I think we will
07:47I think we will
07:48Because this
07:49This crisis
07:51Can't be put
07:52Neatly back into a box
07:53You know
07:54Wars don't just
07:54End at frontiers
07:55And actions
07:56Have consequences
07:57And we're
07:58In a period
07:59Globally right now
08:00Of reckless
08:02Adventurism
08:02In so many places
08:04And of course
08:05Civilians will be
08:06Displaced by that
08:08Civilians will also
08:09Be displaced
08:09By the next wave
08:10Over the coming years
08:12Of climate change
08:12For every degree
08:13Of climate increase
08:15Temperature increase
08:16A billion people
08:18Will be on the move
08:19From areas that
08:20We've lived in
08:20For millennia
08:21And just on that
08:23Point of people
08:23On the move
08:23We've seen thousands
08:25Internally displaced
08:25In Lebanon
08:26What is the situation
08:28Like there?
08:29Really grim
08:29And my boss
08:31The Secretary General
08:32Was in Lebanon
08:32At the end of last week
08:33And I spent all weekend
08:35On the phone
08:35To our humanitarian team
08:37There
08:37We were trying to get
08:38A convoy of support
08:38Down to the south of Lebanon
08:40Which is taking a real
08:41Smashing up at the moment
08:42And we had to turn back
08:44Because of the danger levels
08:45We lost a colleague
08:46In Lebanon
08:48Last week
08:49As well
08:50So it's getting
08:51More and more dangerous
08:52For us to operate
08:53And the needs are going up
08:54We've got tens of thousands
08:57Displaced
08:57Many of them
08:58People who were displaced
08:59Already by
09:00Previous conflicts
09:01Do you fear that
09:03Lebanon could be
09:03The next Gaza?
09:05I do fear that
09:06And in fact
09:06I fear that
09:07Because that's what
09:08We're hearing from
09:09Some Israeli ministers
09:10Right now
09:11Who are speaking
09:11In increasingly
09:13Belligerent language
09:13About what they
09:14Plan to do
09:15To Lebanon
09:16It's a country
09:16I know well
09:18I was ambassador there
09:18For four years
09:20It's an extraordinary country
09:22One really interesting development
09:24In the last couple of weeks
09:25Is that for the first time
09:27The Lebanese government
09:28Themselves
09:28Are calling for direct
09:30Negotiations
09:31With Israel
09:32Which hasn't happened
09:32In the past
09:34And so there's potential here
09:36To reset the relationship
09:38In the region
09:39But the path for that
09:40Is through dialogue
09:41And diplomacy
09:42And not through more
09:44Brutal violence
09:45And just a final reflection perhaps
09:47Do you have any hope
09:48For the Middle East
09:48I'm an optimist
09:50About humans
09:51I think we have
09:52These two competing instincts
09:53One to fight
09:53For resource
09:54And we're doing a lot
09:55Of that right now
09:55And those people
09:56Are shouting pretty loudly
09:57But another more important one
09:59Which is to work together
10:00As communities
10:01For that resource
10:02And I believe ultimately
10:03That is the most
10:04The more powerful instinct
10:05That we have
10:05And as long as I believe that
10:08Then I'll have hope
10:12The UN's humanitarian affairs
10:14Chief Tom Fletcher
10:15Speaking to Maeve McMahon there
10:16Moving on now
10:18As we heard earlier
10:18From Shona
10:19President Donald Trump's
10:21Demand for global allies
10:22To help him
10:22Unblock the Strait of Hormuz
10:24Has been met with resistance
10:26The EU has also rejected
10:28The prospect of expanding
10:29The mandate of its
10:30Naval mission
10:31Aspides to the Strait
10:33Jakob Yanis
10:34Takes a closer look
10:35At why
10:37Donald Trump
10:38Is demanding
10:39European allies
10:40Step up
10:41In the Strait of Hormuz
10:42And if they refuse
10:44He warns NATO
10:45Faces a very bad future
10:46Do you have any
10:47Minesweepers?
10:48Well
10:49Would rather not
10:50Get involved, sir
10:51I said
10:53You mean
10:53For 40 years
10:54We're protecting you
10:55And you don't want
10:56To get involved
10:56In something that
10:57Is very minor
10:59And the EU
11:00Is pushing back
11:01Let's investigate
11:03EU
11:04Foreign policy
11:05Chief Kayakala
11:05Was eyeing a shift
11:07In the bloc's naval mandates
11:08For the Aspides operation
11:10But after meeting
11:11The EU's 27 foreign ministers
11:13Her message was blunt
11:15There is simply
11:16No appetite
11:17Among member states
11:18To join the war
11:19Quick recap
11:20Aspides was originally
11:22Launched in February 2024
11:24It is a purely
11:25Defense EU naval mission
11:26In the Red Sea
11:27With a primary goal
11:29Of protecting commercial ships
11:30From Iran-aligned
11:31Houthi drone
11:32And missile attacks
11:33So the EU
11:34Aspides
11:35Is hitting the brakes
11:36But it doesn't mean
11:37Individual member states
11:38Are walking away
11:39Looking ahead
11:41French president
11:42Emmanuel Macron
11:43Wants to lead
11:44A fully defensive mission
11:45To reopen it
11:46Once the war cools down
11:47While Italy
11:49Strongly supports
11:49Expanding the defensive
11:51Aspides patrol
11:52But Trump wants more than that
11:55Demanding the bloc
11:56Secures its own energy supply
11:58But here is a thought
12:00Perhaps Europe's involvement
12:02Should be treated
12:02As a trading card
12:03Finnish foreign minister
12:05Elina Waltonen
12:07Hence Europe and Ukraine
12:08Now hold strong leverage
12:10Ukraine has four years
12:12Of expertise
12:12Intercepting the exact
12:14Iranian Shachet drones
12:15That are causing chaos
12:17In the Gulf
12:17And as the EU's naval mission
12:20Aspides
12:20Literally translates
12:22To shields
12:22In Greek
12:23Perhaps this leverage
12:25Is exactly the shield
12:26Europe needs
12:27Against Trump's games
12:33Moving on now
12:35A dispute between
12:36Hungary and Ukraine
12:38Over disruption
12:39To the flow of Russian oil
12:41Via the Drushba pipeline
12:43Continues
12:44The pipeline was damaged
12:45In Ukraine in late January
12:47In what Kyiv said
12:48Was a Russian drone attack
12:49Hungarian Prime Minister
12:51Viktor Orban
12:52Has blamed Ukraine
12:53Saying he will block
12:55The approval of a
12:5690 billion euro loan
12:57To the war-torn country
12:59Until the pipeline
13:00Is repaired
13:01And Russian crude
13:02Is flowing again
13:03EU leaders will attempt
13:05To convince Orban
13:07To drop his veto
13:08When they gather
13:08For a summit here
13:09In Brussels tomorrow
13:11Now for the latest
13:12On this very
13:13Fast-moving story
13:14I must say
13:14I'm joined by
13:15Our Ukraine correspondent
13:17Sasha Vakulina
13:18Good morning Sasha
13:19So we're now hearing
13:20The commission
13:21Here in Brussels
13:22Saying that Kyiv
13:23Has accepted
13:24Its request
13:25To send
13:26And European inspectors
13:28To examine
13:29The damage
13:29On this pipeline
13:30How soon can we
13:31Expect this to happen?
13:33I think we should
13:34Expect it as soon
13:35As possible
13:36This is clearly
13:36Something that
13:37Brussels and Ukraine
13:38Would want to see
13:39Given that the timeline
13:40Of unblocking that loan
13:42Is rather urgent
13:43For Kyiv
13:45Now according to
13:45Some euro news sources
13:47Some of the inspectors
13:48Might already be
13:49On the ground
13:49In Ukraine
13:50I have to say
13:51This is the information
13:51That the office of Zelensky
13:52Has not confirmed
13:54When asked about it
13:55But in a joint statement
13:57The president
13:58Of the European council
13:59And the president
14:01Of the European commission
14:01Said the EU
14:02Has offered Ukraine
14:03Technical support
14:04And funding
14:05This is key here
14:06The Ukrainians
14:07Have welcomed
14:08And accepted
14:09This offer
14:09European experts
14:10Are available
14:12Immediately
14:12Now Vladimir Zelensky
14:14Did not hide
14:15Previously
14:15The fact that
14:15Him personally
14:16He does not see
14:17This as a right thing
14:18He says that
14:19This is still
14:19Russian oil
14:21Which is still
14:21Financing
14:22Moscow's war
14:23Against Ukraine
14:25Now currently
14:26In its fifth year
14:27But he did say
14:28That the repair work
14:29Is currently ongoing
14:31Preliminary technical
14:32Assessment
14:32Indicates that
14:33The damaged oil tank
14:34Cannot be restored
14:35Ukraine is therefore
14:36Considering constructing
14:37Underground storage
14:39Infrastructure
14:39As a longer term
14:41And more sustainable
14:43Solution
14:43Now underground storage
14:45Would of course
14:45Then better protect
14:46Any infrastructure
14:48From any Russian attack
14:49He also said
14:51That despite repeated
14:52Massive strikes
14:53Targeting oil pipeline
14:54Infrastructure
14:55Ukraine remains
14:55Capable to offer
14:56Alternative routes
14:57For the transit
14:58Of non-Russian crude oil
15:00To the countries
15:01Of Central and Eastern Europe
15:03Now this is the option
15:04That of course
15:05Both Hungary
15:05And Slovakia
15:06Have repeatedly rejected
15:07Of course
15:08And as you say
15:09Some movements then
15:10But again
15:11There is really
15:13No way forward
15:14Clearly before tomorrow
15:15On this loan
15:16That Orban says
15:17He will still
15:18Continue to veto
15:19Until Russian crude
15:21Is flowing again
15:22And clearly
15:22That's not going to
15:23Happen anytime soon
15:23Well that's certainly
15:24Not going to happen
15:25Tomorrow
15:26As the summit
15:27Will be here
15:28And will be taking place
15:29Here in Brussels
15:30Now according
15:31To Ukraine
15:32It will still take some time
15:33And this is the tricky part
15:34Orban said
15:36The loan might be unblocked
15:38But not so fast
15:40And that's the critical point here
15:42Okay
15:43Sasha
15:43Last week
15:44The Ukrainians refused
15:45To receive our experts
15:46Even though we send them there
15:48It seems to me
15:49That they are using
15:50The entire oil blockade
15:51To intervene
15:52In the Hungarian elections
15:53In support of the TISA party
15:55That is why
15:55The situation is extremely simple
15:57If there is no oil
15:58There is no money
16:00In terms of the timeline
16:02Now Ukraine expects
16:03The repairment works
16:04To be over
16:04Somewhere by the end of April
16:07Which is of course
16:07Way past tomorrow's summit
16:09And also past
16:10Hungarian elections
16:11On the 12th of April
16:12Yes indeed
16:13Sasha
16:14We will be back
16:15I'm sure tomorrow
16:15With more on that story
16:18Thank you so much
16:18For joining us
16:19Again this morning
16:20Now
16:20The Euronews health summit
16:22Took place
16:23In Brussels yesterday
16:24Health may no longer
16:26Be at the top
16:27Of the EU political agenda
16:28But the EU's health chief
16:30Oliver Varheeli
16:31Said yesterday
16:33That healthcare systems
16:34In Europe
16:34Are facing
16:35Multiple pressing challenges
16:37And shouldn't be taken
16:38For granted
16:39Let's take a listen
16:40We must face
16:41The reality therefore
16:42That the system
16:44Is under pressure
16:45And we just cannot
16:47Take it for granted
16:48That it will stay with us
16:50Tomorrow as well
16:52Our population is aging
16:54And facing
16:56Continuously growing
16:57Burden of chronic diseases
16:59There are less and less
17:01People financing
17:02Our healthcare system
17:03While we need
17:05To provide for
17:06More and more patients
17:09Moreover
17:10Our healthcare system
17:12Is facing a competitiveness
17:14Challenge
17:14Both in the field
17:15Of innovation capacities
17:17And safe supply
17:18Of medicines
17:19And medical devices
17:21Also at the health summit
17:22Members of the European Parliament
17:24Tillie Metz
17:25Of the Greens
17:26And Stin Boss
17:27Of the Liberal
17:28Renew Europe Group
17:29Had a heated
17:31Live discussion
17:32Over who should pay
17:33For health and pharma research
17:34In Europe
17:35Should it be the patients
17:36The taxpayers
17:37Or the pharma companies
17:39Let's listen
17:40To what the MEPs
17:41Had to say
17:42There's a lot of
17:43Public funding
17:44Indeed
17:44Going in
17:45Research
17:46But there's also
17:47The patient
17:48That is paying
17:49So you could even say
17:50That the patient
17:51Right now
17:51Is paying twice
17:52He's paying first
17:53With taxes
17:55Which go then
17:56To funds
17:57And then he pays
17:58Again a price
17:59At the pharmacy
18:00So what we need
18:02For sure
18:02Is at the EU level
18:04But also at national level
18:05More public investment
18:07Yeah
18:08If we say to ourselves
18:09That there's an 80%
18:10Difference
18:11Between the countries
18:12Of the accessibility
18:13To medicines
18:14Of course
18:15That cannot be so
18:16So we have a huge
18:17Issue at our hands
18:19To level this out
18:20Between countries
18:21And to protect
18:23Our universal healthcare
18:24But that is only protected
18:26If we have earnings
18:28Earnings makes taxes
18:30Taxes makes the money
18:32To actually finance healthcare
18:34And you can catch more
18:36Of that debate
18:36On the latest episode
18:37Of The Ring
18:38Euronews' weekly debate show
18:40But that brings
18:41This edition of Europe Today
18:42To an end
18:43Thank you for tuning in
18:44We'll be back tomorrow morning
18:45We'll also have a special
18:47Live broadcast for you
18:48Tomorrow evening
18:49At 7pm Brussels time
18:51As the EU's 27 leaders
18:53Gather here for a summit
18:54With that 90 billion loan
18:56For Ukraine
18:56Hanging in the balance
18:58Make sure you don't miss it
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