00:00Questo è come horror.
00:01Sono sicuro che le persone dicono storie,
00:03questo è un aspetto di solo che non è esplorato nel programma.
00:09Perché gli umani viviamo su storie, questo è quello che facciamo.
00:11Gossip è storie, la notizia è storie di una natura diversa.
00:34Juliette, più che Nairo, è il simbolo non solo per la ribellione, ma anche per la libertà.
00:40E Marta e Carla facciano tanto che possano per durare questo simbolo,
00:45anche se pensano che è morta.
00:47Cosa importanti sono i simboli per le persone, per la massa, soprattutto oggi?
00:53Ah, grazie, credo che sono importanti, ma poi inizia a entrare in religione,
01:00che è, you know, if you sort of build a cult figure or a...
01:05I think if you recognize that that is what it is,
01:10and you know that this is an ideal, an icon,
01:14something to measure yourself up against, something to aspire to,
01:19then it has to be a good thing, because it's, you know, it's aiming for our better angels.
01:25But at the same time, if it becomes putting all that onto another person,
01:33and not really following, you know, just following blindly without realizing that it's up to you,
01:40then it can be a not helpful thing.
01:42But we do need a symbol of hope in this world.
01:46We do need somebody who has the courage to stand up to power.
01:53You know, we do see examples of it, of great courage in politics,
01:59but it's not in the political class,
02:02it's in the people who rebel against the political class.
02:05But it's very hard to find them, and we have to, we have to not just put everything on them,
02:11but try and live up to those things ourselves.
02:14Let their courage influence us to be courageous.
02:18Yeah, yeah.
02:20Books are very important in this topic show.
02:24They keep the memory alive more than oral stories, like we can expect in that society.
02:31That maybe reminds us that we have to open a book more often than a device with a screen.
02:38Yeah, definitely.
02:39I read all the time.
02:42I'm a big reader.
02:44That's true, you've always got a book.
02:45I've always got a book on the go.
02:46And I think that's one thing that is like, when I think about the silo,
02:50because they don't have books, do they?
02:52I think it's not that books are banned, it's just that they are from the before times,
02:57and so they're on, it's kind of a society that's grown up without them.
03:01And I think that's, for me, that's like horror.
03:05I mean, I'm sure that people tell stories,
03:07that's maybe an aspect of the silo that's not explored in the programme.
03:12Because human beings, we thrive on stories, that's what we do.
03:15We gossip, gossip is stories.
03:17The news is kind of stories of a different nature.
03:19But yeah, I love reading, and I love books,
03:23and I, yeah, that's the one aspect of the silo that I can't get my head around.
03:30Well, there are societies that don't allow certain books to be read,
03:34or certainly censorship in a big way in certain places.
03:40And, you know, human curiosity will break that down at some point.
03:46The truth will out, we hope.
03:47Yeah.
03:48And I suppose we go back to the oral traditions, don't we,
03:51of telling stories,
03:52because I'm sure the children in the silo are told stories at night,
03:56which are made up from, I don't know, people's imagination.
04:02What this season creates is a lot of storylines with couples of characters,
04:06like a budget series that goes for Marta and Carla too.
04:10How did you develop that relationship on the screen?
04:15Well, we really, you can only go on what's there.
04:19You know, we can discuss our past, you know,
04:22but actually what you can show is what is on the screen.
04:27And I like the fact that our relationship is sort of lightly painted in
04:34through a very big, important, you know,
04:37the major thrust of the plot is the revolution,
04:39but you have this little indication all the way along the line
04:44of this familiarity and love,
04:46and also the sort of looking at one another in a slightly different way
04:51because we haven't met for so long.
04:54I love the fact that it's quite delicately painted in,
04:58and it's just the tip of the iceberg,
04:59and we have to kind of infer what's the base of the iceberg,
05:04but that's kind of our secret, isn't it?
05:06Yeah.
05:07And also, like, sometimes you read a script,
05:09and you're like, oh, I wonder who it's going to be.
05:11And then, like, you know, you could know who it's going to be,
05:13but you never know how that's going to go
05:14until you're on set with that person.
05:16So, you know, I've done things before,
05:18and I've kind of gone, oh, no.
05:21who my lover or my husband's going to be.
05:23And you have to work that much harder,
05:25or sometimes you think it's going to be great
05:27because you know the person, and it's not great.
05:29But this just seemed to,
05:30it really seemed to just go from the beginning,
05:33and it was like, yes, it's great.
05:35It's easy.
05:35Yeah, every scene is a joy.
05:37Yeah.
05:38There are the little moments that are very important.
05:41Thank you so much.
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