00:00Come ero in fronte a Sigourney con una scuola?
00:01Sì!
00:02Sì, non avevo pensato di questo.
00:04Mi dovrebbe portare un'aliena falsa e lo mettere.
00:14Mia nipote, vorrei che diventasse la tua apprendista.
00:18Ha abbandonato la scuola ed è finita in un brutto giro.
00:22Imparerai a fare giardinaggio.
00:23Non ho aspettato tanta speranza in un film di Paul Schrader.
00:27Hai fatto un miracolo.
00:29Come è possibile?
00:31Beh, è interessante.
00:33Io ero davvero attraverso a fare il film con Paul
00:36perché ero molto impressionato con First Reformed, in particolare.
00:44Ovviamente, la sua storia di lavoro ho trovato un personale per lavorare.
00:51Per un'aliena, per un'aliena, per un'aliena, per fare un film di più.
00:59E sapere che il tema che si trova sempre e sempre e sempre,
01:04è soprattutto con il male,
01:09di mettere un pollo di un posto,
01:12un pollo di vita di violenza di un tipo di tipo,
01:15o di un tipo di turmio,
01:17e non poterlo d'escapare entrile dalla storia.
01:22A stessa, in cui, in un film o storia,
01:25dove un pollo di solito,
01:28si tratta di un pollo di più più caotico.
01:34Quindi questo ha questo, ma c'è anche il ingrediente di qualcuno potrebbe sentire una sorta di riduzione
01:47o un'evoluzione dal passato.
01:49Chi si dice che se abbiamo fatto delle cose terribili, siamo anche humani
01:55e potremmo riuscire a più di questo, ma non è completamente.
02:00Il tuo carattere dice che il giardino è quasi come credere in il futuro.
02:06Penso che Paul Schrader, anche, ha detto che possiamo avere speranza e credere in il futuro.
02:12Do you agree with him e il tuo carattere?
02:14I do.
02:15Assolutamente, I do.
02:16I do think there needs to be ownership, though, of past wrongs.
02:21They're always going to be part of who we are.
02:23I mean, I've had experiences in my life where I used to look back and think,
02:29if I could change, if I could get a time machine and go back and redirect my life, I would
02:35do it.
02:35Now I look back and say I wouldn't change a thing, because every one of my experiences makes me who
02:43I am today
02:43and I have empathy.
02:45It teaches me empathy.
02:46But, you know, I love that Paul finds these opposite ideas and then finds a way to connect them thematically
02:55and the idea also that, you know, a garden is a beautiful thing, but in order for a garden to
03:01be beautiful, there's violence in it.
03:03You need to tear up the earth and you need to destroy and cut plants in order for them to
03:09flourish.
03:09And I love that as an idea as well.
03:12Love is the answer.
03:13Love can make us improve.
03:15It's the case of your character.
03:17Do you believe it or is it just a thing that we can see in the movies?
03:23I do believe in love.
03:25You know, I totally believe in love and I experience love and I have children and I feel like that's
03:31a different kind of love, obviously.
03:35But, you know, I particularly in this film, you know, one had a very key moment with Paul in the
03:41beginning when I read the script
03:43and I said, you know, Maya as a character is very young compared to me.
03:49And, you know, on one hand there's something loving about that relationship, but I also enjoy the fact that the
03:56audience can find that controversial.
03:58Not just because of cultural things, of race, but age as a thing that we have a history with in
04:07cinema,
04:08that in the past mainly a lot of older men would have young lovers and everybody just saw that as
04:14a normal thing.
04:16I said to Paul, you don't want this to be titillating, like exciting for an audience in a gratuitous way.
04:26You want it to feel a little confronting.
04:30And if it's confronting, I find that more interesting.
04:33Similar with my relationship, my automatic, almost mechanical sexual relationship with Sigourney's character.
04:41that, you know, I think Paul's really interested in making people be like, hold on a second, like, they're a
04:48bit like this.
04:49And he's a bit like, you know, the age thing is really interesting.
04:52Speaking about her, about Sigourney, I was facing her with a gun.
04:57How was facing Sigourney with a gun?
04:59Yeah.
05:00Yeah, I hadn't thought about that.
05:02I should have brought a fake, like, alien hat and put it on.
05:08I've worked with Sigourney before.
05:10She's amazing.
05:12And it's interesting going to work with somebody that you feel like you knew well before you got to meet
05:21them.
05:22You know, I grew up watching cinema with Sigourney in it.
05:25And then I get to work with her.
05:27So that was exciting.
05:29But she's, she's excellent.
05:31And really cool to see her play a character that is like, like, complicated in a, you know, she's quite
05:39benign.
05:40But then she's quite, under the surface, quite racist, you know.
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